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Bravo! Ms Favell.. and Miss Maven too!! Ladies.. you'd be knocking my socks off..ha.. if it weren't summer time and I wasn't already "sockless" ha. I love all your choices.. both the ones I HAVE seen (because you both picked some doozies) and the ones I haven't (because now.. I really WANT to see them) Some that stand out for me (from both of your lists, ladies): Jackie.. love your choices of: Margaret Livingston - The City Girl - Sunrise Pure carnal sex, used as a weapon of destruction. It's not enough to take your rival's man, you must inspire him to kill her, too That is beyond a shadow of a doubt THE best description I have ever read of her... ever. She was all of that and a little bit more, to be sure. And also loved your choice of : Annie Laurie Starr - Gun Crazy She wants to be loved, but has high standards and a low threshold for stupid people Ha! Patience really was NOT her strong suit, was it? Norma Desmond - Sunset Boulevard We all have a little Norma in us as we get older EEEEEEEK, perish the thought! Ha. (but yeah, still, I can see how that could be!) ha. And I REALLY love that you BOTH picked "Ellen" from LHTH.. OH my golly.. Miss Maven says: She is as beautiful as a Venus Flytrap. Whereas other lethal ladies are pathological liars, Ellen is a pathological lover. And when she loves you, it is all encompassing. There is no room for any one else and it is fascinating to watch her tighten her net around Richard Harland (CORNEL WILDE) to the exclusion of EVERYONE else. Her Pyrrhic victory was dastardly and she never looked more beautiful You have her pegged JUST right, little gal.. Good gravy what a living nightmare that Ellen was.. a human boa constrictor.. the more she loves you.. the tighter she squeezes until she has used up all the air (love) you might have had for her by all that squeezing. UGH! Oh.. and ps.. Miss Maven.. honorable mention has GOT to go to your picks of Veda... and Kitty too.. OH, my goodness me. That rotten Veda is the poster child for how NOT to raise children.. and Kitty.. well..ha.. I love to say it (ever since I saw that movie..ha) *Kitty is TOAST* (at least by the end of the movie anyway, yee haw!) Thank goodness BOTH those two gals got what was coming to them.. at long last. Oh me.. oh my. Edited by: rohanaka on Jul 7, 2011 10:36 PM

Glad to hear you are finally bouncing back, Mr. Movieman.. (and ps.. if you are feeling back to normal.. that is definitely for the "better" sir.) It is NO fun fighting those "germ-ans". Hopefully, I'll catch a wave Surf's up!! Hang Frank Grimes ( ) Ooops.. I mean Hang ten, Mr Movie Dude..

we are in big trouble, Ethel Don't sweat it, Lucy... ha.. your secret's safe with ME!! (As long as we don't try to steal John Wayne's footprints again... I think everything will be OK!) PS: Mr. Movieman.. laughter is the BEST medicine!! (hope you are feeling better, sir) :-)

Ah HA! I knew there was a method to your madness.. It's all clear to me now..ha. Glad to have you as the brains for our operation.. Ha.

Jackie.. what are you thinking??? This is the torture thread.. don't you have any pics of people in white that he DOESN"T like??? Oh wait.. here: (sorry.. I WOULD have posted one from his new favorite movie... Blood Alley.. but alas, I am too lazy to make a screen cap and all I have is a Donovan's Reef.. ha)

Travel Posters What?? No Kansas City????????????? (ha... kidding! Only kidding, sir!) What I REALLY wanted to say was that Addams Family/Baby Jane pic is a hoot!! Too funny!

Some people can list all day long and with little headache. Many others can not do what even you did, list just a few of your favorites. It is a hard task to accomplish Thanks for the encouragement, Mr. List King!! I appreciate the kind words. Hope you are having a stellar 4th, sir!! Enjoy!

Twilight Zone-a-Thon We watched several episodes yesterday, but today I have been going back and forth between "The Zone", Bewitched (on TVLand) and Law and Order (on TNT) ha.. what can I say.. I like to mix things up now and then.

