sewhite2000
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I would suggest all of you consult moviecollectoroh's database and see how many times Cagney's movies have played on TCM compared to some other stars of the same era.
http://moviecollector.us/reports/TCM_SCHEDULES_SUMMARY_alpha.htm
I really, honestly, truly with all my heart think this is making mountains out of molehills. Cagney gets played so much more than so many other movie stars on this network. Please look at this database and see that I'm right.
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Are all you people the same person? I mean, come on, now ...
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1 hour ago, LawrenceA said:
How?
I too would like you to provide some specific evidence instead of making such a fantastic statement with nothing to back it up. Of all the things people complain about on the message boards, the idea that TCM doesn't pay enough tribute to a longtime WB contract player absolutely baffles me.
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Mainly for the sake of pushing something in front of the Korean spam currently taking up the first four pages of the board, I will counterargue that Cagney is hardly underrepresented on TCM, as opposed to say Tyrone Power. The recent Michael Curtiz tribute was loaded with Cagney peformances, for example.
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I guess I'm not very observant. I didn't realize there was any exposure. Well, we'll see if this thread survives now that you've posted that!
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I'm not trying to advocate for further censorship, but if a TCM Administrator decided my Barbara Stanwyck photo was too dirty to be allowed, while a direct link to Caligula is apparently totally cool, I cry foul.
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Well, it appears my thread entitled "Racy Barbara Stanwyck Photo" proved too racy for TCM Administrators. I've been away from the boards for about 15 hours, but I can't find it anywhere. Thankfully, I don't seem to have received any warning points. It was not my intention to distribute "pornography!" Not that I actually a believe a semi-nude female pic of a woman just sitting there and staring at the camera is in any way pornography. I figured if it was innocuous enough to not be deleted by Facebook, it was okay for here. But I was wrong. I find it sort of amusing that a 95-year-old photo from the actual Ziegfeld Follies is deemed too racy from the message boards for a network that loves to show us movies about a fictionalized, less racy version of the Ziegfeld Follies. Appreciate the irony as you will. I also find it sort of ridiculous, but America remains to this day a country that's really uptight about non-pornographic presentations of the body, while virtually all depictions of violence pass with a PG-13 sticker these days.
Hope the people who got to see it enjoyed it. Perhaps I should have titled the thread "Favorite Recipe for Gazpacho" or something. It might have survived a little longer without being censored.
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Checking out moviecollectoroh's database. Anatomy of a Murder is making its impressive 56th airing on TCM tonight. But, listen, I always welcome anything outside the "TCM Library" because you never know when such a film will suddenly disappear for 10 years or forever.
Maybe you just know turned on your TV and didn't know it was preceded by The Man Who Came to Dinner, about which I would think you would have even more cause to complain, making its 72nd TCM airing!
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Similarly, I would like TCM to air Last Tango in Paris.
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3 hours ago, darrylfxanax said:
A couple of films I’d love for TCM to air are both from Paramount, I believe. Elephant Walk (1954) and Teacher’s Pet (1958) showing up on the schedule would be wonderful! Both are probably available to view online somewhere, and I believe I’ve got pretty good VHS copies I recorded decades ago in one of the 16 boxes of video cassettes I can’t part with. It’s just more of an event when shown on the channel and commented on by all who watch and post their thoughts.
I know I've seen Elephant Walk on TCM, because where else would I have seen it? But, according to moviecollectoroh's database, it's last airing on TCM was six years ago. That's probably when I saw it. Interesting last-second substitution of Elizabeth Taylor for Vivien Leigh, whom I believe had to drop out for various mental health issues. I know I've read it's still Leigh you can seen in various long shots.
Teacher's Pet I would really like to see. Clark Gable and Doris Day? I'm in! Looks like TCM used to show it quite a bit, but it's been eight years since its last TCM airing.
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I went through all the Best Picture winners up to 2000, and it's always possible I made a mistake somewhere, but I'm pretty sure there are only two TCM has never shown: The Sound of Music (20th Century Fox, 1965) and Platoon (Orion, 1986).
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The interesting thing about that is since the only opportunity they were going to get to show it (and let's not forget Godfather Part II also) was during SUTS, they actually had to create a Robert Duvall SUTS day at the last possible second so as to not break the established August format and cull together another eight or so movies with Duvall in them. I have no memory of what they were, but I did sit there and watch those two movies uninterrupted back to back that glorious night, almost certainly the only time they will ever air on TCM.
To the chagrin of some, I'm sure, the actress who'd already been scheduled for that day got bumped. I have some kind of mental block where I always forget who that was. TopBilled will know. I believe he's answered this question before.
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If you read a lot of the commentary on here, you'd get the impression it was more ageism than racism. You would have thought she was 12 the way people talked about her. There was a lot of anger and suspicion over the fact that TCM might be trying to appeal the "Utes".
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Yeah, that one's been discussed frequently. It's a Warner Bros. film, and TCM shows all of Doris Day's other Warner Bros. films, so I don't know what the issue is. I suspect it has something to do with the rights to the songs.
