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Barb... I do believe the have the whole thing.. at least it appeared that way
Here is part 1... (and then judging from the way it is listed in there, it looks like you should be able to just keep going on and on after that...) ENJOY!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8T4U_zak8&feature=PlayList&p=4A1AAB0B98F12074&index=0&playnext=1
And PS... Would that I COULD send you my snow... I hope the weather guys are WRONG. I have peach trees that are just startting to blossom and my apple tree is not far behind... All my tulips are budding... (I went out and put some plastic bags over them) I have a feeling a lot of the sweet little spring plants are going to get bit though... because it is supposed to start out as "sleet and freezing rain" and then turn over to snow sometime tomorrow... BLECH!
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Hiya Ms. Cutter... I think that "respect" thing is one of the qualities about Elwood that Harvey may have admired most.. Perhaps Mama Dowd may have "raised her boy right". ha.
Many of the people drinking with Elwood and Harvey would likely love to get off the gravy train so to speak but they all lack the one thing Elwood has, courage to do so.
I think you may have something there... and that COULD be the key to a part of the "envy" that Elwood mentions.
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That is just too weird for me right now! Are you kidding?
NO I am not...but I wish I was.... I went to WalMart earlier today and stocked up on some goodies (we are supposed to get hit with 6-12" of stinking SNOW tonight and tomorrow if you can believe it..) and while I was at the store I decided I wanted a bottle of soda... so I bought one of those little 16oz sized bottles that they have in their coolers... Well... I dropped it as I was putting it in the car... but I did not open it until at LEAST an hour later... so you would think it would have been ok by then... But I guess I opened it too fast... because it went all over my neck and the front of my shirt before I could get the lid back on quick enough... O watta dope am I!! :-)
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Elwood has a talent. He finds people who are unhappy or in need of "conveying" (i.e. help
Hiya Jackie... that is a terrific observation... I think you have pegged Elwood's gift in life... and it may not even be one he was ever aware of. It was likely not even a conscious effort on his part... nice "no sense" posting, there young'un. :-)
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reading the ravings of a lunatic
Oh my, Wendy... if your post be lunacy..rave on, my friend... Lovely ramblings about a lovely film..
The way that every little movement or expression on his face registers in her eyes just blew me away. These two were so in synch as actors. I love that they threw themselves into the story
"In synch" is the perfect way to say it. They hit every emotion perfectly. This story is the best romantic film I have seen in a long time and yet... it is a nice combination of romance, suspense, and even history...
And the images are just lovely (and I'm not even talking about the two stars anymore... April... mouthwater is right. :-) ha)... But just all the artistry that went into the filming of the story as well... the scenes on the bridge where the bomb gets tossed and Marlene is walking around with her lovely flowing gown catching on all the carnage... And the faces... quite "Fordian", if I may say so. And the now infamous forest scene is made even more wonderful by the scenery and the filming...
And to think... I had NO intention of even watching this movie until about 30 minutes or so before it aired... Barb... I mean Countess Bronxling... Thanks again...
PS... Folks... set those VCR or DVD players... I say again.. this one is a keeper
PSS... Wendy..I got sprayed this afternoon opening a bottle of Dr. Pepper myself... Do you think it is some sort of soda pop conspiracy?? ha. :-)
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I am going to have to watch it again first.
It's on my list for later tonight as well... I watched it last about 4 or 5 months ago... but not as you say.. with a "critical" eye... :-) So it sounds as if we all have some "catching up to do" so we can ramble back this way again later then... I will look forward to it..
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Hiya Barb...
I remember how almost magical the scenes in the forest were, when Marlene says, "When did you first know you were in love with me?"
And Robert replies, "The moment I saw you, I was lost".
Oh sigh... again. Ha. What a moment... What is it with the "Robert's" around here lately... last week it was sweet and deadly Robert Montgomery as dear old Danny Boy... and this week we have sweet and dashing Robert Donat to the rescue... Ha.
in THIS movie; you can see he was born to be an actor; the measured diction, the graceful, almost easeful way he seems to enjoy the "play-acting" of being a romantic hero; I adore him here.
I think the range of emotion he had to show here was all handled so well... and he came off exaclty as you say... a "romantic hero".
