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found this review Come Gather 'Round All Ye Pioneer PL-518 Owners! May 09 '05 (Updated May 02 '07) The Bottom Line Even with the spellbinding world of digitally recorded music...be aware that as a PL-518 owner you have the power to prove just how superior Analog can be! I have owned many turntables over the years but have never owned the likes of a solid direct drive unit that could equal the playback accuracy of my somewhat recent Classic find...The Pioneer PL-518 Direct Drive Turntable! I purchased the unit for the grand sum of $4.25 from this very nice gal who apparently thought the unit was primed for the trash due to its rotting feet and uncontrollable "pitch" problem. When someone accidentally clipped her Shure M92E/Pro4 cartridge that was mounted in the unit...I surmise that the incident quickly became the final straw! I recently was tempted to sell the unit in order to obtain some very much needed cold hard cash only to discover that it just was not worth risking the loss of the level of detailed open sound reproduction that I have tweaked this turntable to...and yes...you can do the same! Thank God for the power of good judgment! Upkeep of this great classic analog masterpiece can be kept quite simple...if you know how. Since the unit is direct drive...there are no belts and pulleys to worry about. The only problem you are really likely to encounter is with the Pitch Control which can become dirty or oxidized over a period of time. If this is the case...simply apply a good dose of Isopropyl Alcohol into the control and work it continuously back and forth. Then let it sit overnight. Applying a drop or two of oil on the bottom of the center spindle beneath the platter {which can be removed quite easily} will also ensure a lifetime of listening pleasure only few can enjoy!

I got one of these from my brother as he found it in the garbage. it is from 1978. this was an advance in turntables as it is direct drive & I believe was intended for use at radio stations. You are supposed to cut a hole in a table & it drops in. this pioneer pl 518 weighs 30 pounds. so along with the dual 1218s & the 1224, this is my 4th & final record player. I'm happy to have it & use it quite a bit. this is a heavy machine built to last. I think the reason it was thrown away is because after 30 years the direct drive mechanism needs to be oiled. if it dries up the speed will slow down. maybe the person didn't know this. when in use this glass thing lights up even tho the Dual 1218 is the most functional phonograph, the pioneer pl 518 is a better one to use at radio stations as they play one record at a time. for that purpose the 518 is more accurate & efficient. those of you reading this may want to consider buying one & this info might be of help.

i noticed the "cat & the canary" tcm showed is entirely alternate takes. I would like to obtain a tape of the original 1925 phantom. never seen it. If anybody would like to help me - m123link@juno.com please thx

griffith mentioned bolshevism in this movie as bad. the irony is eisenstein & pudovkin used griffith imagery in their great movies. we could use some bolshevism here now with our horribly crooked & twisted govt. or should we wait until they set up concentration camps...?

had more of these than I thought. capitol 256 - king cole trio - route 66/everybody is sayin' hello again capitol 274 - king cole trio - you call it madness/oh, but i do columbia 36842 - frank sinatra & xavier cugat - stars in your eyes/my shawl capitol 1105 - peggy lee - show me the way to get out of this world/happy music capitol 1216 - yogi yorgesson - my little old shack/someone spiked the punch at lena's wedding decca 23655 - bing crosby w/jimmy dorsey - sweet lorraine/things we did last summer decca 27720 - louis armstrong - a kiss to build a dream on/i get ideas decca 28306 - louis armstrong - once in a while/confessin' decca 24752 - louis armstrong - blueberry hill/that lucky old sun decca 27899 - louis armstrong - its all in the game/when its sleepy time down south rca 1891 - louis armstrong - whatta ya gonna do/no variety blues 4 star - slim galliard trio - buck dance rhythm/carne capitol b437 - king cole trio - naughty angeline/that's what capitol 20009 - king cole trio - embraceable you/sweet lorraine capitol 239 - king cole trio - sweet georgia brown/it is better to be by yourself capitol 208 - king cole trio - i tho't you ought to know/i'm a shy guy capitol 1010 - nat king cole - mona lisa/the greatest inventor capitol 416 - benny goodman - i want to be loved/manzel mgm 10082 - art lund - jealous/-and mimi good time jazz 78 - bob scobey's frisco band - ace in the hole/silver dollar good time jazz 60 - bob scobey's frisco band - melancholy/south columbia 20003 - roy acuff - pins and needles/we live in two different worlds columbia 40402 - four lads - dance calinda/two ladies in de shade of de banana tree rca 5502 - eartha kitt - santa baby/under the bridges of paris rca 2433 - vaughn monroe - ballerina/the stars will remember capitol 803 - robert clary - do it again/c'est si bon capitol 972 - robert clary - louise/put on an old pair of shoes capitol 702 - robert clary - cecilia/give me a little kiss will ya huh? capitol 15105 - pee wee hunt - twelfth street rag/somebody else not me

