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humblest of apologies None needed, Miss Maven... And no pressure at all. I only went ahead w/ my post.. because I have a finite amount of storage space in my tired old brain and was afraid I would lose the data to something else... Things tend to get a bit jumbled when they roll around too long w/ all those rocks in my brain... Ha. :-) Enjoy the friendly skies... and come back and tell us all the harrowing stories! I imagine it is a lot of work...but very exciting too.

twisted..... harsh Thanks for the feedback Jack... and now we've both said a mouthful... :-) I think those words are a perfect description of how love ended up for the both of them.

Let's talk about LOVE and what love got Crawford in this film when she spared the rod and spoiled the Veda. Hello there Miss Maven.... I am not sure if school's out or in...I know you have been very busy w/ all your "barnstorming" there w/ the PD helicopters and such.... (PS...you are a much braver soul than I am to be sure) But I wondered if I could go ahead and hand in my assignment on this one...I have been intrigued by your question about Mildred Pierce and "sparing the rod and spoiling the Veda" since way back when a long time ago when you posted it. So...what DID love get for Crawford from all that??? May I submit... Veda turned out just like her Mama (and daddy too) created her. And that is the tragic truth of it all. As bad as things got.. (and well... they ended up more or less at rock bottom) it can all be traced way back to the beginning, don't you think? Mildred had an "attitude" about making sure her daughters had the best.... I am sure a lot of that came from the dissatisfaction she felt in the way her own life had ended up... but she went way beyond just wanting more for her children than she had for herself... She made the mistake of teaching Veda that she DESERVED better... and being an eager student...Veda learned it well. And so it should come as no surprise that Veda lived out what she had been taught. It is always good to find ways to help your child build self esteem and to be the best they can be.... But teaching them to be respectful of themselves as well as others....and teaching them to be kind is all a part of the lesson as well. And while it is true that every parent wants what is BEST for their children... how you define the word "BEST" will play a significant role in making the difference between raising a decent human being and raising an ego-maniacal monster. Way back when Mildred had the chance, she did little to nothing in Veda's early life to overcome the arrogant and superior attitude she had created in her child. That whole incident over the dress....and over Mildred's working as a waitress says it all. And I imagine if we could have gotten a glimpse into Veda's baby and toddler years.... we'd have seen more of what it took to get her to that point. Anyone who has ever stared down the barrel of a fully loaded toddler knows full well...they will "push" as far as you let them. Children have to be lovingly taught to respect authority and they have to be taught things like compassion and decency as well. And one of the kindest lessons a parent can teach a child is that the world is NOT their oyster. Learning things like "it aint all about you" and that "self respect comes from DOING the right things in life....not HAVING the right things" is a lesson some kids never get... or they get it TOO late. And Veda clearly never got it.. She had no clue what it meant to care about anyone but herself. And she had no sense of self respect.... Oh sure...she had self esteem...but that is not the same thing at all. So what HAS love got to do with the mess Mildred made...and that Veda perpetuated?? Well a Mother's love is hard to define....because it often takes many forms... and while i am sure Mildred loved both her daughters. (PS....I wonder if the younger one would have turned out just as rotten eventually???) I submit that she did not love them as much as she loved herself... (stay with me on this one...I promise I will get there...) Because she cared more about her own desire to give them the "best" than she cared about just making sure they were healthy and happy and had the things they needed in life... this could be viewed as a form of prideful self love on Mildred's part. Because if her kids WERE the best...it would be because SHE made them that way. And the credit would be all hers. But too late, Mildred discovered that Veda was NEVER going to be satisfied with Mildred's "best"... because Mildred had already taught her she deserved something BETTER. Better than whatever it was she had at the present.... So there could NEVER be a BEST for Veda... she would always want something more than what she had... And the saddest truth of all is that she had her parents (specifically Mildred )to thank for it. Thank you for letting me hand in my homework early... and PS... in case I need a few "Brownie points" to get a better score...

40 "Well what do you make of it?" "Yes. This man is a spy alright.... But it look's like he forgot to come in from the cold.... I'm afraid he's frozen solid."

The filth loves me and I love the filth A whole new reason to call you....Mr. Grey???

