ArmandDuval
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Ah! Madame Bovary! Now, there is a question! Is it a man's movie or a woman's? I think it is for both. When He discovers his wife is the most popular woman at the party, and he is roaring drunk, he tries to dance with her, but just embarrasses her, which is every man's fear.
How about RAIN, wih Joan Crawford. Is that a chick filck, or both?
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"I have never seen The Longest Yard , or Nine Yards or something like that and quite a few other 'guy flicks'. If given a choice, I will usually pick a 'chick flick' over a shot 'em up. This is not to say I don't like action movies, I'm just more drawn to those pics aimed at my gender."
Well, if given a choice, then you will go with the "chick flick," not the "guy flick." So, that just negates the whole argument that we should get rid of the labels!
I know it's hard. Sheez, I have wrestled with my own conscious. But, I will deliberately watch and force myself to "destroy" stereotypes when I can. Like The Women, which is usually, and even most often, a Chick Flick, but I deliberately try to see it from a film maker's percpective, and not catergorize it into gender.
Oh, I am just debating! I am a Speech and English teacher. So, don't fret too much, and perhaps I came on too strong. I just want to destroy this gender thing as much as you do, but I don't have much hope.
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Ha! That was a scream! And, much too PHALLIC!
Now, as for GUYS and DOLLS, I think that would be for both! It has BRANDO, which is definitely male, and ROMANCE, which is, well, shall I say, definitely female?
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Thanks, but it has been four years, and I have learned to adjust. But, I still watch The Women, Camille, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and The Maltese Falcon, etc.
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So, georgie, in your "As We Evolve" statement, it would seem that you are backing down. So, is this thread just a sham? If you like the guy flicks for the men, isn't that just sex, again? So, what's the point of this thread? I thought it was suppose to lift us to a new level, unite us as one human race, not make us realize why we actually like chick flicks, if we are guys (for the babes), and like guy flicks, if we are gals (for the studs).
So, what's up with that? This is not a confrontation, just a disapointment. I thought we were breaking new ground, but as usual, it all falls back into the norm. So, why BOTHER?
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Don't you just LOVE opinions? They are just like ********, everyone has one!
Well, first of all, this is exactly the kind of thread that divides not unifies. So, let me start dividing. First of all, I love The Women, as did my wife before she died. We found it HILARIOUS! The stereotypes were so well done that it became one of our "let's put on The Women and laugh" films. And, we both thought it was a turning point in Roz Russell's career. She was the star! But, I agree that for the original audiences, it was "probably" a woman's movie.
Now, as for the Sierra Madre, I have to admit my wife was not as taken by that as I was, and I have seen it three times. I find it easy to identify with due to the greed and murder aspects of the film. I would suppose many women would find that distasteful, or not. I don't know, I try not to judge. But, for the original audience, I would think the women "probably" found it boring without any women in it.
Now, as for Garbo, the greatest star who ever lived, I find her film's pace very Garbo, which is fine for me. But, I understand in today's "give it to me NOW" society, she seems a little slow and langurous! But, that is exactly why I am such a fan. She feeds my neurosis! I love it when she dies. And, as for the new audiences finding it dull, I have personally given old movies as gifts to various individuals, and for the most part, anyone who gets Camille thanks me! Granted they are mostly women. But, that hardly matters.
Anyway, I imagine there will be countless stereotypical answers on this thread. I can't wait to read the expected.
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Norma Shearer
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"King" Westly (I still don't know if that is a first or last name)
Jameson Thomas - It Happened One Night
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Years and years ago, I had to go to my grandmother's funeral in LA for just one day, but I got a group together and forced them to take me to Grauman's Chinese Theater so I could see Jean Harlow's foot prints! A MUST SEE!
Poor grandma, she didn't miss us, and we weren't gone long.
Never got back there, but if I do, I really want to drive through Beverly Hills and, also, take a look at the Chateau Marmont hotel on Sunset Boulevard!
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Ah! The Merry Widow! I just watched that again for the umpteenth time last month! What a great film, and of course Jeanette was incomparable!
