rohanaka
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Miss B and Miss G.... WHAT a good story... I really enjoyed THE GOOD FAIRY
This is now one of my favorite roles for Frank Morgan... (maybe just below The Shop Around the Corner) and I would say it IS now my favorite for Ms. Sullaven (maybe just above TSATC) :-)
What a fun tale... All three men.. wanting to take care of her (but each in his own way)... I LOVED the way Reginald Owen more or less takes her under his wing... He was quite the "mother hen". ha.
And wasn't that HERBERT MARSHALL just so doggone dashing?? (after he shaved the beard, of course..Ha) And he was so endearing too... I LOVED when he first finds out he is going to be earning a big salary and he's making plans to buy his office equipment... and then he gets all excited... and says something like... "I'm going to go buy myself a pencil sharpener with different sized holes"!! Ha. TOO Sweet. (and PS.. I actually got almost that excited over buying one of those last fall, myself ... Ha. It's the simple things in life!) :-)
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I felt a sadness for him. And then I actually
smiled, thinking about Harvey and pookas. It was rather an interesting moment.
Mr Grey... did you edit your post after I already read it or something??? I TOTALLY missed your story here until Molo responded to what you wrote....The last time I looked, old Elwood was just taking time to smell the roses and then... I go back searching to read the reference to what Molo quoted... because it caught my eye... and not only did I find a very nice story... but also....
Put that wrench down, Quiet Gal!
HA!!!!!!
(I am saving that wrench just for you, my friend). And PS... it might surprise you to know that sometimes when I see old folks "talking to themselves" like the man in your story... I will stop and chat with them...(even w/out a wrench.. or a shopping cart to protect me! Ha.
I think a lot of times folks like the man you described are only talking to themselves because they have no one else to chat with as a part of their daily life.. and they've gotten used to it. And it really makes their day just to know someone else out there even still "see's them" let alone "hears them". True.. a lot of them are "grouchy"... and some elderly folks will "talk your socks off" at times... but I've spent a lot of time listening to and chatting w/ older folks in a couple of my previous jobs.... and you can really learn a lot about how "pleasant" people used to be in general conversation just by "passing the time" with an older person sometimes. People had a way of speaking way back when that has almost been lost nowdays.
And.. PSS... if I had been in your chair sitting next to that fellow... it might also have been a contest as to who talked to themselves more... him or me.. as I tend to do that a lot myself....
Hey... maybe THAT explains why I see all these wrenches in OTHER people's hands when I am out shopping.... Ha.
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Does anyone have any thoughts as to why that line may have been included?
I think it could be either that A) the mother DID know about Harvey... or
Harvey came along sometime very soon after the mother's death before Veta came back to live with him... and Veta just assumed he'd been there longer. And PS folks... I think all this speculation into what may or may not have been a part of Elwood's past is really interesting. I like films where your imagination can come into the story like that. Some of you have made some really interesting observations and I imagine there could be a lot to what you are saying.
If I may... I think whatever happened to Elwood, it must have caused him some good deal of disappointment in life. And the way he has learned to deal with it... is as he says.. to be "Oh so pleasant". But whatever his disappointment or even "trauma" may have been... I don't think he is still struggling with it. Whatever it was... he seems at peace... even if he may have moments of "nostalgia" about the past (like perhaps when he saw Sanderson and Kelly dancing.) But even if he has made peace with his past regrets... I think they have shaped a lot of his present behaviors.
He is very literal in the way he speaks... (as in "What did you have in mind?") Everyone uses those common phrases like "What can I do for you" or "Let's get together sometime"... just simple "pleasantries"... but to Elwood... they really mean something because he is truly interested in getting to know everyone he meets. So even while he is just being "pleasant"... he is totally sincere... which is NOT how most of the rest of the world seems to operate.
It could be at sometime... someone came along who was not what they seemed to be... and took advantage of Elwood's good nature... And maybe he's been hurt by the insincerity in the world around him in the past... and this "literal sincerity" is just his way of dealing with it...
Ok.... that's my meandering musings on the matter... hope they made at least a little sense. And if not.. It IS late.. and I am an old worn out woman... so try not to hold it against me... ha. :-)
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I had a smile on my face the whole entire film... VERY entertaining!