I still can't feel sorry for a man like that, who at least had a mother who slobbered all over him, was popular in school, had everything handed to him including a beautiful wife. It really is hard to see how someone with "everything" could feel so empty. And yet.. not so hard to see.. if you think about what really makes for a "full" life. I think what is amazing about him is that he did NOT grow up so "shallow" as to imagine he WAS entitled to all of that. (ha.. there, Grey Boy.. do you like how I turned this around?) I feel sorrier for kids who grow up without money, usually because it's the absence of a hardworking father that often reduces families to destitution in the first place! Like it or not.. money IS a necessary thing in our society. Do we all NEED to be rich and cozy comfortable living our every moment to excess to be happy??? Not even close. (go ask my ice-cube tray loving kid... ha) But it IS a good thing to provide for ones family in EVERY way.. and money is certainly a part of that. I think the most important thing to give a kid is a solid foundation in life, and part of that includes a healthy perpective about who they are as a person(in the great scheme of things) and how they need to live to be a postive addition to the world around them. We already HAVE enough selfish "it's all about ME" people in the world. One of the best things you can teach your kids is that it is NOT all about them.. but certainly, it should be a lesson taught in and with love.. not one taught by neglecting them. The mendacity part we all can agree is wrong, but no way is it wrong for Big Daddy to give presents The bigger the bank book.. the bigger your wrapping paper and greeting card budget..ha. No need to be stingy... If you have the resources.. why not spend at least some of them on the ones you love. But THAT is the tricky part because it still it all depends on whether he is really giving you a genuine GIFT.. or if there are "strings" attatched. That really does define whether it is good or not for someone like him to buy you something.. because unfortunately.. he had a LOT of strings tied on to his packages. So in that respect, I am glad Brick had out those "nose-cutting to spite his face" scissors that I mentioned..ha. If only to show Big Daddy he COULD cut all those strings... because they were not the way to tie your family's love to you.. it must be something stronger. What a great discussion, I never knew it would get so knee deep I am really happy to see how well everyone has been able to add their own spin on things.. and we STILL managed to not fling TOO much mud as we spun our wheels.. HA. (And I am still not sure WHY I have so often felt like I did not like this movie..ha. I OBVIOUSLY have a lot of "love" in the mix of that whole "love/hate" thing I mentioned. Not "love" for the characters.. as in "I think they are wonderful people" but rather just really being intrigued by how STRONG the emotions are behind each of those characters. I mean, good GOLLY we have not even scratched the SURFACE on Big Mama! ha) Edited by: rohanaka on Jul 2, 2011 4:34 PM Edited by: rohanaka on Jul 2, 2011 4:37 PM

Ding! And it is "Round 47", folks! And the Grey Guy hits back! ha. I think you may be a little naive with her show. Yeah, she likes Big Daddy, but she's got the whipped cream with sprinkles and a cherry on top out. I think you'd have to watch the very first time we see Maggie. Maggie is so full of herself and caught up in the entire "game" and "show." And to that, Rohanaka says "UGH!" Boy.. talk about your one-two punches! (good thing I can stand to take a punch, now and then.. ha... at least a verbal one..ha. I wouldn't know the first thing about REAL boxing... ick.. ha) Boy, oh BOY! I am HATING to have to confess this... but there IS something to what you are saying here.. though I may not entirely agree. Now that I go back and look at some of what you are posting in your screencaps, I can see she is a bit "obvious" in some respects. ha. (I HATE when you do that) Her entire focus is to make sure her and Brick don't lose their piece of the pie. In truth.. I have only seen this movie just a couple of times.. and this last time I missed the beginning.. so I had forgotten some of the earlier scenes until you brought them up. But I still maintain that was not her "entire" focus. I think she DID know what side her bread was buttered on.. but I still think her biggest motivation was not the money. (I know.. call me stubborn.. you aren't going to punch me again, are you??) :p That's why I have been surprised by your not understanding and valuing what Brick is saying to Big Daddy Wellllllll... I think the biggest problem has been... in my "zeal" to "defend" Maggie (ha) I lost sight of needing to place more emphasis on the more important themes in the story.... because I DO NOT disagree with you about how Brick and Big Daddy needed to reconcile their whole "I really just wanted your love" issues. But I am wondering how much of all that was a part of what was really driving Brick through most of the movie... and how much of it just finally came out as they were letting all the emotions fly down their in the basement. I don't know. But it IS a big part of the problem they had with one another and it is a big part of what got fixed too, I think, after they were finally able to communicate. You missed the point. It's not about forgiveness, it's about what a person does. It's about buying back lost time with money and gifts. Is that really making up for not being a mother? I don't believe so And I would agree with you.. BUT I would ask you this... is a person who has made mistakes in the past and has tried to resume a relationship with people they have wronged always guilty of trying to "buy back" someone's love just because they want to give a gift now? It really all depends on whether there has been a true change of heart (on both sides) And again.. that would only be a question you and your family could answer. I guess what I was saying is that it doesn't always have to be a "pay-off" for someone to try and make up for lost time by seeking to give some one they love (and hurt) a gift... but I can see how it could LOOK that way.. or even BE that way.. depeding on the situation. I think it is a case by case thing... there is no blanket answer. It all depends on the individual people.. and what is motivating them. It's the time we spend together, not the money. A loving presence is worth far more than a gift-full absence I agree with that... no argument there. I still don't believe Brick is entitled to anything. It's up to Big Daddy to decide that. I'm not sure about this, but I believe Big Mama is the only who is entitled to anything. I don't buy into this "entitled" stuff You know.. "entitled" IS an ugly word. Maybe that is not the best way to say it. But I guess what I am saying (and obviously not as well as I should) is that.. he is a part of that family and should not be so willing to just toss away everything that comes WITH that position... everything including the money. (because I still maintain that for the majority of the movie.. he is acting like a self-pitying, judgemental jerk.. and his "I'm above all the mendacity" mindset was not some noble act so much as it was him just being disgusted and spiteful. When he and Big Daddy finally DO throw away all the "attitudes" they were clinging to.. and just started to really TALK about what was real.. that is when the true emotions and motivations behind what they were feeling started to come out. That's a fantastic question! I'd say they wouldn't come together without Big Daddy's situation And sadly.. I imagine you are right. His time really was short.. and it would have been SUCH a waste for Brick to have been looking down on that old man's grave and only WISHING he'd have had that basement talk with him.. "IF ONLY" is a horrible thing to have to face when it is too late to change things.

