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(ok...I got lots of "story" ideas....but not much expertise in the directions....so bear w/ me here. Let me know if this is what you had in mind...and feel free to correct me if I make a wrong call.) :-) EXT--COMING FROM THE EAST...AN OLD BEAT UP PIOKUP W/ MIGRANT WORKERS IN THE BACK AND A GRIZZLED OLDER LOOKING FARMER BEHIND THE WHEEL. TRUCK PASSES BY SAMS CAR AND CONTINUES ON WESTWARD. INT. - RACHEL'S CAR. HEADING EAST. LOOKING FORWARD FROM RIGHT REAR SEAT TOWARD DRIVER Sam grips the steering wheel a little tighter as the truck passes and then checks the rearview mirror INT- LOOKING IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR AT THE TRUCK FADING OFF IN THE DISTANCE DOWN THE ROAD. SAM'S EYES ARE VISIBLE IN THE MIRROR TOO. INT- LOOKING ACROSS THE FRONT SEAT FROM DRIVER SIDE WINDOW. Sam spins the radio dial listening for any news or police reports. Nothing but a few music stations playing the standard fare. He turns the radio off and lets out a brief sigh of relief. So far nothing being reported on the news.

sorry I missed it. Sounds like one of those spaghetti western titles Not missed yet....aires tonight at 10PM...maybe not spaghetti....possibly turkey noodle casserole? (Let's hope not anyway) :-)

Be back later this evening to talk about it. Ramble on, baby!!! The more the merrier! Glad to hear we have a new member in the club!! :-) PS..April....I think we need to discuss the size of your "warehouse" if you are going to go into production on those tshirts....you may need to expand your operation even before it gets off the ground! PSS...first "fan club" meeting is at my house...everybody wear their shirts and bring your favorite "finger food"! I'm making my famous "cherry mash" bars. :-)

Randolph Scott (cue chorus) :-) Hey Chris...got anything to say about Count 3 and Pray?????

3 BAD MEN Hi Barb. Hope you get a chance to catch this one. (that will be just one less person I have to stop on the street in my PR campaign!) :-) Seriously....it is worth the effort if you get a chance to see it. PS..your mom is a hoot! :-) Hey April....I wonder if our beloved Tom had any idea we'd all be starting up a fan club for him 80 years later??? :-)

she came through it well Hi Larry!! I am so happy to hear things are going well. I know it is a long process, but it sounds as if you both are getting along nicely and that is very good to hear. Blessings to you and your mom as you tackle these next few weeks together! PS...take your time on catching up here. There is a lot going on...but it's never too late to ramble. Thanks for giving us the update. I always like to hear good news like this. :-)

I came across this shot the other day...a classic! Kids....don't try this at home!! :-) Or at least....wait unitl July or something!! :-) Instead....just try holding you tongue and say "stuck" like Flick did in the movie...it comes out sounding something like this... Duck...duck....DUUUUUCCCKKK!!! :-) Message was edited by: rohanaka

We sang every song that driver knew... (PS...cmvgor...actually there were a couple of lines in between yours and mine....but nobody but me would likely notice..I tend to be a TQM nut...) :-)

Here's one from my favorite movie of all time... Woman-of-the-house! I have brought the brother home to supper!

Hiya folks...a couple of westerns are showing tomorrow night on TCM....3:10 to Yuma is on at 8PM (eastern) ...I got to see this one back during the summer and I know several (if not most) of you have seen it as well What about: Count Three and Pray (1955) It is showing at (I think) 10PM....anybody have any recommendations on this one???

We interrupt this "next line" challenge to bring you the missing line of the one that was in process from E. A Poe....(sorry ILRM...I have been waiting for this moment since this little chain got started) :-) Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore". Thanks folks....Now...back to our program already in progress. :-)

give me the scruffy Tom......with the blue blue eyes.... wow On the right guy...(our Tom would qualify) "scruffy" is a very good thing. I think I like him both ways...Scruffy most of the time...and spruced up for his "Sunday go to meetin'" occassions. Guess I'm a "best of both worlds" kinda gal. Hope you get that scanned...would like to see the "golden locks" :-)

PS April....there's even BOXING in it!! HA! :-)

possibly by Cimarron as well That one is a "wanna see" for me, so will have to take your word for it.

