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Posts posted by Stephan55

  1. Hi Lawrence,
    Yes, but it won't be a regular thing.
    Last Fall I had an opportunity that I couldn't refuse, to get remotely off grid for at least six months.
    My contract was set to expire but the Pandemic had other plans for me.  Now I can't leave even if I wanted to, so I'll be where I am for who knows how long.
    Internet access is distant and limited, so I decided I should make the most of it while I can.

    I have thought about you guys a lot, and wish you all well.
    I think the TCM crowd by nature is perhaps better suited to hunker down, so long as they have access to their favorite channel and each other via these boards.
    But it is important to get outside as much as possible for both sunshine and sanity.
    Less danger outdoors so long as the wind blows and you don't get too close.
    Indoor space is limited and  things linger much longer.

    I imagine most of you folks have been inundated with all manner of information and misinformation about this, But thought I'd post something here just in case someone might find it useful. 
    All things subject to change, of course.

    Good to see the regulars are still here.
    Take care buddy.

  2. The Panic of Pandemics

    PBS NOVA- What We Know and Don’t Know about the Coronavirus
    (Aired: 03/09/2020)
    Clip: Season 47 | 5m 55s
    Here’s what you need to know about the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the disease it causes, called COVID-19.

    PBS It's Okay to be Smart, Shorts- S8, part 6- What This Chart Actually Means for COVID-19 (3/18/2020) 7.35 min docu

     PBS It's Okay to be Smart Shorts- S8, part 7- Why Soap Is Still Our Best Weapon Against Coronavirus (3/30/2020) 13.12 min docu


    The importance of "Flattening the Curve"  is essential to avoid creating a Mass Casualty Triage situation.

    Mass casualties have the potential to rapidly overwhelm multiple levels of care and evacuation.

    When a mass casualty (MassCal) event overwhelms immediately available medical capabilities to include personnel, supplies, and/or equipment, the effective mass casualty response is founded on the principle of triage.

    In the military (i.e. U.S. Army) Triage is a system of sorting and prioritizing casualties based on the tactical situation, mission, and available resources.
    It is the most effective means for establishing order in a chaotic environment and the best method for providing the greatest benefit to the greatest number of patients within the limitations of time, distance, and capability.
    Triage is a constant and dynamic process as casualties move within and through the echelons of care.

    The motto for the U.S. Army Medical Corp is "To Conserve Fighting Strength."
    The  ultimate  goals  of  combat  medicine  are:  the  return  of the greatest possible number of warfighters to combat and the preservation of life, limb, and eyesight.
    The decision to withhold care from a casualty or patient who, in another less overwhelming situation, might be salvaged is difficult for any physician, nurse, medic or EMT.  Decisions of this nature are unusual, even in most mass casualty situations. Nonetheless, the overarching goal of providing the greatest good to the greatest number must guide these difficult decisions.
    Commitment of resources should be decided first based on the "mission" and immediate "tactical" situation and then by medical necessity, irrespective of a casualty’s national or combatant status.

    Triage is performed at each echelon of care.
    The traditional categories of triage (based in priority order of treatment/evacuation) are: immediate, delayed, minimal, and expectant.

    Immediate (Urgent):
    This group of injured requires attention within minutes to 2 hours on arrival to avoid death or major disability.
    The procedures in this category should focus on patients with a good chance of survival with immediate intervention.

    This group includes those wounded who will require surgery, but whose general condition permits delay in treatment without unduly endangering life, limb, or eyesight.
    Sustaining treatment will be required (i.e. fluid resuscitation, stabilization of fractures, and administration of antibiotics, bladder catheterization, gastric decompression, and relief of pain, etc.).

    Patients comprising this group have relatively minor injuries (i.e. minor lacerations, abrasions, fractures of small bones, and minor burns) and can effectively care for themselves or be rendered minimal medical care.
    These casualties may also constitute a manpower resource, utilized to assist with movement or care of the injured.
    When a mass casualty incident occurs in close proximity to a medical treatment facility (MTF), it is likely that these will be the first casualties to arrive, bypassing or circumventing the casualty evacuation  chain. Such casualties may  inundate the facility leading to early commitment and ineffective utilization of resources.  
    To  prevent such an occurrence, it is imperative to secure and strictly control access to the MTF immediately upon notification of a mass casualty event.