The Grey Guy says: ...Geez, I really am old-fashioned. The Movieman says: Things don't equal love. Too many things given spoils how special gifts can be. "No" is not a bad word. Ha.. it was so late last night, I totally MISSED that part of Mr. Grey's post.. you are spot on w/ your response, there Movieman... ha. (And PS "NO" can and should be (at times) a good Mama or Daddy's favorite word, ha. Good gravy, Mr. Grey.. you DO realize who you were talking to, don't you?? The "queen of thrifty".. ha. I used to let my daughter play with empty cereal boxes and instead of buying her those nice (expensive) wooden blocks to play with (when she was a toddler) I bought her 4 four packs of those 88cent plastic icecube trays to use instead.. which she did and LOVED every minute of it, by the way. Meanwhile.. down the street.. a gazillion other kids were likely rolling in "electronics" heaven with all sorts of toys that lit up and made noise.. and did everything but the hula to entertain them. The poor kidling didn't KNOW what she was missing when she was a toddler..ha, but even now to this day.. she is 8 and we STILL do not spend a lot of $$ on "fancy electronic" fun. Almost every toy she has i(or has ever had) is something SHE has use her imagination in order to make it do ANYTHING and as result.. she is a creative.. enthusiastic, bright and fun-loving kid (who RARELY ever uses the phrase, "Mom, I'm bored". (but sadly.. she is also less tech-savvy than she likely should be.. we are only just NOW learning our way around a computer.. together.. ha... So I guess that makes ME old fashioned too... ha.) And PS: Mr Movieman... isn't he looking for someone to measure up to his standards? If so, nobody that matters fits that bill and that galls him. He's embarrassed I think on the one hand, he believed his ONLY self-worth was in what he could earn for himself and provide for his family... and on the OTHER hand.. he expected them to be under his thumb for it. He wanted people to stand on their own two feet.. so long as they still did it the way he thought they should But then he created his own monster.. because by attatching his own self-worth to his money.. he no longer thought anyone loved him for himself and made it all about the money.. And yet I freely admit that I could be the one remembering it wrong too.. ha.. because.. well.. I am old.. and that is just how I am remembering things.) Edited by: rohanaka on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM

