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Night of the Living Dead was another film I saw in my cult movies class. Still trying to remember the rest.

At least one poster on here, maybe more, has said that this was Day's least favorite movie of her entire career, and maybe TCM is sort of honoring her by not showing it. calvinnme, The Desert Song has never previously aired on TCM, according to MCOH's database.

Yes, I'm probably not being fair. I do understand some performances are supposed to be annoying, in which case she probably actually did a really good job. Another performance like that for me is Estelle Parsons in Bonnie and Clyde. If her intention was to play the most annoying character in movie history, she succeeded!

MCOH has himself said his database isn't complete, especially pre-2001. It's certainly possible they used to air it a looong time ago. It's a film I would like to see. I was hoping it might pop up when I saw Doris Day was going to be one of the SUTS honorees, but no such luck.

And I just remembered The Children's Hour, which was even before The Birds, in which she's the little girl blackmailed into lying. She looks like she's about to have a breakdown in that one, too.

Yes, that's what I meant. Didn't even realize I'd typed the name of the wrong movie until seeing your reply.

This statement quite surprised me, so I scurried over to moviecollectoroh's database, and I'm not trying to argue with your memory, but he doesn't have it listed as having ever aired on TCM.

Though I saw it in theaters, I was unaware until reading this thread 27 years later that Glenn Close had played a male pirate in Hook. No I want to watch it again for her performance. Is it so tiny a role that it's not worth sitting through? Because, much a fan of Dustin Hoffman as I am, I would not say this is Spielberg's most memorable movie. So, I guess we're saying actors/actresses who play opposite gender without explanation or plot pretense? That is to say Glenn Close in Hook and not Glenn Close in Albert Nobbs, in which she plays a woman pretending to be a man. A couple of examples that immediately spring to mind are Cate Blanchett as Bob Dylan in I'm Not There and, if we can include TV, Louie Anderson as Mrs. Baskets in Baskets.

I actually took a class called cult movies (oh, I loved college!), and we watched movies one night a week. I'm trying to remember what we saw. Some of the ones you mentioned. The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Eraserhead, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Plan 9 from Outer Space, Scorpio Rising. Hmm. The memory fades. This was the beginning of the '90s. I think we saw about 12 or 13 movies total, but those are the only ones I can remember right now. We also read about movies we didn't see, stuff from Jodorowsky and others. I find your thoughts on how the definition of the word has possibly changed, though I'm not entirely certain I agree with you. I would argue that to embrace rock these days actually gives you something of a cult status, because rock has been obliterated from the mainstream by hip-hop, girl-power pop and bro-country to the point of being virtually irrelevant to anyone under 40. I would say your definition of what's happened to rock applies more aptly to hip-hop, which was certainly once cult music but now is utterly mainstream.

And then sometimes, this happens on these threads (Sepiatone's correction of me is one post below my own correction).

To the best of my recollection, Star 80 is not camp at all, but a relentlessly grim and powerful drama. Fosse at his absolute darkest, and no singing or dancing. But I haven't seen it since adolescence. It was easier for a movie to impress me in those days! Hef did not like the way Robertson portrayed him in the movie and sued. Perhaps taking a preemptive measure against a potential Bogdanovich lawsuit, Fosse doesn't use his real name in the movie, but the Bogdanovich character is called "Aram Nicholas" and is played by Roger Rees.

Just a few quick notes while I'm still processing: TCM airing Sudden Fear I think for only the second time ever on August 31. Despite being an RKO release, there must have been some kind of rights issue with this film, because it only made its TCM premiere within the last year or two. Everybody jump on this rare chance to see it! 24 hours of Barbara Streisand. Wow! While it appears The Owl and the Pussycat is the only TCM premiere, it's not like any of these films are on all the time. I will definitely try to catch at least a couple of these. The Gary Cooper day is sadly really predictable except maybe for The Story of Dr. Wassell. Rights issues being what they are, TCM only shows a DeMille film once in a blue moon, so view this one while you have a chance! None of the films on Walter Matthau day are listed as premieres, but like with Streisand, none of them are ridiculously overshown movies either. Looks like a lot of fairly infrequent gems on this day. Okay, more later! Edit: Oh wait, I've got to mention Star 80, which I secretly watched without my parents' knowledge on HBO when I was in maybe seventh grade. Of course, I had no idea who Carroll Baker was at the time, so I would like to watch again with that knowledge. An absolute star-making performance from Julia Roberts' brother, Eric. Not sure why he never became A-list material. Maybe his personal life contributed. Also a nice bit from Cliff Robertson as Hugh Hefner. And if you didn't get enough Mariel Hemmingway nudity in Personal Best, well ...

