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Hey there, Miss G!! the FIRST thing I thought was: I hope now Rohanaka can make paragraphs Ha.. its been a whacky summer w/ the whole run on (and on and on) paragraphs, hasn't it. (but hey.. kinda symbolic too... if you think of all my run on and on (and on) blabbage. HA! I do see that there are still a few bugs they must still be working on w/ the new look.. will hope when the dust settles I will still be ok. Will keep my fingers crossed. Meanwhile.. as annoying as it was to not have that whole paragraph thing going on... I hate to admit, I was kinda getting used to it. ha. Everytime I get to the end of a paragraph, I still want to hit *** just to let you know that I really DO know it is time for a new one.. ha. But then again, it MIGHT have been too easy of a crutch for me to make excuses too ha. (as in: "sorry if my posts don't make sense.. it's just because I can't make paragraphs") I'll have to pay more attention to what I am typing.. ha.. because NOW what sort of excuse will I use if babble in my blabbage??) ha!

You too, Mr. Movieman! Hoping the same for you, sir. And PS.. will just add to that Madhat MOLO (wherever he may be) Here's a wish for a very happy BIRTHDAY (a day late) But golly.. If he doesn't come out of hiding soon.. we may have to throw him a NECKTIE party for his birthday

HELLOO there Grey Dude, So you liked it ha.. yes I DID!! Thanks for the tip!! Good call in recommending it to me. I had no idea what I'd been missing all this time. ha. Very funny film. Did the little one watch it with you No.. she started to.. but ended up goofing around outside instead. ha. .go figure.. a kid.. wanting to play outdoors instead of watching a movie!! (of all things) But the QT watched with me.. and we both just roared in places. ha. It was hilarious the way that old gal ran the show (and she didn't even know there WAS a show being run. ha) What were some of your favorite moments I think there were several parts that were particularly funny.. the bits you posted especially.. where she caused all the commotion in the street.. where she ended up having the POLICE help her carry the money. And the tea party too were all hilarious. I liked the "quirky house too. very funny. I even liked the beginning when she went to the police to tell them that her neighbor was in ERROR for reporting the flying saucer.. ha. (just wanted to set the record straight!) But to be honest.. I think mostly it was the way all the crooks treated her. She drove them nuts.. she got their goat... and they couldn't show it because they had to be so nice to her. The looks they gave over her head.. and the eye rolling when they had to be "polite" when what they REALLY were was thugs.. ha.. It was almost too much for them. And then by the time it was over, they were all so intimidated by her, (or by the thought of killing her) that they just couldn't do it. (and I liked how the one big guy really did try to protect her. I was actually sorry to see him go.. him and the colonel too, for that matter.) And I loved how they all ended up bumping each OTHER off as they were trying to kill her. HA! And then they all more or less dumped other's bodies, so there wasn't even anything to clean up.. ha. So neat and tidy!! TOO funny. Meanwhile. on behalf of Old Grandma's everywhere.. ha.. I have to say that she was a "black and white" gal after my own heart. I love how she scolded them (once she found out what they'd done) and was bound and determined to turn herself in too. ha.and then when she tried to turn in the money.. the police told her to keep it. ha. (if ONLY that could happen to me!! ha) And I might have misunderstood you because it wasn't as much like We're No Angels as I thought it might be based on what you had said.. because let's face it.. for the most part they did NOT end up wanting to help her.. or get all that attached to her (except for the one guy) and hey.. there was no ADOLPHE, either ha) and I don't even know if I can compare it too much to Arsenic and Old Lace, either at least in terms of the stories themselves. But having said that, I DO see how you related this one to those two (in terms of the type of HUMOR that is in them) I would have to say that of the three A & O L is likely still my most fave.. but it may be a close tie between this one and WNA for second place. ha. So yeah, I have to confess..it was a lot of fun. (Golly.. who knew I had such a DARK side.. HA)

Hey.. would you look at that!!! Paragraphs.. Paragraphs.. Paragraphs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (turquoise may just be my new favorite color now)

wish I could relive the joy of watching them for the first time Hello, SF.. I feel that way about a lot of movies too. But then there is also the other side of that.. the more I watch an old favorite, sometimes the more I find to like about it too.

