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I'll try, Mr. Ford, but I'd sure rather fall off a doggoned horse or come flat-out down one of them hills than say this here dialogue. You jes' point out the hill you want me to come off, an' let some other actor say them words." Ford loved it. "Here's my Tyree." Aw man... How loveable is THAT???? :-) (or should I say "Aw Shucks") :-)

I have to post this clip from My Darling Clementine, partly because of Vic's performance, and partly because it is such a damn great clip in general, every bit of is superb Aw kid, that is one of my most favorite parts of the whole doggone movie... I LOVE the way that whole scene plays out... (and ps.... the next best part after Victor is getting to hear Fonda say "THEEater"... that is how my old grandfolks used to talk.. I love that bit) :-)

Wow April.... what a great tribute to our beloved BEN!! (PS... Wendy.. you're gonna love it) My favorite part.... "IF I COULDN'T REMEMBER MY LINES, I JUST SAID WHAT I THOUGHT FIT THE SCENE. DIRECTORS SOON LEARNED THAT'S HOW I DID IT! AND IT WORKED OUT OK FOR EVERYONE." THE COWBOY STARS STARTED AD-LIBBING TOO! "JOHN WAYNE SAID, "IT WORKS FOR BEN! AND IT'LL WORK OR ME!" Can't you just hear him saying that w/ his great "simple cowboy" voice. (I know I use this alot w/ him but it is just so doggone "Aw shucks, ma'am" . :-)

And when I am done w/ that Shiftless one... I am goin' after the Mad Hat too!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!

Hiya Ms Cutter... Speaking only for myself... I am sure it would be A-OK for you to respond back to old Shiftless here. He needs a good "roughing up" before I bring out the frozen rope I have in cold storage... fire when ready little lady. (or at least fire when the board will let you post.... this is getting a bit... ridiculous!) :-)

Here is the movie the way I saw it (i.e. Starring Ben Johnson with a few other performers) It's all in the perspective.... ha. :-)

The Train Robbers Hiya Jackie.... that is one that I (for some reason) have never bothered to notice. It has been on before and I just seem willing to pass it by (I am not a bank robbery/ train robbery/ etc etc kinda fan....) so I just have never checked it out. Sounds like it might be good for a pass the time sort of thing.... but not a top choice. Maybe others who have seen it will chime in. Ann Marg-rock..... (sorry. I always want to slip into Flintstones-speak when I think of her) HA!!! I do the same thing w/ Cary Granite.. I mean Grant... ha.

Oh wow... Mr. In Hollywood... What a great collection of posters. Very moving. (That YMCA one..."For your boy". Oh my) I am happy to see the WW1 museum mentioned. It is among Kansas City's finest attractions.(at least for me anyway) I hope TCM will showcase it a bit while Mr. O and Mr. Paul are chatting. The Museum itself is fairly new, but there is a monument that has been there (a huge tower w/ an "eternal" flame) that has been around since the1920's. And all of this sits in a big park right next door to Union Station. Every Memorial Day Weekend there is a huge concert and fireworks show called "Celebration at the Station and it pays tribute to our nation and soldiers from every era and every branch of service. It is "Rohanaka" family tradition around here. We rarely miss it. (PS... I will be the one in the red shirt) :-) If I may... here is a link for those who are interested in reading more about the museum (there is even mention of the TCM event on there as well) : http://www.theworldwar.org/s/110/index.aspx Thanks again for the great artwork. You always have the best posters. And these are first rate.

Our Lady of the Ropes! Ha... we aim to please, young'un. :-) So what was your ultimate opinion of The Furies? Don't worry if you can only say it was "awful", lol! No.... I won't say that... I actually liked it... Eventually. Ha. I was really put off by what seemed like a bit of "over acting" at the beginning... but after a while... the characters seemed to get a little more "real'... and then... *The Evil Almost Step Mother* showed up. And boy howdy did things start to get more interesting. The entire story took a TURN at that point for me. I am not quite ready for a full fledged ramble on this one... AND I have a date w/ a rope... and a little something called... The Man From Laramie over in westerns in the next day or so... (PS.. a certain GREY person and his Mad Hat friend had best be prepared...ha) But after that.... I may get FURY-ous. Ha. (so many movies... so little time.) :-) My favorite of his performances is as Jimmy's ex-army pal turned police detective in Rear Window He did seem familiar to me... Maybe that is where I am remembering him from ... but I did not focus AS much on him as I should have because.... I kept noticing your beloved Gilberto!!! (woo hoo) :-)

Some people just need a frozen rope. NO Problem, little lady. Here at "Frozen Ropes R Us" your wish is my command. :-) Even though the temps are getting warmer, as you can see... I have found us a supplier to keep the ropes on ice. I wanted to be sure we had a CONSTANT and ready supply for the summer months. HA!

