Big_Bopper

I get to say what I want & you can say what you want. just so you can go bother other people. I pay $17 a month to get tcm so that entitles me to an opinion. I just happen to know what I'm talking about. get an education about movies & come on back. my big toe forgot more about movies than you'll ever know.

Garbo sucks cuz all her movies are MGM. MGM movies are dreck because they had bad writers & the movies have no interesting elements. Except Joyless Street which is a masterpiece. I didn't mention the blacklist so there is no need to personally attack me about it. I don't like these "Star Days" where they play 7-8 movies in a row. I prefer a balanced schedule. There is no question AMC was better. Wanna know something? AMC had blacklist festivals! I'd fall on the floor if TCM ever had one.

TCM don't give away squat. either its fake letterbox or its time compressed. in addition TCM often shows beat versions of movies when good quality versions exist. Like FOOLISH WIVES TCM showed a bad quality 110 min. version when Image has a 143 min. print... TCM showed a bad version of Joyless Street & now that a 150 min. version is around TCM is not interested. TCM is becoming gutless - its an ok channel full of bad MGM dreck. But AMC was much better & analog too. Digital sucks.

not having seen it but knowing its MGM makes it unwatchable dreck.

The situation lies with the studios. They have all these old movies and as people get old the movies become obsolete. They are trying to drain every buck out of them but the clock is ticking. Young people have no interest in this stuff. There is nothing for old people! the radio does not play 60's music. Other than TCM old people are forgotten. its a crime.

"And if you are watching the Encore western channel to see 'Gunsmoke,' then it sure beats TVLand. There is no advertising whatsoever when the old western TV shows are screened. " I have been watching Have Gun Will Travel at 630pm & am - It was a favorite of mine as a kid. Richard Boone is great. I just wish Encore showed older movies. I'm stuck with Encore cuz its attached to the TCM tier.

its exploitation. hollywood had layabouts under 7 year contracts & had to make work for them. so these biopics are an excuse to use actors since they're paying them. speaking of gripes, what gets me is how many movies were destroyed by projectionists cutting stuff like the black footage between scenes. they ruined so many movies its uncountable. another problem, studios can't keep their little scissors under control - constantly trimming pix & throwing the footage away! Like Public Enemy is missing 10 minutes etc. Just about every movie is missing 10 min. or more. Its a freakin miracle if a movie shows up intact - its because it was preserved in england out of the hands of the studios. here they show a print of THE STRANGER cut to 91 min. all the cuts are between dialog. ruining a beautiful 35mm print. same with the INVISIBLE MAN. the cost of restoring $$billions for no good reason mind you but its pitiful how narrow minded people of so called responsibility. MGM destroyed GREED & NAPOLEON & were partners with Paramount in cutting METROPOLIS. now that's a legacy.

Since somebody brought up the subject TCM showed 2 blacklist pix Nazi Agent & 13 Women. There are so many. Did I say I was in favor of TCM showing them?

TCM offered a night of his flix including Gun Crazy, Desperate Search, Cry of the Hunted, My Name is Julia Ross & So Dark The Night. I am appreciative of TCM efforts to showcase Joseph H. Lewis. He did a couple more interesting movies; One in particular The Undercover Man (Columbia 1949) is rarely seen (I taped it off TNT in the 90's) due perhaps to a name in the credits Robert Rossen. The Undercover Man has two of my favorite actors, Barry Kelley & Robert Osterloh. the other Lewis pic is Mad Doctor of Market Street which he made for Universal.

I was looking forward to that movie. when was it scheduled? they also cancelled BEFORE I HANG a great movie.??? how dumb can you be?

everybody makes statements, opinions, judgments every time they post. hollywood never even admitted there was a blacklist. i make statements, opinions, judgments yeah I do all that bad stuff you don't lke. oops I just saw somebody post so go bother them. they are bad too.

the board is to discuss things. thats what I'm doing. We need to define a blacklist movie. its a movie with the name of a blacklisted person in the credits. as such GUN CRAZY does not count officially because the credits have not been corrected. in order for TCM to show a blacklist movie, the name on the credits has to go thru the tv screen. So when somebody says CHINA'S LITTLE DEVILS is for sale, It only reinforces my story since the name did not go thru the tv screen. thats my whole point. only pre blacklist movies count because the real names are on there. & So far I have yet to see corrected credits altho they say they are correcting them. So really there is no use argueing or making personal attacks. tcm chooses not to show them. they have their reasons.

for somebody like you there is no way of proving anything so its not worth bothering to try. lets just say I said something & you didn't disagree you just didn't like what I said . fine

I am not an expert on the blacklist - far from it - altho I am interested. Did it say "Screenplay by Dalton Trumbo" on the credits of GUN CRAZY? Just wondering cuz my previous post says they were going to give credit.