    This group has injuries that overwhelm current medical resources at the expense of treating salvageable patients. The expectant casualty should not be abandoned, but should be separated from the view of other casualties and  intermittently reassessed.  
    These  casualties require a staff capable of monitoring and providing comfort measures. But in a Mass Casualty situation, Expectant victims are generally the last to leave the scene or receive treatment.

    Special Triage Considerations:
    Patients who do not easily fit into the standard categories or who pose a risk to other casualties, medical personnel, or the treatment facility may require special consideration.
    Such as wounded contaminated in a biological and/or a chemical battlefield  environment.   
    These casualties must be decontaminated prior to entering the treatment facility.

     Prehospital care may be provided outside of the medical facility by appropriately protected medical personnel prior to decontamination.

    The relevance of the previous explanatory discourse is important because the Civilian Mass Casualty Triage Response is very much like that of the Military model.

    Whereas under otherwise "normal" military and civilian situations, when evacuation and treatment resources are adequate to meet the required needs, the Triage Order are generally the reverse of those of a MassCal situation... Meaning the most severely injured (Expectant) are rescued first for immediate life saving treatment, while those assessed with more minor injuries may be evacuated or treated afterward, if not simultaneously.

    The rational of MassCal Triage is that the most severely injured (or sick) require the most intensive use of resources (manpower & equipment).
    When the resources are ample, no stress is placed on the healthcare chain.
    But when resources are (or become) insufficient and a MassCal situation occurs (through either a "natural" or man-made disaster, or infectious disease outbreak) then the limited energy and resources required to treat a single intensive casualty (patient) could be (should be) "better" spent in treating a greater number of less severely injured or sick casualties (patients) that are more likely to recover and return to either combat or the work force.

    MassCal Triage is ruthless in the sense that decisions are geared toward survival of the "fittest," thereby stretching limited resources to achieve the greatest return of life.

    If there could be a universal civilian motto for a mass casualty scenario it might be "Save as many as you can" or, when resources are stretched to the absolute limit, "Save the most savable."

    In military situations reliable "intelligence" often determines the outcome of strategy, tactics, mission and resource application.
    All are highly variable.
    In a Pandemic MassCal scenario, where emphasis is placed on preservation of the workforce to prevent an economic collapse... reliable "intelligence" is equally prerequisite in determining the outcome, especially with limited available resources.

    In a epidemic situation, if a "spike" in overwhelming sick numbers can be "Flattened" into a less dramatic "Curve" by preventive measures, then a Mass Casualty scenario can hopefully be prevented and a negative Triage effect avoided.

    As bad as it may appear to be, Corvid 19 is NOT the "Big One."
    There are far worse diseases in both nature and mankind's biologic infection arsenal.
    Humanity will survive Corvid 19, irregardless of our efforts to contain it, but the question is Will we retain the lessons learned.
    Consider this a world-wide "drill" for "the next time," when something far more devastating and lethal is encountered.
    If "we" can master this without breaking, and put into practice the wisdom and experience gained, we will be far better equipped to cope when "the next time" arrives.  

    Things to consider for a broader perspective:

    There are several World Wide ("Pandemic") diseases in extent, that infect and kill millions of people each year. Tuberculosis, Malaria, Hepatitis, HIV, Pertussis, and "seasonal" influenza (to name but six). However because these have become so "common" they don't merit the alarm that something "new" generates.
    A pandemic is a disease epidemic that has spread across a large region, multiple continents, or worldwide.
    So although these diseases are geographically "pandemic" and account for millions of lives lost each year, because they are "predictable" the CDC, WHO, and NIH does not classify them as Pandemic, but rather endemic.

    World Total Annual Deaths, as of end 2017

    The More Things Change, The More They Remain The Same
    In these trying times it may (or not) be of some consolation to note that we've been down this road numerous times before.... and managed to survive (albeit though not without taking a beating).
    The problem with short term social memory is that each generation apparently  fails to learn from those hard past lessons, and so we often find ourselves taking the same courses in a "Groundhog Day" like "merry-go-round," doing the same things that failed us again and again.