I was impressed with his portrayal of Stanwyck's paramour in "The Furies" Finally..... an actor I can comment on!!! ha. (But you folks are supplying me w/ a lot of INSIGHT into some of my lesser known's lately... it has been a fun read.) Hi Feaito.... I don't know anything about any of his other roles, but I really like Wendell Corey in the Furies as well... it took me a while to warm up to that whole MOVIE though... (at least until the almost-stepmother showed up) but even so... I really thought HE did a really good job in this one. Seemingly slimly meets ultimately savvy... he was a sort of "surprise" character for me.

Congrats on the big 7000, Mr. Grey!! You keep up all this fine ramblin.... and my frozen rope and I will have to retire. (But then again.... there's always Mad Hat Molo....) Check out THIS frosty beauty: PS: did you know that ?frozen rope? is a BASEBALL SLANG for a hard line drive, Mister Sportsman??? (I just found that out when I googled my photo... ha..) Nice job of ramblin around these last few weeks (or is it MONTHS now?) sir. You've really been hitting them out of the park lately. Keep up the good work. :-)

I must remember in my writing NOT to re-hash a plot NO!!! Say it aint so.... I LOVE the way you take a plot and interweave it with your thoughts and comments... THAT is what makes it so fun to read!!!! :-) Carry On, young'un.

Hello Miss Maven..... mighty fine ramblin'. I like your story synopsis too. (I think you should write some of the ones for the TCM database.... your's are VERY entertaining!) Yeech. She's creepy, insidious and deadly. And I despised her Now don't hold back.... tell us how you REALLY feel. ha. Wasn't this just a FUN movie though.... She was just SO creepy and insidious... and deadly..... that it was FUN to despise her. :-) PS.... April.... My only wish (besides a better looking print) is that Jerome Cowan had more screen time. I'm not as smitten as Jackie but I do love his knowing smirk and the way he had EVERYONE'S number, not just Evelyn's. I totally agree....He needed a bigger part. I kept waiting for him to come back somewhere in the middle and say something witty now and then... but he did at least make good use of the time he was there. Very entertaining character. :-)

I guess Stubborn.

What are the emotional moments for you in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon? Who are the good characters? My favorite characters in the film are the same as Jackie's: the Allshards. And John Wayne's "Nathan Brittles" is terrific, too. I think SWAYR is a lot more "nostalgic" than the other two.... and that is a part of the emotion for me. In a lot of ways it is about "looking back" while you are moving forward. As far as characters go.... I like the Allshards too... specifically.... "Old Iron Pants"... ha. I loved the "playfullness" between husband and wife and the way she LOVED the cavalry (and cavalry life) as much as her husband. And I think the Duke carries off the "old guy who still has a LOT to do before he is done" part really well. I LOVED the way he still loved (and clung to) his wife long since she'd been gone (but not in a "pathetic" way.... more of a loving and respectful way) I also liked the "old Indian guy".... (can't recall his name) It was a small role... but I liked how his character fit into the story. And what he had to say about how the younger men no longer respected the ways of the older men.... which was a perfect contrast to the cavalry guys.... they were ALL about respect Oh and then... there's our BELOVED Ben... :-) But I'm actually far more interested inThursday than Nathan. Oh I agree... he has a LOT more "layers" to him... but I am just saying that the other film is NOT as "unintersting" as you were thinking... It may just be more "sentimental" than you prefer. PS... Jackie... glad to hear your teeth are not bugging you too much... I have only had a couple of root canals... but I won't give you my horror story tonight... let's just say.... NOT among my favorite memories... ha. Calling it a night too... Happy trails folks. :-) Message was edited by: rohanaka

