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I am going to have to watch The Furies, right after I watch Caged, all the rest of the Fritz Lang movies I recorded, etc, etc, etc.......in between Scooby Doo and old Pink Panther cartoons that my girl is watching...... Ha.... so many movies.. so little time... I hope you do get to watch it.. but I have to say... The Furies is NOT your typical western.... It took me a little while to warm up to it... there is a story there, though... once it gets going. And BOY oh boy... I LOVED (to hate) that Walter Huston.... Here's a little preview for you (but watch it in a QUIET room... the sound quality is a little poor) Still... I think it will give you just a tiny taste of how mean that old man can be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PICtVfb20&feature=related

HA! It must be making the "school kid" circuit... because it was also in a joke book that the kidling checked out from the library... But it must be a classic... ha... because seeing it here... even after hearing her read it about 850 times.... still funny. Ha.

Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... and ha. I needed a good laugh, right about now, little lady... ha. I did not realize I was quite so scary!!! But YOU, little young'un have NOTHING to fear... I KNOW you are a faithful rambler. And PS... re: The Furies... It was your remark about the Greek Tragedy that made me bring it up... I watched this movie for the first time about 3 or 4 wks ago.. and I have to confess... I am STILL trying to shake off some of feelings I was left with from this movie... I liked it.... I hated it... It was riveting.... It was repulsive... ha. (Oh wait... I think I said this earlier in my reply to Mr. Grey... The Furies... don't get me started... ha. )

CONGRATS little lady for 4000 terrific posts!!! Keep Posting Young'un!!! :-) I was googling around for a nice pic for you of our beloved Ben.... and came across this link instead... you may have already seen it... but I thought it was a pretty interesting little send up to him so decided to post it... Enjoy! http://dougoneal.com/ben_johnson.html

Howdy Mr. Grey.... Have you been in Fordy Guns' champagne? Sir, you are talking to a teetotaler.... But I HAVE been known to hit the bottle (of caffeine free COKE) pretty hard from time to time... ha. it is hard to keep a good rope frozen this time of year...) Is that so? Hmmmmmmmmmm... NEVER fear... I have a walk in freezer full of those lovely little woven beauties should the need arise... never thought Jimmy could be the kind of actor who would play a character with rage, but he does so in a few of his westerns with Anthony Mann, and he does so earnestly I think you are right about how well he carries it off... but I have to say... I prefer him in roles where he turns it on and off (like in Liberty Valance) instead of going full throttle throughout most of the story (maybe why I don't like Winchester 73 so much) Talk about a patient woman! She watched her Alec marry and have a son, yet she still carried a torch for him. And when she gets him, he's blind. I don't know if she so much carried a torch for him as she just waited for him to "see the light".... and yes... you mentioned it earlier... he had to become BLIND before he could see. The "wedding" scene is an example of a wasted opportunity with Barbara, Vic, and Will. That is a PERFECT example... good eye there, young'un. I enjoy the showmanship of the bad guys. Many times, they are more entertaining to me than the good guys. Now that does not surprise me at all to hear you say that. :-) What makes Mann's westerns standout for me is that his good guys are often just as fascinating to me as his bad guys. They seem to have a lot of "layers" and that does tend to make them more interesting. Most of my favorite westerns feature good guys who are either mysterious, have a dark past, or are madly driven. And would THAT be because YOU are a combination of all three????? ha. (or maybe NOT so "ha"... "Mr. Man in the Shadows") Seriously though... I think it is fun to see a "good guy" who has a little mystery to him now and then... it is even MORE fun to see an "unwilling" good guy.... someone who gets caught up in doing the right thing because he clearly sees it is the right thing to do... whether he wants to admit it or not (a la our beloved 3 SWEET Men.. I just can't call them "Bad"... ha) You have quite a list there... but you KNOW what I am going to say about your # 1 choice already, don't you.... Once Upon a Time in the West UGH!! BLECH!!! ICKY!!! YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BREAK OUT THE PEPTO BISMOL.... I am gonna be SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha. (Blame it on Henry Fonda for being SO GOOD at being bad... ha) What have you done to him?! You are the most likely suspect since you are constantly looking to do him in. Have you stumbled upon your own Ox-Bow OH say it isn't so.... (actually... I have it on good authority that the poor desperado is under the weather.... hopefully he will be back on the boards and dodging bullets and ropes with you SOON!!! ) Of course... this COULD just be another one of those "excuses, excuses... kinda things... I am going to give him a LITTLE slack.. (it is always good to let the rope out a LITTLE just before you drag them back in... ) (Get well soon, Molo) :-) PS... JACKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I loved your comments about TMFL.... I especially like your mention of the colors.... VERY good eye as always, young'un.... I think that Mann was going for a Greek Tragedy here. Crisp was the overly powerful yet deluded and foolish patriarch, let down by his family....full of hubris. Hence the dream part, which I actually liked. I think it could have been pointed up a little more, maybe made to be more of a threat to him.... because it shows the human frailty of this strong man. A man not afraid of anything solid and earthbound, but ruined by his fear of something in his own head Have you seen The Furies??? ALWAYS TAKE YOUR SIDEKICK WITH YOU! You need witnesses to prove you didn't kill someone HA!!! So true! But at least the sheriff seemed to have a pretty good idea of what was REALLY going on ( for the most part) But if Jimmy HAD listened to you then I would have been happy for more than one reason because I say again: I would have LOVED seeing more scenes with Wallace Ford. There was just something about him that I liked (especially the way he stayed w/ Stewart when all the other guys decided to take their pay and go home) I think this might be the first time in a long while that I thought he was attractive OH! What would BEN think?? ha. Seriously, though... Jimmy does have a way about him sometimes. Ha. :-)