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YOU are too nice to me.. :-)
And PS... you may be on to something w/ regard to the "mom' angle....I think it is a common theme in a lot of murder movies... to want to explain away HOW could someone be THAT awful... or WHAT made them act that way... Nobody (especially a mother) would want to think their loved one was a monster like that to be sure... and I think it shows why the sister was so blind to his "off-ness" as well. She still looked at him as that poor little injured boy and wanted to mother him like she used to do.
The accident thing never rings true to me. Although, I think if he had bruised a section of his brain (like a stroke) and lost his ability to empathize, that might explain things a bit.
I think (again... from a very limited understanding of such things) it is possible to have a bad enough brain injury that it will totally and permanently change your entire personality as well as remove certain "inhibitions" and also affect as you say.. the ability to empathize. (I think it may have something to do with what portion of your brain was injured... but I probably have just watched too many crime shows.. Ha)
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AAGGHH!! I just HATE mold and mildew stains in my tub!!!!!
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Hiya Wendy... I DO see both sides of what you each are saying... I think it is a case where he really can't feel what he used to be like anymore though... At that particular moment... I don't think he's loathing himself... I think he is hating them for standing there talking about him. And I also think he's thinking about how MUCH he hates the world and everybody in it. I don't know... that's just always been my take.. I could be wrong. (it's been known to happen) ha.
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My name is Jean Laffite. You stole my Twinkies. Prepare to Die!"
See? It just won't work
HA!! Depends on what you were going for... Because you had me laughing myself silly!! Ha.
And PS... I am anything but elite.... I AM however usually out standing in my field... (as opposed to outstanding) HA!
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Miss Goddess: he looks like a sullen little boy
Jack Favell: I thought he looked kind of blank in them, like he couldn't even remember what he was before
I think you are both right. April.. He DID look like a sullen litte boy... but I have to agree w/ Jackie.. I imagine he only knows his present emotional state and has NO ability to recall his "normal" days before he was injured. I am certainly NO expert on brain injuries... but I think that little side story is there as a way to possibly explain what made him the way he was... and I think that makes it all the more tragic...if not sympathetic...in a way.
But still he was a monster... no matter what "made him"... so the sympathy for him that I might have only goes so far.
(Maybe not a right comparison... but I think of him sort of like I would one of Dracula's victims... Many of those folks were perfectly nice people BEFORE he bit them... but afterward... I'd be looking for a BIG wooden stake... no matter what. Ha.)
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Hiya little Miss B... I have had my eye on The Good Fairy all week long... occassionaly I DO manage to look at the schedule... ha. Miss G... thanks for posting the link to your old thread... it was fun to read ahead...
And Miss Maven... I missed you!! My rotten luck!! I hope to catch your spot SOMETIME... and all the others too... I haven't been lucky enough to see any of them yet... dadgummit!!
I hope that they will start showing them a little more frequently the closer we get to the big week and then maybe I will get lucky enough to catch some of them!!
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Well, some people would say "the more, the merrier".
Yes... and many of them would likely be talking to themselves.
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would-be swashy of dubious achievement
Not so, Monsieur!! I have read many of your excellent posts on these boards...
Laffite, who is no Inigo.
And to THAT I can only say, based on the things I have read... that mostly likely... Inigo is NO Laffite!! :-)
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Thank you for your *one* vote...
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all the other fun stuff that surrounds this movie.
The longer I hang out in here the more fun I am having learning about all the different directors and little "signatures" they seem to have that can be found from film to film... I am sure there is going to be a lot of discussion on that... but I wanted to just touch on ONE little theme I have noticed that is at least common to the LAST Hawks film we discussed over in Rambles...
THAT hat.... WHAT were they thinkin' ??? Ha... (All registered voters... please cast your vote... and PS.... ONLY ONE vote per human being, if you please.)
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Besieged
HEY!!! Maybe I will borrow THAT title.... and go visit that Noir thread.. Nah!!!!
I will look forward to the ramblin' little lady... I am about to go put in my DVD and settle in for the evening... Chat with you soon!! :-)
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Which is what he had hoped for....
He's sneaky that way... . Ha.
And PS.. He has a LOT of things to hope for... but then again... lately.. don't we all?????
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then you both fall into each other gently in front of the fire place.
I will have to plug in my sweet little cas tiron stove replica space heater with the fake flames that flicker in the little glass window.Ha!! That's as close to a fireplace as we can get around here..(I am still waiting on my INTERIOR DECORATOR to come up here from Florida for my big extreme home makeover) Ha.
whats your favorite part of the movie
I love when she is talking on the phone while she is making baby applesauce and then she starts opening up all the cabinets and the whole place is FILLED with applesauce. You can tell she's had WAY too much time on her hands.
