Big_Bopper

One I would like TCM to show is "Woman on the Run" with ann sheridan & dennis o'keefe. It was filmned in SF. I have it on vhs but the quality is funky. dark. could use an upgrade.

I'll trade vhs tapes. I've got over 100. email me at handycam3@juno.com we'll discuss it further.

I should have found this interview when I started this thread but by luck I did find it & it is great. The best show biz interview I have ever seen. he is so honest ......... I started the thread because Michael Winner's early great british pix are being suppressed. The System I was lucky to get from Canada off CBC & it is so good its hard to believe TCM has never shown it. MGM owns the bastardized version The Girl Getters. The Jokers & I'll Never Forget Whatisname are 2 & 3 of an Oliver Reed trilogy. Thats why I started the thread. so ok heres the interview you be the judge. http://thecamerajournal.blogspot.com/2007/09/michael-winner.html

here are some - you can add more if you like........ intermission by anne baxter 1977 lucky star by margaret lockwood 1955 tall dark & gruesome by christopher lee 1977 millers high life by ann miller 1974 please don't hate me by dmitri tiomkin 1959 take one by mervyn leroy 1975 hollywood hussar by john loder 1977 its a hell of a life by edward dmytryk 1979 shake the stars down by yolande donlan 1976 before I forget by james mason 1982 cagney by cagney 1976 all my yesterdays by edward g robinson 1973 my story by mary astor 1959 a life on film by mary astor 1971 the wind at my back by pat o'brien 1964 a tree is a tree by king vidor 1953 i like what i know by vincent price 1959 in & out of character by basil rathbone 1962 early stages by john gielgud 1953 the original sin by anthony quinn 1972 self portrain by gene tierney 1979 each man in his time by raoul walsh 1974 the laugh is on me by phil silvers 1974 confessions of an actor by laurence olivier 1982 dear me by peter ustinov 1978 memoirs of a professional cad by george sanders 1960 i.e. by mickey rooney 1965

lawrence tierney was a nasty boy in The Hoodlum. & I like Cagney in Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye.

"well, this is what I call the long arm of coincidence!" ..... the pope is visiting here today. in the movie it was said: " The pope never visits a city where the newspapers are on strike. well thats show biz! You don't need to respect him just because he pretends he's holy. good point. when I think what they spend on robes & jewels. Look its the pope at yankee stadium! Christ what a mob! it'd be a great location for my yamaha commercial." I see exactly what you mean RB is very political. it has everything to do with jfk being bumped. at that time it was not talked about. I just want to say TCM showed the best version ever seen since 1968. & what I said about the window....in the home video version they show the curtain & the string for the pull down shade & it dissolves ..... the thing is when the girl Terry went out the window, it was mentioned she jumped but actualy the coven threw her out. & taped a note to the window with a bandaid. The castevets were out walking conveniently which gives them an alibi & also seals the suicide in the minds of the cops. the window at the end means Rosemary will meet a similar fate as she now knows too much & can't be trusted. They removed the dissolve. just wanted to clear that up.

Ted De Corsia was a great criminal. he even played a crooked cop in The Killing. I liked Nehmiah Persoff in Street of Sinners. Realistic. Anthony Quinn was great as a thug in Naked Street. Raymond Burr played a great gangster in Raw Deal & who could forget Johnny Friendly - Lee j Cobb.

What I didn't tell you in the previous post... the tape Paramount Home Video sent me as a replacement had a white label & said "studio copy" - see at that time Paramount had never issued a complete version for the public to buy. back then people were not familiar with the movie. they must have sold hundreds of thousands of the cut version. I was the only person who noticed it was cut & they sent me their only studio copy! The only way I found out what was cut was thru a book which had a detailed synopsis. " The Cinema of Roman Polanski" by ivan butler.

It had a sort of queer undercurrent. which is probably why it is not seen often. My thoughts about the tunnel itself is it is much too far to dig. A more practical way would be to prefabricate sections & then drop them into the ocean & connect them. The Atlantic is deep enough so no ship will hit it. maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the ocean is too deep. the pressure would be too great for 1930's tech. I like the leading lady. The one who played the daughter. She was in "Kennel Murder Case".......when I saw her I thought "I can watch this, no problem."