{font:Calibri}Maggie does wish to have Brick's love. I think she wants that the most.{font} {font:Calibri}Well that is pretty much what everyone seems to agree with, so HEY, we are getting somewhere, ha. {font} {font:Calibri}Brick definitely loves his father more than Maggie does{font} {font:Calibri}Well, he SHOULD. He’s his son. {font} Is she worried about Big Daddy not loving Brick or is she worrying about Big Daddy not leaving him anything? I think it is both, but read on and see why I think that is not a bad thing. Because, now see, this is where we go our separate ways. Because I don’t see her in as “dark” a light as you. You are making her motivation sound mercenary and sinister (on a baser level than what I think it was) True, she does want Brick get along with his dad as much for the money as for their relationship with him. But again, I don’t see that as BAD, but rather I see it as realistic. (because again, to have Big Daddy in your life, you also have his money) {font:Calibri}Maggie feels they must do as the others do{font} **I think Big Daddy likes Maggie's "show" more than those others. He knows what she's up to, but he finds her to be alluring and charming {font:Calibri}You know, All throughout the whole movie, she is trying to keep up appearances (perhaps in a somewhat obvious way), but it is all going on while she is trying to get Brick to work out his ISSUES. She doesn’t want their private issues with one another to be “all out there” for everyone, and yet, they already are. But just because of that, I don’t think she is trying to be “un-truthfully” nice to Big Daddy or put on a false show, just to win him over. She is in a fight (with Brick) for her life, (as his wife) and a completely DIFFERENT fight with her brother and sisterinlaw (and maybe even Brick in a way)for Brick’s birthright and it is a fight for their future. It is not that she values the money MORE than her marriage, or Big Daddy, or anything else. But she does understand that the money is a part of the “package” of being a part of that family. {font} You're right, she is honest to Brick. She tells him she grew up poor and didn't wish to be that again. I do respect her for that. REALLY??? Was that the ONLY thing you saw with regard to what I was talking about?? Ha. (oh you stubborn, stubborn, man) {font:Calibri}What SHOULD she have done? Just say, “Ok, Brick, honey. You win. Let’s go get a divorce and you can just go ahead and be as miserable as you want.” Because THAT is basically what he was wanting her to do, for pretty much the whole movie. {font} {font:Calibri}But would that have been the “honest” OR “loving” thing for her to do? She was trying to get him to see the HARM he was doing not only to himself but also to her if he kept on his present path. She loved him enough to fight with him when he wanted to give up on everything. But that doesn’t mean she wasn’t aware of the financial implications too (if Brick got his way). But does that make her more worried about the money than her husband’s happiness?? (just because she doesn’t want to be “poor again”? {font} {font:Calibri}Really, when you think about it, WHO in their right minds wants to give up what they are entitled to just because they are disgusted at how everyone else around them is acting about it? (only Brick) {font} {font:Calibri}Sure, he is tired of all the nonsense. (I think I already told you, if it were me, I wouldn’t last five minutes, ha. I’d be slapping those people around a bit) But really, there IS such a thing as “cutting off your nose to spite your own face” and let’s be honest, Brick had the scissors ready to start cutting. {font} {font:Calibri}I mentioned this earlier but will say it again, I am glad he was able to get down to the REAL man behind the misery. It took FOREVER for him to finally be that REAL person that he was trying to wash away by all that booze. Yes, he was hurting, frustrated, angry, disgusted, and maybe even scared. But FINALLY he was being REAL. (and I think ultimately, that is the one thing Maggie was waiting for: a good healthy dose of reality to sink in. Because THEN he could be reasoned with. Then he could truly talk about what was bothering him, and how they could either fix it, or move on from it.) {font} {font:Calibri}But really, it was his conversation with Big Daddy in the basement that ended up REALLY getting things down to brass tacks. So she missed OUT on some of it, ha. And yet, he came back up from that basement a REAL person again. {font} {font:Calibri}I have some experience with this (at least through someone else), but someone I know very well and am close to had some issues with her husband several years ago. He was hurt and angry by something some very mean and dishonest people in their extended family were trying to do (to him and his wife), and he became so upset and hurt by all of it, that it caused him to almost completely shut down. He was making some very bad choices (that were going to have some pretty permanent consequences) for him and for her and their marriage, SOLEY because he was hurting and did not want to listen to reason. It became so ugly at one point that she says he was like a total stranger. She couldn’t talk with him, reason with him, or even get anything out of him but a “brick wall” sort of response. It looked very bad for both of them as a couple for about a week or so. But THEN (finally) he saw through the fog of all that hurt he was in, and realized that what he was doing was NOT fixing the problem, but making it worse. And then after he was “in his right mind” again, he could be reasoned with. She said it was like someone “turning a switch” back on in him, and she knew she had her husband back. {font} {font:Calibri}That is how I see this whole thing with Brick and Maggie. {font} {font:Calibri}But getting back to Maggie and Big Daddy: {font} {font:Calibri}I think he finds her “real”. And that is refreshing for him. And as for knowing what she is up to, hmmmm. I think that is true, but our definition of what she is “up to” is different, ha. Because yes, she wasn’t BLIND to his money. But she also didn’t LOVE him for it either. And I don’t think his money was THE thing that was making her be nice or behave in any certain way toward him. I think if anything, the BIGGER show Maggie may have put on was for SIsterWoman and Goober. (as in, “I’ll show THEM”) because she clearly saw THEM as the threat that they were. And she was not going to let them pull anything over on her (or make her look bad in their attempts to make themselves look good) {font}{font:Calibri}She really didn't look to spend any time with me and my brother. Not until later. Does buying us gifts today make that better for us? Does that make her a mother to us when we were kids? With me, it doesn't{font} {font:Calibri}Well, I can imagine that was hard on both you and your brother, but I also imagine that is a choice she has had to live with as well. Parents are human. And they sometimes make mistakes. Should your mom get a “pass” on the way she treated you and your brother when you were younger?? I don’t think that is a question that anyone but you and him can answer. But I can say that if a person truly SHOWS they have had a change of heart and mind, and if the parties that were injured can see their way past the past (so to speak) there CAN be room for forgiveness and the start of a new relationship free from the baggage of things that no longer pertain to who everyone is NOW. But IF is a big word, I know. {font} {font:Calibri}I will go back to what I said earlier about this movie. You have honed in on what I think is THE most important theme in this story by the screencaps you are posting. I think this movie is MOST about Brick and how he eventually resolves his relationships with both his father.. and his wife.{font} {font:Calibri}It takes resolving the FIRST issue for him to finally be able to resolve the second. And he (and everyone else) is the better for it. {font} {font:Calibri}One thing I don’t know if anyone has touched on is WHAT would have happened if Big Daddy had NOT been dying? Would EITHER Brick OR Big Daddy have had their “moment” of awakening and finally gotten their heads on straight to talk things out? Sad that we often wait until moments like THAT before we try to fix the things we know are broken in our own lives and our relationships with other. But that is how it goes sometimes. {font} Edited by: rohanaka on Jul 2, 2011 11:30 AM because.. ha.. it was WAY too late last night when I wrote this.. and well.. doofy things can happen when you are writing way too late at night. HA! ;D