I've never seen Far and Away I am not by any stretch of the imagination a Tom Cruise (or Nicole Kidman) fan...but knowing your love of all things Ireland...and that you like a good "adventure/love story, I can highly recommend it to you. I saw it at the theater w/ my mom when it first came out several years ago...and I have it on tape now too. It is a bit long in places...but it really is an enjoyable story and it is one of my all time favorite "Opie" films.

he and Ford got along quite well Somewhere...(maybe in the wikipedia site? ) I read that he and Ford were neighbors at one time....so I bet you are right. I like the postcard in the middle...he sure knew how to "clean up"! April...about the land race...It is one of my favorite parts...and the whole time I was watching it, I was thinking of this scene from Far And Away...do you think Ron Howard had a little "Fordian" inspiration going on here??

Hey there Grey Guy!! I am looking forward to your ramble. PS...did you see how NICE I was trying to be earlier....don't forget those screencaps!!! :-)

I was googling around and came up w/ a few odds and ends on Santshi and also 3 Bad Men....the youtube is about as close as I will ever likely get to seeing this film on the big screen (sigh) you have to fastforward it to about 1 minute 39 seconds...and then fast forward it off and on for a few fun selections from the film (and hold your ears-or just hit mute- if you don't like organ music...it is LOUD) (PS...I haven't mentioned this yet, but I really liked the guitar/piano/violin soundtrack that was on that DVD...wish THAT was playing on this youtube...but the organ music is likely more "authentic) :-) Also found: http://silentgents.com/BBSantschi.html And here is a pic of our beloved Tom... a little less "scruffy" looking:

Hi fxreyman! The Untouchables 87 When they were filming this movie I was attending The American Academy of Art in downtown Chicago. I remember for weeks on end I would pass the actor?s trailers, and sometimes on my lunch break would go out and watch the filmmakers set up shots. Unfortunately I was never around to see any of the big time actors. But I did see them set up shots involving vintage autos. That was pretty darn cool. Hey that was WAY cool! :-) and the "down town" Chicago scenes are gorgeous w/ all those cars parked along the street. I bet it really was something. I have always liked this film...though it is a bit hard for me to sit through some of the tough guy spots w/ the language and violence at times....but the characters are great. This movie is one of the few "Kostner" films I have actually liked. (Open Range and Silverado would be the others) and it is my all time favorite role for Connery. I also love Andy Garcia....too cute!! And it has one of my absolute all time favorite movie scenes ever ...where the baby carriage is going bump bump down the stairs in slow motion amid all the gunfire. Ness is trying to save the baby and shoot the bad guy all at the same time....and then all of a sudden Stone "slides into home" as he tosses a fresh pistol over to Ness...and stops that baby carriage with his foot as he is lying on his back. Ness (to Stone--about the bad guy) "You got him?" Stone" "Yeah, I got him" Ness: "Take him". And then whammo...lights out for the bad guy...and the little baby in the carriage is all googly and happy, completely safe and blissfully unaware... Oh...now I may have to interupt my "film festival" and watch this one this weekend, just to see that part. (Of course I will have to do my famous slanted hand over my eyes when the actual shot gets fired. Since we have it on tape, I have seen this movie several times and I have yet to watch it w/ out covering my eyes in specific "blechy" parts...it is a bit of a bloody mess....but this particular scene is just so well done... it is a really great "shot" of a really great "shot") . :-)

Thanks April...I love the pics you posted. My favorite is the big shot of the cast and crew...what a crowd!

Perched, and sat, and nothing more.

