Stephen444

>Does anyone else think that might be worth all the time and trouble? Yeah, anything would be better then the endless shorts that they now continually show between movies. I wouldn't even be concerned if the newsreels were authentically matched to a particular film. I think creating the atmosphere of a complete movie experience, including shorts could loosely be matched in an interesting way. I would especially like to see the old newsreel's that use to be apart of seeing a movie.

>Toyota was trying to get people to buy an SUV called a "Rav 4" and they used one of my favourite songs: "What do I get?" By the English Punk Band "The Buzzcocks"- And that raised them out of obscurity. Out of obsurity and now forever joined at the hip with the image of a Toyota Rav 4. I use to like the Rolling Stones but now I find with them trivial and just out to make as much money as any other corporate entity. I can't think of any particular uses of classic music off hand other then the Copeland piece about eating meat. We're getting a little off topic but mind control through the use of popular music is certainly disturbing. Amost as disturbing as censorship.

From Hell - Johnny Depp Blood for Dracula - Andy Warhol Invasion of the Body Snatchers - 50s version Flamingo Road Possessed The Best of Everything McCabe and Mrs. Miller Heroes for Sale / Wild Boys of the Road Baby Face Women in Revolt - Andy Warhol Flesh for Frankenstein - Andy Warhol Frost/Nixon

I don't know if it is the most disturbing scene but the rape in "A Clockwork Orange" has forever changed my experience of the song "Singing In The Rain". Equally horrible is how music is forever changed when it is used to sell products in commercials.

>Dance To Get Your House Back ? Sounds good to me but I think that's a little too much reality for the Reality Show format. Yowsah, yowsah, yowsah!

Thanks for the link Chip. I just thought of another depression film that is truly depressing. "They Shoot Horses Don't They?" Instead of Dancing With The Stars I would rather see a dance competition for people that are really suffering out there. The ultimate reality show.

>New York's Film Forum just had a fantastic depression-era film fest...AND, Universal & Paramount titles were featured too! Give us some titles. I'm salivating.

>Ah, Bound for Glory is about the life of Arlo's dad, Woody. I was at work when I typed that. I thought I might be in error but I wanted to get the thought out when it came to me. Thanks for the correction. That's an interesting description of Carradine at the showing. Sounds like he was slipping into Woody's persona as he did so convincingly in the movie. I understand that he came to his audition for this part in authentic clothes and guitar and acted and walked like Woody. I guess it worked because he got the part.

"Bound for Glory" (about the life of Arlo Gurthrie} starring David Carradine. Goes nicely with "Grapes Of Wrath" that had John Carradine in it.

I was impressed with William Wellman's "Wild Boys of the Road" that played Monday night. I have seen parts of this film before but seeing it this week I could identify with the father losing his job and being older. Maybe the current events in the economy make the message in this film more relevant to understanding what is happening in the world today. It would be interesting to see tcm put together a number of films specifically about the depression experience....Grapes of Wrath...what else??

>all three major theatrical versions of the film from 1977, 1980, and 1998 Wow thanks for the detailed info on this. It's like discussing varieties of Coke...New vs. Classic vs Zero vs. Lemon etc. With as many times as this film is shown on tcm it would be interesting for Robert Osborne to describe these different releases and then specify what we are looking at...especially the version as it originally was shown in 77. I would be interested in seeing the original myself. Maybe in his rush to get the film out orignally he created more mystery in the story like when he had problems with the mechanical shark in Jaws so they had to leave more to the imagination.

I'm sure that the scene that I am referring to is from the original theatrical release. It's not a great scene but it's nice and helps to frame out the excitement of the search for the alien ships. Whenever I see the words "Director's Cut" I run.

Anyone notice the scene where Dryefuss goes into work at the begining of the movie to get his assignment after the power starts going out not being in the film shown last night? I didn't watch the entire movie but I did notice that this scene wasn't in the film. I thought tcm shows only unedited films. I don't know why it would have been missing unless Spielberg has altered the orignal film to sell a new Director's cut version.

Elizabeth Hartman..."A Patch of Blue", "Your a Big Boy Now"...suicide.