Thanks for the lovely pic of Miss Hagen, Mr. Mongo, sir. Her Lina Lamont character is a favorite around here. I called the kidling over to look at the picture (without telling her who it was) and said "guess who's birthday is today?" And when she saw who the picture was.. she shrieked out (in her best Lina voice) "BIRTHDAY! It's MY birthday" ha. Thanks again, for the smile.

YO Grey Dude.. I just finished watching your "Ladykillers' movie.. may I just say.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... and HA!!!!!!!!!!!

test > test > test(alas.. another "home remedy down the drain) Edited by: rohanaka on Aug 2, 2013 3:41 PM

Hello there Jackei.. Gladys George is on today in Doris' Lullaby of Broadway, I believe. I just wanted to get that in there cause it's coming up next *** Missed it (dadgum) But am hoping to catch a few of Doris' movies later today.. and this evening too. Sorry to have missed Gladys though*** I don't mind a stupid movie that might have some content, like Dodgeball, or something really dumb. But I do draw the line like you do, at glorifying stupidity ***yeah.. stupidity is usually off the list too (movies like Dumb and Dumber... maybe not the most recent example.. but one that I NEVER understood the appeal for.. ugh, blech.. and ICK) ha. But the ones I REALLY hate are when they go out of their way to make "mean" or "nasty" kids funny.. or use name-calling and rudeness as the base for the entertainment. If they have someone behaving badly (who then goes on to learn a lesson) that is sometimes ok.. but to just glorify really rude or ugly behavior by calling it "comedy" never works for me (with kids or adults for that matter) *** the gasp she let out when Maxim actually admitted that he killed Rebecca was amazing! She really loved the lush settings and the mystery of it ***I love getting to see an old favorite through new eyes that way! Has she seen Curse of the Cat people with you yet??? I wonder how she'd handle that one?? Very poingnant.. and only a "little" creepy. ha. You can fill her in on the background of who "Irena" is.. if you think the first movie would be too much) ***we can't just leap into Psycho or Frenzy ***OH goodness no.. ha. (I was almost 20 before I ever saw Pyscho all the way through.. ha. And even THEN it about tid me in.. ha) What about.. hmmm.. going a completely different route.. Little Women (you get comedy, tragedy and romance all rolled into one w/ that one) ***I feel that way too. We watched Lassie but halfway through when Lassie gets shot, she gave me the most murderous look! She was bawling and I was bawling, and she was so MAD at me because Lassie got hurt! I'm like, "It's not my fault ***Ha.. oh the betrayal. HA! Dog lover movie watchers UNITE!! ha. We watched the last hour or so of The Courage of Lassie (where Lassie isn't even Lassie.. ha. she/he is "BILL" ) but oh me.. the kidling and I BOTH were up in arms over it all. ha. And then last summer (I think it was summer) the kidling and I watched "Goodbye My Lady" when TCM showed it.. ha.. oh my GOLLY we were both a mess. Neither one of us had seen it before (and I had never even heard of it before) so neither one of us knew what to expect. ha. (oh those doggy movies.. they are near and dear to our heart) I have not let her watch Old Yellar.. I don't think she could take it ***I forgot two she really loved - Mon Oncle, which I own, but we also watched it on Essentials Jr. Bill Hader said something about the other Tati movie, Monsieur Hulot's Holiday, and she said, "Mom! You mean there's ANOTHER ONE??? Why didn't you TELL me *** That is one I should check out.. I've seen you mention it before and have not ever really heard much about it.. I should look into it. ***The other she really got a kick out of was The Ladykillers, which I think you and your kidling would love ***I have a reminder set to watch it tomorrow AM.. will hope to be able to comment (in FrankGrimes Torture thread) as I remember the two of you saying it was one we ought to check out. ***Every time I watch I am practically yelling at the screen, "Don't do it! Alan, DON'T DO IT!" between sobs ***(Petrified Forest Spoilers) I kept thinking MAYBE (maybe) Bogie would let him off the hook and not just go for the whole "cold blooded" thing.. (right before he goes out to meet his own doom) and then Leslie would wake up and realize life really WAS worth living... but AGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! (oh me.. did I ever mention how MAD that movie makes me?? ha) ***PS: RE: The Long Long Trailer.. ha.. I hope she likes it.. the kidling absolutely LOVES it.. and she is (along w/ dog loving) quite the rock collector too.. ha.. so I always tease her about that part of the story.. ha.. that she has more rocks in her ROOM than Lucy tries to fit into that trailer. Edited by: rohanaka on Aug 2, 2013 3:07 PM

