JackFavell
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When I am marinated in hard cider, I get tender too.
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I forgot the little trick to get into the archived threads.... I tried to go to page fifty and there wasn't any.
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That's true... I do see the men as each injured in some way, stunted and lost. But then aren't we all? My reaction to the movie is to feel at turns exactly like each of the characters somewhat. There is that much truth in each characterization.
I think Gay is the most self actualized, to use a terribly modern term for being the closest to a whole man. He can reach his goals, except he has to decide what his goals are first. At the beginning, he simply can't help himself, he goes after Roslyn, and he will win her - that's his goal and he doesn't even know it. He is the alpha male, poor **** never has a chance against him. I think that scenario happened before with the two of them. Maybe over and over.
Later on, we realize Gay's long term goals are a boy's. He has to take a good look at what he thought his goals were, and where they are leading him. It seems to me that they lead to death, any way you look at it.
If he keeps his job, he is only a middleman, which is abhorrrent to him. If he continues catting around, he has no real offspring, we see that when he goes to make up with his kids and they'll have nothing to do with him. So he is unable to keep life flowing. I think maybe this is what the movie is actually about.
He's still living in the past, like many of us. His delusions of what he is now and was before are bringing him down, slowly. He thinks he's free out there, doing what he loves, free of the "wages", but as he says, they changed his job from honorable to dishonorable. Now he is as much trapped by the system as he would have been had he been in any other job. Perhaps he's deluded himself all along into thinking that his freedom was honest.... maybe it never was... but I like to think it was once.
Anyway, he is the only one willing to take steps to amend his life, the only one strong enough look at his place in the world, to say goodbye to it all because of love and because deep down he knows it's wrong, and to change direction. In this way, he gets his honor back adn his life, at least for a little while longer. It's a strong rider who can change horses in midstream.
Edited by: JackFavell on Jan 30, 2012 4:24 PM
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You've got a great handle on the film. How she turns the men into most what they are. As they interact with her, the true man comes out. With ****, we see something sick and disturbing come out. With Gay, it's just the opposite. His strength has to go somewhere... he can't put it into his work any more.
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I agree, she is a little girl inside, that's very astute of you. She opens up to everyone, and doesn't really realize the chaos she leaves in her wake. Look at how Eli Wallach and Gable end up after she enters the picture.
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There is something ethereal about her. Her soul is bared til it aches in that film. I felt her, felt for her, but I also ache for Gable's character. I think Marilyn was a natural, and yes I do think that reaching into yourself for a role IS acting, just as much as putting on an exterior act is also acting. They are two different ways to achieve the same thing. I think revealing one's self is probably the harder, at least for me it is, and is the more appropriate style for film.
I've always thought that scene with the paddle ball shows how innocent she really is. Like Gay says to her when he puts her to bed on top of the truck outside, "You started out liking to dance, but people turned it into something else, something wrong." Just like his job was turned from an exciting adventure into a sordid quest for wages, at the expense of a wild living thing.... and for what? For dog food. His identification was always with the wild horse, not with the companies that took those horses for what they could get out of them. So it's especially bitter for him to see himself suddenly on the other side. I think this is why, in the end, he chooses Roslyn's way, and let's it go. She can see him the way he wants to be seen, all the way through to the heart... if he stops at that point and never looks back. He's wrangling himself in that scene, the wild free man that he is...... And Gay, he sees her innocence. That's why I don't feel bad at the end of the movie...not that it's an easy watch... Still, to me, it is the happiest of endings, even if it is transient and frail. How will they live in the world? I don't know. But they chose life, and each other even if briefly. It was the right choice.
I guess I must identify with Roslyn/Marilyn, because she is not an enigma to me at all. Her life is, but she herself isn't. I think she's very close to my own personality, though I have hardened up over the years, learned to hide myself, whereas RoslynMarilyn just didn't have it in her, she let it all eat away at her, the people taking advantage, the horror of the world we live in. It's a shame she didn't live longer, because every time I watch The Misfits, I think what a great career she had ahead of her. She's perfect in it.
Edited by: JackFavell on Jan 30, 2012 11:00 AM
Edited by: JackFavell on Jan 30, 2012 11:01 AM
Edited by: JackFavell on Jan 30, 2012 11:09 AM
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That's a great idea, CB! Next time I will try key limes. Of course, that will be Easter morning, since it's my husband's family tradition to have Eggs Benedict on Easter. Then we don't have it again for a year, in order to give our hearts time to recuperate fully from the shock.