>And my favorite Ray Milland movie is The Uninvited. Yeah, but nothing comes close to the two classics from 1972..."The Thing with Two Heads" where he shares a body with Rossevelt Grier. Very controversial part as it is the first 2 headed interracial monster in a movie. And of course "Frogs" belongs in every collection of Milland classics. Would love to see a night of Milland and Crawford horror films.

I was walking to art class on Fri., Nov. 22, 1963 at about 12:35. I was in the 10th grade.

>Elia Kazan's 1955 film East of Eden is making its TCM premiere on Monday, Feb. 23, at 10pm ET/7pm PT. I've commented before that this isn't shown nearly as often as Giant and Rebel but I didn't know that tcm had never shown it before. Don't understand why. It is by far Dean's best performance. I concur with the comments about the real life tension between Massey and Dean and who wouldn't want to be stuck at the top of the ferris wheel with Julie Harris or for you girls with James Dean.

Yeah, I agree. But not only don't you see it on tcm but Netflix doesn't carry it. Netflix seems to be the Walmart of films although I did just view some obscure docu dramas from the 60s by Ken Russell on Netflix. Again I have never seen these on tcm.

>Skimpole wrote..."To help clarify what I mean by the "seventies best picture nominee," OK Skimpy, I've always wanted an explanation to the meaning to the ending of 2001. Maybe you can supply me with one.

Pretty good 70s film on tonight...Carnal Knowledge. Saw it in the movies when it was released. Remember it being good but depressing.

Ureka! "Inchon" is in Netflix's database but alas it is not currently available. I have the option to save it for the future. I wonder whether it will ever be available.

>Scottman wrote...it would be fun if TCM could show some of the early 1930s German films like CONGRESS DANCES When I search for this title on Netflix all I get is "Confessions of a Lap Dancer" Not too much of the obscure stuff to be found there.

Off the top of my head...late 60's, 70s movies that are worthy of mention that have not been mentioned... *Looking for Mr. Goodbar*...a truly depressing but excellent film. *Putney Swope*...acid humor *Brewster McClould*...70s fantasy, funny, many excellent details that you pick up on with multiple viewings. *Breaking Away*..a story full of sentiment without sentimentality. I would agree with most of the previously mentioned films here, although I haven't seen all of them. I think this period of filmmaking wasn't as profit driven as it has become. I don't think that the term "Blockbuster" arrived before Jaws (understandably not on the list). I can remember reviews of films, even on tv spoke about the meaning of the film rather then just how much money it grossed. That's the result of the bean counters taking control of the industry.

This is not a criticism of tcm. I'm sure there are rational reasons why you don't see certain movies on tcm and maybe I just didn't see some of these when they were shown. I am sure there are people here, or as our former and current President's like to say "Folks", that would also be interested in discussing these titles. I'm interested in all genre's. I am also interested in compiling a suggestion list of movies that should be seen but are not shown on tcm. Please add to the list to help me out. I recently acquired a subscription to Netflix and have been viewing some of the movies that I am referring to. I just finished watching "Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978). I had remembered this from seeing it in the theatre when it first came out and had retained a favorable memory of it. It's funny how your age, among other things, changes your response. In this case I was not as pleased as I had been 31 years ago viewing this offering. Conversely I have grown to appreciate the qualities of the orignal Body Snatchers (1956) Maybe the whole subject of unfeeling aliens fits better into the mid 50s America then in the later film. I mean there were people in the 50s that really looked like they did in the original movie. Alien vs. real was not as easy to identify in the 56 version. I haven't seen the most recent version of this story as yet. (Body Snatchers 1992)

>One of my favorite scenes was when Hughes demonstrated why it was not a good idea to put a car's radiator in the car's door. Yeah, I liked that part too. I also liked the part where he decides that he has to make Hell's Angels over from scratch because he decided that it had to have sound. To hell with the cost or making do. He had to have things done a certain way and that was it. He was brilliant but he wasn't afraid to make mistakes, which he did quite often. Of course it helps to be able to afford to make mistakes. A scene that was deleted just popped into my head. It was earlier on in the movie where he comes home late to a dinner party after working on one of his projects. Everyone is dressed up for the party and Hughes arrives in his work clothes. How many times have you wanted to do that? Not being too good at small talk I don't think he made any new friends at the party. Hughes was so cool. Too bad they butchered the film. Message was edited by: Stephen444