alas.... SF.. no dice. (but hey.. I guess we can say now we've tried everything)

Sans Fin says: it may be worth the experiment to insert a: ">" where you wish a new paragraph>To which Rohanaka replies.. ha.. I'm game. The Grey Dude gave me some other tips to try too, that did not work.. but hey.. at least we tried.. (I love these home remedies.. ha.) Wish me luck.

aaaggghhh.. I just have to let off steam as I apolgize to anyone reading my last post for the fact that I cannot seperate my PARAGRAPHS.. aghh.. (lousy tcm message board bug) still no solution in sight I guess.. and only a few of us are affected.. but did I mention aggghhh????????? (thanks.. I feel better for having whined a bit.. I will stop now)

Howdy there, Jackie.. That's so true. I'll admit we are picky in this house *** We are too.. and I tend to be a bit strict about it, sometimes because I just refuse to take her to see a movie (or let her check out from the library either) that is going to glorify "lousy" kid behavior as entertainment. (so we avoid any of the ones that tend to promote rude or beligerant nonsense right off the bat.. ha.. so that eliminates a LOT of the ones that seemed to be coming out these last few years for sure) We also don't do "creepy" either (as in ghosts, witchcraftt, etc (except for Wizard of Oz type stuff)... so we've avoided a lot of OTHER movies that way too. (did I mention we are pretty picky?? Ha) I like that she is actually almost more mindful of it that I am.. if something comes on TV that she thinks (or knows) is inapporpriate for her.. she'll tell me (even before I get the remote out sometimes) Mom.. we need to turn this. She's tougher than I am on it sometimes. ha*** Now don't get me wrong.. we are not all "Mary Poppins" ha.. because in many ways.. she is like her Mama and she does like a good story.. and she has seen some more mature stuff.. so long as it is not TOO gritty and as long as the language and violence is not "over the top" etc.. but we just sort of have to pick and choose now far down the road we let her go. If it is an older movie that I have seen.. I can pretty much tell if it is one I want her to watch or not. but for the new stuff (just coming out) I have a website that I rely on that does movie reviews and includes details on "family friendly" content as well as whether the story or characters were any good, etc. Its been a pretty good guideline for us.. we actually avoided a few movies we THOUGHT we might see over the years after reading up on them first. (it will even tell you how many cuss words.. if there are any.. etc) so I look on there before I say yes or no.. it might seem extreme for some folks.. but it works for us*** Jackie says: My little one has her own too, or should I say 'two'? Because through years now of watching, her favorites are still Singing in the Rain and Modern Times. She's added to those a tiny few classic films, so I'm really happy about that! Rebecca hit her like a ton of bricks, Mon Oncle is a great favorite too, but not on a par with the others. The Thief of Bagdad and The Jungle Book come in a little lower still. She liked watching My Man Godfrey but isn't super into it. Oh yes, The Wizard of Oz is still a huge favorite, probably along the ranks of the first two. So make that three! Other than that, there haven't been a whole lot that grabbed her, though she will sit and watch with me many times *** I LOVE that she liked Rebecca.. I bet it really held her attention a LOT. (she is just getting too that age) Wowsa.. And Modern Times is a fave for the kidling too. We watched the Jungle Book a long time ago.. but I think the kidling need to see again, because it was several years ago, and the last time, I think she was expecting it to be more like the animated version. I bet she'd like it more now. **** As for the kidling's taste.. Let's see.. in the last year she has either asked for (as gifts) or bought for herself (with b-day money).. Singing in the Rain, The