Wow... you folks have all put me to shame w/ this ramble. The way you all have dug in deep and found all these interesting "extras" has just been terrific. Just a few thoughts.... Ms. Cutter said: Thursday ends up at this "tenpenny outpost" determined to ride the glory path out never realizing that the Western frontier calls for waging different way, never realizing that actually understanding the enemy you are fighting is key to winning. Because where Thursday comes from, men like him know best and they refuse to listen to those who might be able to help them not be their own worst enemies. I think for him he was about proving his glory. In his mind.... he was already "glorious". He was bound and determined that EVERYONE else was going to see him that way too. And it REALLY galled him that he had to "prove" it. I think he expected everyone else to just automatically "get" that he was as wonderful as he thought he was... and when that did not happen... he'd jump in with a dig or a cutting remark... or a command that called attention to his "superior" leadership abilities. If people weren't going to GIVE him the glory he thought he deserved.... he was going to claim it for himself. And you are right.. he was absolutely clueless about the different environment he was now in calling for different "rules" of engagement. Part of the "glory" he felt was his due that ALL rules were his for the choosing and that it was EVERYONE else who had to adapt to his way of thinking.... even the Indians. Jackie said: It must be unbearablefor Thursday to be confronted with a reminder of his past glory, that he should have sunk as low as Sam. It also is probably galling to see someone again who you have done dirt to. Frank Grimes said: That's a terrific point. I think Thursday's seeing Collingwood makes him feel very uncomfortable. He knows Collingwood knows him and now they are in the same "place." And I think for the reasons you both bring up... this is why he goes so "out of his way" to PUT him in his place". He makes it clear from the get go (with all of them really... but in a particularly cold way to Collingwood) that he is over them all but also "ABOVE them all" as well. And Lest We Lynn is going to kill me for this, but She Wore a Yellow Ribbon bored me I have to confess that among the three cavalry films it is my 3rd favorite... but it is a lot better movie thanyou may be giving it credit for... There are some VERY emotional moments in this story and there are some really good characters too... I think you are just being..... ornery. Miss G says: Thursday was the one who was impacted the most by his wife's passing, maybe subconsciously. He's not a reflective man so I don't see him mourning her consciously, but she was his "softer" side I bet, I think. Philadelphia doesn't act like she remembers her mother as clearly. I get the feeling she'd been dead a while. Do you or anyone else remember better? I think you are right about him being the most "impacted". He likely lost his biggest "fan" (outside of himself....ha) She was likely a woman who hung on his every word and perfectly "adorned" his arm. And if you notice.... I think Philadelphia had finally reached the age where she was finally able to fill her mothers shoes in that regard.... but I also think she was raised in a "boarding school" setting or by some other family member so perhaps she wasn't as "blind" to her father's flaws as she might have been if her mother had been there to raise her that way. At any rate, I feel like or just imagine that Philadelphia has had the "looking after" of her father for a while. She seems to know exactly how he'd want things done and arranged. Now see, I got a different take on that.... I think somewhere (maybe in the stagecoach) mention is made of how she'd been away from him (or he from her) for a while. And I think her wanting to make everything "perfect" for him in his new home was her first big chance to play "grownup". If you notice... she did not know the etiquette about the officers coming to leave their cards, etc... she was just starting to learn what it means to "keep house" for a man. That was my take on it anyway.... And this might account for some of the reason she was so "independent" in her thinking when her father goes to the ORourke house and tries to bully everyone around. Again.. I might be off... but this is the impression I got... Kathy, I think Lynn is going to need that rope... There is a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG line of people who are going to be borrowing it I am afraid. THE GREY GUY Says: And then there's the Spring Gobbler's mom. Hopefully someone takes her out to eat so they know what real food tastes like. HA!!!!! ; Take THAT!!!!! "Fresh guy"? Jackie.. if it is the GREY GUY ... we are fresh out of FRESH.... because he is just plain ROTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS... little Miss Favell.... a DOUBLE root canal.... you poor thing!! Just for you: Except for the awful She Wore a Yellow Ribbon..... Oh no... say it isn't so! Step away from the Grey... don't tell me he is starting to infect your brain????? Perish the thought.