And memorable meetings This one had at least a few, didn't it. :-) PS..very nice screen caps. :-)

I give you a really weird painted mirror, and you give me advice on how to hook up the VCR! Ha...I think I am getting the far better end of that trade!! :-) Good luck w/ the library...It is NOT the best of the Ford's...but I think it is a good story. Hope you get a chance to see it soon. :-)

he can't bear to get rid of anything..... Even if he kept the VCR, it probably isn't hooked up... Ha...I think I told you once that mine has the opposite problem... He is "the order of the universe" and I am more like "utter chaos"....eventually we have managed to "cancel each other out" and more or less are able to maintain an "acceptable" level of mild clutter. :-) Once in a while...our little pendulum swings too far one way or the other...and then I either go "nutso" and start in on a cleaning rampage (hardly ever) or more likely...he goes "nutso" and does one of those "arm sweep" table clearing things.... it's a fine balance. ha. :-) Good luck getting that VCR thing figured out...If he still has one it should be an easy hook up...I would offer advice....but I am sure you would rather rely on someone far less technically challenged than I. :-)

Doesn't Dennehy make a wonderful nasty guy? He is way too good about being bad... But then I have seen him in other roles where he is a real stand up guy...he's got a nice range that way. I will report back in later after watching again. :-) PS...Hey Wendy....Two Rode Together was one of my "library finds"...maybe they will have it on VHS at yours...( I honestly could not recall whether I watched a tape or a disc w/ that...apparently it was a tape) maybe not as "quality" as a DVD would be...but still worth watching.

the big white church right behind Kline Hi there Chris... I have watched this movie probably half a dozen times...but I never paid attention to that detail before. Thanks for pointing it out....I was happy to get this thing on tape last night, but haven't watched it (NOT on the suggested play list for the kidling..) so will have to get to it maybe one night this week. I am so happy to finally get to see it w/out commercials... I haven't been able to do that since the first time I saw it when it came out at the theater. :-) And I think the music in this one is first rate...very energetic and "adventurous" and also very much in keeping w/ what I was mentioning about how they kept it more like the classic style westerns most people think of when they think of a "western" movie. And then....there is Stella... now THAT is another story altogether....what an interesting twist to the tale. :-)

his darker side having no redeeming qualities in Two Rode Together. You have raised some very thought provoking points here, little missy. It is true...Stewart was very UN-likable especially at the beginning of that film...but as things progressed...at least for me...it was almost like he was able to shake off some of that outer layer. He had a persona under the persona so to speak... and he was just letting the "good life" motivate him a little too much at the beginning... he still had his edge at the end...but he was at least a little less self serving it seemed to me. Still not an "all around great guy" but better able to see a bigger picture than himself. Wayne's dark side always has a boundary, and a cause. I agree, though I sometimes wonder about the "boundary"... It was there....but I think there were times when it was a very tenuous hold on him.... as if at any moment he MIGHT NOT stop himself from going as "bad" as he wanted to be (a la The Searchers) ... And at the very least it always had a cause... he could be as nasty and mean as he needed to be...but usually because life or circumstances had created and caused him to be that way. I think both men definitley had their own unique spin on "mean"....but their methods really worked well for the characters they played.

Well hello there, Ms. Favell.... welcome back to the Western side of town.... :-) I would love to paint a mirror for your mantle, providing it fits in with Bronxie's ideas.....however, I think you should remember that I also painted my living room pink just a few short years ago.... My talent is extremely questionable I imagine we can coordinate something.... With her decorating sense... and your willingness to try new bold painting techniques... and my veritable "blank slate" here to work with... My living room ought to be making the cover of house beautiful in no time. :-) PS....we will have to skip the pink though...we painted the kidling's room that color a couple of years ago... (a nice pale icy pink) and you'd have thought he was going to go blind just looking at the color....he won't even use the "p" word....he just call's it "faded red" . Ha... :-) Sounds like you have been earning your Western Stripes to be sure... I haven't seen either of the two titles you mentioned. I will have to look up The Border Incident....but the Jimmy Stewart one is on my list. (PS... as a side note...I have been having way too much fun w/ my new Jimmy movie pack that I got for Christmas...I have 2 more to go... and I so far I have enjoyed some old favorites and made some new faves too) I hope you will get a chance to see Silverado...it is one of my favorites among the more "contemporary" westerns.... although it is what...20 some years old? Ha...I guess I am getting old...pretty soon all the movies that came out in MY day and age will be called...Classics...or at least ..."vintage" (No need to start THAT sort of debate around here....) Silverado's best asset is the "simple" western storyline...that and the terrific cast. I love the way they stuck to the old standard "good guys/bad guys right on down to the "shoot out in the street" And there is a lot of "fun" in the way the story is told too....along with the "fighting and shooting, and such. As well as some very interesting side stories... all in all...a nice way to spend a couple of hours... Hope it is warmer out your way than it is here...bundle up and have a nice evening! :-)