I could be wrong but isnt this a debut on tcm of GUN CRAZY? What I meant to say & its my fault if I have been misunderstood, is that given a choice its easier to not show a blacklisted movie than it is to show it. TRY AND GET ME is a blacklisted movie. I dont think it has ever been on tv. Another rare movie WHIPLASH is a blacklisted movie. I taped it off amc in the 90's. I understand that you want to prove me wrong & TCM does show them. Its just they are very much aware of it & do so as little as possible.

There is a great train movie called TRAIN OF EVENTS which was made by michael balcon at ealing. it is a sort of DEAD OF NIGHT but on a train. 4 stories converge within each other. Stars Peter Finch (debut) & Mary Morris in one story. The problem is it was cut for US release to 69 min. & the original is 87min. so you will have a tuff time finding it.

in order to reply, I hit reply & it sends me to forum home. then I must hit 2 more times before I can reply! the thing about silent movies that always gets me is how much they were representative of the countries they were from. movies were truly free then & as we know now sound caused movies to be more narrow minded. I tend to go along with Kevin Brownlow's choices & productions as my favorites.

I look forward to Silent Sunday since these old pix are like a whole new language. I have an interest in Russian silents since they brought a different political awareness to their pix. AELITA GENERAL LINE STRIKE OCTOBER MOTHER STORM OVER ASIA BED AND SOFA EARTH and one I got from moma FRAGMENT OF AN EMPIRE in this movie a soldier gets blown up & is in a coma & when he wakes up the revolution has taken place. I'd like to see new silent versions on TCM (ussr reissued them with sound messing them up so they had to restore them all to original silent versions.

here is another blacklisted movie i taped off TCM The Boss 1956 News: Blacklisted Writers To Get Credits -- Most Of Them, Posthumously 4 August 2000 | Studio Briefing - Film News | See recent Studio Briefing - Film News news ? The Writers Guild of America has corrected the screen credits of 14 additional films to indicate that they were actually written or co-written by writers who were blacklisted in the 1950s and early '60s. Half of the lot were written by Dalton Trumbo, who died in 1976. Among the films was the 1956 film The Boss credited to writer Ben Perry, who frequently fronted for Trumbo. Another film appearing on Thursday's list, Terror in a Texas Town (1958), was originally written by two other blacklisted writers, John Howard Lawson and Mitch Lindemann, but rewritten by Trumbo when the producer, Walter Seltzer, rejected the initial script. Other writers who will receive credit for films produced during the blacklist era include Carl Foreman, Bernard Gordon, Paul Jarrico, Ring Lardner Jr., Hugo Butler, Cyril Endfeld and Ben Barzman. Only Lardner and Gordon are still alive. ?

thought I'd tell you TCM is showing a blacklist movie sept. 20 The Prowler with 3 people blacklisted losey, butler & trumbo

be nice if they showed some of these pics thruout the year. not just for halloween.

Sure I make mistakes because my print of Blockade is missing the very beginning... nobodys perfect but my original title China's Little Devils is blacklisted since warners own it & it ain't been on... hmmm Here's a couple more The Master Race - RKO by Herbert Biberman- stars George Couloris & Lloyd Bridges I recorded it off AMC & if it has been on TCM I am unaware of it House Of Seven Gables - Universal by Lester Cole - stars Vincent Price & George Sanders Lets not forget Among the Living - a great example of the writing of Lester Cole. what I have been trying to say is given a choice its easier to not show blacklisted movies because of the controversy surrounding them. you can look long and hard to find blacklisted pics on tcm skeds. yet you'll see the same romantic dreck over & over. TCM leans towards the post 1948 period when these people were out of work . you can believe what you want to but I know better.

i have another blacklisted movie: "Blockade" 1938 by john howard lawson. I taped it off a local channel in the 80's. it stars Henry Fonda & Madelaine Carroll. its a paramount picture so its owned by universal. not a great pic but an example of john howard lawson as a writer.

for me to post on this forum - its heaven & i appreciate each & every one of your replies. whether you agree with me that's another story. I have not had access to TCM in the last year. I was not able to afford it. bear with me.

After all these years you'd think it'd be gone & forgotten but like a vampire the blacklist rises from the grave to haunt us. In my opinion AMC was twice as good as TCM & it was on cable. it was not blurry & pixelated.