here are some more 78s columbia 37218 - harry james - the man with the horn/jalousie capitol 2505 - frank sinatra - I've got the world on a string/my one and only love columbia 37539 - frankie carle - sunrise serenade/gene krupa - star burst capitol 285 - paul weston w/matt dennis - just squeeze me (but don't tease me)/ ole buttermilk sky mgm 10037 - art lund - on the old spanish trail/peg o' my heart capitol 388 - jo stafford - ivy/a sunday kind of love capitol 20049 - jo stafford - walkin' my baby back home/over the rainbow columbia 37567 - frankie carle - penguin at the waldorf/the glow-worm capitol 288 - hal derwin - i guess i'll get the papers and go home/the old lamplighter capitol 306 - the pied pipers - either it's love or it isn't/walkin' away with my heart capitol 344 - the pied pipers - you can't see the sun when you're crying/make me know it capitol b448 - johnny mercer and the pied pipers - why should i cry over you?/sugar blues columbia 37271 - claude thornhill - autumn nocturne/snowfall decca 23541 - delta rythym boys and charlie barnet- just a-sittin' and a-rockin'/no pad to be had coral 61249 - jackie miles - honeysuckle rose/i'm a rollin' columbia 36526 - kay kyser - how do i know it's real/who wouldn't love you columbia 35400 - eddy duchin - carinhoso/brazil capitol 10055 - ruby hill - any place i hang my hat is home/ruby hill and harold nicholas - come rain or come shine decca 24995 - jerry gray - what is this thing called love?/night and day rca 1756 - charlie barnet - cherokee/redskin rhumba columbia 35076 - eddy duchin - the man i love/someone to watch over me majestic 7180 - the three suns - it couldn't be true!/everybody loves my baby capitol 335 - billy butterfield - jalousie/steamroller capitol 363 - alvino rey - why don't we say we're sorry/that's how much i love you capitol 348 - jesse price - i ain't mad at you/i'm the drummer man capitol 205 - coleman hawkins - it's the talk of the town/stuffy rca 2103 - perry como - i gotta gal i love/what am i gonna do about you rca 2307 - the three suns - cecilia/the goofy gal of tegucigalpa capitol 283 - capitol international jazzmen - stormy weather/you can depend on me vitacoustic 98 - leo diamond - and they call it dixieland/my sin musicraft 312t - artie shaw - for you, for me, forevermore/changing my tune capitol 236 - peggy lee - i don't know enough about you/i can see it your way capitol 270 - skitch henderson - dreamland rendezvous/why does it get so late so early? musicraft 443t - maurice rocco - at sundown/my tzatkela rca 2361 - vaughn monroe - kokomo, indiana/you do capitol 40063 - nellie lutcher - the song is ended/do you or don't you love me? columbia 37921 - arthur godfrey - too fat polka/for me and my gal capitol 229 - stan kenton - artistry jumps/just a-sittin' and a-rockin' decca 23530 - bing crosby - who's sorry now?/i've found a new baby universal 851 - jerry murad's harmonicats - my gal sal/i love you rca 2123 - tex beneke & miller orch - speaking of angels/it might have been a different story rca 2234 - tex beneke & miller orch - through/sunrise serenade rca 2017 - tex beneke & miller orch - uncle remus said/anybody's love song rca 2411 - glenn miller - missouri waltz/pavanne capitol 248 - alvino rey - cement mixer/we'll gather lilacs capitol 384 - merle travis - three times seven/steel guitar rag rca 1529 - glenn miller - rhapsody in blue/along the santa fe trail decca 18811 - the merry macs - laughing on the outside/ashby de la zooch rca 1557 - benny goodman - these foolish things remind me of you/once in a while columbia 35254 - benny goodman sextet - rose room/flying home columbia 37091 - benny goodman - my blue heaven/put that kiss back where you found it