tell me more about Ralphie boy. I feel the wife was the too naive one until too late. Well... I guess to be fair... they both were. But HE really did seem "clueless" for someone who was supposed to be so "in tune' with women. Possible Spoiler issues: First of all.... it WAS naive for him to spend SO much time alone with that model... both IN "close quarters" and OUT of them (like the swimming and the going to town, etc) and for just the reasons I mentioned earlier (about not setting yourself up to be misunderstood and gossiped about) If they had not been alone together so often... it would not have been so likely to be misconstrued. And yes... I blame his wife for all that as well. Everyone was above board and trustworthy, so I just don't think it ever entered their mind to worry about it... but I say again... naive.They BOTH should not have been so surprised at what ended up happening, because it was only a matter of time before SOME mean spirited person said SOMETHING.... (because THAT is what gossips do) They should have NEVER allowed themselves to be in an arrangement that would so easily be able to be misinterpreted by people who *A)* did NOT know them so well... or ** (like in Evelyn's case) who could purposely "twist" it into something "dishonest" looking. It is that whole "make sure you avoid the appearance of evil" thing that I mentioned. The more time he spent alone w/ his model (a coworker and friend) the less time he spent alone with his wife. And a married man allowing himself to be in THAT sort of situation so frequently is just setting himself (and everyone else) up for trouble... even if everyone and everything is honest and innocent. Evelyn was only able to accomplish what she did because he (and the wife and model) had become so comfortable with this sort of arrangement that they failed to see what it COULD look like to those less loving than the immediate family members. And that is what allowed those seeds of doubt to be planted and then things just went downhill for everyone (except Evelyn) after that. And as far as Evelyn was concerned, the first time old Ralphie boy has any REAL "interaction" with her.... he came off more or less like a 'father" figure... rescuing her from the scary "leaf shadows" outside her window. And in his mind, he kept on with that mental picture of her and viewed her like some poor scared child who just needed to build up her confidence and then everything would be "ok". He seemed to have a way of "boxing women into preconceived molds". They all saw it as a "gift" or a "knack"... but it made him a bit "arrogant" as a result (because he truly believed in his own "gift"). ... and he really had NO understanding of how WRONG about her he really was.until it was almost too late. And his choosing her clothes for her was WAY out of line... no matter how "innocent" his intentions. Even though the other women seemed to encourage it.. and even though he made some sort of mention about how he'd helped his daughter with her hair ribbons with pretty much the same technique he should have REALIZED that this woman was NOT a close relative and his efforts to help her relax and build up her confidence were like throwing gasoline on a forest fire. And.... ps... he may have viewed her like a sort of daughter that first night in her room.... but the way he drew her on that lampshade was ANYTHING but "daughterly". He was just ridiculously "obtuse" in not recognizing the difference between the woman in the rich dark sultry gown and his sweet little blonde hair daughter. I think he just saw himself as a "what women need" kinda fix it guy. Which I guess is ok if everyone understands their ROLES in that sort of scenario.... but NOT ok if they don't. So he was stupidly naive in assuming Evelyn (a woman w/ KNOWN mental problems) would fit into the pretty little mold he was making for her. He struck me as a being a bit "obtuse" too.... when he started to see how things were getting said and done w/regard to the model... and the way that all turned out... he immediatly went from spending all his time with ONE woman (who was not his wife) to spending even MORE time with ANOTHER woman (who was also not his wife). He KNEW his marriage had just suffered a direct blow... and he needed to try and fix the issues with his wife at that point instead of continuing to let things get even further out of hand. And the wife WAS naive too... but she was also just as "stupid". Instead of first resisting and then finally giving in to the innuendo and gossip, she SHOULD have gone to her husband the minute things started to "appear" that way to others and fix the problem. If she had just told them both that things were getting said and that they needed to resolve the issues so that the gossip could be "nipped" in the bud, it might have all played out differently. But instead, she tried to 'spare" them from it... and it ended up almost costing her her marriage. Again... it all goes back to what I was saying before... if they had not allowed that situation to be set up like that in the first place.... NONE of that stuff would have ever happened.... (but then of course... the movie would have been boring.... ha) Ok.... I know... I am really "pounding" on this issue.. sorry. And I suppose I sound like I am blaming THEM... when the truth is.. it was EVELYN who abused their trust and stirred up all the strife... But I really think they are at least a little at fault because they willingly let her chip away at the foundations of their marriage by foolishly giving her the tools to do it with. So in a way... they were at least partly to blame for the mess that was made when things began to fall apart. Hope this all made some sort of sense.... I may be off a bit.... but it all seemed this way to me. PS......... I'm loving my Clark in The Hucksters right now. What hunny bunch OH! April.. I missed the beginning of that movie... but I got to watch most of it... LOVED it all to pieces!!! :-) Message was edited by: rohanaka

Aunt Martha Ha.... Miss B.... I think you are being too kind to me... But I have to say.... that Aunt Martha was just such a surprise. She seemed so innocuous. Maybe that is why Evelyn underestimated her too. I still want to chat about the whole "dopey naivety" of the husband at some point... ha But will save that for later. PS... April, re: the diary... I thought for SURE that would come up sooner... like you did.... (the housekeeper maybe finding it for example) but it was not to be. There certainly were some interesting twists and turns in this one. Thanks ladies... I will look forward to hearing more from both of you on your thoughts on this one. (And PS.. Miss Maven... you too)