Mary Kate (Maureen O'Hara) wanted her "things" around her. She wanted to have her own home. But, ultimately, what she really wanted was for Sean (John Wayne) to understand her and to value her feelings and opinions. They needed to burn the money issue between them, together, before they could get on to what's most important. Once they got on the same page, they could really start to love each other. Ok.. this pains me to say it, but I do agree with your take on this aspect of TQM. ha. But.. with regard to Maggie.. and with regard to Brick.. and with regard to their whole situation.. I see nothing of TQM.. or some of the other comparisons you are making (at least one if them is from a movie I have not seen yet, though, so I can't answer to The Sundowners tie in) I think, for me I have always viewed Maggie's motivations as pretty simple. (and about 3-fold) 1) She is Brick's wife and wants him to start treating her that way. She loves him, but oh me oh my, she is pretty disgusted with all the stuff he is putting her (and himself, and everyone else) through and she is fighting back. Because... 2) She's a fighter.. and she is looking out for what is and should be hers and her husband's best interests. Because like it or not.. to have Big Daddy as a part of your life.. you have his money too. (and the reverse of that is just as true as well) She is not about to walk away from her (and her husband's) rightful standing in the family (and all that comes with it) just because Brick wants to yell and whine and look down his nose at all that "mendacity" going on around them.... especially when her husband is really just being a selfpitying jerk and clearly is not thinking about anyone or anything but himself and wallowing in his own misery. (And PS: Sure.. he ACTS like he's doing it because he is "above" all the greed and selfishness and disgusted by it.. but really.. he is just as selfish (maybe more so) than everyone else. Just for a different reason) And finally... 3) Not only does she love Brick, but she DOES love Big Daddy too, by the way. (and I think she likes him too, for the most part. And PS: he likes/loves her as well.. because she is not "for show" with her affection the way SisterWoman and Goober..and their little pack of "no-necks" are). Now does she think the sun rises and sets on that old man?? No. She is not blind... she KNOWS he can be a son of a _______ when he wants to be.. but to Maggie.. that is NOT the worst thing in the world and it is worth putting up with Because the WORST thing would be for him to turn his back on Brick.. (and her too by association) or for Brick to turn his back on ALL of them, and no one would be able to take it back out of foolish pride. So she ends up in a situation where she has to fight tooth and nail to keep things from escalating (on both sides of the fence between father and son) just to keep that from happening. Maybe I am wrong.. I am willing to admit that.. because I DO sort of have a love/hate thing about this movie.. so I may be remembering her differently than I should. But that is always how I have viewed her. Is she "perfect, pristine, and noble" in all her motivations? No.. maybe not. But she is honest.. at least about how she feels and treats Brick and his dad. You have to give her credit for that.

