musicalnovelty

> {quote:title=ValentineXavier wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=dianabat wrote:}{quote} > > And here I thought this was going to be a poll on *who'd been stung by dead bees...* > > Truly, that was THE question of THaHN. > Are you saying it was a "bee-movie"?

> {quote:title=ValentineXavier wrote:}{quote} > A foley artist creates sound effects. > Named after Jack Foley who worked in several capacities at Universal in the late 1920's & 1930's.

> {quote:title=infinite1 wrote:}{quote} > What I'd like to know is what was the first film to usher in the modern practice of listing every damn credit at the end of a film? > I'm sure it was a gradual process starting in the mid-1960's with the listings getting longer all the time. It didn't start with just one movie.

> {quote:title=BuccaneerMoe wrote:}{quote} > > First the movie I'm referring to on this occasion is "GIANT" with the following cast: Elizabeth Taylor, James Dean and Rock Hudson. Directed by: George Stevens > > I would just like to know if this movie also has a "Overture - "Intermission" and "Exit Music" . > It's on now and it had no overture at the start.

> {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > I thought the deal was with Roach and they had it for some ridiculous amount of time. 40 years.... > That's what was being said back in 2006 when TCM started running the Roach shorts. There are many that they still have not run once yet. Such as: The Caretaker's Daughter (1934) Mrs. Barnacle Bill (1934) Speaking of Relations (1934) You Bring the Ducks (1934) Nosed Out (1934) Ballad of Paducah Jail (1934) Lucky Beginners (1935) The Infernal Triangle (1935) Duke for a Day (1934) And all the existing foreign-language versions of Laurel & Hardy, Charley Chase and Our Gang shorts (that theoretically they should also have access to).

It could be MERRILY WE LIVE (1938). Info here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0030442/plotsummary Cast here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0030442/combined

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote} > Today is a bank holiday, isn't it? They could have shown the 1938 British film they showed last year, "Bank Holiday". > I enjoyed that. Wouldn't mind them showing it again.

> {quote:title=redriver wrote:}{quote} > I like the physicality of these things, the scratchy sound of the needle on vinyl... > > You'd get along well with Woody Allen. He's voiced these exact feelings. > Coincidentally, while helping to clean out the stock of a long-defunct mail-order record company, I recently picked up a scratchy old record by...none other than Woody Allen! (And I've never even been a fan of his). I just saved it because it looked like a possible rarity and I figure there's got to be someone who'd be interested in it. Poking around on eBay I just found someone selling a copy, if anyone's curious what it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/PROMO-EP-EARLY-Woody-Allen-Live-Mr-Kellys-Colpix-/140486107164?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item20b59fe01c

> {quote:title=PrinceSaliano wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=Scottman wrote:}{quote} > > True. > > Columbia had (besides the Three Stooges), Charley Chase, Andy Clyde, Buster Keaton, El Brendel and Harry Langdon, among others. > Columbia also had Hugh Herbert. > And of course, my favorites, The Musical Novelties (series of eight musical comedy shorts, 1933 to 1934)!!

> {quote:title=hamradio wrote:}{quote} > MovieProfessor I like to add something to your post about Franklin Pangborn. I bought a paperback book back in the late 1970's called "Who Is That? The Late Late Viewer's Guide to the Old Old Movie Players" by Warren B. Meyers. (yes I did type *old* twice - no typo, ouch). Copyright 1967 > Here is an online photo of the cover. > > That is the reprint from about 1982 with a new cover. Here is the original 1967 cover. This is the one I have: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vtg-That-Viewers-Guide-B-W-Movie-Stars-/320651943724?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item4aa8585f2c

> {quote:title=kriegerg69 wrote:}{quote} > Not to mention the Lux Radio Theater adaption with Gwenn....making five times the story has been done. > Actually it was performed three different times on "The LUX Radio Theatre" - December 22, 1947 December 20, 1948 and December 21, 1954. Edmund Gwenn played Kris Kringle in all three versions.

> {quote:title=ericsvdwsi8 wrote:}{quote} >The Ed Wynn version was presumed to be lost but someone found it at the Library of Congress a few years back. NBC gave most of their old videotape to the Library of Congress and much of it apparently still hasn't been cataloged. > That was me! I have always been interested in that version and have done extensive research into it including learning back in 2001 that the Library of Congress had the negatives of the black & white Kinescope of the program (It had been pretty well regarded as lost even by some of the participants). It was broadcast only once, live, on November 27, 1959 and thought to never have been saved. With a bit of work a viewing print could be struck from the materials the LoC had, and I was able to encourage some of the good folks there to prioritize it and to examine the materials to see if it could be done. Finally a few years later a viewing print was ready and so I got to be the first person to watch the show since its original live broadcast back on the day after Thanksgiving 1959. For personal reasons I consider it my favorite version and I have since watched it at least 15 times (so far!) Here's more info on it (cast, etc.): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0307164/combined

> {quote:title=MovieMadness wrote:}{quote} > Dead End was great last night though, it is amazing what they could do in just a small alley like that. > "Chariots of Fire or Gallipoli" - NEITHER! But, "Dead End" - now you're talkin'! 1930's over 1980's any time!