if the queen had balls she'd be king

The Albums There are 16 albums here but an entire album of Frankie Laine was broken. this frankie laine album had 3 records which i threw away. Some have the price tag still stuck on. I will try & tell you what the cover says & the contents. rca victor - musical smart set - tommy dorsey - all time hits with frank sinatra, jo stafford and the pied pipers $3.31 rca 2007 - embraceable you/after you've gone rca 2005 - on the sunny side of the street/boogie woogie (2 records missing) columbia records c-23 frankie carle at the piano... 35571 - estelle/stumbling 35573 - prelude in c sharp minor/barcarolle 35570 - hindustan/1. a lover's lullaby 2. sunrise serenade 35572 - twelfth street rag/sweet lorraine columbia records set c-129 carle comes calling 37315 - stardust/canadian capers 37316 - i'll get by (as long as I have you)/deep purple 37317 - penthouse serenade/I want a girl (just like the girl that married dear old dad) 37318 - chopin's polonaise in boogie/if you were the only girl rca victor - a musical smart set - glenn miller - an album of outstanding arrangements $3.35 rca 2412 - perfidia/my isle of golden dreams rca 1567 - stardust/pennsylvania six five thousand rca 1560 - that old black magic/I got it bad & that ain't good rca 1564 - american patrol/song of the volga boatmen decca records album no. a-575 al jolson souvenir album 24106 - waiting for the robert e. lee/when you were sweet sixteen 24108 - toot, toot, tootsie!/back in your own back yard 24107 - I'm sitting on top of the world/golden gate (one record missing) capitol presents the king cole trio 20010 - the man I love/body and soul 154 - straighten up & fly right/I can't see for lookin' 20012 - easy listenin' blues/It's only a paper moon 20011 - what is this thing called love?/prelude in c sharp minor decca records album no. a - 477 ink spots $3.94 23634 - maybe/we three (my echo my shadow & me) 23633 - do I worry?/java jive (2 records missing) are: 23632 - if I didn't care/whispering grass 23635 - I'll never smile again/until the real thing comes along coast records - selected melodies by america's greatest composer - isham jones 8024 - the wooden soldier & the china doll/I'll see you in my dreams 8025 - the one I love (belongs to somebody else)/I'll never have to dream again (just two records)

about the 78s I listen to 6 each morning & turn them over. Back then in 1949 they switched from 78s to 45s but people who were into it stayed with 78s as that was their thing. information from those days is not easy to get such as charts & stuff. I am going to list some of the records I listened to so far & if you want to play along, maybe you can find some on the web or in old record stores. it will give you an idea of what was popular. each day I'll add a few more. capitol 255 - skitch henderson - cynthia's in love/swan lake capitol 362 - paul weston w/matt dennis - roses in the rain/linda decca 24980 - jerry gray - blue skies/this can't be love rca 1500 - bunny berrigan - i can't get started/frankie and johnnie rca 1565 - glenn miller - tuxedo junction/in the mood rca 1566 - glenn miller - little brown jug/moonlight serenade majestic 1010 -pat flowers - ain't misbehavin/original blues rca 1895 - spike jones - that old black magic/liebestraum decca 23847 - carmen cavallaro - carioca/brazil decca 23852 - carmen cavallaro - it's dreamtime/midnight masquerade decca 25017 - ted weems - heartaches/oh! monah bullet 1001 - francis craig - red rose/near you columbia 35923 - xavier cugat - orchids in the moonlight/temptation capitol 2839 - les paul and mary ford - auctioneer (I'll buy that dream)/I'm a fool to care capitol 2400 - les paul and mary ford - i'm sitting on top of the world/sleep capitol 1592 - les paul and mary ford - i wish i had never seen sunshine/josephine capitol 2614 - les paul and mary ford - don'cha hear them bells/the kangaroo capitol 2928 - les paul and mary ford - whither thou goest/mandolino

maybe the big media corporations were in too much of a hurry to replace records. here is a neat item never seen it work but the price is a bit steep $10,000

Dual 1224 after the 70's Dual came out with this & as you can see there is only two speeds & the record size is locked in. It has a plastic base (made to look like wood) where the 1218 base was real wood. I found one of these at a flea market around 1990 & I bought it for $10. It had been used/abused as a dj machine & you know they spin them by hand backwards etc. the eject mechanism was disabled so I tried to repair it for$150 but it did not last. It still works great & is a fine player. I use it as a 33 player next to my brother's Dual 1218 which as I said has a 33 speed defect. I also bought a1978 Fisher amp for 40$ which I use for the 1218 & 1224 as the amp has two phono jacks.

