JackFavell

> {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote}Here you go, this is what I wrote (not much): > *The Last Frontier* (Anthony Mann, 1955) > A frontiersman (Victor Mature) scouts for a glory-riding Fort Lieutenant (Robert Preston) who's taken over the command of the more rational and peace-seeking Captain (Guy Madison). James Whitmore plays Mature's father, or man who raised him. Mann again looks at the wildness and violence inside even the most civilized men. Though Mature is a mountain man, "a bear" as he calls himself, and has no qualms about taking anything he needs, including another man's life or wife, he's still not as "savage" as Preston who will sacrifice his entire company of men to experience "victory". It's an exciting tale and if not in the league of the Stewart or Cooper westerns, definitely deserving of attention for its emotions and the unmistakable Anthony Mann fingerprints. Oh I saw part of that one! It was much better than I thought it would be from the description, and I had no idea it was an Anthony Mann western. Unfortunately they showed it in the late afternoon one day, and we were on our way somewhere so I never saw the end. fred - I have had that set bookmarked forever but never really wanted to spend the money - thanks for the heads up! Edited by: JackFavell on Feb 7, 2012 3:32 PM

That's a great photo, Jeff! The first real star, some say. I find Francis X. Bushman to be a really credible actor, on top of his super stardom. He's quite good.

It sounds good, I'll have to see if I can find them both - I am in a western mood again lately. I saw the end of *The Professionals* the other night, and got it recorded, but I am battling more and more with the hubby and kidling for TV time, so I missed the beginning. If the beginning is as good as the end, I'll be happy.

I hope you are feeling better again soon, movieman! Please take good care of yourself.

I believe in the book she's a brunette, but I'll have to look it up.

I enjoyed *My Cousin Rachel* very much. It's brooding and intense. I agree that perhaps a more stylish or suspenseful director could have really made it a wow movie, if you know what I mean. As it is, it's the kind of movie that feels like a discovery, because it gets absolutely no attention in movie discussions. I thought Olivia de Haviland was quite good, she carries just the right balance of bland hauteur and sensitivity to keep you guessing. Burton is excellent as the boyish fellow who cannot control his love, jealousy and suspicion of her. Its a pleasure to watch him when he still cared about acting.

That Esther Ralston is a beauty! She is more delicate than Kim Novak, Novak is more statuesque. Kim was right to speak up. She didn't do it for herself, she spoke up for the original composers, and for future composers who should be able to know that their work is safe from plagiarism.

Francis is in it? alrighty! Do you think this one had a good enough story to have warranted a more well known director?

Oh I'd love to see that one! Alice Duer Miller screenplay!

I seem to remember reading that most of his films are completely lost, especially from his heyday as a movie star.

I just remembered, Richard Barthelmess also played an indian, so I guess his playing a spaniard doesn't surprise me.

I think it's an illusion - the combination of weird hairstyle, tight clothing and the angle of the photo all help to give the impression that he is plump. I'm glad to hear it isn't your work Jeff, I really don't like the colors used, especially the skin tones are very pink.

I believe Mary played Spanish more than once. I don't find it any more odd with Barthelmess than with Warner Baxter, lol.

I actually love the Adolphe Menjou photo Jeff... how naughty! I also love the Vilma-Ronald photo.

That's my favorite picture of Dorothy Sebastian, Jeff! Glad to hear you are much better. I love the Billie photo in the blue dress coat.

WRJ - did you mean you have photos of Wallace Reid? I'd love to see them.

> {quote:title=JakeHolman wrote:}{quote} > Glad you liked it Wendy, That's a time frame when Dolly was just starting out. She's gone a long way. > > Can't say I like everything she does but most of it. Same here, Jake. *> Incredible String Band* > > I loved this! I went and looked them up on Wiki and then listened to a lot of their music. Thanks for posting.

I love J. Farrell MacDonald, I first noticed him in Three Bad Men, but after that discovered that I'd already seen him in hundreds of films. In A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, he thinks Peggy Ann Garner is sweet, so he gives her the extra penny for the junk she and her brother have collected. He's always turning up, like in yesterday's Reap the Wild Wind, or several Preston Sturges comedies, or Topper, in which he plays another policeman. One of my favorites of his is Riffraff... watching him out-act Spencer Tracy makes me laugh.

I'm sorry if these have already been posted, I haven't been getting this thread in my watch files for such a long time. I'm sure it has already been seen by most of you but I got such a kick out of it. Classy, witty affectionate blooper reel from one of the best shows of all time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sZswWuZcc&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SP6BC9CBF1B2B7B26C

Wowsa! Sorry I missed this when you posted it.

I've only had real ouzo once and it was like floating on a warm cloud. My teeth did not mush.... I guess I didn't have enough!

When I am marinated in hard cider, I get tender too.

I forgot the little trick to get into the archived threads.... I tried to go to page fifty and there wasn't any.

That's true... I do see the men as each injured in some way, stunted and lost. But then aren't we all? My reaction to the movie is to feel at turns exactly like each of the characters somewhat. There is that much truth in each characterization. I think Gay is the most self actualized, to use a terribly modern term for being the closest to a whole man. He can reach his goals, except he has to decide what his goals are first. At the beginning, he simply can't help himself, he goes after Roslyn, and he will win her - that's his goal and he doesn't even know it. He is the alpha male, poor **** never has a chance against him. I think that scenario happened before with the two of them. Maybe over and over. Later on, we realize Gay's long term goals are a boy's. He has to take a good look at what he thought his goals were, and where they are leading him. It seems to me that they lead to death, any way you look at it. If he keeps his job, he is only a middleman, which is abhorrrent to him. If he continues catting around, he has no real offspring, we see that when he goes to make up with his kids and they'll have nothing to do with him. So he is unable to keep life flowing. I think maybe this is what the movie is actually about. He's still living in the past, like many of us. His delusions of what he is now and was before are bringing him down, slowly. He thinks he's free out there, doing what he loves, free of the "wages", but as he says, they changed his job from honorable to dishonorable. Now he is as much trapped by the system as he would have been had he been in any other job. Perhaps he's deluded himself all along into thinking that his freedom was honest.... maybe it never was... but I like to think it was once. Anyway, he is the only one willing to take steps to amend his life, the only one strong enough look at his place in the world, to say goodbye to it all because of love and because deep down he knows it's wrong, and to change direction. In this way, he gets his honor back adn his life, at least for a little while longer. It's a strong rider who can change horses in midstream. Edited by: JackFavell on Jan 30, 2012 4:24 PM

You've got a great handle on the film. How she turns the men into most what they are. As they interact with her, the true man comes out. With ****, we see something sick and disturbing come out. With Gay, it's just the opposite. His strength has to go somewhere... he can't put it into his work any more.