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52 ...I'm almost there If it makes you feel any better, Chris... the QT is already PAST that... (he'll be 54 next month) ha. There is ALWAYS someone older.. if you know where to look. :-) Fortunately for me... that's under my own roof! Ha) Message was edited by: rohanaka

I?ll just post links I bet that will be an interesting read... although (ha) I am already HATING the title.. ha. (I would want it to say... did they SHARE the same shadow) ... But I will try to keep an open mind.

I?ll just sit back now and wait for somebody to make fun of something related to Gary; NO WAY... and if they do... We'll just send the DUKE over to stare them down and set them straight... ha. PS.. April...I Iove that scene... and you are right... that guy does almost clobber himself w/ that post... I wonder if that was on purpose or just one of those happy accident's they decided to leave in. And PSS.. It IS hard to catch certain things on a capture... I had as hard a time trying to get John T's embarrased little shrug... but still a VERY funny moment.

A sequal to Dark Zombies... STUDIO: Turner Productions, Inc. YEAR: 2009 TITLE: BESEIGED (the Saga Continues) Director: Edward D. Wood CAST: the same as Dark Zombies... (but with numerous additions to the ever expanding cast) Story: Same old story, over and over...and over.

One mistake I saw, if you can count it, is Harry Carey, Jr. is listed in the credits but I coun'ldn't find him. Turns out his scenes were deleted. Whoa Chris... in the flurry of activity, I almost missed this... I wonder where he would have fit into the story...

no thank you

Now where did I put that wrench.... and my rope....

And there are SOME people who wouldn't know how to show respect even if they WERE hog tied...AND horsewhipped ha. (but I am NOT talking about you at the moment, young'un...) :-)

Another thing about the Duke and his walk.... it commanded respect because it deserved respect.... Any one could see that a MILE away...

You are right... you can't mistake it for anyone else's And PS... THAT's sauntering with class little lady!!!!!!! :-)

I LOVED Reginald Owen, Kathy! I just thought he was hysterical from the minute I saw him....and he actually made me stop watching Frank Morgan, which is simply amazing When he first meets her in the theater... I thought at first he'd be just a "passing jerk" sort of character and that would be the end of him... but then we she meets him again on the street... I loved the way he goes from being "annoyed" by her to helping her... And the scenes at the party w/ him giving her all those little hand signals and gestures were hilarious.... I loved how he would not give Morgan any quarter in that dining room.. he was a man on a mission. I loved Morgan too, especially his very endearing and stuttery proposal.... what a sweet guy. I wasn't sure he was going to be that nice at the beginning. I wasn't either... I figured he'd be as "lecherous" as he first seemed... but I just don't think his heart was in it.. ha. I LOVED how he tells her he wants him to darn his socks and then starts talking about all the many kids he wants them to have... too sweet... I almost wished for a (brief) moment she HAD ended up w/ him... (But I got over it... Dr. Max was way too endearing.) PS... Bronxgirl... STAY.. GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO!!! I can think of a few people I could have that conversation with... ha. (I would be the one saying GO... just to clarify that.) ha. :-)

Hiya April... saunter THAT'S the word. :-)

I haven't played "Clue" since I was a child. I always wanted to be Miss Scarlet---wasn't there a Miss Scarlet? There WAS a Miss Scarlett.... it's YOU for sure, little Missy.. (I used to play this game w/ my brothers all the time... but they finally got to where they wouldn't play with me anymore because I always won... I'm not bragging...I wasn't THAT good... its just that they were WORSE... ha) And I used to love being Miss Scarlett too.. but I think by now I have passed on from my Miss Scarlett phase to my Mrs. White stage of life (I think she was the frumpy old housekeeper.. ha)