    Historically, there are only two ways out of a pandemic event. One, is to let the disease run it's natural course, until everyone that can be infected is infected and there are no longer anyone left susceptible to infect. Once the "herd immunity" threshold is reached, the disease is "contained" with relatively few new cases among any members that never achieved a state of "naturally" acquired immunity by infection
    The cost of achieving this type of "social immunity"  can be quite high, depending upon the virulence of the microbe and how fast it spreads and how quickly it kills. The "Black Death" which swept through Eurasia and Africa in the 14th century is estimated to have wiped out up to 125  million human souls (from an estimated Eastern hemisphere population of perhaps 475 million).  By the time it reached Western Europe the impact was particularly devastating reducing that population by at least a third of what it was prior to the outbreak.  For better or worse it changed the European economic systems, and the resulting course of history.

    In the first half of the 20th century, when the United States was fast becoming an economic and military giant among nations, the 1918 Flu pandemic became the second most devastating disease outbreak in known human history, infecting perhaps a quarter of the world population and inflicting possibly 100 million deaths world-wide.
    In the U.S. at that time, during a 10 month period the virus swept through the population, community, by community, killing at least half a million Americans at a time when the population was approximately 100 million (about 0.5% of the U.S. population total) .  We knew little of viruses at that time and had no defense against them, so nature ultimately took it's course.
    Since then humans invented the electron microscope and were able to finally see these once invisible enemies, and began to learn more about them.
    Immunology has made huge strides and we have learned  to contain several of the microbes that plagued humanity since the dawn of time through successful implementation of vaccines. Polio, measles, chicken-pox, and many others are now, for the most part, preventable infections. And the last "naturally" occurring case of smallpox (which has a death or kill rate of those infected of 30%) was diagnosed in October 1977.

    So the second way out of a recurring pandemic event is to acquire immunity by inoculation through the advent and mass implementation of effective vaccines. 
    Unfortunately "modern" vaccine testing, production, and mass implementation is a ponderously slow process and, in fast moving novel pandemic terms, it is impossible for every human population to get "ahead of the curve".
    In lieu of an effective preventive vaccine, the remaining "preventive" measures are implementation of known protective gear or personnel protective equipment (PPE), sanitation practices,  and archaic quarantine of those known to be infected. However without reliable en mass testing  of populations it is next to impossible to determine who is or has been infected by a specific microbe, especially when symptoms are non-specific, or absent altogether.  Which quickly brings us back to the first way out, or natures way of "thinning the herd."
    This is the dilemma we have experienced before, and which we face today. 

    Our social and corporate systems have created and perpetuated extremely vulnerable populations. They are the "weak" among us that are often the first to fall when a pandemic event rears it's ugly head.  But we are perhaps the most intelligent species ever to arise upon this planet. We have the capacity to learn from past experience, from past history, and to anticipate future events, and prepare (or at least be "better" prepared) for them. 
    It is one thing to be intelligent, it is another to be smart enough to act upon that intelligence. So let this be our final pandemic lesson. Let us finally learn so that we can prevent or at least severely reduce the negative consequences of the next one, which will most certainly occur.

    I strongly recommend the viewing (or reviewing) of the following little video lesson.... Déjà vu, anyone?

    PBS American Experience- Influenza 1918 (1998) 51.32 min docu  expires 4/30/2020
    Influenza 1918 is the story of the worst epidemic the United States has ever known. Before it was over, the flu would kill more than 600,000 Americans - more than all the combat deaths of this century combined.

    Flu vs Corvid 19

    5 Million Cases Worldwide, 650,000 Deaths Annually: The Seasonal Flu Virus is a “Serious Concern”, But the Wuhan Coronavirus Grabs the Headlines
    By Tom Clifford, Global Research, February 22, 2020


    The common flu causes up to 5 million cases of severe illness worldwide and kills up to 650,000 people every year, according to the World Health Organization...

    In the US:  The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that so far this season (as of 2/22/2020), there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses for the 2019-2020 season, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths in the U.S.
    The CDC reports there have been 54 reported flu-related pediatric deaths this season from Influenza B viruses. (The Hill)

    Note: Per the CDC
    There are four types of influenza viruses: A, B, C and D (and several subtypes of each type.)
    Human influenza A and B viruses cause seasonal epidemics of disease (known as the flu season) almost every winter in the United States.
    Influenza A viruses are the only influenza viruses known to cause flu pandemics, i.e., global epidemics of flu disease.