hope I haven't overrated it Not at all. It is definitely a "lesser known" that deserves a chance to be seen. (Oh TCM programmer gurus...... are you out there???) :-)

Yeehaw! I second the recommendation! I hope folks will give it a looksee. It is a very good story. (I recall the recent good gab we had on it in your Women of the West thread... at least I THINK that is where we chatted.. ha. We do move around a lot in here sometimes, ha)

You give that squirrel Harry Fabian all kinds of breaks for putting money above all else Dadgum, Miss G.. you stole my thunder, ha. I was already thinking that, but just had not typed it yet! ha. I would also throw that low-life TC into the mix as well.. ha. (good golly.. that man valued money so much.. he printed his OWN, bah) Double standards abound. (oh.. and this also reminds me a bit of his take on that whole Heathcliff and Kathy thing too.. ha)

Well its easy for me to spout off a bunch of titles of movies that I like in no apparent order and with little rhyme or reason. ha. But I just admire how well so many folks on here are able to get their lists organized and narrowed down.. and figured out, even. Even yours.. though you said was not in any order except alphabetical. still was quite impressive..and well thought out. I say again.. hats off to you. I'm thinking great minds think alike. Ha.. I am just riding along on everyone's coat tails (and loving it, ha) Call me a copycat. ha. But in the last few years, I have discovered more "new" movies to like/love/and enjoy than I even knew existed, all by just hanging out here (and gabbing w/ so many of the better read.. or should I say "viewed"? ha) folks "in the know" . This place (and you kind folks) are great for that.

I'm glad you found *A Canterbury Tale *on YouTube Well, don't be, ha. Because I DIDN'T! (bah) It was just three excerpts (that LOOKED like it was going to be the whole movie.. because the first one starts with the opening credits.. and they were all labled 1,2, and 3. I did get to see just enough of the movie to know.. I really want to find this one and see it all the way through. It looks very interesting (and I can see what you mean already about it being "poetic") I will keep looking kid. This one is on my "wanna see" list now for sure.

Did you catch THE H-MAN? I thought it was pretty cool, and looked great in color. Very hip and "culty" Dadgum, I passed it by. Tough break for me. It DOES sound cool too.. Who'da thunk it??? Better luck to me next time, ha.

she's quite adorable Ha.. good! She' does "adorable" well too. It's not as unrelentingly intense as *CoaHTR *or as negative Well, I will have to check it out sometime..ha.. and I guess I will just hold off on my "brick" order.. you know until I need to throw SOMETHING again. (at.. well.. you know.. at something and/or someone GREY) (oh... on second thought.. maybe I better stock up, afterall)

Thanks little darlin'..ha. But the Grey Dude did have it right..ha. I DO like to "run off at the mouth" I just never realized I had so many opinions on this movie before.. ha. But really.. I think it is more the characters that I am opinionated about.. and what made them tick. Anyway.. I do tend to blab.. I have no illusions. HA. (I am just glad you haven't thrown any bricks at me yet.. no pun intended! HA!) RE: The Long Hot Summer.. now I do confess.. I have heard of it, but may have avoided this movie in the past.. probably because I am such a marginal Newman person. (though I am with you.. he did have some blue, blue eyes.) Maybe I will check it out sometime... because I DO love Welles.. and I bet he did a good take on the whole "Big Daddy" persona. Oh.. and I love Angela too. (though I bet she plays a "detestable" gal in it.. ha. She is good at "detestable") :-) But oh.. do they all just sit around and yell at one another like in COHTR??? If so, I may have to stock up on a few bricks of my own before I watch it..ha. I will want SOMETHING to throw, I am sure! ha. (Because, you know me.. ha. I just take my movies way too seriously sometimes.)