Hiya Chris... I loved what you said about their "walks"...NOT stupid at all, by the way. :-) But.. IS Duke "strutting" though, or more like "marching" sometimes??? However he is walking... it is VERY purposeful. He walks and acts with confidence at every turn. Every turn but when he is dealing with Angie She DOES have a way about her that totally trips him up... And when she kisses him for the first and second time... (you are RIGHT about the Bogie and Bacall angle) he gets TOTALLY thrown for a loop... She gives him a sultry yet almost "mocking" look as she tells him to go back to work... and then he is so dumbfounded he can only shrug in and almost goofy teenager sort of way.. It is HILARIOUS to see him so unhinged... what would draw her to a man so much older than herself I agree she IS a bit young... but at the same time... she is NOT so young, at least in the ways of the world anyway. Even though she was married... and not what one would call "loose"... she seemed to be very comfortable with "men/women" subjects and relationships Maybe just being treated nice is enough for her. I think eventually that is what happnes.. you may have something there. But at the beginning... her defenses are up and she is playing it VERY close to the vest... She just wants to stay out of trouble. But at the same time... she can't seem to help herself from toying with him... It's like that is almost part of her self defense mechanism as well. If she "plays it" over confident... she won't be so likely to get pushed around... But eventually I think she starts to see him for who he really is... and that is part of why she falls for him as well. I think it has a lot to do with his character and his rigid attitudes of right and wrong... She may not LIKE it when he "lays down the law"... but he is REAL to her... and her last man... was anything BUT that. She know that with John T... what she sees is what she gets... and that makes him very attractive to her as well. So it is likely a combination of things in the long run... When she begins to see him as more than just another judgmental hard nosed sheriff... and she admires his character and cares about what happens to him... then eventually it DOES become enough for her that he treats her nice... It's probably been a very long time since anyone has... Message was edited by: rohanaka

Hello there Mr. Grey.... You caught me. I did go back and add that little story. I meant to include it originally, but I forgot all about it when I went to post. Nothing gets by you, Hawkgirl. Whew... I thought maybe the old noggin' was not what it used to be.... oh who am I kidding.... THAT'S still true whether you edited your post or not... ha. "Hawkgirl" is more like "Blind as a Bat Girl" lately... :-) So are you going to knock me cold then toss me into your cart and then wheel me off to a frozen rope? Well... now that you mention it..... (We'll just have to wait and see how long it takes you to mosey over yonder and start to ramblin' on Rio Bravo... not to mention you need to cast your vote on John Wayne's doofy looking hat...) there is a pleasant calmness that can be felt with conversations with the elderly. This is why I enjoy talking with Lynn. Oh my... Ms Cutter.. would you like to borrow either my wrench or my rope??? (or both??) And I bet they all tell you to get lost It wouldn't be the first time that someone has done that... Ha. But all kidding aside... I think it is fun to have friends in a variety of age brackets... I have always enjoyed talking w/ folks that were both younger AND older than me... But the older I get the more of a challenge it gets to be for me to find "older than me's" Ha. The toughest part for me is the repetitiveness. I take my country grandma to the store and when I drive by certain places, she almost always says the same thing. Certain sights or words spark an exact response. Now this could be just how my grandma has always been. I'm not sure. But I guess this could be true for all of us. I think we all have our little "sayings" that we rely on...which might explain Elwood's "what did you have in mind"... it could just be that was a little witty thing he always says. I know I have a gazillion little things like that... Some of my little sayings were passed down to me from my parents and even my grandparents... like you said... "certain sights or words that spark a response". And your Grandmother likely is passing down little sayings and expressions to you that you may not even be aware of... just like mine did... But again.. in recent years it seems there is less and less of that in most people's general conversations... Miss G equals wrongheaded. There's just no escaping that Oh me.. April.... when Ms Cutter is finished with that wrench and rope... I am sure we can pass it on to you.. (this is starting to sound like a game of CLUE... Miss Goddess in the Films and Filmmakers forum with a Wrench.. Ha) I tend to do that a lot myself. Do you listen? I bet you don't. Actually... It depends on what I am saying to myself.. I have noticed that a lot of my "self jabbering" tends to involve "self correction" so sometimes I DO listen... It's when I start asking myself stuff and then answering back that I look around to be sure no one is staring... ha. Lyman (Lie Man) believes he has all the answers, which, ironically, makes him the crazy one. He wants a "quick fix" for things and for him it is all about a more or less "cookie cutter" approach for everyone... As some have already mentioned... the special formula that he wants them all to try is almost like a form of "one cure fits all" sort of medicine. I don't think it is because he is meanspirited or uncaring... I just think it is because he has become too unattached to the emotional aspect that must be a struggle for those who work w/ so many "emotionally" confused people. I imagine that could be a struggle for any sort of caretaker or doctor in his line of medicine... I think you are right. I believe many of us carry "wrenches" these days. You seemingly cannot trust anyone, anymore Well... some folks are more trustworthy than others, my friend. Now... where did I put that wrench???? :-)