    2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season: Preliminary Burden Estimates

    The CDC estimates that, from October 1, 2019, through March 14, 2020, (in the U.S. alone) there have been:

    38,000,000 – 54,000,000 flu illnesses
    17,000,000 – 25,000,000 flu medical visits
    390,000 – 710,000 flu hospitalizations
    23,000 – 59,000 flu deaths
    (The numbers spread is due to extrapolative estimates based on the actual "confirmed" cases)

    NOTE: Flu is an equally opportunistic contagious respiratory illness that often kills by complications from pneumonia (like SARS & Corvid 19). Flu hospitalizations also consume the same resources)

    How does Influenza Kill?  (similar to Corvid 19)
    * Pneumonia
    * co-infection with another germ (i.e. bacteria, or another virus)
    * aggravation of pre-existing conditions (i.e. heart dz, asthma, etc.)
    * a cytokine storm (an overwhelming immune system response to an infx)

    Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) Situation Dashboard

    World-wide COVID-19 data, (as of 3/27/2020 18:00 hr)

    512,701 confirmed cases (by WHO)
    23,495 deaths
    201 countries, areas or territories with cases

    Recent Coronavirus Outbreaks:

    2002-2004 SARS outbreak

    The 2002–2004 SARS (SARS-CoV) outbreak was an epidemic involving severe acute respiratory syndrome caused by SARS-CoV. The outbreak was first identified in Foshan, Guangdong, China in November 2002. Over 8,000 people from 29 different countries and territories were infected, and at least 774 died.

    Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV)

    MERS-CoV is a viral respiratory illness first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012 and has since spread to 27 other countries, including the United States.
    WHO has been notified of 2,494 laboratory-confirmed cases of infection with MERS-CoV.
    858 MERS-CoV associated deaths have occurred since September 2012. (34.4% fatality rate)
    Most people infected with MERS-CoV developed severe respiratory illness, including fever, cough, and shortness of breath.

    Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)

    Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19 aka SARS-CoV2) is an infectious disease caused by Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus 2.
    The disease was first identified in 11/2019 in Wuhan, the capital of Hubei, China, and has since been located globally, resulting in the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic.
    Symptoms: Fever, cough, shortness of breath
    Complications: Pneumonia, acute respiratory distress syndrome, kidney failure.

    NOTE: Although COVID-19 was first identified in Wuhan, China, on Nov. 17, 2019, there is no definitive data to confirm that is where the disease originated.
    A physician treating a patient for a severe respiratory infection had ruled out Bacterial and Influenza viral sources, and intuitively tested for MERS-CoV and SARS.
    Although the infection was not the same SARS-CoV as identified in 2002, the infection was clearly a similar Coronavirus and has since been labeled SARS-CoV2 (aka COVID-19).

    Most human transmissible disease is the result an animal-human cross-over, and COVID-19 (as all known Coronaviruses) is thought to be of animal origin.

    By December 20, 2019  there were 60 confirmed cases in Wuhan and soon after human-human transmission was confirmed.
    At that time at least 266 persons had been identified with the "new" virus.
    As the "new" Coronavirus virus was studied for similarities and differences, protocols for the previous known SARS were implemented.

    A real-time reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction (rRT-PCR) test was quickly developed. The test is typically done on respiratory samples obtained by a nasopharyngeal swab or a sputum sample, with results generally available within a few hours to two days. Chinese scientists were able to isolate a strain of the coronavirus and publish the genetic sequence so that laboratories across the world could independently develop polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests to detect infection by the virus. As of March 19, 2020, there were no antibody specific tests though efforts to develop them are ongoing.
    The FDA approved the first point-of-care test on March 21, 2020 for estimated implementation by the end of that month.

    Since being identified the now titled COVID-19 virus has apparently exploded exponentially across the globe.
    As more and more people are tested approximately half have tested positive for the virus, though most of these cases (approx. 80%) remain asymptomatic or have demonstrated minor cold or flu-like symptoms.
    As more tests are administered the numbers of those testing positive continue to grow, though the number of serious infections is still relatively low (at about 5% of those known to be infected).
    Understandably fears grow along with the rising number of positively identified cases.
    The problem with extrapolating data from these numbers is that universal testing is still quite limited, and it is unknown how long the virus may have actually been circulating among any given population.
    COVID-19 respiratory symptoms are not dissimilar to most other respiratory infections which are empirically diagnosed by physicians without confirmatory tests.
    It's likely that prior COVID-19 infections have been lumped with Influenza and cold statistics. And, because the majority of those infected have remained asymptomatic, they would never have been diagnosed at all.
    It is theoretically possible that the virus has been circulating among world populations long before it was first identified in Wuhan.
    If that should be the case, then it could be extrapolated that the appearance of exponential growth is more a matter of discovering something that was already present, but here-to-for not specifically looked for.