Hi April... So you love my 3 Bad Men now I am head over heals...was there ever any doubt??? :-) I had a shirt made up HA! I love it! If you ever decide to market them...I will be your first customer. (we should all have them made and then when we run into each other by chance out there on that "Ford Tour" of the southwest locations you posted a long time ago....we'll all be able to know each other on sight! :-) haven't yet watched this film with a view to picking up details like that I hope I haven't made more of it than it is...but when I first saw it...it really caught my attention because it just was such a great shot...and I wanted to know WHY were they highlighted in a way that was seemed so "symbollic" and so I went back and looked at again after I had finished watching...and the second time it seemed that way to me...as if they were being "sent" ...but then again...I could just be reading more into it than was intended. I think for me it was just so expressive it needed to have a "reason" behind it. Others might not agree. also don't watch it too often because it's just so emotional and I'm about played out afterward (just like with The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance). There are certain stories that are like that...and I totally agree that this one could be among them. It has really stayed with me since watching it. I still get a little sting behind my eyes from time to time though I haven't been quite so weepy about it today as I was yesterday. (I am so pathetic sometimes!) :-) Tom Santschi's expression is both funny and heartstopping If he were still around today...wow...what an actor. I have never heard of him before this film...but he (along w/ the other 2 as well) really owned that role. I read what you wrote about others possibly being intended for these parts...I am so glad things ended up as they did because I just could not imagine anyone else now that I have seen it for myself. I'd love to have them for my "guardian angels They would certainly have given my "three mall custodian uncles" a run for their money. I loved those fellas a lot..but these 3 men in hats...( I just can't call them bad anymore) they are awfully hard to beat. I know FrankGrimes has some good screencaps of 3 Bad Men, if he can be persuaded to share. OH!! Paging Mr Grey...nice friendly kind hearted Man of the Grey hat! (are you persuaded yet???) I haven't taken any as yet, I'm still too "close" to the movie to be able to sit and go through that...I'd short out my keyboard for sure with all my tears HA! Now we are BOTH pathetic. :-) PS...Chis...FF...any one else interested...hope you get to watch it again soon....it's never too late to ramble. "the Three" have a new admirer. I want to be their new PR spokesperson...if you see someone on the street saying..."Hey have you heard of this really great Silent Western by John Ford..." you will know it's me! :-) Message was edited by: rohanaka

your story had me laughing till .... no I didn't spit water out my nose... but just about. Whew! Close call! I still crack up thinking about our "Chaplin/Goulet and Fat one and Thin one" conversation. Your description of Three Bad Men made me want to cry Jack...glad you caught all my "emotional excitement" about this story. It is really hard to hide...(as if I could) I wasn't joking about needing a fresh Kleenex...yesterday afternoon I was "reliving" a few of the moments and I had a few tears get away from me...the short person caught me and got all concerned because she absolutely hates it when old mom cries. I told her that I was just remembering how special a part of the movie was that I had watched the night before...and she got this look on her face..."Don't cry mom...it's only a movie". (Sometimes she' s so practical) :-) That the heart of a man is more important than where he's been or even what he's done. That friendship can mean something deeper than just "talk". And that love between a man and a woman does not always have to be consummated, and it is borne of respect. Ford explores these subjects Nicely said. I think a lot of present day movies could take a lesson here. but he entertains us "purty well" the whole time Oh...the laughs in this one are priceless. I especially like Mike and Spade who are totally endearing as much for their humor as they are for their actions as heroes. There are some real "sidesplitters" in this one for sure. Where did this movie come from? I want to know! Being the least educated about Ford's films among all the folks who post on here, I can only say that if I had to guess...I think your answer is in your post here... Ford's soul ... He takes the focus off of the young lovers, and places where it belongs - in the most interesting place, looking at the most interesting characters, the Three "Bad" Men. Well said. These "3 characters" are some of the best written roles I have come across since I met Henry Fonda at the Oxbow. I have to say I am having quite the time choosing between my new favorites...but I think this film has edged TOBI over just a nudge as my most fave among all my most recently watched "newbies" ...and then perhaps The Gold Rush in 3rd Place...boy...it is hard to choose among them....but the "3 Guys" pack such a wallop on the old "emotion meter" I just can't help but lean their way.