I'm willing to bet Dean's burst of laughter was real I know mine was.... It was a very funny take off of the Duke... voice and all.

But look out---the storekeep is a sharp one! Don't let him overcharge you Now the thing is... (about that hat).... when you buy it... it aint gonna look like THAT hat... Which goes back to what both you and Molo have said... it IS beat up and worn.. but it DOES go with his character... WAY more than I thought old Geoff Carter's GIANT white hat went with HIS.... but I am NOT going down that road again... ha. But come on... let's be honest... it's NOT the best hat I ever saw old Duke don.. to be sure. :-) I think it is one of those "guy" things... sort of like their old favorite sneakers.... once you get it broken in, it's YOURS... I used to date this guy (A LONG LONG time ago) that had this ratty old "classic car" T shirt... and he only wore it once in a while... but it was almost literally THREAD BARE.... you could barely make out the picture on the front of it anymore and there were all these little tiny holes in it here and there... and every time I would go over to his house and see him in that shirt... I 'd say something like... "Oh... where is the REST of your shirt". ha. So in Rio Bravo... I guess for John T... the HAT is his "tee shirt"... ha. Let's face it... John T is a man who is VERY sure of himself.(except maybe around Feathers... though he DOES put on a good front for a while) So he doesn't need to "impress" anyone w/ a fancy hat or the latest style... And he knows how to face up to any tough guy head on... even if he feels he may not come out on top... He will still take a stand because it is the right thing to do... and he has ZERO tolerance for the little hired toadies running around working for the Burdettes... So I guess... while I still think the hat is a bit doofy looking (sorry Larry Iknow you want one Ha).. I have to give the crummy thing a "thumbs up" for this film because I think it FITS John T to a.... *T* Ha. :-)

Miss B and Miss G.... WHAT a good story... I really enjoyed THE GOOD FAIRY This is now one of my favorite roles for Frank Morgan... (maybe just below The Shop Around the Corner) and I would say it IS now my favorite for Ms. Sullaven (maybe just above TSATC) :-) What a fun tale... All three men.. wanting to take care of her (but each in his own way)... I LOVED the way Reginald Owen more or less takes her under his wing... He was quite the "mother hen". ha. And wasn't that HERBERT MARSHALL just so doggone dashing?? (after he shaved the beard, of course..Ha) And he was so endearing too... I LOVED when he first finds out he is going to be earning a big salary and he's making plans to buy his office equipment... and then he gets all excited... and says something like... "I'm going to go buy myself a pencil sharpener with different sized holes"!! Ha. TOO Sweet. (and PS.. I actually got almost that excited over buying one of those last fall, myself ... Ha. It's the simple things in life!) :-)