    Recent studies have shown that for persons who develop cold or flu-like symptoms, the incubation period for COVID-19 is typically five to six days, but may range from two to 14 days.
    For those who develop severe symptoms, the time from symptom onset to needing mechanical ventilation is typically 8 days.
    Many of those who've died from complications of COVID-19 have had pre-existing (underlying) conditions,

    Some persons testing positive via respiratory tract secretions have remained pathogenic (contagious with viral shedding) for as long as 37 days (average 20 days).
    The virus has been isolated in nasal secretions, sputum, and in  f e c e s  (even when no longer present in respiratory samples) presenting a lingering potential for transmission via the  f e c a l -oral route.
    The rate of viral decay on various surfaces has ranged from 24-100 hrs (i.e. cardboard, metals, and plastics, etc.) and remained viable in aerosols throughout the 3 hr test period.

    The virus is easily killed by a concentration of at least 60% alcohol, as well as bleach for tolerant surfaces.

    As with most respiratory infections (cold, flu, etc.) the portals of entry remain eyes, nose, and mouth. Avoidance of contact with potentially contaminated surfaces (Standard Precautions protocol) and proper hand hygiene (scrub with soap and water for at least 20 seconds) remains the most effective and universal preventive measure.
    It is unknown if past infection provides effective and long-term immunity in people who recover from the disease. Immunity is likely, based on the behavior of other coronaviruses, but cases in which "recovery" from COVID-19 have been followed by positive tests for coronavirus at a later date have been reported.
    It is unclear if these cases are the result of reinfection, relapse, or testing error.

    Estimated fatality rates vary (i.e. 1-4%), but are likely much lower than presented.
    It is difficult to accurately extrapolate the actual mortality rate for COVID-19 due to lack of universal testing, and because most of those which have tested positive have remained asymptomatic

    There are no vaccines available, but research is on-going and multi-pronged.
    All treatment remains supportive.

    Antimalarial quinine drugs have been used since WW2. These are not antibiotics and malaria is a protozoan parasitic infection, however chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine were previously tested to experimentally treat SARS and are currently being tested on COVID-19.
    Current test results remain inconclusive and thus far anecdotal.
    Hydroxychloroquine appears to increase lysosomal pH in antigen presenting cells inhibiting receptor stimulation which may slow, or inhibit the invasive replication process of the COVID-19 virus.


    COVID-19 patients can remain infectious for weeks after recovery
    By Karen Graham, Mar 12, 2020 in Health

    First Covid-19 case happened in November, China government records show - report
    By Helen Davidson, Mar 13, 2020

    How the coronavirus compares to SARS, swine flu, Zika, and other epidemics

    We’ve Had a Lot of Pandemics Lately. Have We Learned Anything From Them?
    By Rebecca Onion, Jan 30, 2020

    The top 10 causes of death (WHO) as of 5/24/2018


    Sensible Resource Links

     PBS NOVA- What We Know and Don’t Know about the Coronavirus (Aired: 03/09/2020)
    Clip: Season 47 | 5m 55s
    Here’s what you need to know about the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the disease it causes, called COVID-19.


    PBS Amanpour and Company- Infectious Disease Expert Explains How Coronavirus Spreads (Aired: 03/04/20)
    Clip: 03/04/2020 | 17m 26s


    How it spreads, infects: Coronavirus impact comes into focus
    Health Mar 15, 2020 4:47 PM EDT


    What You Should Know About the Novel Coronavirus
    By Madisson Haynes, March 13, 2020 (updated 3/27/2020)


    The CDC is updating its Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) page regularly at noon, Mondays through Fridays. Numbers close out at 4 p.m. the day before reporting.


  3. 43 minutes ago, slim pickins said:

    Sorry I missed your post Stephan. Was away part of last week. Glad to hear you got to finish Tora! Tora! Tora! Watched it many times. I just recently checked out the 2-disc special edition from the library. I'm a bit of history film nerd and enjoyed listening to the optional commentary by director Richard Fleischer & Japanese film historian Stuart Galbraith IV.