*I Know Where I'm Going* Duh.. I missed it. Ha. (I forgot to warn the secretaries I was wanting to check it out..ha) ;-) I will check into that one sometime too. ha. (and ps.. I am going to TRY to get to ACT sometime this weekend.. but not sure if I can get to it or not) TOO much going on.. (but at least still a LITTLE more free time lately than usual.. ah summer) ha.

Re Dwight... He really did a very good job at being a really awful excuse for a human being. Not sure about him w/ regard to his music. (though I do remember a few of his songs from the 80's) But he COULD have had a career in the movies.. at least if he had stuck w/ the whole ****, "mean" old boy type role. RE: The BLOB!!!!!!!!! (Yeehaw) I had never seen this movie all the way through until tonight!!! And I have to say I LOVED it, though I must confess I loved it more for it's comical side (though I am sure at least some of that was not the intended affect when it was made) ha. My favorite bit.. when that old guy wakes up and can't decide on a helmet. ha. Maybe he needed to call those "What Not to Wear" folks to get a firm opinion on required fashion for an air raid/fire/civil defense emergency. Oh.. and the ending.. ha. Now that was the most fun of all because.. well.. I am NO "environmentalist" by any stretch of the imagination.. (so PLEASE no one get all in an uproar.. because I am joking here) ha. But OH NO!! "The world will be safe.. so long as the arctic stays COLD" ????????? EEEK! Talk about your missed movie sequel opportunites.. ha. I can see it now... *Return of The BLOB*!! (with an opening narration by Al Gore) Edited by: rohanaka on Jun 30, 2011 9:52 PM

Miss G says: I will say I can sympathize with Brick in his depression and the way it can paralyze you. And Jackie says: And truly, I think Maggie knows that Brick would be better off with something TO DO. Does she know depression? I think she does, but she is one who will fight it off tooth and nail...and I think Liz really gets this aspect of Maggie... she may seem like she's got a lot of confidence, but I do think she knows something of what it is to sink. And I think both you gals have hit on a major theme in this story that I never really considered. Depression can sometimes BE a second cousin to "self-pity" and I think Brick had BOTH of these going on to be sure. It is a VERY depressing thing to be totally disillusioned. He had lost his best friend, his profession.. and even his own identity. It doesn't get anymore depressing that than. And PS: Jackie, I think you are right.. Maggie knew the darker side of life and what it could mean to give up.. she was a survivor.. but she COULD have chosen a different path. And I think this goes back to what I was saying earlier about how you can really see the differences in their characters by the way they responded to what was going on in their lives.. She saw it as a reason to fight back.. he saw it as a reason to shut down and drive a wedge between himself and everyone and everything he thought had let him down. Very telling. Miss G says I understand him...and his "clicks", even if I believe he needs to slough off that inertia, that depression, ASAP or it will kill him. I am glad he was able to get down to the REAL man behind the misery. It really did look knip and tuck for him for quite sometime. Downward spirals can do you in, but I bet now he came out of that situation a FAR better (or at least stronger) person than he was when he went into it. (at least that is the spin I took on things by the end of the movie. ) And ps: Miss G.. I could never see you "Bricking" out the way he did, youngun. Tough stuff can get the best of us down.. but I never could see you getting bitter and mean and just giving up. You have way too much "Katie Scarlett" in you darlin'. You are feistier and stronger than you think, dear girl. :-) Ok folks.. as a side note, now.. ha.. is it just me.. or have I been imposing FAR too much "blabbage" on you for a movie that I claim to have (at best) a love/hate relationship with?? Now I need to re-examine my thoughts on that.. ha. I never dreamed I would have so much to say about it all.. ha. In the meantime I should sit down and shut up a while.. if only to give you rest from all my blah blah blah. But thank you for letting me blab. (Have I told you lately how much I have missed hanging out in here w/ you folks?) :-) Edited by: rohanaka on Jun 30, 2011 7:43 PM

No, not a title I am familiar with, but there are a lot of those.