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Right...I just wasn't sure who all was in the discussion...I don't even know if I was in it!
Not sure myself.. I went fishing for it and found pretty much where we started.. have not had time to go too deep into what all we said..but I do remember it was a FUN "walk on the noir side" (though a bit "swiss cheese ridden" from time to time).
http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?threadID=147635&start=1935&tstart=0
(oops.. actually.. I think my opening post is on the page just before the page that pulls up on this link. duh)
Who is also the same guy who wrote...Stagecoach
WAYYYYYYYYYY cool. ha. Three for three really good stories. I need to check him out and see what ELSE I have seen that he wrote, ha.
Edited by: rohanaka on Feb 2, 2011 11:40 PM
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I have seen it.. OH that low-life KITTY! Poor Edward G.
We had a long and lengthy chat on it here some time ago (at least some of us did.. Grey Guy.. Jackie.. and I think Maven and me, about a year or so ago.. I THINK) It is a TERRIFIC film. VERY Noir, ha. If that one is coming back up again.. I say yay.. I am SURE there is more to say on it, no doubt.
(and written by the same guy as Rawhide... who knew??)
Edited by: rohanaka on Feb 2, 2011 11:17 PM
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OH good gravy.. I am SUCH a slacker "thread hostess" around here.. I am so far behind on this thread I will NEVER catch up.. will try to read through it soon.. and likely will just have to wait for another chat before I could join in. Thanks for keeping the dust off the place for me, though, folks.
And PS: Miss G..
But don't forget next Tuesday is The Hanging Tree...The Hanging Tree... The Hanging Tree!!!
May I just say, *YEEHAW!!!*
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Hiya Little Darlin', I hope little Flixie is keeping your toes warm and toasty tonight, ha. :-)
I thought he played it pretty modern, almost like a guy today would act if put in that situation
That is a good comparison. I could picture him in a modern version.. sort of a corporate type and trapped in a high rise office building trying to come up w/ some sort of "escape" plan (like a back stair case or service elevator) or something. He was definitely a case of "east" meets "west" and still remains "east-ish", ha.
cute little girl
Wasn't she?? And I was GLAD when she finally started to ACT like a little kid. ha. (getting out through that hole, etc) That might have been one OTHER non-believable moment for me, ha because I was beginning to think she was on tranquilizers or something. ha. NO little toddler lasts THAT long in an enclosed space w/out busting loose or going ballistic. (or both. ha.)
Wow, I didn't think of that but if it were so, it certainly would have added a very interesting dimension to the story. But wasn't Marlowe assuming the sheriff's identity, and if Susan had just come from that same town, wouldn't she have known that he was not the sheriff?
Hmmm... I don't know. I THINK she was not there when he was acting like the sheriff (the first time when he fooled Ty and poor Edgar. She was out bathing.. so the first time she met him, she already KNEW he was a bad guy) I really need to go back and rewatch where she tells Ty HER story.. and then the part where they are discussing HIS story (and he is posing as the sheriff in front of the stage coach passengers) If he WERE the guy.. it might be that only Tyrone Power could have put it together. But again.. I MIGHT be wrong about all of it. I need to double check it again.
He was very similar, sort of mooching off of Garfield because it was easier to go that route than to work hard and straight.
Well who knew.. I had not EVER associated him with that sort of character before. I thought he did pretty well.. couldn't you just imagine if Gladys had showed up when he was out there in the dark w/ that shotgun.. "Abner, ABNER!".. (and seconds later everyone inside the cabin is like, "Hey.. was that a gunshot out there?") HA.. ok.. that is rotten.. but OH me.. that Gladys Kravitz.. not a JURY IN THIS WORLD could have convicted poor Abner on that if he had snapped, ha)
You know, like Grimes
tee hee!
Now THAT would have been even more interesting. You should have written this script, not Dudley Nichols
Ha.. perish the thought, little gal. I could NEVER make a good script writer.. as gabby as I am, all my characters would go off on these LONNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG drawn out tangent type soliloquies and the dialogue would be expanded beyond all reason and before you know it.. ha.. it would be a four hour EPIC, ha. (but I DO think it would have been a poignant moment for him to go down that way)
knew that would get you going
Ha.. you did warn me. OH my golly.. If he wasn't already pretty DOOMED (just for what he did to poor Edgar) I was DEFINITELY on the warpath with him for that. He got WAY so much better from Vinnie than he deserved, ha.
it's fun seeing two people not typical to the genre
I agree.. and "entertaining" was a good way to describe this film, too. I needed a good movie to just sit back and enjoy. Thanks again for recommending it.