    Most of the films have been loading fairly well lately. All but one that is:

    Merrily We Live ( 1938)

    I also noticed the overview:

    and film info:

    databases are empty.


    Yeah me too, I'd seen it a few times before, but just had a hankering to rewatch. But that was the last WATCH TCM ON DEMAND  movie that I have been able to see that I have wanted to see since Thursday night.
    TCM went kaplop (for me & Win 7 Pro & Firefox) last Tues-Wed., then everything worked again for Thurs (Valentines Day), and Friday practically eveything refused to load again (just like in your OP). All except 16 movies which I had already seen numerous times, and half of those (that haven't yet expired) have also stopped loading now. Nothing "new" added since last Friday on will load, and so No WATCH TCM (except live streams) since last Friday.
    I am paying for nothing. And TCM doesn't give a rats Azz. So I am afraid I am cutting TCM out of the cable tier that I pay for (since I'm not getting it anyway) and going down to basic by next TVSP bill day.
    It has to be a Win 7/Firefox glitch at the TCM end, since no one else except those of us that haven't gone over to Win 10, are being screwed by this.
    And since there are still a diminishing handful of "playable movies left, and the Live stream still works, I know that it isn't an adobe Flash conflict, or really even a total Win 7 conflict.
    I've changed nothing before or since this happened at my end, so it's just TCM behaving very badly again.
    But this time I have really reached my limit and the only power i have is to stop paying to be an unserviced TCM subscriber.
    Anyway, good for you, for now. But beware as the past "norm" had been for TCM to mostly screw the various app and alternate device users, now it appears to just be us old-timers still using a PC with something older than Win 10.

    So adios amigo. And don't take any wooden nickels.

  4. 17 minutes ago, Swithin said:

    I remember the first song I ever learned. I was in a car with my grandmother and her friend. My uncle was driving. My grandmother and her friend sang "The Sidewalks of New York." I liked it so much I made them sing it again and again, and I learned it. I must have been four years old, or something like that. It's still my favorite New York song. I deeply resent that this great song has been overshadowed  by that vulgar "Start spreading the news..." song.

    Here's the song with the story of its creation.
    The Sidewalks of New York


    Great remembrance story Swithin. And the narration and vintage photos reminded me of something right out of a PBS documentary. That song is a classic and I've never heard it sung just like this before.
    Very sweet, almost like an homage to a bygone era.
    Thank you, and please share again.

  5. 4 hours ago, Michael Rennie said:

    Chromium is nice because it allows Linux distributions that require open-source software to package up a web browser that’s almost identical to Chrome and ship it to their users.

    Thanks again Mike,
    I'm all for Open Source Everything (Down with DRM, Up with Open Source).
    Yes, even good ole Firefox uses some of the "good" stuff from Google...
    I'll take the good stuff, I just don't want to be strapped by their lousy telemetry spyware anymore than Microsoft's.
    Firefox and Linux has stripped that crap out.

    I think I told you about back when I still occasionally used Google Chrome for troubleshooting. What happened is Googles persistent spyware wouldn't stay contained in the Google browser, it escaped and infected every other browser on my PC. It was a real hassle finally getting rid of it.
    Same'O when MS covertly started loading their Win 10 OS on my machine. I read up that they were were doing it to others and after I learned where the "hidden" MS files were located I was shocked to find that they were doing the same damn thing to me. 
    Another pain getting all that crap outa my machine and blocking all of the so called "security" updates that allowed them to do it again. And that was just the tip of the ice berg. After that No more trust in either Google or Microsoft.

    I remember back in the day when "Just Google it" was synonymous to doing a web search.
    I stopped saying that a few years ago, Now I say "Just DuckDuckGo it."

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  6. 23 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

    Stephen, I remember when Roger Miller became a big star and had all those hit records.

     But I have to tell you long before that he had written a hit record for Andy Williams. Before anyone had ever heard of "Moon River".

    And Up until his death, Andy performed the song at his theater in Branson.

     I'm going to attempt to give you the title right now from memory:


    In the summertime when all the trees and leaves are green and the Red Bird Sings I'll be blue cause you don't want my love.


    Andy Williams and Roger Miller - (In The Summertime) You Don't Want My Love (1960)



    Thanks Princess, I remember the song, but not much about the history around it, so I just checked it out.
    In 1960 the song, written & performed by Roger Miller, was also recorded by Andy Williams, and The Chordettes, Skeeter Davis, and Teresa Brewer in 1961.
    But the lasting impact was not held by either Miller, nor any of the female artists, but as you said it was good old Andy ("Moon River") Williams.