> {quote:title=soniquemd21921 wrote:}{quote} > Didn't Gershwin die when he was writing the score to this film? > Maybe he died before it was released so he could avoid having to see it!

> {quote:title=ChorusGirl wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=musicalnovelty wrote:}{quote} > > I know the guy who created that, and yes, he's a clever guy! > > He did a great job on that, but as I told him last time I saw him, if he wanted to really be authentic and redo the audio on it, I know what the original music was for the opening titles of CONVENTION CITY and if he wanted to do it over using that tune, at least we purists would not be fooled. But then again, how many people would actually know the difference? But I did... > > > > Anyway, the original opening titles music for CONVENTION CITY was the tune "Lonely Lane" written by Sammy Fain & Irving Kahal, introduced by Dick Powell in the Warner Bros. feature COLLEGE COACH which was released the month before CONVENTION CITY. Dick Powell also recorded the song for Brunswick Records. So it was still a current popular song when audiences heard it in CONVENTION CITY. > > > *I LOVE that you know this! I am obsessed with anything regarding *Convention City*. (If you tell me I cant have something, I will not rest till I get it...)*> > The Film Forum in NYC did a reading of the script about 10 years ago...I would love if they did that at the TCM Film Festival. I'm sure they could find actors who could do the lightning-fast Warners dialogue. The script is in the library at Princeton, for anyone who wants to read it. > > Love the mystery regarding this film's disappearance. I know for a while it was believed that Warner ordered all copies distroyed, but apparently that has been questioned in recent years (especially at the Vitaphone Project website). It does seem very odd that not even a trailer exists. > > The "teaser trailer" on You Tube really was a great idea. > ChorusGirl said... **I LOVE that you know this! I am obsessed with anything regarding Convention City. (If you tell me I can't have something, I will not rest till I get it...)* *Hey, let me know when you find a copy! CONVENTION CITY is also one of my favorites to research and collect stuff on. I have several original stills and other material such as original reviews, etc. *The Film Forum in NYC did a reading of the script about 10 years ago* ..**I've been to many pre-code film series at The Film Forum over many years, but sorry couldn't make that one. *Love the mystery regarding this film's disappearance. I know for a while it was believed that Warner ordered all copies destroyed, but apparently that has been questioned in recent years (especially at the Vitaphone Project website). It does seem very odd that not even a trailer exists.* Speaking of the trailer, here's some more CONVENTION CITY trivia for you: a listing of all the music heard in the original 1933 trailer: 1. Untitled original composition (credited to "Staff"). 2. Lonely Lane (Irving Kahal and Sammy Fain). 3. Original (untitled) by M.K. Jerome. 4. Hail, Hail, The Gang's All Here (Sullivan). 5. Original (untitled) by M.K. Jerome. *The "teaser trailer" on You Tube really was a great idea.* That was actually an attempt to recreate what the opening titles & credits might have looked like, not the trailer.

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote} >But, it just isn't the same ! I like the physicality of these things, the scratchy sound of the needle on vinyl... the feel and look and even the smell of books (no jokes please, books, especially well-bound ones, really do have a scent), and even my videos and dvds, on the shelf...I like these things, and lament their inevitable passing. > I so completely agree!

> {quote:title=Mad66 wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=musicalnovelty wrote:}{quote} > > > {quote:title=Mad66 wrote:}{quote} > > >Question... *How do you get your responses to include the big white box with the text from the >person you are directly responding to ?* ... (like "Scottman wrote: ... ) > > > > > > > Click on the quotation marks above the box where you type in your response. > Oh yes ... thank you ! > Mad > Hey, it worked!

