Stephan55
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Is it just happenstance, or is there a "good" reason why close proximity repeat viewings of movies are arranged the way they are?
*Suggestion For TCM Movie Programers*
When a movie is scheduled to play twice within a 30 day period, for recent example:
The Loneliness of The Long Distance Runner , and Splendor In The Grass
and one of those viewings is on Saturday evenings "Essentials" it seems to me that the Essentials viewing should take precedent over the non-Essentials viewing, rather than have the first viewing precede the Essentials presentation.
"The Essentials" with Robert Osborn & Alex Baldwin allows much more time to provide background information about a particular film, and whets the appetite for an additional viewing. It leaves viewers in a better position to recommend the film to others and provides a nearby chance to see it again on the second replay.
Can anybody explain why the scheduling is like the way it is regarding the above?
Does anybody agree or disagree with this suggestion?
If you disagree, please elaborate.
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Thank you so much for this heads up, *Fred*!
Absolutely zilch on the content of *Fragments* & *Unseen Cinema* (I guess they want to insure that it remains unseen) on either the *Month* print out *Schedule* and the *FULL TCM Schedule*.
Boy I sure wish that somebody would take all this to heart and include a brief summary of what these movies and programs are in the schedule.
Unless one is familiar with a title It's just like pot-luck without it.
Thanks to your post I will be sure to have my recorder fired up and ready tomorrow night!
Thank you again.
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I think I remember seeing seeing The Old Dark House with Karloff, Laughton & Melvyn Douglas, et al sometime within the last two years, But I definitely concur with your entire list of great, seldom seen classics.
If anybody with power is watching, please show all these Again, & maybe Again, say twice a year? as opposed to twice a decade, or longer.
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Oh yeahhh!
She's the main reason I used to watch The Munsters.
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Great links *Kyle*, so we know some of them have been shown here on TCM in the not so distant past.
Sure would like a "Request A Movie" site back on these boards so that I could suggest they replay them again.
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*traceyk65*
Thanks for sharing those clips. Now I want to watch TTC again right away!
All those late, great actors.
Anne Baxter was hot too! Wasn't she.
When I think of Yul Brynner it is most often in the context of the three characters he played in The King & Eye, The Magnificent Seven, and of course, Ramses in The Ten Commandants.
I've seen him in numerous other roles that I liked, but those three are the ones that most often come to mind.
I remember when at the end of his life he did that infomercial about the hazards of smoking!
I'd just seen West World and he looked as strong as ever. Up until then I had no idea he was suffering from cancer.
So sad to loose them so young.
BTW, I saw those three on the "big screen" as well, which may be why they stand out so well for me.
Edited by: Stephan55 on Apr 2, 2011 11:48 PM
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*Fred said:*
*I grew up seeing the old 1930s and '40s horror films shown on TV in the 1950s. They were shown often. There were several syndication companies that sold or rented their packages to local TV stations all over the country.*
Yeah, I remember watching a lot of them on TV too in the late 50's. They seemed as common as flies back then. Forerunner ghoul hosts that preceded Elvira such as Jeepers Creepers, Ghoulita, and I vaguely remember Vampira used to show them all the time, or at least once weekly.
I remember seeing The Fly, The Alligator People, I Was A Teenage WereWolf (with a pre- Bonanza Michael Landon), and The Creature movies (among others) at drive-ins in the late 50's.
I was a Sci-Fi/Horror film fanatic as a kid, and my parents would sometimes treat me to a late Friday night at the drive-in.
Boy you sure brought up a lot of old memories with that post!
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I remember seeing a 24 hr Holloween marathon of all those great Universal films, maybe 10 or so years ago. Maybe I saw them on TCM. I remember they also showed the whole Creature from the Black Lagoon series and both the Spanish & English versions of Dracula (1931).
I do remember that they were shown commercial free and I recorded several on VHS tape, at the time, but sadly, I don't know where those tapes are now, A lot happened after 9/11.