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HOWDY there, Miss G:
Oh, poor, poor QT!!! Bless him for getting out and shovelling that...that...oh if I wasn't a lady just what would I call that STUFF.
Ha.. well... if you think about it.. "snow" IS a four letter word all on its own.
I hope he does listen in the future
To quote the Duke.. THAT'LL be the day. HA! Oh when will he ever learn?? ha. Actually.. I was as surprised as he was that they canceled at his work like that. He has worked there OVER 20 years and they have NEVER done that, not even once. I told him to make sure he gives them the RIGHT phone # to call next time... but ha.. given their track record, "next time" might not come for ANOTHER 20 years. ha.
(Oh..and PS: thanks for the Donovan's Reef!!!
I bet the Grey Dude is beside himself with joy for THAT one, ha) PS: Jackie.. 2 inches of ICE!!!!!!!!!! Yikes. I am glad Andrew got to stay home w/ you. And what an industrious guy working on those taxes. We are not brave enough to do them ourselves, ha. We are going to make the professionals handle it for us later this week, ha. Hope you all are staying warm and toasty up there in CT. Eat a pizza roll for me! ha.
So OK.... down to business.. but first.. a musical break: (because THIS is always the FIRST thing I think of when I hear the word "RAWHIDE", ha.
*Serious RAWHIDE Spoilage* :
Miss G, thanks for recommending this one. I had never seen or likely even HEARD of it before and I can't say it would rate REALLY high on any sort of favorite western list.. but I did like it a lot. (I was in the mood for a good old fashioned western, and this one fit the bill quite nicely.)
Just the right mix of "gritty" and suspenseful.. a GOOD good guy.. (woowee.. TYRONE) and some REALLY rotten, low down, snakey.. (even if Hugh was kinda "gentlemanly") bad guys. OH that JACK ELAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I will get back to him in a minute) And as for SUSAN.. well.. she was not your typical "prairie flower" sort of western gal.. but gee... she really FIT for the sort of character (with the sort of background) that she was playing quite well.
And I really liked the angle that Tyrone's character was NOT a "cowboy" at heart. I thought that added an interesting mix to things.
From the start he makes it clear to Buchanan he wants no more of "learning the business" and wants to get back east. He's a civilized guy, not a dirty barbarian. I don't blame him.
His daddy runs the stage line. He seems to have been sent out west to teach him the business and, presumably, to "make a man out of him" if Buchanan has anything to do with it.
I bet he was a bit of a "spoiled" kid when he was younger and I bet you are right.. he had some "growing up" to do when he first got there.. and it LOOKS like (by the time the story starts) he had gotten some "smarts" about him but his heart was still WAY back East.
The Grey Guy says: Power projects a kind of confidence. He seemed to be in control even when he wasn't. Gary Cooper is an actor who does a good job of projecting a lack of control, even helplessness. Man of the West is a great example of this. Again, that's another "captive" film that has so much going for it compared to Rawhide. just didn't sense the worry and anxiety from Power as "Tom
I kinda think Man of the West would be a good comparison, but only in terms of it was about a man (with an unrelated woman who was also a hostage)trying to outwit a band of bad guys with no way to get help, etc, etc. But I am siding w/ Miss G in that I though Tyrone Power did a pretty good job of showing his frustration.. he might have LOOKED cool.. but he was only trying to look cool for the BAD guys.. I think for the rest of us.. (at least for me.. i saw the worry behind it) He just has a different way of projecting it than Coop, I guess. Both movies were about two guys trying to figure out how to stay alive and knowing they were hands of ruthlses murderers, but you are right the comparison sort of stops there as they were completely different sorts of leading men with totally different backgrounds and very dissimilar ways of problem solving. I thought Powers did a better job (than you thought) of showing the stress and anxiety.. but he just had a different way of handling it.. and he also had a different way of using it to motivate him too. And I found it very interesting (and unexpected) how Tom looked at what needed to be done for them to get over on the badguys. Instead of looking for a way to "pick off" the bad guys one by one (sort of like Randolph Scott in The Tall T, if I am recalling the right movie) or instead of getting them to bicker amongst themselves as a distraction (again.. if I am remembering right.. wasn't that an angle Coop used in MOTW?) or even instead of just trying to find a way to use "brute force" and overpower one of them to get their gun (like so many OTHER western movies I can't even begin to name them all, ha) .. he went about it in a an ENTIRELY different way. (First w/ the note to the stage coach driver and THEN with the whole "knife" thing.)