Three Musketeers. (because we DO have a crush on Gene Kelly, as you know.. ha) And she already owned The Wizard of Oz (from a previous Christmas a few years ago) We went out this Spring to some community garage sales and scored a whole bunch of movies and some of them were HER purchases.. she now is the proud over of a nice collection of Shirley Temples.,. plus (ha.. drum roll please) a set of GODZILLA movies. (is she my girl or WHAT? Ha) She also has a VHS copy of Mighty Joe Young (that she has cabbaged on to from mom and dad), and we bought The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad a few years ago and she takes GREAT delight in bringing that with her when she goes to visit some of her friends.. you know.. to have something "original" to offer that they might not have seen before. (ha.. really.. I think she just wants to see it again, for the umpteenth time) And most recently has asked me to find.. buy.. something.. ha.. a copy of The Long, Long Trailer, (she has checked it out of the library a couple of times over the last year and absolutely LOVES it) She also has enjoyed some of the Essentials Jr. w/ me this year, and she loved getting to see the Pirate again recently (gottal love that Gene) and she also enjoyed Great Expectations (and I told her if she liked THAT one.. she needs to watch David Copperfield w/ me next time it is on.. ha) And of course.. she does like the Duke too.. though admittedly.. she has not seen as many of his films all the way through, as I tend to sendher out of the room when they begin to get gritty. She also likes Chaplin.. and she enjoys Lassie movies too, (though I don't think she's gotten to see very many of them all the way through.. we always seem to come on them late.. after they already started.. ha.) What can I say.. her tastes are sort of "all over the map" but I just like the fact that she LIKES the classics.. some as much if not more as the new stuff too.*** South Riding is the better film and Ralphie isn't such a sourpuss in it, in fact, he's quite touching. Friday the Thirteenth is barely watchable in some sections, though I really like the premise and some of the stories in it. It's very early on in British sound film, so it's not near as well made as the American films of 1932, we'd got the hang of it by then, but they were just starting. Hope you won't be bored by it Well the nice part about the FTT one on youtube is it is REALLY broken u p into tiny pieces (looks like they are all well under ten minutes a piece) so if it gets too boring.. ha. I can skip over that part and move on.. ha. I looked up the story line for South Riding on the PBS website.. it does sound like it would be a good one. *** I hope the TCM programmer saw our exchange, they are so good about listening to the fans ***Me too.. it would be fun to see a collection of her work all together just to compare some of her characters and how they are portrayed. *** I had no idea that Gladys George died young...now I have to go and look her up! She's always an arresting actress and I literally discovered her and fell in love with her actng in my teens, watching The Roaring Twenties with Cagney. I'd like to know where she trained, if she was theatrical... how she got so good at playing it so down to earth *** I think from what I read, it sounds like she had been sick for a good long while with various illnesses actually.. but died of a cerebral hemorage. (if I am remembering it right) And I think it mentioned she started acting as a child.. so she had a good long life of it.. that is likely how she was so able to hone her skill and develop such a good feel for how to give such depth of feeling to a character like that. ***PS.. love the chat about Leslie in the Petrified Forest.. I think that is one of my most fave roles for him, by the way. Oh me, oh my.. what a tragic guy THAT character was. (He made me mad.. and broke my heart.. all at the same time) Edited by: rohanaka on Aug 1, 2013 9:18 PM