I am struggling to get this board to post what I write so bear with me. One thing I want to emphasize is how when Dual mastered the phonograph they did it in a way that kept contact with the past. the Dual 1218 made listening to 78s easier. This is very important when you consider how everything is made obsolete now. Our industry has no integrity. How I got the 78s. I was not looking for them or interested in 78s at all. a woman who I knew placed an ad on a local page saying she had these & was giving them away. She left the boxes in front of here garage where they had been stored for years. When I got them home I could tell they were very valuable. This couple collected these in the late 40's/early 50s & played them while their children were growing. You could easily start crying on some of them. There are complete albums with a cover picture or art & inside on brown paper 5 78's (10 songs) Frankie Laine, Al Jolson etc. These were the first albums for music. other than the cover there is nothing else. no art writing nothing. This woman probably would start crying remembering her parents if she played them. Peggy Lee, Les Paul & Mary Ford, Xavier Cugat, Sinatra. You can learn alot about music as the songwriters are listed on each record. 78s are not plastic. They are made out of shellac & very brittle. When I opened the boxes some were broken. I threw them away. 1.78s: (c. 1900 - 1960) The first disc format was the 10-inch 78 rpm record, pictured above in the center, invented around 1900. The first record player was invented around 1870 by Thomas Edison, but this used cylindrical records about the size of an empty toilet paper tube. The flat 78s were much easier to store. The grooves on these records were much larger than later LPs and 45s (about 4 times as big) and the needles were larger too. 78s were recorded and played back "acoustically", without any electric amplifiers or microphones, until about 1925. 78s were obsolete by about 1960. Since the grooves are so spaced out and the records spin so fast, a standard 10-inch 78 can't hold more than about 3 minutes of music per side. They are typically made of a shellac compound (as in furniture finish!), and have the consistency of a china plate, so they are very thick and heavy and break easily. 33s / "LPs": (c. 1948 - 1990) The 33, a.k.a. the "LP" (Long Playing record) or "album", pictured above at left, was invented in 1948. These LPs were popular until around 1990 when CDs were popular enough to take over. An LP could hold up to a total of 60 minutes of music, but most didn't have more than 40 minutes. They are made of vinyl plastic rather than shellac, so they are more flexible and don't tend to break like 78s. The grooves are 4 times smaller, so they were originally called "Microgrooves" (MG), and early LPs have this written on the label. Interestingly enough, there are enough people still willing to buy "classic" albums, particularly jazz and blues, that some of the labels in those styles, like Blue Note records, Original Jazz Classics (a.k.a. Prestige, Riverside, Contemporary, New Jazz, etc) and Delmark Records are once again pressing and selling LPs for about $9 - 13 through mail order. LPs of some newer releases are available, in very limited quantities. 45s: (c. 1949 - 1990) The 45, pictured above at right, was the alternative to the LP when you wanted to record a single pop song rather than a full album. The 45 had the same smaller-sized groove as the LP, and the center hole was larger. 45s became popular in jukeboxes, which had previously used 78s, because 45s took up less space and you could fit more songs in the box. Suddenly jukes went from offering 24 or 40 songs on 78s to having 100 to 200 songs on 45s. 45s are also made of vinyl rather than shellac, and can hold up to about 5 minutes of music on each side. 45s are still being made in limited quantities for jukebox operators who have not upgraded to newer CD jukeboxes, so you can still get some of the latest releases on 45. Does anyone know why 78 revolutions per minute was chosen as the standard rotation speed of old-fashioned gramophone records, rather than a round number such as 75 or 80 rpm? And are there convincing explanations for the choice of speeds for later EPs and LPs of 33 1/3 rpm and 45 rpm? It was Emil Berliner, the inventor of the gramophone, who determined roughly how fast old disc records should spin. He avoided Edison's need for a stylus made from precious jewels by using points which could be made from steel sewing needles and pins. The size of the stylus effectively determined the size of the grooves in a record and the recordable frequency range limited by this groove size determined a speed between 70 and 90 rpm. Standardization did not begin until 1912, when the British Gramophone Company conducted listening tests on their back catalogue. They settled on the average (or possibly the median) of these tests, which turned out to be 78 rpm. Other companies adopted this, but the process was not complete until the early 1930s. Even after this date ?rogue rpm? records still appeared. After standardization