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Dolores Del Rio in Madame Du Barry - Costumes by the GREAT Orry-Kelly
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Hope you haven't posted these before Mongo!
Hedy on Hedy
Does anyone have a birthday on April 14th?
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Louise Brooks
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Ulrich von Eltz (Leo Van Harden's "best friend")
Lars Hansen - Flesh and the Devil
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I'm with you, Annie. I'm waiting for the day when we are all people instead of men and women, but I doubt that day will ever come due to "sex." That is the one element that separates the men from the boys and guy flicks from the chick flicks. A buddy of mine just used that expression the other day talking about his addiction to sci-fi. He said he'd take a bad sci-fi over a great chick flick anyday. I wanted to say, "What? Are you nuts?" But, I knew the conversation that would ensue, so I just agreed and punched him in the shoulder.
It is a great barrier, and the real trouble is that women will not hesitate to be a "man," but men still refuse to be a "woman." Therefore, they will all assume you will like Moonstruck, because it is easier just to stay in your safety zone. That way you don't have to rebuff all of the judgments from the other guys. I couldn't imagine telling all my buddies, "I just LOVE Jeanette MacDonald!" Ha! Are you mad???
But, I can watch her and all the rest in private, and come on this board, in private, and proclaim my "betrayal" to my gender, as liberating and "individual."
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She takes my breathe away. What a beautiful gown: Adrian? Must be. And, stars in her hair! I never tire of Jeanette.
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That's a looooong time! But, it has proven worth it. They are highly enjoyable and contribute so much to this thread.
My favorites are costume/historical films as well. Most of my favorite Garbo films are the costume ones. She really didn't do silent costume films, but in the talkies, as Hollywood entered its Golden Age, she shown in elaborately outfitted films like Romance, Mata Hari, Queen Christina, Anna Karenina, and Camille.
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Well, I am sure that is exactly what was intended. She was playing a hooker, lady of the evening, ten-cents-a-dance girl. All of the respectable women in the film took pot shots at her. Even Madame Yu-Lan said (I can't remember exactly, but), "The actions of a woman like her simply don't exist!"
They did the same thing to Joan Crawford in Rain as Sadie Thompson:
Jean didn't look as bad as she did:
I think in the Thirties, as today, too much make-up and too many ruffles, etc. equaled cheap floozy!
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Susan Lenox (Oh, Baby!)
Greta Garbo - Susan Lenox: Her Fall and Rise
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Ok, polecat! Thanks for the pic! That is one of my favorite numbers from that movie, and I hope you don't mind me taking the liberty to shrink your red photo, but I couldn't really make it out.
And, WOW, erzbet, all those pics are great! I especially like the two of Jeanette, and the ones of Greer and Norma!
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Of course! Don't they all?
Jean Harlow
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Saratoga Trunk is the all time greatest Bergman movie, IMHO! She rivals Scarlett O'Hara in her portrayal of Clio Dulaine. It is a delightful romp unlike anything she ever did. She prances, primps, teases, throws tantrums, and is absolutely entrancing! I have watched that movie at least 10 times and will gladly watch it another 10! Her co-star is Gary Cooper who is a perfect foil. They bounce insults off of each other, throw things, and fall madly into each others arms! The rest of the cast is perfect! You will never see another movie like it cause there never was another one to come close to the story, the sets, the photography, the script, the direction, the acting, the stars, or the pace! OH, I could go on and on. I love Gaslight, and I love Notorious, but both of those films are HEAVY dramas. Saratoga Trunk sweeps you away into a dazzling and dangerous dream world of one outrageously daring and beautiful coquette bent on revenge! A must have for any film lover!
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There, that's better. Polecat, put a > at the end of that HML under the Mandy picture and get rid of the quotation mark. I'd love to see it.
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Ethel Barrymore
Ronald Reagan
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I thought Reagan was great in King's Row, but I also REALLY like his performance as the vapid, superficial friend of Judith Traherne in Dark Victory. I love them both at the bar when she sang, "OH GIVE ME TIME!"
Although it is true most any actor could have played that part, he was more than adequate! That takes nothing away from his performance; many an actor could have done worse!