OH me.. when he snatched that knife.. that was THE last thing I ever expected him to do with it) He went a whole different route.. and even though NEITHER of his plans really panned out.. I thought it said a LOT about his character that he was going to use every resource he could think of to try and save not only himself, but Vinnie and Cali too. Pretty interesting twist on a "standard" western storyline.
OH and PS: (as a side note regarding that KNIFE) My one GASP moment (of disbelief) in the film was when that little baby picked up that knife and Susan just STOOD there. YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I absolutely could NOT believe Vinnie did not pick it up right away (if only to look like she was acting ?natural? especially when Elam?s character showed up. I mean REALLY. (Granted, it was TOO dull to CUT anything, but how was she SUPPOSED to KNOW that????? What sort of ?mother? just lets her kid wave a knife around and not try to stop it? Ha. Even Jack Elam should have figured that SOMETHING was up because he did not know it was ?blunt? either until after he picked it up himself. And yet he was TOO stupid not to suspect SOMETHING when he saw a ?MOTHER? standing next to a little baby who was holding a dadgum machete in her wee little hand and waving it around like it was a TOY )and the mom did NOT freak out!!) But I digress, ha.
Zim's character could have had greater depth. He was wronged by a woman, so there is something to play off of with that
I found him a bit TOO "pleasant" as he was being threatening. He did not have as much edge to him as I thought he should have had to be as determined as he was. (and PS.. did I infer the wrong thing.. was his story about being convicted of murder the SAME story as Vinnie's sister and her husband??It sort of sounded VERY similar. Is he THEIR murderer??????? Even if Vinnie might not have been aware of it.. I think she was dealing w/ the very man who killed her sister and brotherinlaw.. but I might be wrong. I might need to go back and re-watch it.. but it sort of SOUNDED like that to me.
And WHAT about the "gang" of bad guys.. OH me.. First of all. I about fell out of my CHAIR when I saw Abner Kravitz with a mangy beard and a shot gun, ha. WHAT a different route he MIGHT have gone w/ his career if he'd have stuck with THAT sort of character. But I thought he did alright.. not totally HEARTLESS... but pretty much just a "follow the leader" sort of bad guy.
And POOR Yancy.. I LOVED his ending in the story.. What a surprise too. I figured he'd have gone down protecting that Baby from Elam.. I am glad he ended up the way he did because I REALLY do think he was NOT a killer nor a true MEAN person... just a simple minded "take what I need when I need it" sort of thief who fell in with a bad crowd. He was too sympathetic to wish any harm on, for sure.
Unlike.. a certain BEADY EYED MONSTER of a thug such as ELAM's character.. OH my goodness. I say again.. it is a GOOD thing Susan got to him first because when he started taking pot shots in that baby's direction.. I was about to crawl through the computer screen and deal with HIM myself. I'd have torn him apart bit by bit and there would not be enough SUPER GLUE in the world to put him back together again when I was finished. Oh for pity's sake. (did I mention he was a MONSTER???????)
Miss G says: interesting, "I Want To Live" is the name of a huge Susan Hayward hit movie
Ha.. good catch, little missy. I caught that too. In fact, I yelled at Tyrone after he said it.. "HEY! Didn't you watch the movie? Susan wants to live TOO!" ha.
Her hardness is such a contrast to her soft features. It does help her in western roles, though. She'd need that kind of spunk to survive
She WAS hard in this film for sure. That fight between her and the men when she wanted to get on that stagecoach was very telling. OH and before that when she tells them (at the table) she is a MISS and not a MRS. (no apology or explanation to ease their minds on what they were led to think about her at that point) That was one tough cookie to be sure. But I think it FIT her character in this film very nicely. And I like how she DID have a heart (under that tough exterior) once Ty (and we) got to know her. All in all, aside from the one little ?knife? moment of ?disbelief? I had, ha, I thought she did very well.