And you are right about Marlene too... she was so utterly graceful... you chose the perfect word... "Enchanting".... but even so.. she never came off as pampered or cloying. She was very strong and self confident... yet entirely vulnerable... that is an usual mix for a female lead in a film like that... but it really worked for her.
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Oh April... spare your teeth (ha) and be sure to record this one next month... It is a terrific film...
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Are you wrangling for a ramble on ol' Rio Bravo, hermano?
Oh YEE HAW!!! I hope so!! Thanks Chris for posting this excellent article...
And PS... April...thanks for the Rifle Pony and Me song!!! And the great suggestion to ramble... Western minds think alike!!
Go ahead and start us out if you like little lady... Dude and I will be waiting...
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I'm a goner.
HA!! You ARE a goner for sure! (but what a way to go..)
Here is a youtube of the scene I mentioned w/ Marlene and the mob.... (fast forward to about 5 min 30sec) And PS... it looks like the whole movie is on Youtube if you want to watch the earlier parts you missed last night... or... if you want to watch the FOREST scene again.... Ha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlJyuGajj3Y&feature=PlayList&p=4A1AAB0B98F12074&index=3
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Terrific phots!!
those big eyes again.......and i'm NOT talking Marlene here....
And let's not forget the smile... OR that voice!! :-)
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Hiya Molo and everybody!!
Well... it's good to be back on the corner here with you!!
Grey Guy.. you said you took a lot of notes the other day when you watched this film... I have to say this is the first time I have ever taken notes while reading through a THREAD before... there were just so many good little tidbits though and I was too lazy to go in and copy and paste them all in here so I could highlight them.. so you will just have to take my word when I start saying "so-in-so" said "such-and-such" on here... Ha.
Molo... I think it was your original post where you made a comment about liking the dialogue even if it was a bit "hokey". For me, I think it is ANYTHING but hokey... It is actually quite nicely written and very witty as well as rather poignant sometimes... YES ..there is a lot of "sentimentalism" in the middle of it all now and then... but that is ok too because it fits with the storyline so well.... but... Hokey... okey dokey if you want to call it that... I just didnt' see it that way...
And I do agree with you that a lot of this film is about what lies in our hearts and our dreams... But it is also a little bit about living as who we really ARE and how that counts WAY more than trying to be what the world thinks we should be.... and being true to yourself and not trying to change yourself to fit in someone else's mold.
Elwood is just a natural sort of guy... he accepts folks for the way they are... and he more or less expects them to do the same for him... I don't think it even really ever enters his mind much that folks would not "get" Harvey... He never tried to hide the fact that Harvey was there. He just accepted Harvey for who he was.. and he more or less expected that everyone else would too.
So many times when you see a movie about someone having a relationship w/ an "invisible" character.. that person is always getting frustrated and running around trying to hide the fact that the invisible friend is there... or trying to explain away their conversations with that unseen person... Elwood never does this... because he KNOWS Harvey is there... To him Harvey is just as real as anyone else he is talking or relating to at the moment... so he treats Harvey that way. It's not HIS fault you can't see him. So he doesn't take any false responsibility to try and convince you. As far as Elwood is concerned... that would be like him trying to convince Harvey that YOU exist... and that would be a bit silly, now wouldn't it? :-)
I REALLY liked the relationship between Elwood and Veta. She really DOES love here brother. But SHE is the one who is all caught up in what people think... and what's more... She knows Harvey is real too... and that is where the difference comes in... She is like the characters in the other stories I mentioned... trying to explain away this "invisible" friend and carry on like everything was "normal"... Which explains why Elwood was so at peace with himself and Veta was such a basket case.
And I enjoy some of the other little lessons in this film...
I like what Miss G said way back when about how "Elwood places greater value on kindness than on smartness" And that "he thinks consideration of people other than himself is more important than self-importance". There are so many examples of this too... like how no matter HOW nasty anyone gets... (such as when Wilson gets VERY nasty in the bar..) Elwood never responds in kind... he sticks with "pleasant" because it works for him..