problems still occurred. Because of electrical mains frequencies differences on opposite sides of the Atlantic, stroboscopic speed testers and synchronous motors meant a nominal speed of 77.922 rpm in countries that used 50 hertz and 78.261 in countries that used 60 hertz. These were later fixed in national (but not international) standards. Records of 33 1/3 rpm were developed in conjunction with films. A 12-inch 78 with Berliner-type grooves could hold between 4 and 5 minutes per side. The first practical sound films produced in the US in the late 1920s had their sound on separate disc records and it was more important for the sound to be continuous. A reel of film might run for 11 minutes, so a rotational speed of about 32 rpm was required to make the sound match the picture. History doesn't tell us why precisely 33 1/3 was chosen, but in retrospect it was a very good choice because stroboscopic speed testers can be made for this speed which will work on both sides of the Atlantic. It seems CBS engineers (who developed the first LPs in 1948), simply experimented with one of the old machines hanging around in their workshop. They then developed new groove dimensions which gave an acceptable signal-to-noise ratio with the new plastic material "vinyl". The 45 rpm speed was the only one to be decided by a precise optimization procedure (by RCA Victor in 1948). Calculus was used to show that the optimum use of a disc record of constant rotational speed occurs when the innermost recorded diameter is half the outermost recorded diameter. That's why a 7-inch single has a label 3 1/2 inches in diameter. Given the CBS vinyl groove dimensions and certain assumptions about the bandwidth and tolerable distortion, a speed of 45 rpm comes out of the formula. From 1894 to around 1930 there were many different record speeds ranging from 65 to 90 rpm, each case being a compromise between playing time and the need for a clean cut in the original wax. The Victor company used 76 rpm for many years for its recordings but instructed buyers to reproduce at 78 the records durability was improved that way. The standard of 78 rpm arrived by default, although the actual speed depended on the electrical mains frequency. Constant linear speed, or varying the rpm, was commercialized but did not prove to be a success (until the arrival of the CD). The speed of 33 1/3 was introduced in 1927 after theoretical analysis of the compromise between signal-to-noise ratio and playing time (3 minutes per radial inch) by J. P. Maxfield of Bell Laboratories for sound films produced on the Vitaphone system. And it was a professional de facto standard before it became commercialized by CBS in 1948. It has been suggested that 78 minus 33 equals 45 was the reason for the emergence of 45 rpm records but, in fact, Maxfield's analysis still applies: the 45 "single" was RCAs equivalent to a 10-inch, 78 rpm record, only smaller. Emil Berliner's first disc gramophones were wound by hand at somewhere between 60 and 100 rpm. The 7-inch discs lasted a minute or so and had low sound quality. Berliner and his assistant Fred Gaisberg realized that unless the speed was governed, the gramophone would never be more than a novelty. Gaisberg visited a young mechanic who was making clockwork machinery in hoping to use it for sewing machines. This machinery was never successful in sewing machines, but was ideal for gramophones, and it rotated at 78 rpm. The mechanic, Eldridge Johnson, became a millionaire. Columbia made all its discs to run at 80 and HMV had its pioneer recordings produced between 68 and 92 rpm with the key of the piece marked on the label. You then tuned it on your own piano, using the gramophone's governor. These speeds all gradually settled into the standard of 78. When talking pictures first arrived in the late 1920s, the sound was recorded separated on discs and had to be synchronized by the projectionist at each showing. Every cinema projection room had a pair of projectors, each taking 1000-feet reels of film, whose running time was about 10 minutes. The projectionist switched projectors after each reel. Ideally, this meant that the sound should last 10 minutes as well, as it would be impossible to synchronize a sound changeover in mid-reel. At the time, however, a 12 inch 78 rpm record lasted for only about 4 minutes, so the Vitagraph company simply slowed down the 78 until it lasted 10 minutes and recorded all their masters on that, starting each disc in the middle, as it was easier to drop a needle there than the outer edge. This new speed was 33 1/3 rpm, adopted for other records in the late 1940s when Columbia introduced its first vinyl, long-play discs with microgrooves, giving a play time of about 30 minutes on each side. However, the long-play disc wasn't particularly suitable to popular music, as the public wanted its records as singles with good sound quality even at high volumes. RCA Victor came up with a 7-inch vinyl disc with microgrooves, rotating at 45 rpm, a speed chosen specifically to make the most of the music, unlike 78s or 33 1/3s. There were also 16 rpm records.