Jackie says: We are starting into the choosy stage with my kidling. She is too old for some of the movies, but then she wants to see Despicable Me 2, so go figure. One of the joys in my life has been seeing these outlandishly unrealistic movies where toys can come to life and people can invent things like cookie robots and **** guns, or shrink the moon with a giant shrink ray. I don't go to the movies for reality! I go pretty much for the opposite! So kids movies can be refreshingly unreal ***We are getting close to leaving some of the "kiddie" stuff behind, but she does enjoy a lot of it still. We have definitely taken a turn though.. not so much into the whole "princess" thing as we used to be. As for the "outlandishly unrealistic aspect.. ha.. yeah, some of the ones they have now days are completely insane.. ha. (Shades of Carl Frederickson and his flying house. ha) but some of the stories are really very fun.. and a few of them actually have some really good messages in them too.. if you can get past all the "whacky" premises that get thrown in to tell the story. There ARE some that are just a complete waste of time though.. in fact a lot of "kids" movies are not worth a plug nickle.. you really have to shop around. One thing that along w/ floating houses, talking cars, flying dragons, and now racing snails.. ha.. the kidling is also very open to classic movies. (go figure, ha) She has even begun a small collection of her own (in and amongst her "kiddie" movies. And that has been fun for me to see her discovering her own "favorites" in between all the ones she just gets stuck watching with me.. HA. ***He's really horrible in both of those movies, I remember thinking how amazing it was that he could be so vile. I don't know if you can find South Riding online, it's pretty scarce. I had to order a really bad print online and it's probably the best one there is. But Friday the Thirteenth is on youtube. Though it's a choppy film with lots of stories going on at once, I still like certain parts of it *** I found Friday the Thirteenth.. so will try to give it a look see (so long as no knife-wielding LOONY in a hockey mask pops out at me.. HA) I also looked up South Riding.. but didnot see it, so I bet you are right. Though I DID notice that a remake of it was on PBS. Not sure how it would compare to the classic version. I also noticed your sweet Ralphie is in both of them.. and evil Edmund AND Ralphie too.. ha. That sounds like quite a combo for sure. I'll have to see if I can at least watch the one I found.. and will keep an eye out for the other sometime. ***She had a sort of inner stillness that was almost frightening. Like she was all balled up tight inside, with no emotion left. Like she'd cried and wept and beaten herself up over it all for so long that there was nothing left but a body, a body that stood and walked and talked if it had to, but the soul really wasn't there *** I think you have described her very well.. she (as a person) more or less was gone. and all you see by the end was just the "leftovers" of what she ended up as.. very tragic indeed. Oh and ps.. I liked your idea of a "Gladys" day next year.. or even a "Gladys" evening sometime would be good. (are you reading this oh great TCM programming Guru??? ha) I am not too familiar w/ her at all.. but I did look her up.. she did not have a really HUGE career, and sadly died at a fairly early age ( at least I have to call it early as I am teetering on the brink of turning fifty all too soon myself, ha.) But if this performance in Madame X is any indication.. she'd be one to look out for in other films, to be certain. Edited by: rohanaka on Aug 1, 2013 3:49 PM

Hi there Jackie.. RE: BTW it need not make any sense for me to enjoy it ***Ha.. I know exactly what you mean.. sometimes there is a NEED for a movie to "make sense" but if the story is inherently 'fantastic" that way.. "sense" is optional, so long as the plot and characters are interesting. Why just yesterday I took the kidling to see Turbo.. ha. That movie is one where you TOTALLY have to suspend all belief to enjoy it.. but hey.. if you CAN just "go" with the whole concept of an accidentally genetically enhanced SNAIL racing in the INDY 500.. ha.. its really a fun movie!) So yeah.. "sense" is optional sometimes.. it just depends on the story and characters.. and BTW delivers if only w/ the characters.. they really are an interesting mix.*** He can play the most despicable characters ever born, then turn around and play Santa ***Now you have my attention, for sure. I am trying to imagine Edmund as "despicable" ha. I know I have seen him in several films.. and some where he was not as "loveable" as Santa.. ha.. but I don't ever remember him as being that awful.. hmm.. I will have to check into those two titles you mentioned, if only to see the "evil" Edmund. ha**I saw Madame X the other day, and I have to say Gladys George was just magnificent. She poured her heart out here, and gave a tremendous performance ***I am so glad you got to see it.. and yes.. I agree.. "poured out her heart" is a great way to say it. And it DID ring "true".. a very genuinely tragic feel.. no "put on" in sight.**** Most actresses (and most people) are vain creatures, and when an actress can get to the point of not caring what she LOOKS like, that's when the real acting begins. The way she let Henry Daniell into her room, she was beyond caring about what happened to her, beyond worry for herself... she was numb, and I think wanted to die. For an actress to find that truth, despite looks, despite anything else, well that's acting of the finest order. There aren't too many who ever achieve this, and Gladys George is one of the very few *** Well said, kiddo. She just completely let herself "sink" into that character. It wasn't even about make up and hair, etc.. it was even in the way she just carried herself.. and even just standing still without uttering a word, she had such a vacant and hopeless demeanor.. you could tell she was not just "down" but "out" and she'd gone about as far as she could go in both directions.