would you have been fooled by Evelyn? My first and quickest answer would be no. But.... my completely HONEST answer would be... I hope not. Because................... In real life.... "shadowy or duplicitous people" don't come with their own foreshadowing mood music.... ha! :-) All kidding aside... I don't honestly know if I would have been completely "unfooled" by her at first...I'd like to think I would not. But I feel certain as things progressed... if I had been in that household... ONE THING that I would NOT have fallen prey to was her "suggestions". Buying in to all the half truth and innuendo about people I know and care about would not be something I would do and I say that because I am a very "let's go talk to them and get the whole story" sort of person. I like to look at what a person actually does or says instead of what someone told me they did or said. Once I saw that there was a "silent" smear campaign going on against people I know and trust (especially by someone I KNEW was not mentally well) I don't think I'd have been taken in. (at least... I hope not anyway) First of all... if my husband were an artist and he had a beautiful model working for him like that... it would NOT have been under THOSE sort of conditions.... because the best way to avoid vicious gossip and rumor is to not give the "appearance" of evil.(Especially if that person lived under my roof) Even if I had NO worry at all and I totally believed and trusted in my husband (as this wife did) he'd have had that studio of his set up in a corner of the living room.... out in the open... for all the world to see. Just because +I+ know and trust that someone is honest doesn't mean the whole world does.... and there are too many meanspirited and gossipy people in the world... and some of them don't even NEED a reason to be that way. So.. I have always believed that "nothing to hide equals nothing to fear" where gossippy subjects are concerned. Because lies are only able to fool someone if they are able to be believed. If there is a "hint" that it might be true... then the seeds of doubt are able to take root. And THAT was the real power Evelyn seemed to have over everyone. She used implication and false worry to take in unsuspecting people. By her false accusations she was able to start a smokeless wildfire of doubt and speculation. People who start those sorts of wildfires rely on TWO things.... A) that someone will buy into the half truth they are suggesting... and that after buying "into" it.... they will pass it along and help infect others as well. And did you notice she preyed on the most innocent (or at least the "easiest") victims first? SPOILER She FIRST took in poor Dan... who LOVED her. HE would never be suspicious because he was blinded by his care and concern for her both as a doctor and as her beloved betrothed. And not only that... she "covered" her tracks with him by making it LOOK like she was being open about how deceptive she could be (w/ the diary). (Now THAT was quite trick) Little did he know there was a WHOLE OTHER LAYER to her deceit that he knew nothing about. Her next victim.... a sweet little innocent child. Who was also fascinated with her beauty and who only wanted to enjoy her pretty company and her pretty music. Her third victim..... the handy man and the housekeeper.... (ESPECIALLY the housekeeper) who LOVED the sweet little innocent child and only wanted to protect her. And so it went, on and on. Until she finally got her REAL target... the one who stood in her way the most: The Wife. But what she underestimated was... this family's TRUE bonds of love and trust in one another. Her bonds of falsehood and deceit held only as much sway on them as they ALLOWED her to have. And once she was finally exposed in the broad light of day.... her schemes had no more lasting effect. At least on everyone except... that first victim of hers. He had one thing going against him that the others didn't have: Genuine love for her. He was never really able to see her fully "exposed" like they did because she'd hidden her motives "in plain site' with him. And that was the reason he was able to be fooled so completely where the others were not. (and I also imagine if her parents had not "rescued her" that Lee would have suffered the same.... because she was so young.... but thankfully she was spared) And I find it really interesting that the one who ended up "saving the day" was... the Aunt. I think she alone possessed the "power" to truly stand up to the "beast"(ha) because she had fought it once before... in the form of her own brother. She KNEW the kind of hold someone like Evelyn could have on other people and their sympathies. And she never really bought into all the half truths and outright lies that were starting to swirl around that house. She kept Evelyn in the right perspective more or less throughout.... Yes.. she saw her as a pitiful person who was truly ill. And she DID have sympathy for her (at least for most of the film) and hoped for the best for a recovery for her.... but she did NOT underestimate her once the truth was out about all the things she'd done. She knew what sort of misery a "future" of having this woman in her family would bring... and she acted on the natural impulse to spare her loved ones from the continuing pain and suffering of having to endure this sort of evil insanity for the rest of their lives. She got rid of it... and in a very shocking way, I might add. I say again.. I was NOT prepared for that ending... I had it all worked out a COMPLETELY different way... Did I mention.... Wow?????? Message was edited by: rohanaka

No...that would be sawdust... and he likes it.

Wait till you see 11. Wow. I finally finished this off last night. I was NOT prepared for THAT ending, by the way. (did I mention wow???) Thanks ladies for bringing this one up.... Miss Maven.... it is a must see. (Oh yeah... and PS.... Wow.)

I'm up to part 6...... Oh my golly.

Wow ladies.. I just watched parts one and two... and I am hooked!!! I will come back when I am a little less "bleary eyed" and watch the remaining parts. I am just getting a feel for some of the characters and their personalities.... Picture me.... on the edge of my seat.... :-)

Wow, what a great movie. I've seen it so many times, but I still like to watch it again me too. :-)