If it was TCM what happened to cause them to shelve these great originals for all these years?
They can evidently resurrect Frankenstein in Aprill 2011, why not more of the rest?
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Does TCM not have access to those great horror classics?
I'd love to have a whole night (or more) of these 1930's-40's Universal horror classics shown commercial free on our favorite channel.
Any chance of that happening?
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I can only get as far as June 1 on the FULL TCM Schedule. Still only the current month in the printable MONTH Schedule... No plot summaries, errors with Letterbox vs full screen, inaccurate color vs B&W, No database links, No ability to select a local time zone before printing....
Hopefully we are inching along back in the right direction...... yawn
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Man, I can almost, but not quite imagine what a spectacle it must have been to see S & D in a big screen theater. I envy you Fred.
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Thanks *johnm_001* for resurrecting this thread from 2007.
I enjoyed reading through it.
*Cinemascope said:*
*Can't even began to imagine what impact it might have made on viewers when it was brand new, and this was part of the long drive to get people out of their living rooms and away from TV's.*
I first saw the 1956 version of The Ten Commandments in a local theater in the early 60's.
I, and the group I was watching it with, thought that it was just amazing!
Of course at that age the special effects especially turned us on, we'd not seen anything like it before.
It was a re-release, but we all thought that it was a brand new film at the time.
In the early 60's I also went to a Saturday matinee and saw my favorite film of all time, the original 1933 King Kong. It was advertised as a restored, unedited version, and it had maybe 3 minutes of partial scenes that had been removed for TV, restored. But seeing it on the big screen, with a brand new youthful audience squealing with excitement only added to my Kong movie experience like never before or since.
In 1969 I was visiting my grandmother. We went to town and watched a re-release of Gone With The Wind at the same theater, and maybe even sat in the same seats, that she and my mother sat in when they first saw it in 1940.
It was the first time I'd ever seen GWTW and it was on the big screen with surround sound.
It was like being in a time machine. Suddenly it was 1939 and I was watching GWTW!
You are right, nothing, not even giant screen TVs can compare to watching a movie in a theater with an audience.
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What about La Belle et la B?te (1946) by Jean Cocteau?
I thought for post WW2 France, still in shambles, it had excellent production value and was very enchanting.
Thanks to TCM my interest & appreciation of foreign & silent films from all corners has increased dramatically.
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Ah yes....
Hedy and Mature in another great DeMille classic with Sanders, Wilcoxon, Lansbury, and a young Russ Tamblyn, among a host of great character actors. Spectacular set design and special effects, especially the fall of Dagon. What's not to like about it.
See, TCM has played that epic a few times in the last couple a years, how about some of the others?
Great idea of OT epics before & NT epics after Xmas.
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In my opinion, the only sequel better than the original Frankenstein, is The Bride of Frankenstein. The two are like bookends that make an almost complete story!
Dr. Pretorious, as played by Ernest Thesiger, has to be one of the most bizarre, tongue in cheek, characters ever presented in cinema...
Especially that scene in the catacombs..."We shall drink to our partnership. Do you like gin? It is my only weakness."
And Una O'Connor's character, helping what she thought was her obsessed husband from the pit of the old burned out windmill... hilarious.
I always felt a great deal of pathos for the poor creature as Karloff depicted him, not as a monster, but a pathetic persecuted soul with a childlike innocence.
Boy, I wish TCM would show both Frankenstein & TBOF back to back some evening, with a few enlightening quips by Mr. O.
Edited by: Stephan55 on Apr 2, 2011 8:23 PM
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Thanks for the link *talkietime*
I had to join the AV forum to view your screenshots. Can't remember, but that may have been the last time I saw Spartacus. I think I even recorded it to VHS then myself. But I've been around quite a bit since then, and I have a lot of stuff in storage.
It is available in the TCM store, I wonder why TCM never seems to show it?