I think I bought this exact vcr or one just like it for $1000 back in 1978. I still have a very old vcr from 1980 Fisher Studio Standard top load FVH 530 which is bigger than the one pictured. I still use it for sports taping & the picture is better than newer vcrs. That's the amazing part. Older is better! When I had it repaired the man who did it - we talk abit. noticed it was higher quality. They worked to improve the quality of the vcr. it only records. timer still works. plays back with no sound. I also have another very old vcr from 1984. JVC I will try & show pics on these - this JVC was the first to allow stereo playback but an additional feature is the higher quality of the picture. It is very noticable. you could not record tv in stereo yet. JVC was competing with Sony & actually beat them

What I'm trying to say is just because they say something is an advance doesn't make it true. it might be a step back. For example if you look at the Dual 1218... The combination of high quality & functionality cannot be topped. in 1968 stereo sound - the "Great Advance" was ushered in. & with it tons of equipment to use it with. in 1969 Dual came out with this great advance. My brother had one so I could se it function up close. Then in 1971 I bought one $150! I still have it & while beat up a bit I still use it. My brother decided to use cds only so about 8 years ago he gave me his Dual & all his records. So I have two now. unfortunately My brother's does not work on the 33 speed. but works great on 45 & 78. So I just use it for that. I could get it repaired easily but they want $200 to fix it Dual in the Movies......if you see some movies from 1969 + you might see a Dual in the background. "Made For Each Other" - I think you can see one in Renee Taylor's room. Dual plays 6 records in a row. How it does it... If you look at the small spindle in the center - that is removable. in its place you pop in a pole 3" long & this Great Advance hold the records in the air. Inside the pole are 3 tiny poles which come out & hold the records. Then the 3 tiny poles holding the records very quickly pop back in & back out - so quickly they allow one record to drop while holding onto the rest of the stack. If there is only one record the machine will play it & turn off. The great advance ...you can do all this with no brain power. An equivalent use of cds requires an enormous amount of brain power. Why do I want to think about the operations of a complicated cd mechanism? I could be stoned or high & it would be impossible. Functionally the cd is a huge step back. Musically its also a step back. Because you can't listen to more than 6 songs at a time. Let's face it. New = Worse most of the time.

the most advanced record player is the dual 1218. it has 3 speed capability & can automatically drop another record & play it. it can play 6 78s in a row. a 78 rpm record is 10 inches. the dual 1218 has 3 settings: 33 /45/78 rpm so the arm will drop exactly at the beginning of each song! After the 1218 the company switched to 33/45 only doing away with the 78 capability. If you look at this picture, on the bottom left is the speed setting & on the bottom right is the inch setting 7/10/12... so with these features its possible to use 7" 33 speed records because the speed & inch settings are separate. with the later models the 7" record was locked into the 45rpm setting & the 33 speed was locked into 12" setting. making it less usable. Here is a closeup pic of the inch setting but in germany they use centimeters or something... with technology this advanced it is all downhill later.

The internet allows everybody to be a critic. I read the reviews on amazon... its my favorite board. around 1990 my cable company informed me basic cable was having an upgrade. It turned out to be a downgrade. Everything was blurry. That's the moment for me when I knew all technological advances were bogus. everything old was better. I would like to hear your opinions. But in any case I dont mind giving mine. I was able to get 4 boxes of 78 rpm records. A woman whose parents used them finally decided to abandon these records. So basically what I got was a familys memories. I had never heard a 78 before. Didn't know what to expect. qualitywize the 78s are in great condition. a 78 can only run 3 min. that was the problem - so in the early 50's lps & 45rpm replaced them just like cds & dvds replaced records & vhs/16mm. even tho I'm using a 1978 amp & 1970's turntable the sound quality of 78s is very good. some companies are better than others. actually in the 70's, the record industry reinvented the 78 calling it a 12 inch single. more to come........

I do have a dvd player that works but its in my son's room & I will use it on occasion when I need to make a good copy but who wants to face his wrath? not me. people are so spoiled now - its an epidemic. I have two entire rooms full of stuff people didn't want. desks, dressers, everything. america is completely out of whack. we're afraid to know ourselves. that's why we need so many drugs...to keep alive the illusion we've created to ourselves. in the old days I had a pal system: player, vcr & tv - still got em. there were a couple of movies never released in this country from england: poor cow & the comedy man. I asked around & somebody sent them from england. they may be available now who knows.