I felt a sadness for him. And then I actually smiled, thinking about Harvey and pookas. It was rather an interesting moment. Mr Grey... did you edit your post after I already read it or something??? I TOTALLY missed your story here until Molo responded to what you wrote....The last time I looked, old Elwood was just taking time to smell the roses and then... I go back searching to read the reference to what Molo quoted... because it caught my eye... and not only did I find a very nice story... but also.... Put that wrench down, Quiet Gal! HA!!!!!! (I am saving that wrench just for you, my friend). And PS... it might surprise you to know that sometimes when I see old folks "talking to themselves" like the man in your story... I will stop and chat with them...(even w/out a wrench.. or a shopping cart to protect me! Ha. I think a lot of times folks like the man you described are only talking to themselves because they have no one else to chat with as a part of their daily life.. and they've gotten used to it. And it really makes their day just to know someone else out there even still "see's them" let alone "hears them". True.. a lot of them are "grouchy"... and some elderly folks will "talk your socks off" at times... but I've spent a lot of time listening to and chatting w/ older folks in a couple of my previous jobs.... and you can really learn a lot about how "pleasant" people used to be in general conversation just by "passing the time" with an older person sometimes. People had a way of speaking way back when that has almost been lost nowdays. And.. PSS... if I had been in your chair sitting next to that fellow... it might also have been a contest as to who talked to themselves more... him or me.. as I tend to do that a lot myself.... Hey... maybe THAT explains why I see all these wrenches in OTHER people's hands when I am out shopping.... Ha.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to why that line may have been included? I think it could be either that A) the mother DID know about Harvey... or Harvey came along sometime very soon after the mother's death before Veta came back to live with him... and Veta just assumed he'd been there longer. And PS folks... I think all this speculation into what may or may not have been a part of Elwood's past is really interesting. I like films where your imagination can come into the story like that. Some of you have made some really interesting observations and I imagine there could be a lot to what you are saying. If I may... I think whatever happened to Elwood, it must have caused him some good deal of disappointment in life. And the way he has learned to deal with it... is as he says.. to be "Oh so pleasant". But whatever his disappointment or even "trauma" may have been... I don't think he is still struggling with it. Whatever it was... he seems at peace... even if he may have moments of "nostalgia" about the past (like perhaps when he saw Sanderson and Kelly dancing.) But even if he has made peace with his past regrets... I think they have shaped a lot of his present behaviors. He is very literal in the way he speaks... (as in "What did you have in mind?") Everyone uses those common phrases like "What can I do for you" or "Let's get together sometime"... just simple "pleasantries"... but to Elwood... they really mean something because he is truly interested in getting to know everyone he meets. So even while he is just being "pleasant"... he is totally sincere... which is NOT how most of the rest of the world seems to operate. It could be at sometime... someone came along who was not what they seemed to be... and took advantage of Elwood's good nature... And maybe he's been hurt by the insincerity in the world around him in the past... and this "literal sincerity" is just his way of dealing with it... Ok.... that's my meandering musings on the matter... hope they made at least a little sense. And if not.. It IS late.. and I am an old worn out woman... so try not to hold it against me... ha. :-)

I had a smile on my face the whole entire film... VERY entertaining!

YOU are too nice to me.. :-) And PS... you may be on to something w/ regard to the "mom' angle....I think it is a common theme in a lot of murder movies... to want to explain away HOW could someone be THAT awful... or WHAT made them act that way... Nobody (especially a mother) would want to think their loved one was a monster like that to be sure... and I think it shows why the sister was so blind to his "off-ness" as well. She still looked at him as that poor little injured boy and wanted to mother him like she used to do. The accident thing never rings true to me. Although, I think if he had bruised a section of his brain (like a stroke) and lost his ability to empathize, that might explain things a bit. I think (again... from a very limited understanding of such things) it is possible to have a bad enough brain injury that it will totally and permanently change your entire personality as well as remove certain "inhibitions" and also affect as you say.. the ability to empathize. (I think it may have something to do with what portion of your brain was injured... but I probably have just watched too many crime shows.. Ha)

57 AAGGHH!! I just HATE mold and mildew stains in my tub!!!!!

Hiya Wendy... I DO see both sides of what you each are saying... I think it is a case where he really can't feel what he used to be like anymore though... At that particular moment... I don't think he's loathing himself... I think he is hating them for standing there talking about him. And I also think he's thinking about how MUCH he hates the world and everybody in it. I don't know... that's just always been my take.. I could be wrong. (it's been known to happen) ha.

My name is Jean Laffite. You stole my Twinkies. Prepare to Die!" See? It just won't work HA!! Depends on what you were going for... Because you had me laughing myself silly!! Ha. And PS... I am anything but elite.... I AM however usually out standing in my field... (as opposed to outstanding) HA!