Miss G.. sorry you missed Madame X.. hope you can catch it, .. would love to hear more from you on it sometime. (But am glad to hear that Butter T got it recorded.. hope both you gals will chime on in when you get a chance)

Mimi, I thought the husband in this "37 version did a good job of showing how a "realistic" person might act.. he was angry.. and he lashed out.. but he calmed down and regretted his hard choice, and tried to make it right. And he was genuinely devastated (I think both out of shame for his own actions .. and love for her) when he found out the depths she had fallen to later on near the end. And re: the 50's version.. I bet you are right about the husband in that one.. I don't even REMEMBER him. (sorry John Forysythe, ha) I mean I do remember there was a HUSBAND.. but I don't remember anything about him. But I do remember Lana.. and she did a good enough job, I think. But I just think that Gladys really owned this role.. and the other characters were very well played too.

Helloooo there Miss G.. Sorry to drag an older chat back up here.. but I wanted to chime in a bit more on Gladys George and Madame X.. I hope you got to see it (or at least record it today) I got a chance to watch it all the way through this time (since I had missed the very beginning when I watched it the first time) and I have to say.. it gave me an even DEEPER appreciation for her character and what she suffered. *** At the risk of committing a big SPOILER here.. and of also quoting myself.. if you will permit me to bring this part of the original conversation back up again.. a couple of weeks ago, Rohanaka said: You know, one of my most favorite themes in any good story is repentence. But I think for Madame X.. it was more about regret, rather than repentance. And her regrets were so great, they were too harsh a thing to leave behind.. so she held onto them instead, She almost wore them like a "scarlet letter" that she felt she deserved. (maybe. I don't know.. that is just how I see it)*** Anyway, I guess I am saying that in her mind.. her wrongs were so "WRONG" that she did not deserve forgiveness.. and she did not deserve to be happy. So she punished herself by giving up. (completely) and just "existed" instead. I'm not saying she was right... I'm just saying that is how she seemed to think. She'd lost her only chance to love and be loved, and now to keep from ruining her son's life (in her mind) she figured that he (and everyone else) was better off if she just crawled into the gutter and stayed there.... So she did. So sad *** And now after TODAY (again, I must worn of "SPOILERS) I must say that with regard to that whole was it "repentance or regret".. I think it was BOTH.. because it was NOT just about her being sorry for what she'd done and living a life of misery to punish herself for it all (the "regret") though certainly that does play a huge part of it. It is ALSO about repentance too. Because she wasn't sorry for getting "caught" she was truly sorry.. even before she knew her husband knew about her affair. And she had turned away from the adulterous life and wanted to leave it behind and start over (the repentance) And that happens even before her "boyfriend" gets murdered.. she was breaking it off with him.. she even told him something like, "I don't like myself anymore" She was genuinely sorry and finished with their relationship.. but she never got the chance to finish leaving him because fate stepped in (in the form of the jealous other "other" woman) And then when she tried to make ammends with her husband.. it just pushed her further back down the "regret" hill.. because I truly believe she WAS ready to leave her past behind and never go back.. but he refused to accept her ""repentance" and forced her into a life of "regret" instead. (ha.. is any of this making sense?? I doubt it.. but I guess what I mean to say is that had she been able to seek forgiveness.. or at least given a CHANCE to make ammends in some way.. she might not have ended up with such a sad ending to her story*** Because to me, what made it all the more tragic of a tale.. was the fact that her husband was not a "monster" but he was actually a good man who just got REALLY mad and made a bad decision out of anger. Rather than waiting until he cooled off a bit.. he let his anger make her bad choice even worse.. by forcing her to leave and never return. Aggh.. nothing is worse than to be truly sorry.. genuinely sorry and ready to make things right.. and then not be allowed to make ammends.. to never have the chance to know forgiveness. (And what makes it all the WORSE is that he DID eventually want to see her relaitionship (at least w/ her son.. if not with him) restored.. but by the time he was ready to forgive her and allow her back into their life.. she was long gone.. and it all just went downhill from there.*** Aggh.. talk about a wasted opportunity.. all because of bad choices.. first hers.. and then HIS too. I may need a tissue just thinking again of how tragic it all was. And then(as a result of these bad choices) to see the downward spiral of her life play out.. She really broke my heart just watching it all.