You know me so well. :-)

feel bad because I don't have any from Mighty Joe Young for you Oh don't feel bad, young'un... you are too sweet for your own good... and besides... it looks like you found a couple of good ones. And also.... I just watched this w/ the kidling not all that long ago!! I still stand by my statement... it's my fave for him...ha. (but maybe for sentimental reasons... because you have REALLY been showing me a whole new side to him and his talent as an actor w/ all your posts) Keep up the good work kiddo. I am really enjoying these pics!! Thanks again!!

OH MY GOLLY!!! I have not been making the rounds on this board too much the last week or so... and tonight is the first night I have really traveled around to check out a few threads other than the rambles... and when I popped in here what did I find?????????? It's a veritable treasure trove of screencaps of our beloved BEN!!!!!!! WOW. Thanks SO very much Ms. Favell... what a terrific time I have had in veiwing all of them... I WOULD try to tell you which one is my fave.. but everytime I think I have settled on one... then I find another... I think though... I really like the one where he is looking all "Aw shucks" (I just love to say that) while he has his hat in his hand. Thanks again for the great caps, young'un!! :-)

Hollywood and...you guessed it...Bo-Vine. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and.... moo.

Woo Hoo.. It's the Grey Guy... Does this board even feature real discussion anymore Well..... I don't know how to answer that one.. Lately, I tend to just keep my head down and only pop up when I have something to say now and then. But sometimes my little head pops up more than others.... so I guess this is one of those times... (But PS... I am so glad you showed up here tonight... it is hard to keep a good rope frozen this time of year...) Before I get into The Man from Laramie, I must preface by saying I've seen four of the eight Mann-Stewart flicks: I have to confess that he is not a director I know a whole lot about. (as if there were ANY directors I could TRULY say that about.. ha... I am such a "wannabe" compared to some of these more learned folks around here) But I looked up his filmography and saw that I have seen a few more of his films than I first realized. Anyway... as far as his westerns go... I am not a big fan of Winchester 73 but I do like the Far Country very much. And as mentioned earlier... I liked Bend of the River too. I recently saw The Furies... (Now THERE's a messed up family story for sure... don't get me started... HA!) and I saw Cimarron last summer and I believe The Tin Star is the Henry Fonda film I only saw part of because it was on BEFORE I got my VCR and could not tape it... and that was the now infamous night that the QT came home and said... "Hey, let's go out to eat chinese food." just as I was starting to watch... ha... (at least I DID get to see the end of the movie though) :-) Of what I've seen of his westerns, I'd say he likes placing a man with a dark past in a position where he must confront his demons, thus proving and redeeming himself with himself. I consider him to be a "masculine" director. I think you have him pegged more or less... That sounds like most of the stories I have seen (except maybe The Furies and perhaps Cimarron) But even w/ those exceptions I'd have to agree Mann is a "manly man" kinda director... ha. I just love seeing an angry and determined Jimmy Stewart. That's the Stewart I like the most I have to agree with you. He was such an "every guy" in a lot of respects in many of his films... so I think when he gets an "angry and determined" sort of role or even if it is just one scene... you really sense the STRUGGLE. Aline MacMahon was wonderful, as was Donald Crisp.The Alex-Kate love story wasn't in our face, but it really was the underlying story. That's where you'll find the heart of the film. I like how she stood by him from a FAR off distance for all those years... and I also like how she was one of the few people who really seemed able to hold him accountable. She KNEW the mistakes he'd made... and she did not let him just get away with them. She stood up to him in her own way. But most of all... she just loved him for REAL... even when he was REALLY hard to love. And even though Cathy O'Donnell is a growing favorite of mine, I feel like