Edited by: rohanaka on Feb 2, 2011 3:12 PM
Edited by: rohanaka on Feb 2, 2011 3:19 PM
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Thanks everybody.. we are ok. But BOY did we get socked a good one yesterday. I don't even know if they can measure how much snow we actually got because of all the wind. It is drifted everywhere. I-70 (one of two major interstates that cuts through KC) is shut down (or at least was.. don't know if it opened yet) from Independence (which is the middle eastern part of KC proper) all the way to ST Louis. It is sunny today.. but OH me.. the windchills. SUBZERO for sure.. and not supposed to improve all day.
Ha.. Jackie. I like the pic w/ the horses.. not sure if we are quite up to that much snow or not.. but maybe close, ha. You know.. my dad was in the army and we Iived in Alaska for three years when I was a kid and I KNOW we had snowfalls and weather like this there and it did not seem to be so "eventful" ha.. but GEE.. this is a big deal in this part of town. (And I mean.. this IS Missouri so, we do get snow off and on all winter. but this beats pretty much anything I have seen around here in quite some time)
So anyway... my beloved QT decides to go to work today, despite the roads and my earnest pleas to stay home. He persevered, made it there safely, & found out they closed due to the weather. (WOULD have been nice if they called the right phone # to tell us instead of his cell that he never uses except to call me) ha. He is the hardest working man I know.. but he is ALSO hard headed, Or I guess I should call it.. determined, ha. I love him for it.. but BOY oh boy.. I think I am going to get a LOT of mileage out of this one.
(which will make me feel ever SO much better considering ALL the many "gotcha's" he has gotten on ME over the years, ha)The moral of this story (and my new catch phrase) ALWAYS listen to your wife. At any rate.. he STILL got to work.. even when he came back home. Here he is out in the driveway.. and it may not LOOK too deep, but keep in mind.. this is the snow that fell lastnight AFTER the drive already got cleared once yesterday. (you can sort of see how deep it is if you look at the wheels on the silver car.. deeper than it looks)
Here is looking out our back door.. our deck is between our house and a big metal out building.. the snow drifted up between there pretty good. (about waist high in places) Here is a low spot where Amos (the cocker spaniel) was able to get over so he could go out and do his "doggie business, ha) He has a LOVE/HATE thing w/ the snow.. he does NOT want to go out when you first open the door.. but then we he DOES finally make it.. he does not like to come in. He is jet black.. but when he comes back in from outside.. ha.. he looks decidedly "sugar coated" ha.
You can see the grapevines in the picture.. the bottom 10 or so inches of that fence is in the snow.
Ok.. enough adventure. ha. I stayed up lastnight and watched Rawhide on youtube.. I will be back in a while with a bit more, but will say for now that liked it a LOT.. but OH that Jack Elam.. He is DEFINITELY lucky that Susan got to him first!!! Miss G.. you were so right.. He CERTAINLY got on my "Mama" badside for SURE.
Edited by: rohanaka on Feb 2, 2011 11:03 AM
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Hi folks..
just popping in for a moment to see what is going on and will be back a bit LATER, I hope.I am expecting to get to Rawhide maybe sometime later this evening and then I will try and get a chance to read back through all the comments too.
RIght now, I am too busy w/ keeping the kidling from climbing the walls right at the moment.. it is definitely a MESS out here in the great state of Missouri... snowday, shmowday.. It could be a SNOW MONTH at the rate we are going! And the poor kidling is beside herself.. Just think.. ALL that snow (huge HUGE piles of it.. and still coming down.. and it is WAY TOO cold to even THINK about going outside.. the very idea.
In the meantime.. if you hear a muffled cry for help coming from this part of the midwest.. it is me.. buried under a snow drift.