*FredCDobbs said:*
*The Ten Commandments is not an Easter or a Christmas film. It is a Passover film.*
I knew that Fred.
Spartacus may not be a "holiday" film per se, but I think the last time I saw it was either close to Christmas or Easter/Passover, and there were an awful lot of crucifixions in the movie, so I included it with the other three.
Hey thanks for that Wikipedia link about the Spartacus League. Always nice to learn something new.
So from my list that leaves The Robe & Demetrius, anybody else have any favorite S&S flix (holiday or not) that they'd like to share?
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That explains why I've never seen it on TCM. Guess I'll just have to rent that one. What about the others?
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*I'm Spartacus!*
When I was a kid during the Easter & Christmas holiday seasons there would usually be a line-up of theme movies that included several "sword & Sandal" type epics.
Looking over this months schedule, I realized that there were some old familiar movies that I can't remember TCM ever showing and I've not seen for a very long time.
So here is a limited wish list of some movie favorites that I wish TCM would air sometime in the near future.
*Spartacus (1960)*
(winner of 4 Academy Awards for 1960)
Widescreen - Color
196 min
Produced by: Edward Lewis
Directed by: Stanley Kubrick
Screenplay By: Dalton Trumbo
Music by: Alex North
Main Cast: Kirk Douglas, Laurence Olivier, Jean Simmons, Tony Curtis, Charles Laughton, Peter Ustinov, John Gavin, Woody Stroud,
Spartacus is an Epic classic adaptation of the historical gladiator, Spartacus, who led an almost successful slave revolt against the might of Rome early in the first century BC.
Excellent movie and also noteworthy for giving blacklisted screenwriter Dalton Trumbo much deserved, long overdue credit!
*The Robe (1953)*
(Nominated for 5 Academy Awards in 1953: including Best Picture & Best Actor (Richard Burton))
Widescreen - Color
135 min
Produced by: Frank Ross
Directed by: Henry Koster
Screenplay By: Albert Maltz and Philip Dunne
Based on the novel by: Lloyd C. Douglas
Music by: Alfred Newman
Main Cast: Richard Burton, Jean Simmons, Victor Mature, Michael Rennie, Jay Robinson, Dean Jagger, Torin Thatcher, Richard Boone,
The first movie to be filmed in CinemaScope. Marcellus Gallio (Burton) was the Roman centurian charged with overseeing the crucifixion of Jesus. But when gambling at the foot of the cross, wins him Christ's robe it changes his life forever.
After the death of Emperor Tiberius, Jay Robinson plays a quintessential Caligula.
*Demetrius & The Gladiators (1954)*
Widescreen - Color
102 min
Produced by: Frank Ross
Directed by: Delmer Daves
Screenplay By: Philip Dunne
Inspired by the book 'The Robe' by: Lloyd C. Douglas
Music by: Franz Waxman
Main Cast: Victor Mature, Susan Hayward, Michael Rennie, Debra Paget, Ann Bancroft, Jay Robinson, Richard Egan, Ernest Borgnine,
In this sequel to 'The Robe' the Greek slave, Demetrius (Victor Mature), after the death of his master, is sentenced to train as a gladiator in the Roman arena. There his newfound Christian faith is put to the test.
Jay Robinson reprises his role as Caligula, a character he has always remained associated with in my mind.
*The Ten Commandments (1956)*
(winning the Oscar for Best Visual Effects and Nominated for 6 more Academy Awards in 1956: Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Cinematography, Best Costume Design (Edith Head, et al), Best Film Editing, Best Picture and Best Sound,
Widescreen - Color
220 min
Produced by: Cecil B. DeMille, Henry Wilcoxon
Directed by: Cecil B. DeMille
Screenplay By: Dorothy Clarke Wilson, J.H. Ingraham, A.E. Southon, et al
Inspired by the book of Exodus
Music by: Elmer Bernstein
Main Cast: Charlton Heston, Yul Brynner, Anne Baxter, Edward G. Robinson, Yvonne De Carlo, Debra Paget, John Derek, Sir Cedric Hardwicke, Nina Foch, Martha Scott, Judith Anderson, Vincent Price, John Carradine, Michael Ansara, and many, many more...