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6 hours ago, arpirose said:
Here are a few. BEAU GESTE, EARLY CAROLE LOMBARD FILMS, THIS GUN FOR HIRE, THE GLASS KEY, THE GENERAL DIED AT DAWN,THE MINISTRY OF FEAR, MIRACLE AT MORGAN CREEK , HAIL THE CONQUERING HERO, AND MORE. This is Paramount. There is a long list of 20th Century Fox and Universal films that they haven't shown. We can go on and on on this one. I believe TCM has shown about 25% of all classic films. Therefore, the public does not know or been exposed to most of all the classic actors or their films. I cannot believe it is due to the lack of money. Their parent company TIME WARNER HAS PLENTY MONEY TO SPARE. Repeating the same films over and over is bad for keeping their audience. People get ticked off.
Wait, didn't they just show Beau Geste? I wasn't watching, but I think that was the one I got in the heated argument with the guy who thought Ben M. was being too PC in his intro.
Anyway, I know they showed it in 2015, because I saw it.
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I, uh ... she really went by Sr. and daughter by Jr.?
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4 hours ago, Bethluvsfilms said:
There's Dustin Hoffman as Tootsie.
Robin Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire (believe it or not though there are some people who are more sympathetic to Miranda, the ex played by Sally Field, even once he's exposed!).
My personal favorites though HAVE to be Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon in SOME LIKE IT HOT. Curtis reminds me of Eve Arden in drag, and of course he is deliberately channeling Cary Grant when he's pretending to be the millionaire.
I asked early on in this thread if the intention was characters who dress in drag to advance the plot or actors who show up playing the opposite gender without any explanation or plot relevance. You're only describing the former, whereas my feeling was maybe the thread was supposed to be about the latter. But I don't know that I ever got an answer.
Will this sort of thing even be allowed anymore? Scarlett Johannsen had accepted a role as a transgender woman born male, but as social media nearly broke with the backlash of hate from the LBGTQ crowd ("We don't want no stinkin' cisgender playing no transgender! What kinda Nazi hate crap is that? Hate crime! Hate crime!"), she gave up the role and had to issue all the customary apologies to the LBGTQ community that automatically accompanies these situations for essentially being an insensitive pig for accepting the role in the first place. Possibly playing the completely opposite gender is not quite the same, but the writing is on the wall that you need to stick to your own race and gender identity when selecting roles in the modern world.
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So I saw The Great Escape for the zillionth time the other night and still have mixed feelings about McQueen's appearance in the movie, which lets us know in the intro that the details presented about the escape are painstakingly accurate, although the same intro neglects to mention McQueen's character is wholly fictional. He radiates the obvious charisma and star power that United Artists clearly wanted, but at times, it feels like his character beams in from some completely different universe that has nothing to do with the movie that's otherwise going on and then beams away again for long periods of time (usually while his character is in The Cooler). And all that motorcycle stuff was apparently added just to satisfy a whim of McQueen's.
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4 hours ago, Bethluvsfilms said:
Anyway to bring back the topic of Steve, while he's not one of my favs, I will admit he did do a fine job as Papillion.
Though I am hearing there are talks of a remake....something supposedly more faithful to the real story as it actually happened.
Lawrence provided a trailer but no info beyond that, so just to clarify: the remake is out August 24 with a couple of actors most noted for their TV work to this point in their careers: Charlie Hunnam of Sons of Anarchy in the McQueen role and Rami Malek of Mr. Robot in the Hoffman role.
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Even in a fanciful film like The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, Sanders is at his roguish best, luring Gene Tierney into an affair which he lets her believe will someday lead to more than instant gratification. I love the scene where she declares she's a widow and therefore single: "Oh ...", he says, followed by his eyes lighting up and "... Oh???"
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So, I'm guessing the plan is for every Thursday primetime to be linked thematically, and that TCM is scrambling to see what films they can and can't secure for whatever this theme will be. Guess we'll just have to keep checking in.
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The members of Led Zeppelin absolutely didn't believe in singles. That was for the teenyboppers, man! And so, they never released a single in their native UK. They were unable to prevent their American distributor, Ahmet Ertegun at Atlantic Records, from putting some of their songs out as singles over the years, none of which did particularly well, despite their massive album sales, except of course for "Whole Lotta Love". They absolutely drew the line, however, when it came to "Stairway to Heaven", letting Ertegun know in no uncertain terms that one was not to be released as a single.
They also seem to have been shameless about stealing ideas from others, particularly old American blues artists, "Whole Lotta Love" swipes from "You Need Love", written by Willie Dixon and originally recorded by Muddy Waters in 1962. Since 1985, Dixon has been credited as a co-writer of the Zeppelin song. They were also recently in court over "Stairway", the guitar intro of which the band Spirit claimed swiped from their song "Taurus". I've forgotten how that case ended. I think Zep won.
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October 4 is a mystery night so far. Possibly Treasures from the Disney Vaults night?
Edit: Actually, it appears the primetime schedule for every Thursday of the month is not yet set! That's intriguing.
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Wow, Lawrence, you're fast! This thread got me so worked up, I was going through the database with a pen and a sheet of paper and compiling this same data. I'd gotten up to The St. Louis Kid and thought I'd check in. Glad I didn't continue on with every Cagney movie before learning you'd already provided us that information.
Now, all you people (or if you're actually the same person) who think Cagney is underrepresented, look at those numbers and then compare them to the times Tyrone Power's movies have aired on TCM.