    BTW, I fell in love with "Moon River" off the radio, long before I ever saw Breakfast at Tiffany's. It was another song that I liked so much that I memorized.

    Moon River - Andy Williams

    Audrey Hepburn - Moon River (Best Version)


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  7. On 2/17/2019 at 8:49 PM, Vautrin said:

    My father belonged to a church bowling team and sometimes he'd take me along. I was just

    a kid and had little interest in bowling. I just liked to run around the bowling alley and eat

    junk food and drink cokes. Occasionally I would sit at a table and watch the bowling. There

    was also some kind of sound system that played music. The one song I remember hearing

    was Walk Right In. It had a nice melody and those crazy lyrics. I got a kick whenever it was

    played at the bowling alley. It still sounds pretty cool.

    The rooftop singers Walk right in (1963)


    Ha ha, I remember that one, thank you so much. 
    A year or so later these songs came out and for some reason I kinda have them all jumbled together with the Rooftop Singers (in an appealing way).
    They were so catchy that I even memorized the lyrics to King of the Road and Flowers On the Wall.

    Roger Miller - King of the Road - With Lyrics! (1965)


    Roger Miller "Dang Me" (1964)


    Roger Miller - England Swings (1965)


    The Statler Brothers - Flowers On The Wall 1966 (Country Music Greats)


    Daddy Sang Bass By The Statler Brothers


  8. On 2/17/2019 at 6:18 PM, NipkowDisc said:

    55 years ago my family had a beatles 45 with Help on one side and three dog night on the reverse.

    boy, we shoulda held on to that...

    perry como?...

    SCTV - Perry Como Still Alive


    Too funny Nipper,
    These Perry Como songs were often on the radio when I was a kid.
    (I ended up memorizing the lyrics of the last two). :)

    Perry Como - Catch a Falling Star (Audio)


    Perry Como - And I Love You So (Lyrics)


    Perry Como "It's Impossible"


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  9. On 2/17/2019 at 5:36 PM, cigarjoe said:

    Great string of nostalgia there CJ.
    I fondly remember each as if it were yesterday, thanks

    Imagine, almost sixty years ago, two little kids, one on the west coast, and 2,500 miles away, another over on the east coast, and they may have been listening to the exact same music at the same time. Probably both humming, whistling or singing the same tunes, with their little transister radios held up to their ears.

    I do believe that music can create a bond of "sameness" that transcends all distances and boundaries. :)

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  10. On 2/17/2019 at 5:53 PM, Princess of Tap said:

     I bought my first Yardbirds record in 65, "For Your Love". I was always disappointed that they didn't go further in the charts or in American popularity. Technically they were A Cut Above the Rest. And their debut number was Superior to anything The Byrds or The Rolling Stones had done for their first outing.

     All their numbers were good and I thought all their records were worth buying, but my favorite was "Over Under Sideways Down Backward Forward Square and Round"-- I think that's right because it's been quite a few years.

    I lost track of Jeff Beck in the 70s, but found him around the mid-80s in an album with Rod Stewart: "Infatuation".  Of course, their tour never quite got off the ground for obvious internecine squabbling. Though the two of them did a nice version of "All Right Now" in that album.

     Then much to my amazement in recent years Jeff hooked up with Brian Wilson. Apparently that worked for a little while too.

    for Princess,

    Yardbirds - For Your Love (1965)

    The Yardbirds- Over, Under, Sideways, Down


    Rod Stewart (with Jeff Beck) 1984 Infatuation - LIVE!


    Rod Stewart - All Right Now (Vinyl)


    Brian Wilson with Jeff Beck - Our Prayer / Child Is Father To The Man / Surfs Up


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  11. 1 hour ago, Sgt_Markoff said:

    Two pictures are worth one Kuleshov Effect.


    See where the bias creeps in? The instant loss of rigor? Put any two images side by side and falsehood is the immediate result. Heck, this is what may have led in the first place, to all the wonky coffee-table book popculture theories out there, wouldn't surprise me... :wacko:


    Great, Thank you Sarge for introducing an interesting and very relevant subject (esp. for an "off-topic" movie website)
    And after reading the Wikipedia write up on the subject (since it is, after all, about video image juxtapositions) I present a series of non-textual illustrative adjuncts.