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I've yet to watch Rio Bravo
SLACKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No excuses now... Sunday is the deadline... or I am breaking out the rope...
(PS.. April.. while we have him in here... we ought to mention a little town called LARAMIE... he NEVER showed up for THAT one... ha. BUT... I am afraid to call him on it or he will use it as an excuse to bipass Rio Bravo..)
I will save THAT guilt trip for another day. Ha.
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I especially liked Mrs. Chumley. She herself does not judge Dowd but makes the most of their unusual conversation by enjoying it for the pleasant banter it is.
Chris... thanks for bringing up Mrs. Chumley... I really liked that little conversation. She is so congenial and seemed genuinely kind... she COULD have been played much differently. But I liked that angle a lot. I love when she asks her chauffeur... "Did he say, Pooka?" :-)
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Kathy, will you faint in the arms of your hubby in the snow? you wouldnt mind that would you? heehee
YOU are too cute... If I EVER have to faint... in the arms of ANYBODY in the snow... I hope it is my husband.. the sweet little QT. and PS... if I ever did think I was going to faint and it was snowing... I think I am such a wimp... I would have to say something like... "Hold that thought... and then drag him inside where it was warm and then say.. "Ok" and THEN I would faint... ha.
PS... I LOVE Baby Boom, by the way. :-)
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Well hello there Mrs. Movieman Cacie!! Nice to meet you.
RE: Mandy Patinkin.... I first remember seeing him in The Princess Bride... and then a while after that I saw him (I think it was on cable) in Sunday In the Park With George... and I was so impressed by his singing... I had no idea he did anything but play "swashbuckling" comedy till then. ha! :-) Over the years I've enjoyed both his singing and his acting... He's pretty versatile guy.
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Woo Hoo April.. THANK YOU for the yummy treats little lady!!! (and for the fly swatter!! )I KNOW I can use them both!
PS.. Chris... to paraphrase Will Rogers.... I never met a "cookie" I didn't like! Ha.
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Are you going to grow crazy with the snow like Diane Keaton in BABY BOOM
OH!! I hope not!! I used up all my apples way back in the fall!! :-)
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if it comes here next I'm going to throw in the towel
Steady girl... steady... Maybe by the time it all gets to yours and Jackie's neck of the woods it will just be rain instead...
Ha... I went out this afternoon and took a picture of my poor little hyacinth plant... I will send you a copy... Ha. I wanted to be able to remember it the way it was.. :-(
Oh... send some of those chocolate chip cookies down this way!!! Maybe that will help me feel better!! Y-U-M!!! :-)
(I am saving that wrench just for you, my friend). 
Harvey came along sometime very soon after the mother's death before Veta came back to live with him... and Veta just assumed he'd been there longer. 
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But look out---the storekeep is a sharp one! Don't let him overcharge you
Now the thing is... (about that hat).... when you buy it... it aint gonna look like THAT hat... Which goes back to what both you and Molo have said... it IS beat up and worn.. but it DOES go with his character... WAY more than I thought old Geoff Carter's GIANT white hat went with HIS.... but I am NOT going down that road again... ha. But come on... let's be honest... it's NOT the best hat I ever saw old Duke don.. to be sure. :-)
I think it is one of those "guy" things... sort of like their old favorite sneakers.... once you get it broken in, it's YOURS... I used to date this guy (A LONG LONG time ago) that had this ratty old "classic car" T shirt... and he only wore it once in a while... but it was almost literally THREAD BARE.... you could barely make out the picture on the front of it anymore and there were all these little tiny holes in it here and there... and every time I would go over to his house and see him in that shirt... I 'd say something like... "Oh... where is the REST of your shirt". ha.
So in Rio Bravo... I guess for John T... the HAT is his "tee shirt"... ha. Let's face it... John T is a man who is VERY sure of himself.(except maybe around Feathers... though he DOES put on a good front for a while) So he doesn't need to "impress" anyone w/ a fancy hat or the latest style... And he knows how to face up to any tough guy head on... even if he feels he may not come out on top... He will still take a stand because it is the right thing to do... and he has ZERO tolerance for the little hired toadies running around working for the Burdettes...
So I guess... while I still think the hat is a bit doofy looking (sorry Larry Iknow you want one Ha).. I have to give the crummy thing a "thumbs up" for this film because I think it FITS John T to a.... *T* Ha. :-)