Butter T says: It took a lot of guts for Parker’s “Ann” to choose her own destiny…all for true love. That’s probably what I liked the most, was the romanticism and passion between Hendreid and Parker. They just couldn’t live or “not live” without each other if that makes sense ***It makes perfect sense, youngun.. and I think (if I remembering it all right) her willingness to sacrifice her own eternity just to be with him is what allows them both a second chance. It was one of those "no greater love hath any man (or woman) than to lay down their life, etc etc, kinda moments.. (maybe?) ha. I need to see it all again*** Edmund Gwenn was purely incredible as the ship’s steward with his own mysterious qualities *** I agree.. I don't remember it all as well as I would like, but I do recall this being a very good role for him. I always enjoy him in any movie, though. He's one of those old faves for me that when I see his name in the cast, I know its gonna be a good story. I enjoyed reading your comments on it all. And PS: I have not seen Outward Bound either.. so now I'll have to check it out too, sometime, if only to compare.

Hi there Little T.. I have not seen BTW in a long time.. but I do recall being drawn in to the various stories of each of the people and what their ultimate destinations would be (especially after they found out what "boat" they were on and why) It is one of those movies that you have to just sort of supsend all "belief" and not really think too much about whether something like this would REALLY happen.. at least not if one holds to traditional view of scripture on that topic. But if you can get past THAT aspect of it all, it is a very interesting tale.*** I would have to see it again to get too specific, or to say much more, but if I recall it all correctly, I do think they did a good job of hitting the various "types" of people (and their personalities) in the different characters. And I do reall I liked the ending a lot.. thought all the different characters ended up pretty much where they ought to by the time it was over. Will look forward to reading your thoughts on it all.

Thank you to the "Messsage Board Gurus" for creating the Kyle Archive.. that is a very nice way to remember him here. Much appreciated.

Jackie.. here is the Memorial Day thread.. this one was a personal favorite of mine. I will take no credit, but it was designed originally just for one particular occassion (in honor of an event on TCM one year) but he was gracious enough to bring it back (at my request) for the next several years.. I really admired the effort he put into it because it was just FILLED with so many very special images that are worth remembering. He had at least three different years, if I recall and would do a different theme each year, just for Memorial day. Again.. it is my personal favorite among his threads, and one that I truly will always remember as a very special connection to Kyle, because I was so grateful that he was able to put so much time into it for those several years in a row. (and I said this earlier, but will say again.. he was just that kinda guy)*** http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=142924&tstart=30 Edited by: rohanaka on Jul 18, 2013 10:45 PM

So very sad to hear of the passing of such a very dear person. I've always found Kyle's name (or 'Mr. in Hollywood, as I often liked to call him) to be a welcome sight on here whenever he would post. His comments were very thoughtful, intelligent, and well spoken; and his threads were always very informative (as well as entertaining) But more importanl than all of that.. aside from his wealth of knowledge about classic film and various other related topics... he was also a very courteous, genuine, and truly kind man to know (at least I always found him that way) He will be missed.. not only here on the message board, but I am sure, by all those who knew him well. He was just that kind of guy. God bless his memory, and God bless his family and loved ones as well.