> {quote:title=Scottman wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=ChorusGirl wrote:}{quote} > > I'm not holding my breath for *Convention City*, the lost 1933 pre-Code comedy. > > > > Somebody on You Tube tried to imagine what the opening credits would have been like...and they achieved the Warner Bros look of the period pretty well. > > > > > > Thanks for the link! > That was a pretty clever job. I recognized the opening shot (the hand w/ cards) and the soundtrack from GRAND SLAM (1933). It worked quite well giving one an idea of what the opening might have looked like. > I know the guy who created that, and yes, he's a clever guy! He did a great job on that, but as I told him last time I saw him, if he wanted to really be authentic and redo the audio on it, I know what the original music was for the opening titles of CONVENTION CITY and if he wanted to do it over using that tune, at least we purists would not be fooled. But then again, how many people would actually know the difference? But I did... Anyway, the original opening titles music for CONVENTION CITY was the tune "Lonely Lane" written by Sammy Fain & Irving Kahal, introduced by Dick Powell in the Warner Bros. feature COLLEGE COACH which was released the month before CONVENTION CITY. Dick Powell also recorded the song for Brunswick Records. So it was still a current popular song when audiences heard it in CONVENTION CITY.

> {quote:title=Mad66 wrote:}{quote} >Question... *How do you get your responses to include the big white box with the text from the >person you are directly responding to ?* ... (like "Scottman wrote: ... ) > Click on the quotation marks above the box where you type in your response.

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote} > > Anyone else out there who still uses this technology from another age? Come clean, tell the truth, confession is good for the soul. > Absolutely! VHS video tapes. 78 RPM records, 45's, LP's. Cassette tapes. And I don't ever intend to give up any of them. I still don't care for CD's & DVD's but unavoidably have some (but not nearly as many as records & tapes).

> {quote:title=PrinceSaliano wrote:}{quote} > Charley starred in over 30 comedy shorts during 1937-40. > Best title...SOUTH OF THE BOUDOIR > Charley Chase actually starred in 20 shorts for Columbia Pictures between 1937 and 1940. He wrote, produced and/or directed at least 15 others that he did not appear in during that time at Columbia.

> {quote:title=hamradio wrote:}{quote} > A twist on your original post, did the people of, lets say the 1940's found the old vaudeville performers funny? The answer may be, no - too old hat. I have a sample of this old form of entertainment, "The Beau Brummels - Shawn and Lee" (continue below photo) > > > > and even though they brought the house down back then, today we can't even recognise the comedy concept. > LOVE Shaw & Lee! Their 1928 Vitaphone short "The Beau Brummels" is one of the funniest things I've EVER seen. And "Going Places" (1930) is almost as good. Unfortunately they don't appear to be on YouTube, but here are a couple clips of Al & Sam from the 1950 Lippert feature "Hollywood Varieties": And:

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote} > > Now I'm watching Charlie in the one where there are four of him, four brothers that all look alike. >Four Parts, 1934. > That's a favorite of mine! And if you watch closely and count 'em, you'll see that Charley actually plays ten parts in the film, not only four! A funny bit by Our Gang kid Stymie, and two of my favorite Charley Chase songs - this one's a winner! And personally I enjoy this one as it features in an unbilled role as the dentist assistant, Virginia Karns who I got to know in her later years and who became a friend. A very nice lady. She was best friends with leading lady Betty Mack and would tell me things about Charley and Betty that let's just say, I haven't read elsewhere.

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote} > Dang, I thought I was going nuts. > > I was watching a Charlie Chase film I recorded last month, and the picture started freezing up, like what sometimes happens on some TCM films. So I think Ive got a bad copy of the short. > > But then Charlie Chase starts commenting about the picture freezing up. > > He starts to jump out of a car, and he freezes in mid air for a few seconds. Then he started again and landed on the ground. He told his girlfriend, Im sorry about that delay when I got out of the car. > > Boing! Huh? Wait a minute. How did he know in 1935 that my TCM picture would freeze up in 2011? > > Yikes. > > Finally, I figured out that the freeze frames were part of his film way back in 1935. > That was one of the more unusual and very clever Chase shorts. It's called LIFE HESITATES AT 40 (1935). http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027885/combined

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote} > We can see The Hunt for Red October on other cable channels, but we cant see The Bitter Tea of General Yen, Wild Boys of the Road, The Phantom Lady, or other old classics on any other cable channel. We cant find films from the 20s, 30s, and 40s on any other channel, except for a few Fox films from the 40s on the Fox Channel (third tier), but we can find plenty of modern movies from the 80s, 90s, and 00s on several other channels. > I have to say that I agree totally with Fred and PrinceSaliano on this, and always have. I have little interest in or use for anything post-1960. But, guys, did you ever think how overwhelming it would be if TCM really did show films from only before 1960 or before 1950? We'd have no time off, no breaks! At least all the new & recent junk ... I mean "modern classics" that TCM shows provides us with opportunities to catch up on old DVD or video recordings and to do other stuff like sleeping, etc.