The classic story of Moses comes to life in DeMille's gigantic retelling. Egyptian prince turned Prophet of the Hebrews (Charlton Heston) vs Pharaoh Rameses (Yul Brynner) his one time friend and adopted brother duel over the fate of the captive Hebrews.
*The Ten Commandments (1923) Silent*
Fullscreen - B&W Silent Epic
136 min
Produced by: Adolph Zukor, Jesse L. Lasky, & Cecil B. DeMille
Directed by: Cecil B. DeMille
Screenplay By: Aeneas Mackenzie, Jesse L. Lasky, Jr., Jack Gariss, & Fredric M. Frank
Inspired by the book of Exodus
Main Cast: Theodore Roberts, Charles de Rochefort, Estelle Taylor, Julia Faye, James Neill, Lawson Butt, Clarence Burton, Noble Johnson, Edythe Chapman, Richard Dix, Rod La Rocque, Leatrice Joy, Nita Naldi, Robert Edeson, Roscoe Karns,
Cecil B. DeMille's first production of "The Ten Commandments," casting Theodore Roberts as Moses and Charles de Rochefort as the pharaoh Rameses. Contrasts the ancient Biblical tale with a "modern" morality play about two brothers.
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Does anybody else have some old-time favorites that they'd like to share?
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Thanks, lzcutter
There have been so many posts its in that thread it's difficult to wade through them all.
Good ole Dobsy.
Some of this contact info may be outdated, but at least its a place to start.
Thanks again
*GlenEsq posted*
Re: Problems with the Upgrade
Posted: Apr 1, 2011 12:22 AM in response to: lzcutter
@FredCDobbs - I phoned Seth Miller a couple of weeks ago after seeing his name and number in this thread via TCM facebook info. He's in a new job now "that facebook information is the old information". Took my complaints about the monthly schedule and promised to pass them along to the developers.
I would recommend people send their complaints higher up the food chain.
*FredCDobbs posted:*
Re: Problems with the Upgrade
Posted: Mar 31, 2011 10:02 PM in response to: cinemafan Reply
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Looks like somebody at TCM finally noticed & corrected the time discrepancies in the first release of Aprils schedule.
Still no plot summaries, and no ability to get the schedule in my time zone, but...WTH
Now to reprint this thing all over again.
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Looks like somebody at TCM finally noticed & corrected the time discrepancies in the first release of Aprils schedule.
Still no plot summaries, and no ability to get the schedule in my time zone, but...WTH
Now to reprint this thing all over again.
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TCM is the central hub that all this revolves around.
We know that the primary culprits involved in this fiasco is/are the ones who authorized/approved it and those (likely an outside web design company) who implemented it.
We know that the Web Administrators here are essentially helpless aside from locking up/deleting threads & posts, and gathering whatever "data" and submitting it to some unknown entity who neither keeps them or us informed about whats going on.
We know that the vast majority of employees at TCM obviously have bigger fish to fry and are likely disconnected with this website and those that use it.
So where does that leave us here?...
We are asked to be perpetually patient waiting for improvements and a resolution to what (to us) are some pretty important issues when it comes to using this website and being able to watch and record TCM as we used to be able to do.
Granted, on the world scale of affairs all this is really of no importance, but in this little orb it does affect us somewhat personally.
Yeah, I can easily live without TCM, and the convenience of a coherent schedule and website that helped make it a pleasure to watch. But I'd rather not, if at all possible.
We would love to write, call, email, the persons directly responsible. I would love to blog about the incompetent Web design company that implemented this mess and warn others considering hiring them. But likely they have a story to tell as well, how they were inadequately informed as to what the "new" website was to actually do in form and function.