And he always treats every conversation with anyone he meets as the most important thing he has to do at the moment... he talks with kindness and respect toward all... no matter what their station. (like the excon at the bar) And Konway87 mentioned Herman Schimmelplusser... I liked how he tells Elwood that "most folks just call him Herman". But Elwood follows up by calling him Mr. Schimmelplusser... (he calls everyone "mr or miss"... and shows admiration for all the work and ingenuity that went into the fence design... while everyone else in the world that passed through those gates never gave it a second thought. Elwood notices a LOT of things everyone else is too busy to see... maybe THAT'S why Harvey took the time to introduce himself...
Grey Guy.. you were right about how all you have to do to get the difference between "smart and pleasant" was to compare Dr. Sanderson with Elwood... Sanderson was so egotistical and overconfident in his own ability that he had totally lost sight of anyone outside himself. Elwood was no longer caught up in himself and his best "ability" was the way he was able to see others and their needs and to care about them as individuals. And as a result.. he made a better "head doctor" than the REAL doctor did.
Ok.. I am babbling on and on.. I am sure there is more to say... but will stop for now... I will go have another slice of cake and some iced tea. (my pooka and I are teetotalers after all.. Ha. ) And will look forward to reading more comments from the rest of you folks... PS.. Chris and Jackie.... welcome to the corner... hope you will chime in some more too...
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Ha. Chris.. YOU have perfect taste and I know I can trust you!! And PS... I am the most easy going employer you will ever have... Set your own hours... work at your own pace.. and NO pressure if you need to take time off!!! And... the reason I can be so easygoing: The only thing I can afford to pay you with is my eternal thanks... AND:
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Wasn't that a terrific movie!!! I am sorry you missed the beginning of it..
; THANKS so much Barb for the tip. I WAS sleepy but I didn't have any trouble keeping my little eyes open to watch this one... And Jackie... you took the words right out my mouth.. or um.. right off of my keyboard... Marlene was the most beautiful I have EVER seen her (though I must confess I have a limited range of knowledge to work from with her)
It was a veritable ROLLER COASTER ride to be sure... I just kept saying over and over.. NOW how are they going to get out of THIS one...
My favorite shot may have come to early in the film for you Jackie... but did you see her out on the lawn by her little pond in the flowing white gown... when all of the "revolting people" showed up... OH MY GOLLY... and she turns to them and sort of freezes... and then holds her head up and walks right toward them... oh my.
But I also was more or less melted into my socks w/ the scene between her and Donat when he comes back to find her in the forest after he hid her under all those leaves.... (HUGE sigh!!!)
And I agree with you... poor young Poushkoff, what a charmer.. and so tragic. I imagine he could be a representative of a lot of young men who got more or less unwillingly caught up in the "hysteria" of the revolution and had little or no taste for what he was called upon to do... and it was a HUGE surprise what happened... I was expecting him to do the opposite... (and it would be hard to explain what I mean w/out giving too much away so I hope you can figure it out for yourself... or let me know and I will PM you.. Ha.)
Thanks again Barb for recommending this film... It's playing again in April and in May.. so I am going to try to get it on tape. It's a keeper for sure.
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The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat.
Hello there "brother rat".
Nice to see you down here on the corner!! It is late and I am just popping in here one last time to see what's what before I call it a day...You and the Grey Guy have given me a lot to munch on... and I also went back in and reread some of the older posts on here as well... I will stop by here again tomorrow sometime (I hope) because I want to reply to some of your fine comments.
Have a "hop, hop, hop, hop, hippety hoppity" evening!! :-)
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Ok.. now thanks to you my hat size is going to be going up... but THANKS for the kind words... and may I also say... right back at ya, little lady. You are quite the "phrase turner" yourself.
And THANKS for the tip on the Marlene film.. I have a new appreciation for her ever since I saw her in Destry Rides Again back at the first of the year...
I stayed up a little too late last night... but I will try to make a go of it and give it a "watch'...
Maybe I should put on some coffee too.. but all I keep in the house is DECAF... It won't keep me awake from the caffeine.... but... if you recall our recent little chat about coffee.. It WILL keep me awake. Ha. :-)
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I found this one and the title drew me in
I can see why!!!! :-)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... and HA!