she isn't used properly in this film. Having said that, in my latest viewing of the film, her scenes at the end are now some of my favorite. She's a sweetheart. I think this is one of those times I mentioned earlier where either the writing (or possibly Mann) let her down. I think she COULD have had a really good part in this film if the character had a little more "umph" to her. I completely agree with you. You now feel ill, don't you HA!!!!!!!!! No... it doesn't bother me if YOU agree with ME... but I would feel realy ILL if you had said a bunch of stuff and then I had to agree with YOU... ha. (not the same thing... ha) I do not like Alex Nicol's "Dave." He's too over-the-top for me. This is going to sound ridiculous, but he reminded me of "Teddy" from One Crazy Summer. The thing is, one is overcooked for humor sake whereas the other is meant to be serious. Movieman and I discussed this a while ago on another thread. I believe he also asked the question if a villain makes or breaks a western and I have found this to be true with me. One of the aspects I most like about westerns are the villains. I don't think any genre (other than superheroes) does villainy better than westerns. Ugh... NOW I feel ill... ha. But it is true... I do think there is something to be said about the effect a villian can play in the "make or break" of a story. (if not the "villian", then at least the "conflict" in the story) . How big the obstacle (or how rotten the person) is that has to be overcome really impacts how GOOD it feels to watch the whole process of "overcoming" it all. And w/ regard to "villainy" being so well handled in Westerns in general... I think it all goes back to that whole BLACK/WHITE aspect that I find so appealing to so many westerns and western characters. It is FUN to cheer for the "good guy" but it is also just as much fun to "hate the bad guy"... and it is also fun to see a bad guy get his come-uppance. A LOT of "classic" westerns are VERY reliable in this aspect (most of the time anyway). We'll have to await someone like Mad Hat for that Where HAS that Mad Hat gotten to??? We may have to go up on the cliff and send him smoke signals... Message was edited by: rohanaka

Hello there, Mr. Movieman... Kennedy and Steward built a respect for each other. It really started out of Dave's bad behavior. It was one thing they could agree on. So when Kennedy worked his way out Stewart became the defacto son. THAT is a great point. Crisp's character seemed to have a problem w/ understanding what it meant to really TRUST anyone because he seemed to be LOUSY at picking the people he trusted (all except for Aline and Stewart)... She stood by him all those years... even if from a LONG distance across the way at her own ranch... and Stewart was the first man to ever come along that had the REAL qualities he never was able to find in Kennedy or his son. It took all that tragedy and mayhem (and as the Grey Guy mentioned.. as he was losing his sight) for him to finally see things for the way they are.. Good performances, nice location shooting. Then there is the gun shot to the hand Ha... Chris... I always love your three point descriptions at the end of your comments. You need to get a job writing those little extra tag lines that get added on to movie posters... ha. Yours are always entertaining AND usually more accurate than a lot of the ones I've read on many of the modern movie posters too. :-)

the main conflict to me seemed to be between Kennedy and the old man, with Stewart's character being almost over-hyped. He was built up in Crisp's mind as the stranger come to wreak havoc with his life and it just never seemed like we even needed Jimmy's character or he was reduced to a catalyst That is a good way to describe Stewart's part. To me it was like he was the "beginning"... sort of a way to set up the REAL story and introduce the other characters... and then he kept bouncing around throughout the story to act.. as you say... a catalyst for a lot of the action and to offer a chance for everyone to step up and show what their characters were all about... and then in the end.... he acts as the "closure" (more or less) for all the conflict. But honestly... most of the story really doesn't seem to be centered around him.. at least not as much as it seems to just be taking place... around him. (not the same thing)