I would love to be able to inform the superior at TCM of whomever approved this mess of what it has done to the morale of long time (PC) users of this website and how it hinders our ability to enjoy the TCM movie lineup.
I believe that for every member who takes the time to post about their frustrations (and satisfactions) here that there are from dozens to hundreds who use this site that feel likewise, without ever posting about it.
I personally wish that someone in the TCM world, either involved or aware of all this, would give us some names. Give us a more productive direction to vent our frustration and to share our suggestions than just here, where nothing positive seems to be happening.
It's great to be able to use these boards to communicate with fellow members, but when events like this occur we need to be able to communicate with those who are responsible for the changes that affect the way we use the boards. The Web Administrator "mediators" here seem to be getting nowhere, we need to be able to go higher up.
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So do you like the way this schedule has been presented or are you unhappy with it?
Or does it matter one way or another to you?
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*What's Wrong with this Months schedule?*
Has anybody seen how messed up this monthy schedule is?
Here's just one tiny sample:
*April 2011, ALL times Eastern*
*25 Monday*
*7:30 PM Now Playing May (2011) (2011)*
* BW-0 mins, CC, Letterbox Format*
*3:00 AM The Red Badge of Courage (1951)*
* Cast: Audie Murphy, Bill Mauldin, Royal Dano. Dir: John Huston.*
* BW-69 mins, TV-PG, Letterbox Format*
*4:15 AM No Greater Glory (1934)*
* Cast: George P. Breakston, Jimmy Butler, Frankie Darro. Dir: Frank Borzage.*
* BW-74 mins, TV-G, CC, Letterbox Format*
*10:15 PM Gettysburg (1993)*
* Cast: Tom Berenger, Martin Sheen, Stephen Lang. Dir: Ronald F. Maxwell.*
* C-254 mins, TV-14, Letterbox Format*
*8:00 PM Glory (1989)*
* Cast: Matthew Broderick, Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington. Dir: Edward Zwick.*
* C-122 mins, TV-MA,*
*26 Tuesday*
*6:00 AM Swing Your Lady (1938)*
* Cast: Humphrey Bogart, Frank McHugh, Louise Fazenda. Dir: Ray Enright.*
* BW-77 mins, TV-G, CC, Letterbox Format*
It jumps from PM to AM & back. Times don't match the run times of movies. Letterbox for Full screen & vice versa... Doesn't anybody at TCM take the time to proof read this stuff before posting or emailing it out.
If TCM needs proof-readers I'm sure any number of the members here would gladly do it for the rest of us since we must do it for ourselves to make sense out of any of this gibberish.
This is honestly the worst mess I have ever seen since I first began coming to this site several years ago.
I'm actually embarrassed for the incompitents that are responsible for this!
RARELY SEEN GEMS 4.5 hours Sunday Night 4/3
in General Discussions
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It sounds like these special program events are getting detailed coverage everywhere except on the schedule itself, where I think most of us go to see what's coming up.
As far as Now Playing, The Show is concerned, I enjoy it when I get a chance to see it, but if that is one of the few ways that I must now become informed about the significance of upcoming specials then I guess I'll have to make a mental note to record it each month so I hopefully won't miss something that I might want to see or learn about, since I can no longer rely upon a Monthly or Weekly or Daily schedule from TCM for that basic information.
I guess I'm going to have to search this entire website and beyond (as Fred does) each month, for any shred of program details that are sorely lacking in the most basic, minimalistic fashion in the schedule that used to provide such information.
Am I the only one to see how screwy this is. In the old days they'd call this "placing the cart before the horse."
Once again, I thank Mr. Dobbs to bringing this to my attention as these are specials that I most definitely wouldn't want to miss, and likely would have were it not for the "outside" information that he provided in his post.
So sad that this is what it has come down to.
Oh how the mighty have fallen....
Edited by: Stephan55 on Apr 3, 2011 2:00 AM