Hi there Miss G.. regarding Gladys George and Madame X.. I think Mimi said it just right in her comment, you really can "feel her pain" She is just so obvious about it.. wearing it right out there on here sleeve. And the way even her physical appearance changes over time (not just with age) You could tell just by looking she had an absolutely, utterly, and completely broken heart. What a slow, sad (and really if you think of it) unnecessary death.*** You know, one of my most favorite themes in any good story is repentence. But I think for Madame X.. it was more about regret, rather than repentance. And her regrets were so great, they were too harsh a thing to leave behind.. so she held onto them instead, She almost wore them like a "scarlet letter" that she felt she deserved. (maybe. I don't know.. that is just how I see it)*** Anyway, I guess I am saying that in her mind.. her wrongs were so "WRONG" that she did not deserve forgiveness.. and she did not deserve to be happy. So she punished herself by giving up. (completely) and just "existed" instead. I'm not saying she was right... I'm just saying that is how she seemed to think. She'd lost her only chance to love and be loved, and now to keep from ruining her son's life (in her mind) she figured that he (and everyone else) was better off if she just crawled into the gutter and stayed there.... So she did. So sad.*** Miss G says: you just want to throttle the husband for being such a clueless ninny *** I missed the very beginning of this movie (at least a lot of that early part w/ the husband) so I don't know for sure what he was like.. but I bet he really let her have it. She HAD made some pretty awful mistakes.. so maybe he felt justified.. but I wonder what would have happened had she come back and truly was sorry. It might have depended on whether he loved her or not. (which again.. I did not see) He might have only wanted to punish her because he was angry.. but I think in time he did forgive her, because I remember there were some conversations about how he'd been trying to locate her again (and he seemed genuinely compassionate toward her at the end) *** Anyway.. it was a very sad, and tragic, and quite moving tale to be sure. I just saw where TCM is showing it again on the 29th of July (in the afternoon) so I am going to try and catch the whole thing this time (if only to see the beginning and put it all together from start to finish) (UGH.. that is if i can stock up on enough KLEENEX by then, ha)

Miss Goddess says: you know, the movie is just filled with people's misconceptions about themselves and each other and especially about their motives, isn't it? maybe that is the real reason the movie is so gripping to me. i like that almost everyone has to make some huge shift in their thinking about themselves and their responsibility toward others ***OH my goodness, little darlin' that is a great way to say it. Because you are absolutely right, in one way or another they all sort of had to rethink not only their own ideas about who they were (and in some ways, their motives too.) But I will add.. in some ways at least Bogie.. and possibly Gaye ended up rethinking their own self worth as well)*** And, yes.. they also had misconceptions about each OTHER (in terms of who they all "really" were and what they were "made of" as well. And the ones who did NOT rethink things more carelully paid the price with their lives.*** And now that you say this.. that sort of idea (of misconceptions about one's self.. and about others, too) also matches some of the themes I saw in the OTHER movie I watched this week (a couple of nights ago.. ha. it is my week to stay up late, I guess) because I watched the 1930's version of Madame X late the other night when it was on. And several times throughout that whole STORY it pretty much was about that very subject.. people's misconceptions (first about themselves.. and then also others.)*** Talk about (to borrow your word) "gripping" that film about tore me up. ha. (I have seen the Lana version of this one years ago.. and thought it very good.. but I have to say, THIS version of the story really just almost did me in.*** She absolutely believed her son (and prettymuch the whole world) was better off without her (because of mistakes in her past) and rather than try to work her way back from that point.. she went the OTHER way.. and believed she really WAS worthless.. and treated herself even worse than OTHERS had treated her.. losing her own self respect and absolutely, completely alone. (Oh me.. Very emotional.. utterly heartbreaking and quite moving too.. not only at the ending, but off and on throughout.) She gave up EVERYTHING.. but in the end got it all back (even if only for a moment) and yet she still could not outwardly claim it as her own. All because of those "misconceptions" earlier on in the story. Wowsa. Edited by: rohanaka on Jul 12, 2013 9:24 PM