Kennedy plays a somewhat similar character to Stewart's in BEND OF THE RIVER, and I feel the relationship is much more interesting and better developed Though I am NO expert on Anthony Mann... Bend of the River may be my favorite Mann Western. And the reason for that is likely because.... besides the fact that I just like the story better, it's also probably due in part to the fact that all the stuff that I think is "wrong" about TMFL seems to be "right"in BOTR. The characters and their motivations seem to be more realistic and I also just think the story flows better. (At least that is how it seems in my mind... I have not seen that one in a while...) And I agree w/ you completely about Kennedy's character... you just get a better "grasp" of who he really is in that one... Though going back to TMFL...I thought Kennedy did a pretty good job overall. And at least for me, he seemed like the better written and easier to "grasp" of the two "bad guys" in this story. His character was far better explained by the story and the action.... he just seemed a lot more "real".

I guess I do deserve to be stood up Or was that STRUNG up?????? HA!!!! I will be waiting... with the rope and the gun....

think we've milked this for all it's worth. Maybe so... but wow, folks........ at the risk of being accused of folllowing the herd here... I have really enjoyed all the cow humor. I really like how you some of you jumped on in and took the bull by the horns....

Hello there, my fellow Enforcer!! ha. Shiftless is saying now that WE kept HIM waiting in the cooler I'm not buying it... he had his chance WAY back about a gazillion YEARS ago when I first brought this one up for a ramble and he NEVER showed up.... he will have to do some fancy shootin' to talk his way out of that! I wonder if this movie suffered from an overabundance of characters, causing few of them to be well delineated I think you may be on to something. But that is not necessarily an excuse because I have seen films where there were a lot of characters and it still seemed to "click". (Rio Bravo, Rio Grande, Rio anything... ha.) Or even perhaps more recently Silverado. (Hey Chris... how'd you like me getting THAT one mentioned in here ...ha) And you are right about O'Donnell's character too.. just not enough "substance". I think it was all on the writer's hands... or maybe in Mann's... and there was just too much focus on the action itself and not enough on developing some of the characters while the action was going on.... But what do I know?? I am not a filmmaker by any stretch of the imagination. Ha. I guess that is why they MAKE the movies... and I just sit and watch them... I will say, though, that the part you screen-capped with the hand---that's one of the most disturbingly violent and sadistic things I've ever seen in movies. I know, I'm a wimp because that's probably tame compared to what they show today. It's more than enough for me Ha.... If you are a wimp I must be too... I got that image from youtube (no small task, by the way for this technophobic wretch) and I was "squeamish" just thinking about what comes next after that little preview in the trailier. I think that is one of the best "reactions" I have seen from Stewart ever, by the way. TOTALLY believable. (which I think is one of the main reasons it is so hard to watch) They don't actually SHOW it (like they would now days) so you are left to his reaction to get the full impact of the moment....

I've been locked away in a jail, waiting for you to bail me out! Excuses, excuses.... now that you've been SPRUNG... you'd best get to ramblin on Laramie..... because HONDO is looming in the distance after this one my friend... and who know's HOW many more to go as well.... NO rest for you, Mr. Grey. Don't tell me he was captured and is working at the "Barb" ranch as a kilt-wearin' stud. I'd rather be hanged. HA!!!!! Well that would be the OTHER "Barb" ranch now wouldn't it.... ha. She will have to chime in on that one... ha. So.... now that I've given you a little rope here in my opening ramble.... DON'T you go and hang yourself w/ it (that would be my job!) I will look forward to hearing your "manly man' ramble on Mann. So get busy, Grey Dude.