PS: Ollie.. this is for you:
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I just ordered that same exact toy mouse from Amazon earlier tonight
Great.. now he will have a "spare" for when the first one gets lost under the couch or something.. ha. Tell him his "Autie Kathy" will get him some "catnip" in the next one! ha. :-)
Hope the snow misses you ALL together, little gal. You NY folks REALLY have gotten pummeled lately. Stay warm and cozy if you can.. bundle up and batten down those hatches, young'un.
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Howdy little darlin'.. I hope you don't get socked TOO hard. I bet you are REALLY sick of the snow by now (you folks got QUITE a bit more than we did this past month and WE got enough, for sure)
Kansas City is so spread out it really depends on what part you live in (sometimes) as to what sort or "mess" you end up with when we get a storm like this. Some of the school districts in our area have had 5 or 6 snow days already from the two storms we already had (there are a lot of rural areas around here with a LOT of back roads, etc) Most of the districts have had at least 3 or 4 snowdays. Depending on how well they have predicted things this time, I am fully expecting we will get at least one or maybe even two days off this week (ugh. there goes the paycheck) but I guess we will wait and see what happents.
Enjoy the brownies.. I'll make more, ha. (and maybe next time will even include some hot cocoa too.. we need all the help we can get to make it through the mess out there, ha)
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Sorry to interrupt.. just saw that I am LATE to the party! Happy 24 K, Miss G!!!!!!! I think by now that cake Pappy had is all but gone.. so here is a little something more: BROWNIES FOR EVERYBODY!!
Oh.. and Flixie deserves HIS own special treat TOO! :-)
And PS: I am expecting to have a little time off this week from work (if the BIG HUGE GARGANTUAN and COMPLETELY HIDEOUS DISPLAY OF SLEET, ICE, and SNOW hits us the way it is SUPPOSED to) so I am HOPING to get to that youtube of Tyrone and Susan soon. I will look forward to reading everyone's comments about it! (yeehaw) :
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Ten films with hanging scenes :-)
I have seen all of the ones on your list except 2 (I have not seen Billy Budd nor The Dirty Dozen)
I am a lousy list maker but if I WERE to make a list, I'd have to have the OxBow Incident at # 1 just because aside from being an EXCELLENT film, that is where I got my now "infamous" (ha) trademark "Frozen Rope" bit.
I also like the big "hanging" scene that I posted the cap for from Hang Em High not because I am that big a fan of the film, but because I love the one man who gives the great "mini-sermon" just before his sentence gets carried out. That is a great scene.
So let's see.. along w/ the ones on your list (that I have already seen)... hmmm.. I would also add a few more..
*The Furies* (pobrecito Gilberto!)
*Mississippi Burning* (because the QT and I love the part near the end where they find the one city official guy swinging in the basement and Willem Dafoe says something like "his name wasn't even on the list" and Gene Hackman tells him it was because (if I recall) a guilty conscience (it has been a LONGGGGGGGGGG time since I saw that movie)
Oh.. a recent addition would HAVE to be: *The Prisoner of Shark Island* (OH my golly when they are walking all the condemned prisoners out and Mrs. Mudd is waiting to see if her husband is among them.. YIKES!!
And an honorable mention goes to *House By the River* though not REALLY a "necktie party" in the TRUE sense of the word (since the curtain rod breaks, if I recall) ha.
And one more that I remember from a film literature class I took in college... this is not really a "feature film" but I saw this WAY back in the dinosaur days (before we all even THOUGHT about having VCR's in our houses let alone all the OTHER technology.. and it is quite a moving (and VERY thought provoking short film. I found it by googling (because I could NOT remember the title) and I was surprised to find it was ALSO shown as an episode of The Twilight Zone (and I can see why) Yo.. Grey Dude.. this one is right up your alley. (only about 25 minutes long, so not too long to watch)
*An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge*
http://www.viddler.com/explore/nzgmediefag/videos/12/
I am sure if I sat here a bit longer I could come up w/ more.. but will stop for now. It is getting late and I have a couple of chores I need to get to.. we are getting ready for a MAJOR winter storm to hit the next few days and I gotta go lay a few ropes out to be sure they get good and FROZEN,
HA! You know, my arsenal has been dwindling a bit since I have been so busy and have not been able to keep up w/ things lately. I am restocking now because you just never KNOW when I may need to make a "persuasive argument" with somebody (not mentioning any names of course) over something GREY -
That doesn't make you shiftless
Maybe not.. (and may I just say "whew", by the way.. because golly.. if folks started saying I was acting like YOU.. ha.. that would be the end of the WORLD for me, HA)
But gee.. missing out on all the chats DOES keep me from blabbing the way I like to... And OH woe is me. I have been too busy lately. I miss hanging you around here.. I mean hanging out around here. HA!