And PS... surely there has to be at least one.. if not MULTIPLE sequals to such a classic.... how about:
"Son(s) of the Puppet People" Or... "Attack of ALL the Puppet People" Or.... perhaps the little known "The Puppet People Family Reunion Holiday Special" Or maybe.... "Night of the Living and Never Ending Story of the Puppet People"...
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Thank you little missy for saying all that... but you'd better stop now or I may NEVER be able to get my BIG HEAD through the door. Ha. :-)
I think there were just so many good things to get from all these characters and from the movie in general that it was fun trying to put it all down in a way that hopefully made some sense... AND... PS... I was just following everybody else's lead... I think everybody had some really good thoughts on this one... and again.. it would have to be because it is just that good of a story.
One other little "tidbit" that I have been thinking on was the conversation between Katie and Johnny about the little neighbor girl w/ the pretty dresses...
After the little girl dies, Katie makes some sort of remark about how those dresses didn't do her any good and then Johnny says something like... "But she had the dresses" and then Katie says something like... "And now she'll have to be buried in "Potter's Field". It was like that was THE ULITMATE issue for her... and in her mind it was literally a fate WORSE than death.
And it all goes back to what I was saying about her not really "living".. She was willing to pay so much of her family's money to the insurance man to make sure they all had proper burials... when they could have easily used that money for "living" things. But I don't think she saw any of them as having anything to look forward to except a good funeral in the end... and she was going to make sure they got it... It was a HUGE matter of pride for her, and it was the ONLY luxury she was willing to spend any money on. And it is really a sad thing to see how of all the plans she had for her family... that one seemed to mean the most.
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We're rambling about.... rambling!! ha.
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Wendy I know what you mean about using this place to work on your writing skills... I think that is why I like to "ramble"... (Once again.... hail to Miss G for her stroke of genius in starting this thread so long ago)
And I also just enjoy the freedom of being able to jabber sometimes... Ha. So much of our day to day conversations in real life are more like the "leave a comment and move on" sorts of threads on here. But I tend to speak just like I write.. and even in verbal conversations I am way too "chatty". I am much more of a "rambler". (It drives the QT absolutely NUTS... "Get to the point"!! But what he doesn't always understand is that for me to be able to explain the point... I have to lay the groundwork of what I am trying to say first. Ha) He is a "short sentence" talker... I am more like an "entire chapter" kinda gal)
So it is nice to have an outlet for that. It's good to have a place to be able to explore all the possibilities of what a film might or might not mean or why or why not one film is more enjoyable than another. And you are right.. most of the folks her ARE kindly... and have been very nice to put up with all my "jabbering".
And PS... I think my whole brain is one big "FOG" bank... and every now and then I just have to come here to make a "withdrawl" and hope it makes sense.... Ha. :-)
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Hiya Rick.. It all goes back to what I said earlier... we are not all going to like the same things, but that's what makes the world go around...
And ps... I will look forward to reading your list... I have been looking at all those recents lists on here and getting some ideas as to what noirs might be best for a "not so noir" like me. I am always open to expanding my horizons if the right movie comes along.
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Hiya Wendy.. thanks for the kind words...
It is a brilliant script, because each little tiny thread is tied to all the other little threads, until the whole movie is a cloth interwoven so finely that it holds together perfectly.
That is very well said and you are right... it is almost a perfect movie in that respect.
And PS... I have never seen you "fumble and fumble"... you always do a terrific job of bringing out the best parts of a movie.
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I'll have to make a "Kathy List" as well.
THANKS!! You are a very kind man!! And you have an nose for good westerns so I know you will not steer me wrong!!
Ha!! I just remembered that I have joked several times on here about needing a personal secretary to help me keep track of all the movies coming on... I am such a slacker about checking the tv schedules... YOU'RE HIRED!! :-)
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Winchester '73 is one of my favorites.
Well now I am going to have to watch it soon for sure.. I am not 100% sure what seemed to turn me off about it before... but will try to keep an open mind....
PS... RE: Springfield Rifle... NO Western channel... OR Netflix. (I never shop online for anything... too scary for me! ha) Will have to see the librarian about maybe placing a special order... or just wait it out to see if TCM or maybe even AMC will make a showing...
Nice to see you down here on the corner!! It is late and I am just popping in here one last time to see what's what before I call it a day...
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