Ok... (deep breath and a sigh) ... Now...what can I say about *3 Bad Men* .... (this is definitely going to be one of those "this is what I saw...this is how I felt about it" sort of posts folks....so please bear with me as I get a fresh kleenex here...I have been reduced to tears several times today just thinking about all the emotional aspects of this story...and that's a GOOD thing...so don't feel sorry for me!!) :-) Let me first start by saying if you hear a sort of a "rushing wind" noise going on from somewhere in the Midwest....that is me...being totally blown away by this film. Watta movie. April...I can honestly see why this one is so dear to you. It is truly breathtaking. I have to tell you a funny story first though....Last night when I put the disc in the DVD player I had no idea that it was anything other than a regular old DVD. Well, when I pushed the button to get things started...the only thing I could bring up was the OTHER film that is on this disc The Hangman's House (which by the way...I have watched PART of this one so far...hope to see the rest tomorrow..so far a very good story) But anyway...I sat there pushing button after button trying to get the stupid thing to pull up the start menu for 3 Bad Men....and NUTTIN' honey. OH!! I was so mad I was about to throw the remote control at the TV. I picked up the DVD cover thinking MAYBE there would be some sort of instruction or something to tell me WHY I was having such a problem....and again....NUTTIN honey!! And just as I was about to throw IT at the tv....a little tiny box at the bottom of the cover (on the back side of it) happened to catch my eye....WHO IN THE WORLD EVER HEARD OF A DOUBLE SIDED DVD???????????) OH!! The technophobe in me was SO frazzled by the time I figured this out....I was thinking I would have to write a letter to my congressman or something...WHAT a nightmare...but...then...I flipped the silly little silver disc over and all was right with the world... NOW...on with the ramble...I just have to say that these 3 guys....these men in hats...they are something else. I love the way they arrive...all menacing at first...with the wanted posters as their resume. As I started adding up the reward money I was thinking "Gee--If they are worth all that, I might turn them in myself" It was a high dollar price tag hanging over them for sure and it spoke volumes about how they truly deserved to be called...BAD men. And then...as if there was some sort of hint that MAYBE there was more to them than the wanted posters implied...they come riding OUT of the sun (instead of riding off into it the way most cowboy movies end) They rode OUT of it...all lit up from behind...as if maybe they were being SENT....though certainly even they themselves did not know it...Ok...maybe that's a stretch....but I watched this TWICE just because I wanted to see it again for myself...and that's my take on it. (Now feel free to tell me to go soak my head or something. ) :-) SPOILERS will abound....so reader beware: Perish the thought....but imagine if you will WHAT would have happened to Lee if they had not arrived on the scene when they did. Even though they were not riding to the rescue, but rather to steal for themselves and by any means necessary...they were in fact her saviors. By thwarting the plans laid for her by the other BAD men, they more or less had their "greatness" thrust upon them. They had no intention of being heroes...Bull was ready to do whatever was necessary to ride off w/ those horses as planned...until Lee's hat came off...and it was revealed to him that HE was a SHE. And that changed everything. Of course Bull's desire to rescue his sister was so strong in him (though we don't know that yet) that he transferred his need to protect and shelter the sister over onto Lee. And as he got deeper and deeper into the situation at hand...he and his friends as well...they could not withstand the pure trust she put in them. And they had no choice but to fall prey to her need for protection. It was almost as if THEY fell victim to HER (instead of the other way around) Because...as eventually they began to realize...they were being transformed by the image she had of them, rather than by their own will. SHE made them better because she believed they were better. (is that making any sense?) So...What about these three "accidental" heroes..Were they really BAD MEN? On the surface this may seem like one of those "gray" moments...they had a choice...they had to decide....it was a stuggle...it might have gone a different way....but then again...I don't think so. Sometimes I think bad men can do good things...and other times...I think good men will do bad things. And I think that the GOOD in these bad men was there all along. And they had just been living in contradiction to there own true selves until Lee came along and made them see their own potential. I LOVE the part where she firsts calls them her 3 Bad Men. It's so "tongue in cheek" almost as if she is mocking the Sheriff in disbelief. But then again...I think she really DID believe they were as disreputable a bunch as he was describing..but she chose to judge them only on HER experience not what others had said. And then later...when she hires them....and she says..."you are MY men." When they take their hats off and straighten their backs up....it is both out of respect for her and out of respect for her trust in them...but I also think it is likely the first time they have felt "righteous" in a very long time...and they like it. It is as if they just got a "clean slate" and they are now made honorable in their new role as "hers" . And of course they also go beyond her ownership of them...and take on the role as HER keeper as well. SHE becomes THEIRS...to love, protect, respect..they need her as much as she needs them. It's a beautiful transition. The "husband hunt" was hilarious. And it is very telling that they see themselves unworthy of her in any role other than as her protectors. (we had this sort of conversation way back at the Oxbow as I recall) I like how "fate" played a role in the selection process...since Lee had already met and been attracted to Dan...and vice versa.. but you'd never have guessed that had anything to do w/ it as far as Bull was concerned..HE was gonna see to it that she had everything she needed...including MR. Right. And what about the REAL bad man...Sheriff Hunter...what a piece of work Much could be said about him and all his various attributes, but I think I will focus mainly on his appearance. Wasn't he just too well put together. TOO "good" to be good, so to speak. He was almost "spotless" on the outside... yet he was as black as night just below the surface...BAD doesn't even begin to cover it. All the various side stories that go along w/ this film.....w/ sister Millie...with the land rush..with the whole "battle of Good vs Evil" as far as the attack on the church service was concerned... they all come together so nicely and just enhance all the other elements of the story.And the "last stand" sacrifices that these men make to protect Lee in the end...well...I could certainly go off the deep end just sitting here talking about that all night. I am sure I could sit here for some time to come and go on ans on w/ more and more "ramblings" as this film is just so full of possibilities for discussion.... but I will stop for now and catch my breath...and hope to see a few of you others step in and ramble on a bit. There is much more that can be said, but I am sure you don't need me to be the one saying it all... I will add one more thing to my comments tonight though...and that is a HUGE thank you April for your strong recommendation for this film. And to all those of you who have also discussed this story on here in the past. It is now on my list of favorite westerns to be sure....not to mention it is also now among the lists of my all time favorite films in general....and SUNRISE better be looking over it's shoulder...as I may have a new favorite Silent film...I don't have a LOT of expertise in the area of Silents, but I am gaining a whole new appreciation for them. Please....let me hear from some of you. And....screen caps folks....lots of screencaps if you please...the images on this film are just gorgeous sometimes. Here is a website I found that has a nice commentary on the film....I haven't read through the whole site yet, but I thought it was interesting, and one of the pages has some nice pictures too.. so thought I would share.... http://www.silentsaregolden.com/featurefolder/3badmenpage.html I look forward to reading your rambles folks. And (as usual) thanks again for letting me go on...and on...and on...