Best hash browns I've had were in some little diner in Davenport Iowa this summer. We visited the midwest for a week or so and all I ate were hash browns and beef. I even had hash browns on a hamburger. Tasty midwestern beef. YUM! There's such a difference in the quality - we truly deny ourselves here in New England. Everything tastes like cardboard in comparison, though we have great seafood.
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MMMmmm. Hash browns. We don't get them out here in the east - everyone serves what they call home fries, or cubes of potatoes cooked kind of soft, with onions and peppers or paprika, I think.
I miss hash browns.
I would turn around and go right back to sleep if I ate John Wayne's breakfast and I wouldn't be able to get off the couch for a week! Good lord, that's a MAN'S breakfast for sure.
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Whoa! Was William Gill an actor? Holy smokes, he should have been, with looks like that.
That is by far the prettiest I've ever seen Claire Windsor.
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I've never heard of Bill Phillips. He and Dolly blend so well. I really love early Dolly Parton. This is my favorite, it makes me think of my mom.
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Maven,
Had you seen The Misfits before?
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I think Ben actually had a recipe he liked to make printed up in a magazine article - as I recall it was biscuits.
I'm thinking an apple pie, or some creamy clam chowder (it's easy) or something down home with a lot of butter might go over well. You can never go wrong with bacon. Good luck in the competition!
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I'm so disappointed I missed this one, movieman! I meant to record it but it got by me. Luckily, it's on Netflix.
Oh, and I am about to send back *The Big Trail* and get *Yellow Sky.* Sorry it's taken me so long.
Back to *Gun Fury.*
Rock and Raoul (hee hee) worked together a lot, Walsh saw something in Hudson that he thought would make a great star, and he coached him through role after role. I think he had a great eye for talent, since he had also taken John Wayne under his wing in 1930. Sometimes this backfired when he tried to thrust actors or actresses he liked into roles that they weren't really suited for, like Virginia Mayo playing a Lady of the British realm.
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Brilliant!
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Raoul Walsh was known to let his actors really fly with the spicy dialogue, most notably in the movie *What Price Glory.* It was actually a big draw for audiences of the day and some of the language is very pointedly clear and easily understood.
*Sadie Thompson* is another of Walsh's no holds barred movies as far as language is concerned.
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Lifeboat is just great, Ro! I think you'll really like it.
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I don't know which is more sensational, your Pola Negri still, or that Bebe Daniels cover art.
I love the Sally Irene and Mary still, it's a movie I'd love to see someday.
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>Oh, ha!! Ro, you have nothing to be ashamed of...you write clearly and I always get a good picture of how you see a movie. Your style is one of the most genuine and conversational on the board, so it's like having a real chat rather than reading an essay.
I completely agree with MissG! You are a very clear writer, and great fun to read. It's a gift to be able to write conversationally like that.
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>Oh, ha!! Ro, you have nothing to be ashamed of...you write clearly and I always get a good picture of how you see a movie. Your style is one of the most genuine and conversational on the board, so it's like having a real chat rather than reading an essay.
I completely agree with MissG! You are a very clear writer, and very enjoyable to read.
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I still get a thrill when I hear the way Etta sings this one, no matter how many times I hear it.
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Joey is a snake and a half in this one. I like how he puts the cigar back on Brian Donlevy's desk. He's good at seething. Poor dear, he doesn't last long. If he managed not to get killed, the blood pressure would get him for sure.
We got a bunch of snow here too. In fact, it's still coming down. My daughter is happy as a clam, whatever that means.
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Oh he's hilarious!
I love Romance on the High Seas, it's one of my favorite Doris movies, maybe even my favorite. Doris is so young, and she hasn't been molded into her image yet. She's quite sexy I think in this film and I love it when she sits down to sing with the boys in the band. And Jack actually gets the girl! I like the way he's so confused about his feelings, then decides to call Don DeFore and tells him to get down there right away, because something might happen between him and Doris!
For me, the best thing about it is the color scheme. It's as if the designers said, "What colors would Doris look best in?" and then they made every inch of the set those colors...the aquas, ocean blues and lavenders - just gorgeous! If I ever take a cruise, I'm sure I would be disappointed, I would expect it to look like that!
Just remember, don't 'dress' the first night out......
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I totally agree! This is why we have I Love Lucy on almost every morning now.
It's a Great Feeling is so much fun because you also get the cameo appearances thrown in. I can't think of a cast in any other movie of this type that is as good as the cameos - Jack and Doris are so great, it's a treat to watch them, and in some ways they are better than the "bigger" stars they are rushing to meet.
Edited by: JackFavell on Jan 20, 2012 4:09 PM
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I've only had real ouzo once and it was like floating on a warm cloud. My teeth did not mush.... I guess I didn't have enough!