Stephen444
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> Divine's quest to be "The Filthiest Person Alive"
Of course Pink Flamingos is disgusting. That was what the story was about. And let's not forget the final memorable doggy scene at the end (no pun intended) that is etched in everyone's mind that has seen this film.
I have enjoyed most of the Water's films that I have seen. Of course you can't compare his early films with the slicker one's like Serial Mom. It is admirable that all of his films have been filmed in his hometown of Baltimore that, I think, have given them a unique style.
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>Hitch had a different ending for Suspicion but went with the more commercially pleasing ending. I won't say what it is and spoil it for those here who haven't seen the movie, but those who have know what I mean.
Yeah, a darker more interesting ending. Sorry, but unhappiness, evil is usually more interesting then virtue.
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The term "Woman's Movie" gets me in trouble when I use it around my wife but it is a useful stereotype to apply to some films. I would certainly not apply it to "The Women". This is a fine film with entirely too much substance to be labeled a Woman's movie. I also disagree that it is more appreciated by gays. I find the glamor of the Adrian fashion show to still be very sexy and sophisticated today. All of the performances are first rate. You may possibly apply "Woman's Movie" to the 2008 remake of "The Women", although I didn't see it but understand that it was dreadful.
For me "Woman's Movie" requires that emotions have taken control without the counterbalance of logic. I recently watched Ken Russell's "Lady Chatterley's Lover" which I found to be full of schmaltz in contrast to Russell's other D.H. Lawrence story, "Women In Love" which was full of emotion but was a much more inspired production.
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>Can you ever imagine that commercials on the big screen!
I didn't realize that commercials were in the theatres in the 80s. The local commercial productions sound interesting but the slick corporate ones that you are subjected to today are insulting to your intelligence. I'm paying money for the privilege of seeing these dreary promotions. There is less and less creativity in our lives. The bean counters have prevailed!
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>They seem to be doing that a bit less these days, though.
That's unfortunate. It's always important to be aware of the kind of world that existed at the time a particular movie was made. If you look at 1968, when "2001" was made, it becomes obvious how advanced this movie was for it's time. The technology still looks believable to me 41 years later.
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Yeah, I can still remember going to the movies in the 50s and seeing a Warner Bros. Road Runner cartoon. It was really an experience to see these particular cartoons on a big screen. I think the scale of the big screen is more important in some shorts and films then others. The Road Runner cartoons certainly fall into this category.
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>Does anyone else think that might be worth all the time and trouble?
Yeah, anything would be better then the endless shorts that they now continually show between movies. I wouldn't even be concerned if the newsreels were authentically matched to a particular film. I think creating the atmosphere of a complete movie experience, including shorts could loosely be matched in an interesting way. I would especially like to see the old newsreel's that use to be apart of seeing a movie.
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>Toyota was trying to get people to buy an SUV called a "Rav 4" and they used one of my favourite songs: "What do I get?" By the English Punk Band "The Buzzcocks"- And that raised them out of obscurity.
Out of obsurity and now forever joined at the hip with the image of a Toyota Rav 4. I use to like the Rolling Stones but now I find with them trivial and just out to make as much money as any other corporate entity. I can't think of any particular uses of classic music off hand other then the Copeland piece about eating meat.
We're getting a little off topic but mind control through the use of popular music is certainly disturbing. Amost as disturbing as censorship.
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From Hell - Johnny Depp
Blood for Dracula - Andy Warhol
Invasion of the Body Snatchers - 50s version
Flamingo Road
Possessed
The Best of Everything
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
Heroes for Sale / Wild Boys of the Road
Baby Face
Women in Revolt - Andy Warhol
Flesh for Frankenstein - Andy Warhol
Frost/Nixon
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I don't know if it is the most disturbing scene but the rape in "A Clockwork Orange" has forever changed my experience of the song "Singing In The Rain". Equally horrible is how music is forever changed when it is used to sell products in commercials.
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When I was in art school if a professor remarked that your work was disturbing it was meant as a compliment.
I second "They Shoot Horses Don't They?". Excellent film but difficult to watch. Especially due to the condition of many people in today's economic turmoil.