I don't have it. I used to have tcm but I lost it. It was in my pocket & must have fallen out! No when I fell behind they shut it down. I think they want all us rich old folk to buy all these old movies we bought 2-3 times already on the new edition then the new restored special edition then the new extra special blu-ray edition. don't they know when you get old you get poorer? But we need basic cable then expanded basic cable the digital cable then hi def digital ...but we're still getting poorer! there used to be a sucker born every minute - now that same sucker is ripped off 4x every minute! Actually I brought up my theory months ago but for those who missed it, I'll repeat it..........we need a new old movie channel on basic cable with commercials...... one break per movie for 5 minutes - to pay for it. Different versions of movies from TCM - not perfect but good quality VHS quality. uncensored as humanly possible. you get used to the break ..... stuff like Laurel & Hardy , Tarzan, Hammer horror movies, Not so pompous as tcm . more frivolous. fun To learn all you need to know about Tana Fluid watch "the mummy's hand".........

seems incredible how bad everything got so fast. good ol american know-how. we need a fun channel. tcm is so fkin boring. robert osborne is like the mummy limping out to do his intros & then creeping away to drink his tana fluid.

not done talkin about it yet. The Brownlow version was first shown in 1997 & it was restored in 1995 so probably Brownlow was the first to show it. I read it was discontinued for sale so that might be true. Myself - I have dvd playback but for recording I used vhs. I copy dvds onto tape. funnily enough most have no copyguard at all & for years I thought you couldn't copy a dvd! even the copyguards are not much. the dvd players are too difficult to operate - I prefer vhs. my dvd player I got used & it will only play officially made dvds - those made by digital recorder won't play. I have another dvd player that plays widescreen back as a queer picture as I have no widescreen tv. the whole digital thing is so overblown. they are cropping full screen pix into widescreen!? whats the point ruining the ratio? the whole point of the new format is to allow proper ratios & there they go chopping again! ssshhh you're not spoze to know that.

the significance of the ideas you see in Nosferatu were originally from occult secret societies like the Skull & Bones. All Skull & Bones is is an american offshoot of these ancient eastern europe death cults. the republican party & bush crime family have worshipped the death cult all 20th century at least. & certainly this century! whenever a republican is "elected" (since they are all either rigged or from murder) the deal the cult demands is to kill as many (of the right) people on the planet as possible. & they sure do it. during the 80's they served up a plague just like the one in Nosferatu. to listen to george bush is to listen to nosferatu talk. its mind blowing.

my original words on the subject applies to the two versions I taped off TCM. I have not yet seen any dvd versions. These two tcm versions might not be for sale. That's the whole point. If any of you recorded Nosferatu off TCM please answer this thread. Regarding the Blackhawk Films version shown on TCM its 80 min. & was restored by David Sheperd who I have a great opinion of. The other is by Brownlow & I don't know if he restored it himself but he made added the great music by James Bernard. it is 88 min. a little faster than the other version. The Blackhawk quality is the better of the two. & the Photoplay is more complete & authentic words. here is a comparison but these I have never seen. they might be the same as the TCM versions but authorized for sale with changes. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/nosferatu-1/Nosferatu%20Image%20vs%20Kino.html

what about the special ultimatum edition? y'know the one where they make you buy it at the point of a gun,,, I don't buy dvds. but I'll try n get the one you mention. the article I linked was available for $3.50 but I found a free version. the interesting thing is nosferatu has more writing than almost any movie. & all the titles were lost or changed etc. it has 3 or 4 different books quoted in the movie... incredible. its a movie I like alot now that I seen it complete.

I recorded two versions off tcm. the first - the blackhawk films version is an excellent quality print at correct speed but color was added & the color was all wrong. it has no rhyme or reason. the second - photoplay version with james bernard score. usually I watch silent movies silent because the music always distracts me but the james bernard score is one I like alot. the brownlow version has many scenes & bits of footage missing from the blackhawk version. correct speed & the color has been done properly making this version more coherent. I found an interesting article about the restoration by enno patalas which explains much. http://www.celtoslavica.de/chiaroscuro/vergleiche/nos.html hope you like it......