    The Kuleshov Effect

    Kuleshov Effect / Effetto Kuleshov

    The Kuleshov Effect - Everything You Need To Know

    The Kuleshov Effect- A Silent Experiment


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  12. On 2/18/2019 at 5:41 PM, cigarjoe said:

    Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban, I've read his Attack and Defense of Fortified Places, he could tell you exactly how long a defence would last. There are some nice examples of his fortification designs here in the Eastern part of North America.

    Image result for Fort Ticonderoga

    Ft. Carillon (Ticonderoga)

    Image result for louisbourg fort


     Image result for Fort. Duquesne

    Ft. Duquesne

    Great aerial views of classic "Star" forts. The design offers an adequately manned fort to present overlapping fields of fire on each side.
    For their day and age, they were as close to impregnable as the word implies.

    Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban


  13. 3 minutes ago, Sgt_Markoff said:

    frankly I find much of digital 'culture' horrifying. It engenders fuzzy-mindedness; I see people turning into dribbling simpletons before my eyes. Unable to think, assess, question, defy, imagine, plan, or create. Unable to place a finger on the lowest rung of the Kohlberg Scale.

    What a bleak future for humanity this portends. :huh:
    Let us hope that this thread, tiny and videocentric as it is, may offer one small candle to enlighten the darkness upon which we tread.

  14. 4 hours ago, Sgt_Markoff said:

    Unfortunately, I really can't make any promises. I appreciate your seeking my inclusion in the project however, and I thank you for the kind words on my activity here so far. But see, well... Youtube simply gives me a significant headache ...with all the ads and the jargon and the silly icons which need figuring out every time. Second, I just despise 'videos' in general. They don't promote critical thinking as does reading. I can't evaluate or verify anything I might view in a video; whereas I can do so with most texts. An example of one of the few vids I've watched so far (YTD) was the 'found-footage' of the San Francisco earthquake and the streetcar footage of olde New York. But all those dinosaur videos I had to skip. Who made them? Where do they come from? Un-sourced information is just not my thing. 

    I understand where you are coming from. And as a sole source of "information" I do agree with you.
    And I too dislike the embedded "ads" in several of the more lengthy YouTube video's.
    That said, however, I've discovered that once a video has been linked elsewhere, such as a thread in these boards, that any associated disruptive ad does not follow it.
    And too, anybody can say anything, which is why all things need to be fact checked from reputable sources.
    But as a "teaching" tool it is pretty difficult to beat video as it stimulates two of our most receptive senses (sight and sound). And again, the subject matter on a video may already have been well researched and authenticated by the viewer, but presented in both an entertaining, informative and reaffirming way.

    I am thinking that in some of the videos that I will link here that you will already be well informed about the subject and in full agreement. And if not, pause, and web search the topic and present a counter-argument, or expansion upon the subject matter.

    I suspect when I begin posting some of the more controversial "debated" topics, that there may be many such posts.... And I welcome them as that is part of the learning process.

    The dino videos, I posted are easily verifiable by any who care to check. Unless one attempts to counter that evolution is a mere theory which lacks substance of any kind.
    Or if one happens to be a member of the 'Flat Earth Society' which requires quite a bit of information often presented in simplistic albeit accurate terms to make it digestible.

    BTW, I have a few more little map/videos that are rather concise, but very informative in an an audio visual sense.

    I will follow this with a link or two that I'd planned to save for later, but as examples of what I am talking about.
    I know that You possess critical thinking skills, and I welcome any inquisitive and informed discussion about anything.
    Hang in there with us, Sarge. You may find some of this stuff to be pretty good.

  15. 3 hours ago, Michael Rennie said:

    I am not going to visit you in the funny farm when you go bonkers without TCM.

    Boy, I sure hope that TCM withdrawals won't require regular hits with Narcan.
    Especially since everybody here will say "I told you so," and nobody will come to visit me with candy and flowers. :(

    3 hours ago, Michael Rennie said:

    Maybe you worry too much. Just buy a streaming product and enjoy TCM.

    How sad it will be if it comes down to that, one PC just for the internet only with (god forbid) Windows 10 on board.
    No escaping it, evil controls all that we see and hear, and monitors everything that we do.
    And it's name is Microsoft, and its archangel is Google. :rolleyes:;)

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