Whew. Haven't even had time to fully process this. I will just initially comment on the two spots that were up for vote by the Backlot members: Gary Cooper beats out Paul Newman, which I predicted. I don't mind that, depending on what the Cooper films are. I haven't even begun to look into that yet. And I was personally hoping for Anita Page, but we get Anita Louise, with whom I am extremely unfamiliar. I'm interested to see what her films are. More after I've had time to analyze!

Jakeem was kind enough to send me a PM rather than calling me out publicly, but now I feel obliged to give full disclosure: I forgot Sigourney Weaver was not the only "girl"in Alien, but Veronica Cartwright was also part of the Nostromo crew, all of whom get slaughtered except for Sigourney. I'm not super-knowledgeable on Cartwright's career, but every movie I've ever seen her in, dating all the way back to The Birds when she was like eleven, she played a screaming hysteric. I hope sometimes she gets a SUTS day where we can just sit back and watch her scream for 24 hours.

So my original count is correct. Probably a lot more films than that, since you're missing data.

If I'm reading this info correctly, TCM aired 1,383 unique features made between 1950 and 1969 just between 1994 and 2000. At which point, I tired of adding numbers! So ... a lot. But I'm not entirely sure I'm reading it right. If a movie is unique to 2000, does that mean it hadn't aired before that year? If it had, then the above number would be a lot smaller.

Are you kidding? You can go to the TCM Premieres thread and count up all the movies TCM has shown for the first time since August 8, 2014, anyway.

By rare, I only mean rare to air on TCM.

Francis has been a pretty rare get for TCM. According to moviecollectoroh's database, the original movie has aired on TCM only twice in the last 11 years, and none of the sequels have ever been on TCM. It's a Universal property. But you never know. TCM showed several Ma and Pa Kettle movies, which are also Universal, within the last year or two, so maybe one of these days.

Everyone's allowed to unreasonably hate at least one critically acclaimed, Oscar-winning performance, and mine is Shirley Booth in Come Back, Little Sheba. She makes me grind my teeth. No wonder Burt Lancaster was spiraling into alcoholism and depression and casting his eye toward that hot young college girl who'd moved in!

Donald Meek! I mean, come on! His last name was Meek!

Sigourney Weaver was the only "girl" in Alien, as well as the final survivor, but that was a year after Halloween. Hmmm ... Oh, I thought of one. The girl who's the only survivor in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

I think some of it had to do with accident of circumstance - how old one was when one's career started and what parts were available. Judy Garland was just the opposite - she struggled to be cast in some adult roles. I've learned from my years of watching TCM that she was particularly unhappy as a woman in her early 20s to be cast in another high school girl role in Meet Me in St. Louis, until, I think, Vincente Minelli convinced her it would be a great part for her. I know less about Deanna Durbin, but things may have been similar for her. Then, on the flip side of the coin, Leslie and Young started getting cast in roles they were too young for right out of the gate. I don't think anybody really stopped to think about the inappropriateness of the age differences between the actors themselves. It was just a job. An actress' real age wasn't easily accessible on the Internet like it is now, and the studios probably fudged those numbers both up and down depending on circumstances in their publicity materials. And attitudes about what was an appropriate age were different, as all those old songs that use the phrase "Sweet Sixteen" will attest.

My God, is that Von Stoheim with hair? (As a bald man, I'm quick to notice these things).

Yep, happening to me, too. I sent a PM this morning, and when I tried to get back on General Discussions I got that "community is unavailable" screen. I thought uh oh, I've been banned! I closed the window I was using and opened a new one, but I'm still getting that black bar message.