fxreyman....great list. I have seen most of the films you have listed. Just borrowing from you list...I have gathered a group here that I really like and many of these are films I have seen more than once...The one's that I have marked with a ** are films I would put on a list of my own favorites. Shadowlands 93 ** Much Ado About Nothing 93 Batman 89 The Abyss 89 Fargo 96 ** Open Range 03 ** The Silence of the Lambs 91 ** Unforgiven 92 Mystic River 03 Apollo 13 95 A Beautiful Mind 01 ** (April, I think we talked about this one...it is VERY good) The Remains of the Day 93 ** ( I think several of you folks on here would like this one, given things I have read that you also like) The Right Stuff 83 ** The Empire Strikes Back 80 ** Sense and Sensibility 95 ** (this is one of my VERY big FAVES) The Three Musketeers 73 The Four Musketeers 74 Robin and Marion 76 American Graffiti 73 Star Wars 77 ** The Last of the Mohicans 92 ** ( also a HUGE favorite) Big 88 Awakenings 90 A League of Their Own 92 The Hunt For Red October 90 ** Time After Time 79 Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan 82 Clear and Present Danger 94 ** Mississippi Burning 88 ** Sabrina 95 A River Runs Through It 92 Jaws 75 ** Close Encounters of the Third Kind 77 ** Raiders of the Lost Ark 81 ** Schindler?s List 93 ** Amistad 97 Saving Private Ryan 98 Tremors 90 ** City Slickers 91 Witness 85 ** Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World 03 ** Back to the Future 85 ** Who Framed Roger Rabbit 88 ** Glory 89 ** Films I would add to the list as also being among my favorites in this time period would also be: Empire of the Sun, The Patriot (Mel Gibson--not Steven Segal), The Man From Snowy River, The Untouchables, Far and Away, Parenthood, Signs, Unbreakable, Independence Day, The Fugitive, Silverado, Steel Magnolias, The Edge, You've Got Mail,The Mask of Zorro, Regarding Henry, Conspiracy Theory (Oh...this is an edited addition...HOW could I have forgotten *ET* !!!! ) (I know if I sat here I could list about a dozen more...but these are ones we watch a lot around here..or at least we USED to before we went to a strictly "G" rating for most of our primetime fare these last few years. :-) PS... ladies...I remember Murphy's Romance from way back when it came out at the theater...It is one of the few Sally Field movies I wish they WOULD play more often. But mostly because then I could see James Garner...as I recall he was really good in this one. :-) Message was edited by: rohanaka