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Great! I hope TCM has been able to unearth two of his rarely shown films. THE EVE OF ST MARK (1944) a powerful war film based on a Maxwell Anderson Broadway play and CHAMPAGNE FOR CAESAR (1950) a hysterical comedy with Ronald Coleman, Celeste Holmes and Art Linkletter. Pardon the pun, but Vincent is just "priceless" in it.

> {quote:title=Geraldddddd wrote:}{quote}Unfortunately, I have no clue how to tune into ch. 13.3 ?:| Assuming you have a digital TV or a digital converter box, it's easy. Click the menu button on your remote and there will be something on the list called "set up" or similar. Click on that and on the next menu you'll find a place to click and scan or add channels that your device will receive. After you do that, if you can get 13.3 it will show up. FYI the rescanning process can take as much as 20 minutes so do it when you are not in a hurry to watch anything. If you have the instruction manual that will show you how to do it. Good luck.

> {quote:title=mrroberts wrote:}{quote} So I assume that means NO editing, That might not always be the case. Perhaps, the channel itself doesn't edit the films, but that doesn't mean the film hasn't been edited before they get it. Often distributors will edit films, sometimes for content, but mainly for a uniformity of running times so each film has the same amount of time available for commercials. Sometimes that will be the only version they make available. For many years I ran the film department at a local station and towards the end of my career almost every film (by then only distributed on tape) came to us in a pre-edited version that had been cut to 92 minutes, for a two-hour time slot, regardless of its original running time. TCM has been burned more than once when an edited version has been sent to them instead the uncut version ordered.

The whole show wasn't interviews with those stars. Much as with today's late-night talk shows Carson would start with a monologue and then sometimes followed by a comedy skit or musical number and then two or three guests. The ten minutes or so that you see on TCM is pretty much the whole interview. I think what makes them choppy is that they've edited out Carson's intros to commercials that came during the interviews. I enjoyed watching the first batch and even remembered some and I thank TCM for that. I do think though, that rather than watching an hour of them, I'd prefer to see them running one at a time as fillers between movies which it appears that TCM will be doing.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}The only connection that I can see is that baseball and the 4th of July have long been interwoven. Maybe it's a reminder that if we hadn't gained our independence, our national pastime might be cricket.

Looking at that list makes think that perhaps, years ago, the Oscars should have taken cue from the Tonys and had seperate categories for both best actor/actress in a musical and for a non-musical. Broadway discovered a long time ago that musicals can take a different set of skills than a drama. So how can you really compare Prof. Harold Hill with Atticus Finch?

THE MUSIC MAN is a favorite of mine. The problem is that every time I watch it I tend to sing the whole thing. The summer it was released happened to be the year that I had my first summer job which was as an usher at huge old movie palace. I must have seen it thirty times and by the end of the run knew all the songs and most of the dialogue. I still like to watch it now and then, but usually when I'm alone. "Seventy-six trombones led the big parade...." See there I go and I'm only thinking about it. Let's see now, where did I put that DVD?

I don't know, At first I thought that premiering the restored version would be a big deal and they wouldn't do it at midnight, but then it occurred to me it's only 9PM on the west coast and TCM likes to give them first crack now and then so they might. I guess I'm just going set my DVR and see what I get.

> {quote:title=TheCid wrote:}{quote} do movie makers really think people can read these credits? They don't care. The reason all those credits are there is because they are required either by union contracts or other obligations with the producers. As a result the studios require that channels running the film MUST run all the credits. Understandable, but the catch is they don't have any requirement that they must be readable. As a result, credits are often squeezed into a small box or put at the at the bottom of the screen and scrolled through so fast that what took 7 or 8 minutes in the theater goes by in 30 seconds or less.

> {quote:title=slaytonf wrote:}{quote}Do not feed the trolls. Skewer them. The worst that can happen to a troll is to be ignored. They eventually curl up and die from boredom.

> {quote:title=johnn8313 wrote:}{quote} What is going on with the programers thinking over there. Like all films that were once part of the former Turner Library, GETTYSBURG is now controlled by Warner Bros. (thank's to Ted merging his company with Time-Warner years ago). Warner aggressively markets those films to other channels and TCM has had to compete with them for the same films that they once had unlimited use of. Because of the anniversary, there would probably be a number of channels who would be interested in that film and that would result in a bidding war. If that's the case, I would not be surprised if it turns up someplace else. There's one channel in particular, which will remain nameless, that seems to have endlessly deep pockets.

Just tonight I got a round to watching a recording of THE UNIVITED that I made in the fall and in the intro Robert O. said it was one of his favorite haunted house films.