I have the English version with Timothy Dalton. Don't think I ever seen the one you mention.

Normally I hate movies where the character talks to herself but it works somehow in this movie. Ever wonder if little hollywood elves edit the movies when nobody is watching? An awful lot of movies show signs of tampering. I bought a vhs of rosemary's baby around 1990 & it was missing some scenes. Bet you're wondering what was cut. I will tell you but first - I called Paramount Home Video & asked them why they sent me a cut movie. They were very nice & told me to send it back & I did & got an uncut version. Anyway the missing scenes: there are 4. 1. after rosemary wakes up some of the scene was cut - Guy: "Whats the matter?"... Rosemary: "nothing" ..... Guy: "I didn't want to miss the night." Rosemary: "last night wasn't the only split second..." 2. After Hutch leaves Guy: "that was a nice surprise..." Rosemary: "guess what he said...I look terrible" Guy: "good old Hutch, spreading cheer wherever he goes...he is a professional crepe hanger..." Rosemary: "He isn't a professional crepe hanger." Guy: "one of the top ranking amateurs." 3. Rosemary goes to meet Hutch at the Radio City. cut the phone call to Hutch is not cut but after she finds out he's in a coma 4. Rosemary walks & runs into Minnie Minnie: "Well this is what I call the long arm of coincidence!......I said to myself, "As long as Rosemary's out, I might as well go out & do the last bit of Christmas shopping." ....and here you are & here I am!"........Why, what's the matter, dear?....do you feel alright, Rosemary?.......you poor thing...you know what I think?...I think we ought to be going home now, what do you say?" Rosemary: "no no you have to finish your Christmas shopping." Minnie: "Oh shoot .... there's two more weeks yet...." somebody told me the names of the characters are hints at real life people. Hutch is Hitch. & Grace Cardiff is Grace Kelly... etc. On the TCM version, the color is normal but on the home video version the scene with the devil is tinted red. At the very end on the movie, Rosemary looks out the window.... on the home video version you see a curtain & the string of a pull down shade. on the TCM version the curtain & string are missing. little elves. what would we do without them?

I don't know if its a sequel but I think it is. Don Q son of zorro 1923 is a sequel to mark of zorro 1920. both with douglas fairbanks. also son of the sheik 1926 is a sequel to the sheik 1921 both with rudolph valentino. maybee rudy he lern de art of sequeling frum doug.

with regards to the movie, I watched a few minutes & it was awful. There was no story. none. Nothing happened. The group was standing there & had nothing to do or say! The title change had to do with Catch Us If You Can being old by the time the movie was finished. So they changed it to be able to promote it with a new song. I have a video of Havin a Wild Weekend. I wanted to like the movie but there was nothing to like.

Thanks for suggesting that movie. I will be on the lookout for it. It makes sense because Hanks was so blown away by DC5 it stands to reason he would be involved with a movie. & director too. I bet the group is based on DC5. I don't want to say a miracle happened but close to it. I spoke to an at&t lady about my acct. which was 157$ & they taped it & played it back to a supervisor. They dropped all the charges! I got a new revised bill for $23...... all the bill was computer generated profit where if you are late $25 is added etc. plus they shut off my long distance service but continued to charge me $27 a month! Thats nerve. for once a mega monster corporation took its boot off my neck. so I'll be on the web for awhile but I want my I want my I want my tcm............

Normally I choose to think in terms of stuff I like but the 50's Man Who Knew Too Much is so bad it has to be Hitch's worst. This movie is a mess. just awful. doris day singing!

Yes I'm still around. But I don't get VH1 Classic no mo. Joan Jett sang "Bits & Pieces" on the show & to tell you the truth she failed to capture the essence of the song. Its virtually impossible to convey the impact of Dave Clark 5 back then. But Tom Hanks knew it & he tried so give him credit. Back in 1964 I had nothing. no money. no records. I was not tuned in to the culture. All I had was radio & it was free. I didn't know what any of the singers looked like. I was really out of it. Talk about a captive audience. That was me. I think I saw the movie "Havin a wild Weekend" & it was terrible. They had no story. I was able to get all the 45rpm records & they are great. & I have a video of Dave Clark 5 from Disney Channel. Its very good about 45 min. long. Here's a pic. Even color back then was non existent.