Oh my gosh, my golly... Jackie!! Ha!! With you and April as my fellow Enforcers... those two desperados don't stand a chance.... ha. I have to say about TMFL..... I am looking forward to hearing the "manly man' perspective on MANN....... ha. From my limited experience w/ Mann... this is the pattern I am seeing in his films by the way: He has some interesting characters, and what COULD be a really strong story (but for some reason still needed a bit more developing for my taste) and a lot of action and suspense. Oh... and throw in a little psychological intrigue as well just to keep it all interesting.. ha) I can't honestly say that this film would be among my most favorite westerns ever, but I really enjoyed it a lot for a lot of different reason. The story was pretty good.... but I just had a few issues w/ some of the characters and their motivations. Still... it had some good twists and turns (like in the relationship between Crisp and our dear Aline MacMahan.) And I think overall... this was a good effort on Stewart's part. I also liked Wallace Ford's character in this one as well. I wish he'd had a little bit more time on screen. Oh... and I loved slimy old Jack Elam... what a piece of work. (ha) And I also thought the scenery was terrific in this film as well . VERY stark yet beautiful. I think overall it is a good western, but if I have any REAL problems w/ it... I guess it would be that I mostly just got hung up on the son.... what a ridiculous character. He was just too "unreal". But maybe it is because I wanted him to have more lines so we could get a chance to see him be really awful and not just show up.... beat up and/or shoot somebody.... and disappear again.His character was just too underdeveloped to be beleivable. His best scene was his last one up on that cliff w/ the fire and the wagon full of guns... I just did not find him all that believable or menacing of a bad guy (despite all his HORRIFIC acts of violence... ) And then maybe the other critiscim I had was that whole.... "I had a dream".... thing from the father. That was a bit "far fetched" for a rugged western like this one as well... But again.. overall.... I think this one has a lot of fine moments.

Meanwhile back at the ranch......... That would be the BARB ranch by the way (or maybe better still it was the Half Moon Ranch) .... a LONG over due ramble sat alone in the dust. But along came a Quiet Gal... a ramlbin' gal.... A gal who was friendly to everyone.... and OH so patient. But.... still... a gal who had had enough.... She was a Gal in search of a slacker.... someone who needed to be taught a lesson. There?s a code in the old west and this shiftless outlaw had broken that code.... and now his time had run out. That Shiftless Grimes had spent too many months (or maybe even YEARS) with his false promises of a ramble on The Man from Laramie. And he wasn't alone. He and his accomplice, Mad Hat Molo had both been shirking their duty... and now... they were about to pay up. For a long time.... the threat of an ice cold rope had shadowed their every footstep.... but the Quiet Gal decided a simple Hangin' was just too good for these two outlaws... so BEFORE the hangin' she would also teach them a little respect... Because you see... this Quiet Gal not only carried a rope... she also carried her trusty Peacemaker... AND.... THIS would now be the fate of old Shiftless and Mad Hat should they fail any further in their sworn promise to ramble.... . :p :p

I think she was married to Elmer Yes... the famous GLUE spokesman... http://www.elmers.com/funFacts/index.asp Those two were a Hollywood dream couple so little Beauregard must have grown up in the lap of luxury to be sure. :-)

Darn! Now what I'm to say after watching Hondo? WHAT???? What ARE you going to say after watching Hondo??????? Indeed!!! NOW I am on the edge of my seat for sure. I am an old woman... my heart can't take this sort of suspense... And PS.. I LOVE Hondo, by the way. Oh for pity sake.. you w/ your biggest collection of UNwatched John Wayne movies in the free world... Ha. Get thee to your DVD player forthwith and watch this movie, Grey Dude. Or to heck w/ the rope.... we'll turn the DOG loose on you.

Hi folks.. don't want to interupt... just wanted to say a quick thanks for the reminders for all the Ford stuff tonight. I am not able to ramble just now... but wanted to say I appreciate it all very much. I will chat w/ you all later. Take care.

Hey there Jackie.... I agree w/ you about Daniell's character.. (he had a "degree" of GREY that was not the same as GRAY'S... ha. And it worked for me too, because I think he really had an "end justifying the means" sort of mindset (though obviously misguided) whereas old Cabman... was just... MEAN and spiteful and I have to say again.. downright evil. (NO "grey" in THIS "Mr Gray" whatsoever) ha. And I always like it when there are movies where sometimes not ALL the "bad guys" are completely bad... there is often a "layering".. And sometimes it can take a while to see if a "bad guy is even really as bad as he seems (hey..our beloved BEN in Shane could be an example of THAT... how do you like me getting THAT Ben reference in for you!! ha) Anyway... Old Doc MacFarlane was a "less than reputable guy" but again... I think he saw himself as working for the greater good.... (I think he REALLY wanted that sweet little girl to walk. Yes... in part for his own ego.. but also because he truly had come to care about the outcome of the surgery for HER... not just for himself) so I guess he gets some points for THAT anyway.... ha. OH.. and I had to go look up Daniell to place him in some of his other roles as he was not an actor I am all that familiar w/ (though his face did ring a bell) After I did.... I had a better reference w/ regard to April's comment about him having a girl who actually LIKED him in this one... And PS... you are not WEIRD... ha. But he did seem to make a career out of playing less than WONDERFUL sorts of guys... ha. Somehow, I think he must have just been good at it. Ha. :-)