But hey.. at least you all are getting some peace and quiet finally for a change and you can even get a word in edgewise.. because you know me. ha. When I am on here too much, Blabbage is my middle name. ha.. ok. I am making that part up.. but it SHOULD be my middle name, for somewhat obvious reasons, alas. Ha. :-)
If musicals were like the two I watched, I'd like them. But I know better
Well now I HAVE to see them for sure... if only to get a better picture of the Frank Grimes mindset, ha. (the man.. the myth, the mystery.. ha)
Well.. I am off to hit the hay..
PS: REY... thanks for letting me hang out a moment or two in your thread... It was good to get a chance to gab a bit.. if only to get a few good "slaps" in on Mr. Grey. (I would not want to get out of practice, don't ya know)
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Fair enough. I have been SO far behind in my own movie watching lately I cannot point fingers at ANYONE, ha
And I am proud of you for expanding your horizons so well. I like musicals well enough but I can't say they would be in my MOST favorite genres. I will have to check into the two you mentioned.. as I have not seen them. (but at the rate I am going it will likely be this time NEXT year.. ha. OH me.. pretty soon you will have to start calling ME Shiftles.. perish the thought)
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I guess that makes it my favorite musical, too
Well.. this IS the "favorite list" thread. ha. Oh brother.. I would LOVE to see your favorite musical list if THAT would be your #1.. ha. (Because calling that movie a musical is like calling chocolate pudding a dairy product. ha. Hey.. it has milk IN it.. it must be dairy)
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I'm being railroaded! Everyone knows I'm the sweet and innocent one!
Everyone? Well that explains it.. ha.. because I am NOBODY. ha. No wonder I didn't get the memo.
Such harshness! And I'm nothing but kind and loving
blah blah blah.
My favorite western has a necktie party. It's my favorite one, too
And I guess it would also be your favorite movie w/ harmonica music in it too..........
Edited by: rohanaka on Jan 30, 2011 1:45 AM
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You're trying to get me hanged by everyone around here!
You are doing a MIGHTY fine job of that all on your own!!
EXHIBIT A:
He's the only one who has love stories in westerns! What a wuss!
Denver Pyle? Uncle Jessie?
It's been a LONG time since we had us a necktie party around here.. hey.. now THERE's a list for ya.. Favorite Westerns w/a Necktie party in them.
(not my FAVE necktie movie.. but the only one I had a quick and ready picture from.. ha)
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Or just a whacked out freaky one, anyway
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That wasn't my list!
WAIT a minute.. I just went back a few more posts.. FOR shame, trying to pull a fast one on me. Liar, liar pants on fire.. (and if they aren't.. I DO have access to some matches and I think I MIGHT even find a blow torch out in the QT's shed out back so I COULD arrange it.)
So what gives with all the LOVE for the Duke??? Are you having a mental breakdown or something???????????
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Ok.. now I feel better. I was afraid I had ended up in some sort of whacked out freaky alternate universe or something.
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Yo.. Grey Dude:
10. Hondo (John Wayne) and Angie (Geraldine Page) in Hondo
9. James (Gregory Peck) and Julie (Jean Simmons) in The Big Country
8. Marlowe (John Wayne) and Hannah (Constance Towers) in The Horse Soldiers
7. Matt (John Wayne) and Sammy (Betty Field) in The Shepherd of the Hills
6. Ringo Kid (John Wayne) and Dallas (Claire Trevor) in Stagecoach
5. John T. (John Wayne) and Feathers (Angie Dickinson) in Rio Bravo
4. Will (Gary Cooper) and Amy (Grace Kelly) in High Noon
3. Quirt (John Wayne) and Penny (Gail Russell) in Angel and the Badman
2. Kirby (John Wayne) and Kathleen (Maureen O'Hara) in Rio Grande
1. Marty (Jeffrey Hunter) and Laurie (Vera Miles) in The Searchers
7 out of 10 are DUKE characters???? And 8 out of 10 are Duke MOVIES?????????????????????????????????????? What IS the world coming to, anyway!!