> {quote:title=roverrocks wrote:}{quote} My good wife is one of those sad people who won't give silent films a chance. I have a hard enough time trying to get her to watch any of the talking classics occasionally. Bugs the heck out of me!! Sorry to hear that. Other than a handful of films she fondly remembers seeing as a kid, my own wife isn't a classic film buff either. I've tried to get her interested, but that just didn't work. We have enough other mutual interests that it doesn't bother me anymore. I'm fortunate we have a very active film society here so I have a number of good friends who like what I like and "speak my language". I'm also lucky that my wife is very understanding of my "addiction" and has no problem with me doing film-related things with my like-minded friends. I think she enjoys having the house to herself on the nights I'm at a screening or whatever. I've always found it interesting that, with a few exceptions, most of the avid film buffs I've known over the years didn't have a spouse who was as passionate about classic films as they were.

That happens fairly often. Often the trailers are produced and released months before the final cut of the film is made which results in scenes being in a trailer that isn't in the film.

No doubt THE KID is my favorite Chaplin film. The sad thing is how many people will never experience the greatness of that film because it's a silent film and most people won't watch silent films. It their loss.

I knew it was coming. It's seems to happen at least once a year. The schedule isn't out when people expect it and the speculation starts that TCM might be changing formats and going down the road that AMC took. All it takes is one comment and the boards can go postal with predictions of Armageddon. Give it a rest folks, TCM is doing just fine. From time to time a schedule gets held up because TCM is trying to clear the rights to some films or otherwise working on something special and doesn't want to announce the schedule until everything is locked up. It's also summer and maybe some of the program staff are on vacation. I have no doubt that on September 1st the sun will come up and TCM's format will be just the same as it is today.

You're correct. The TCM catalog was basically the Movies Unlimited catalog and other than a different cover and some internal customizing for TCM the content was the same. My guess is those catalogs were pretty expensive to produce and TCM just didn't sell enough of them to make it worth continuing. Even though some people found it to be a useful reference source, a lot of folks balked at paying ten bucks for "just a catalog". MU still publishes their version of the catalog which is available at their website [moviesunlimited.com] and still handles order fulfillment for DVDs and other TCM merchandise.

> {quote:title=TopBilled wrote:}{quote} I am sure there is an un-cut copy of this film in existence. Somewhere. That may well be, but, just because a better, more complete, print of something still exists, it doesn't mean the it's available to TCM.

Keep in mind that prior to Supreme Court rulings in the 1960's many states, cities and local communities had censor boards which could require cuts in films. There was no single standard so what might have been cut in one place may have been perfectly fine in another. As a result, a studio might have numerous prints all with different cuts. Other than a notation somewhere that this print was approved for showing in New York or that print was okay to show in Salt Lake City the studios kept very little information on what each print contained. As we well know, in those pre-TV days, some studios basically just let their negatives sit and rot thinking older films had little or no value which means that in some cases only cut prints survive and those are what's used today to make the digital masters TCM and other networks use.

When TCM bumps a film for a tribute, they usually reschedule it within three or four months. My guess is these films will turn up again in September or October. Tributes are a no-win situation for TCM, some people complain if they bump films and do one and others complain if they don't.

> {quote:title=DougieB wrote:}{quote}Please, TCM, sit her down with Robert pronto. You're assuming that TCM hasn't asked her. My guess is that the first thing they did when it was decided to do her films was to ask her to co-host them. There have been various stars that TCM has been trying to get for years and their requests have been turned down numerous times simply because those stars didn't want to do it. Perhaps that's the case with Mamie.

> {quote:title=FlyBackTransformer wrote:}{quote} > and yet some years ago TCM *themselves* have aired The Thing from Another World colorized. That was back when Ted Turner owned the company and was also a major force in the move to colorize movies. Fortunately, Ted saw the error of his ways and gave up the whole colorization thing.

No need to apologize, this forum is fine. I get TCM via satellite from DirecTV and can't say that I've heard anything more than, as you pointed out, what you'd expect from early film soundtracks. I'll go along with the suggestion that you call your cable company.

> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}I wonder how Svengoolie gets to show so many Universal horror films on Metv? They are run constantly on Sat. nights (not every wknd, but quite a bit).... The same way TCM or any other channel gets films. They bid on them. The one with the deepest pockets gets the films. Of all the film packages that are out there Universal horror is one of the most sought after. Even networks that don't usually run old b&w films often put out big bucks to get them, if for no other reason than to have them for Halloween. Same thing is true for Christmas films.

> {quote:title=infinite1 wrote:}{quote} > Hows about this for a suggestion, TCM stops hyping and hawking UNIVERSAL DVDs until UNIVERSAL makes nice with their classic film library and lets TCM draw from the well on a regular basis. For a reasonable price of course. Do you really think TCM plugs those DVDs for nothing? The "hyping and hawking" as you call it is probably part of TCM's deal with Universal for the films that they are showing now or have under contract and haven't started yet. Going toe-to-toe with Universal won't solve anything.The trick is to have good relations with the studio and hopefully that will open up the vault door wider in the future.