Thanks for the Rhapsody in Blue....hard to go wrong with a good Gershwin tune. :-)

PASTMAN!!! You stole my thunder! HA! :-) I was going to post this exact same one from Pure Prairie League after we got finished going back and forth in the "next line" thread...and I forgot... I've loved this song ever since it came out...about a gazillion years ago.... It is still very high on my favorite list..Sooo....age old question... Is it AMY?? or AIMEE??? I don't have the album... Inquiring minds wanna know... :-) PS....Jake...nice choices.

Muppet-posting Disease I think I am having a relapse...Hey Barb...what do you think... we should compile an album of "Tunes to Clean By...the Muppet Collection" These three will need to make the cut for sure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMR1BtLMZIE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMAdqra6v6M&feature=related

For a while...maybe longer, if I do....

Amy....."What-chu" wanna do? (It's hard to get slang just right on here sometimes...) :-)

a good night's sleep! HA. I am glad to hear those bubbles worked! When I was a kid, we used to go visit my Grandma and she and my aunt would always watch that show every Saturday... One of my little brothers always called it "The Bubble Show". :-) PS...glad you liked the "Tut"... I am still trying to figure out how come Henry Winkler had nothing better to do with his time than to stand back there and hold up the scenery... Must have been "between gigs" :-)

Thanks for the Ramble Mr. Movieman! Love, greed, action, near tangles with death all leads to a pretty exciting time Now that sounds like a movie for me! I am hoping to get to this one soon. It is one of the Ford's I have yet to see, but I am narrowing my list down slowly but surely. I am glad to hear such a strong recommendation from you and from April as well. Between the two of you you keep me up to date on "choice" pics for my Westerns.... How would you compare the "landscape" in this one to the other Fords? That has always seemed to be such a big part of so many of his films... And PS.... Glad to hear you liked the music in this one...I liked the 3 Bad Men tunes better than you did as I recall, but I do know that especially with silents, a good score really enhances the story telling. So that is something to look forward to with this one as well. PSS....I am looking forward to getting to tape Silverado tomorrow night... We are overdue on our chat for that one too.

Sleep well, my little You Tube Sister... Adios, Au Revoir Auf Wiedersehen...Good Night! :-)

Steve doing Foggy Mountain Breakdown CAR-O-LINA!! I wonder how fast I could get my kitchen floor clean mopping it while I listened to THAT!! Here is my all time fave for Steve: ( I once saw him do this on --I think it was the Tonight Show. And he was on ROLLER SKATES! But I couldn't find THAT...this will have to do... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP7AJiQM2RI PS...hello Little Miss Butterscotch.... I am sure you've already seen it...but I LOVE the Eddy Duchin Story...I think the first time I ever saw it I was about 12...and my mom and I stayed up late to watch it....we both were a bawling mess by the time it was over!! :-)

My favorite Chopin...sorry...Cornel couldn't make it for this one... :-)

that Danny Boy is a personal favorite It is so bad...it's good!! (Oh boy, Oh boy...Oh Danny.) I knew if I kept searching....I'd find a little Bluegrass....(Chris....you knew sooner or later I was going to post one...) :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gzTn6f5a0s&feature=related

Muppet-posting Disease I think it is contagious....we may be terminal.. :-) HA!!!! Beaker!!!! (I love it when his violin starts smoking!) Here is one I almost posted for you last night instead of Rita Moreno....I could be mistaken...but there are likely KILTS involved...but they just aren't showing...

Too Cute!!! Again with the Beatles...who knew? :-) This one is for you... not the Beatles....but a pretty snappy little tune none the less...