Its not what you think. I have no interest in him as an actor. But did you see him on VH1 rock & roll hall of fame 2008? He introduced/inducted the Dave Clark Five. Anyway he wrote this long intro which he recited & it appeared to be autobiographical. In this long recitation he was able to mention each of the Dave Clark Five hit songs. The reason I bring this to your attention is its possible to still see it if you get VH1 Classic. I have never seen Tom Hanks so nervous & worked up before. He must have taken weeks to write it & rehearse the speech. Please check this out! here's dave clark accepting the award. 2 of the group died this year.

At this point I am gunna lose phone service as well. I owe Comcast 150$ & at&t 157$...... of which I have nothing to pay with. if the phone goes, internet goes with it. Oh well I'll just have to live my life in the real world & relate to real living people instead of movie characters & cyber folk. I was off everything for 6 months & then I was able to get back on. that was 6 months ago. lifes a **** & then u die

I just had my digital box turned off for non payment. right in the middle of "october man"...... oh well I guess if I can't afford it I have no right to have it. Maybe I'll appreciate it more when / if I get it again. hope it'll still be around by then. its a great board - yer great movie fans.. tcm has no idea it has such great fans. I'll still post around whenever possible. I still get movies off local tv. & I can write to them & request stuff. c ya round b checkin u out...

ollie & orson

heres a photo clip from THE SYSTEM in which ollie invites jane merrow to his room. they have a bubble fight........ notice how young & handsome ollie was...... heres a poster from THE JOKERS.

Its possible to like both movies equally for different reasons. The Killers has a great opening. The two hit men talk about "bright boy" & what do they do in town..."they eat the big dinner"...."Bright boy says he don't know...".... "bright boy says he wouldn't say"......great lines - great writing - great casting with charles mcgraw & wiliam conrad.....& the guy who played bright boy...cant say enufabout the beginning of the killers. it is my favorite beginning of a movie.

nobody stays on top forever. nobody has an endless supply of great visual ideas. The Jokers might be the most difficult to find. I recorded it off AMC in the mid 90's. could be owned by Universal. Edward Fox has a role in the pic. he keeps trying to guess who the thieves are. after 1967 michael winner became big. that maybe good or bad. the style of these 3 pix fit the time & place & that swingin england scene so well so beautifully - its bound to be downhill afterwards. england movies are all about employment. they use huge amounts of people. in these 3 pix the people are magnificent. aside from turning Oliver Reed loose for three great roles - you have to like Oliver Reed. if you don't like him then it is your problem. in my opinion, Oliver Reed is way better than Charles Bronson. really there is no comparison but michael winner AND Oliver Reed is a dynamic duo & the content of the stories are fantastic. it was downhill for oliver reed as well. just for that brief time a window opened up & a multicolored light shown its brilliance & the just like that no more window. poof it was gone.

I'm actually waiting for a movie right now by him but my main point of interest is the 3 pix he made with oliver reed 1964-67. these 3 movies are as good as movies get. the first The System is loaded with witty dialog & is very difficult to describe. Its complicated as hell but so well done that you could just cry at any moment. So many poignant scenes. You wish it would never end & has a great catchy theme song sung by The Searchers. (the title was changed for usa to The Girl Getters) The copy I have is the original edit from CBC. I believe the american version is missing 10 min. the second The Jokers has Oliver & Michael Crawford stealing the crown jewels. Michael Winner is again on top form & I tell you it is another complicated but exhilarating ride you wish could never end. Once again loaded with interesting bits - overloaded is what he does so well. all three movies have Michael Winner setting up sides in a class war & battling it out! the third I'll Never Forget Whatisname has Oliver doing battle with Orson Welles & many other people & just like the first two this movie is overloaded with wit, sarcasm, symbolism, poignant scenes & it is mind boggling how all 3 of these movies are so similar yet so interesting - could be luck! Unforgettable opening scene has Oliver Reed walking thru London with an ax on his shoulder. The music is by Francis Lai. awesome. I will try & show some pix But feel free to post pix if you like. I am not sure about the availability of these movies. You would think in this age of dvd theyd be easy to get but I had to wait & they were not at all easy to come by. Michael Winner - a great moviemaker!