Hiya April... A few more words about The Body Snatcher if I may.... Wasn't Henry Daniel great, too? I really love seeing him in a more developed character. Still a kind of bad guy but you see his human side too (and he actually has a girlfriend, ha! Who likes him even! Ha haa!) I just relish his scenes with Boris, they are amazing, just amazing. And the poor little street singer, oh, I just cry to hear her sing even before anything happens---the way she sang sounded so mournful and sorrowful, you just knew something awful was going to happen... You are right on about Daniel. (though I can't place him in anything else at the moment) He DID have a lovely "girlfriend/wife" who seemed to genuinely care about what happened to him. And he DID do a great job of playing the poor beleaguered (yet just BARELY better than Gray) guy... But I have to comment again on Karloff. I don't think I have EVER seen him so CONVINCINGLY evil. I know... he has played a LOT Of "bad guys" and "monsters" in a LOT of other films... but OH MY GOLLY.... what a menace. What a MEAN and just down right pathological sort of ghoulish low life thug. He was a guy that took just a LITTLE TOO MUCH pride in his "work" for sure. (Ha.. but then again... I guess... so was Daniel if you think about it... but only for a different reason). OH and regarding the victims.... you can always tell how MUCH I am enjoying almost any movie by the way I start talking to the characters while they are on TV... HA!. (mini spoiler) When that sweet little singer starts to walk past the house... and old Mr. Gray is looking at her.. you can see the "lightbulb" moment happening on his face. And then... OH MY GOLLY... I started shouting ... "RUN!! Run for you life..." Of course she couldn't hear me... she was too busy singing. Ha! And then when JOSEPH (played quite nicely by Bela Lugosi, by the way) shows up later on and starts demanding MONEY... and Gray seems to be open to the whole idea of taking him on as a partner and offering him a drink and handing him cash... while he is ALSO at the same time sitting there telling him how he had previously "taken care of" men who had tried to take money from him in the past... OH MY GOSH!! I started yelling again..."Joseph... you're an IDIOT!!! Get out now while you still can!." But again... he wasn't listening either... (he was probably too busy thinking about all that money.. HA!) And then... when Fettes decides to go to the cemetery w/ MacFarlane.... close to the end of the movie... well... by then I was throwing my sofa pillow at the tv set... And then when all the "stuff" started happening during the ride back home and you could tell old MacFarlane was ?losing it?.... I started thinking.... "GET OUT Fettes?. It?s a nice night for a WALK!!" Ha.. at least THAT all turned out ok (for Fettes anyway) I looked up the short story by Stevenson after watching this.. and it is WAY different (in almost EVERY respect) from the film. But I like the FILM so much better. The characters are WAY more developed and you get a better feeling for the motivation behind much of what they do... AND.... Fettes is a MUCH better sort of fellow w/ a more likeable "future" in this movie than he is in the short story. For anyone who wants to compare... here is a link. It is a short (but fun) read... but again... this is one time where I like the movie better... http://gaslight.mtroyal.ca/body.htm And PS... I want to thank you for posting that link to The Lost Moment... I finished watching it... and WOW... I just LOVED it. What a WONDERFUL story... very "captivating". Once I started watching it... I had to keep hitting the next part and continue on... I did not have it in me to walk away and come back later. I wanted to see what was going to happen next. And I really enjoyed Agnes Moorehead (she is ALWAYS good) And boy oh boy... that Susan Hayward... HOW GORGEOUS.... and "creepy" too (at least there for a while) all at the same time. And I am not much of a Cummings fan either... but I thought he did a VERY fine job in this one. Boy... this watching movies on the internet is starting to turn into a habit... (but I'm liking it!) ha.

Wow Ms. Cutter... sounds like you had a terrific afternoon. Thanks very much for sharing w/ us. It's the next best thing to being there. :-)