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OHHHHHHHHH Good gravy.. just LOOK at what I have been missing out on in HERE!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I have to go back through and see if I can catch up on all my reading. (and that is not to mention watching the MOVIES too.) Oh me.. I did see that at least one of them (was it KC Confidential?) had a link to youtube.. that will help. But OH me..I will just need to make the time to watch it)
And I will have to go check out the others you have all brought up too (especially 99 River Street) At this rate I am going to be the one getting called "shiftless" around here (PERISH the thought)
UGH.. I am such a slacker.
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Sorry to interrupt any ongoing chats here folks.. just want to say that I (FINALLY) got to watch Prisoner of Shark Island this past weekend. (OH ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Miss G: this is what you had to say about Jackie's excellent opening post of this film:
Wow, wow
WOW!!
And may I just add: WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now realy, I most likely need to go back and re-read some of you thoughts, Ms Favell.. but after just skimming through them again this morning, Miss G was right.. Wow is the word for it. You really had a good grasp on the film and it's characters.
And I agree with your take on Carradine's performance... Oh, how I HATED him and yet I TOTALLY understood his emotions and his treatment of the man he THOUGHT betrayed our country and assisted in the murder of one of our most BELOVED president's... OH me.. what a story) I liked the resolution for his character at the end.. it was unexpected.. but it shows he was not just a flat, onesided "type" of character but really a PERSON who had real emotion and at least SOME sort of reason as the motivating force behind what he was all about.
And of course the lead role.. Dr. Mudd... VERY inspirational. I really had not heard much about his story and how he had been caught up in the hysteria following the Lincoln assassination. I had never really even heard his name much at all (except maybe in passing) but the QT has studied that whole incident (with Lincoln and Booth, etc) a bit more and he knew the name right away. I don't know how much of this film was historical and how much was dramatized but wow.. what an amazing tale.
Also loved Harry Carey's role.. again, what a pleasant surprise. So often "prison" officials (especially in films for this era) are just portrayed as "authority" figures or punishers.. these guys were shown as REAL people. I liked that a lot.
And OH that Buck.. what CAN I say about him?? OH me. I REALLY loved his part in the story. I was FLABBERGASTED when he showed up at the prison.. and his whole part in the tale was just so moving and truly humbling when you think of what he was sacrificing in order to come to the aide of Dr. Mudd and his family. He COULD have chosen to forsake his previous life (once out of Mrs. Mudd's home) but he had a family of his OWN to think of (for one thing) but I do believe there was more to it than that. I am sure I am not saying this as well as I would like, but he seemed to have genuine respect (and even love) for Mudd and it seemed as if he was there as much of his own free will (as he was under the direction of his "master") Very amazing.
I have no idea (and am not really worried) how historically accurate any of this film really was, but I TRULY enjoyed The Prisoner Of Shark Island a LOT and found it very moving. (The QT watched with me as neither of us had ever seen it before) Thanks for bringing it to my attention (and thanks to a friend for getting a copy to me so I could watch it) It had been on my list of "wanna sees" for a while but am glad you brought it into the spotlight for me so I could get a chance to check it out. What a truly amazing story.
Thanks for letting me interupt a bit here...
And NOW.. if I can JUST get time to watch GIANT... ha. then I will be THAT much closer to finally catching up with some of the older chats I have missed out on lately. (but then, of course.. I will still have to catch up on all the NEWER chats... and by the time I do that THEY will be older chats too.. oh me.. so many movies.. SO LITTLE TIME! )
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And here's to the other birthday girl this week!!
Happy Birthday wishes to YOU, Miss Maven!! Enjoy!!!
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Best wishes, Ms Cutter! Hope your day is a happy one! Enjoy!
Focus on Fritz Lang
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1950 - House by the River Fritz takes a coffee break.
LOVE It. ha. If it weren't for the "dainty" tea cup and the glasses.. he'd look like some sort of longshoreman. ha.
PS: seeing your mention of Secret Beyond the Door reminded me.. that is one I was able to finally get to a few weeks ago.. very suspenseful story.