Another title that I would definitely add is "Looking For Mr. Goodbar".
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>Dance To Get Your House Back ?
Sounds good to me but I think that's a little too much reality for the Reality Show format. Yowsah, yowsah, yowsah!
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Thanks for the link Chip. I just thought of another depression film that is truly depressing. "They Shoot Horses Don't They?" Instead of Dancing With The Stars I would rather see a dance competition for people that are really suffering out there. The ultimate reality show.
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>New York's Film Forum just had a fantastic depression-era film fest...AND, Universal & Paramount titles were featured too!
Give us some titles. I'm salivating.
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>Ah, Bound for Glory is about the life of Arlo's dad, Woody.
I was at work when I typed that. I thought I might be in error but I wanted to get the thought out when it came to me. Thanks for the correction.
That's an interesting description of Carradine at the showing. Sounds like he was slipping into Woody's persona as he did so convincingly in the movie. I understand that he came to his audition for this part in authentic clothes and guitar and acted and walked like Woody. I guess it worked because he got the part.
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"Bound for Glory" (about the life of Arlo Gurthrie} starring David Carradine. Goes nicely with "Grapes Of Wrath" that had John Carradine in it.
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I was impressed with William Wellman's "Wild Boys of the Road" that played Monday night. I have seen parts of this film before but seeing it this week I could identify with the father losing his job and being older. Maybe the current events in the economy make the message in this film more relevant to understanding what is happening in the world today.
It would be interesting to see tcm put together a number of films specifically about the depression experience....Grapes of Wrath...what else??
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>all three major theatrical versions of the film from 1977, 1980, and 1998
Wow thanks for the detailed info on this. It's like discussing varieties of Coke...New vs. Classic vs Zero vs. Lemon etc.
With as many times as this film is shown on tcm it would be interesting for Robert Osborne to describe these different releases and then specify what we are looking at...especially the version as it originally was shown in 77. I would be interested in seeing the original myself.
Maybe in his rush to get the film out orignally he created more mystery in the story like when he had problems with the mechanical shark in Jaws so they had to leave more to the imagination.
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I'm sure that the scene that I am referring to is from the original theatrical release. It's not a great scene but it's nice and helps to frame out the excitement of the search for the alien ships. Whenever I see the words "Director's Cut" I run.
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Anyone notice the scene where Dryefuss goes into work at the begining of the movie to get his assignment after the power starts going out not being in the film shown last night? I didn't watch the entire movie but I did notice that this scene wasn't in the film.
I thought tcm shows only unedited films. I don't know why it would have been missing unless Spielberg has altered the orignal film to sell a new Director's cut version.
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Elizabeth Hartman..."A Patch of Blue", "Your a Big Boy Now"...suicide.
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>And my favorite Ray Milland movie is The Uninvited.
Yeah, but nothing comes close to the two classics from 1972..."The Thing with Two Heads" where he shares a body with Rossevelt Grier. Very controversial part as it is the first 2 headed interracial monster in a movie. And of course "Frogs" belongs in every collection of Milland classics.
Would love to see a night of Milland and Crawford horror films.
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I was walking to art class on Fri., Nov. 22, 1963 at about 12:35. I was in the 10th grade.
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>Elia Kazan's 1955 film East of Eden is making its TCM premiere on Monday, Feb. 23, at 10pm ET/7pm PT.
I've commented before that this isn't shown nearly as often as Giant and Rebel but I didn't know that tcm had never shown it before. Don't understand why. It is by far Dean's best performance. I concur with the comments about the real life tension between Massey and Dean and who wouldn't want to be stuck at the top of the ferris wheel with Julie Harris or for you girls with James Dean.
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I recently watched "Mommy Dearest" with Water's commentary. I think it's one of the most entertaining and interesting insights into this film that has been made. I think that his homosexuality adds to his observations about Crawford without going over the top. He is funny, intelligent and he gives a fresh point of view that is well worth watching. He has also written a very good book about Baltimore, although I don't remember the title off hand, that has fresh observations about the city.