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  1. > {quote:title=gagman66 wrote:}{quote}

    > It> The really Big and I do mean BIG surprise is the premier of *WHAT PRICE GLORY? (1926)!* That has never ever been shown on TCM before. It was on AMC in 1996, but is rarely on TV. Probably not shown anywhere since that time?

    >

    gagman:

    How well I remember when AMC showed "What Price Glory" back in 1996. A lot of people missed it because all the listings said it would be the 1952 version so they didn't tune in. Then surprise!! on came the very rarely televised 1926 version! And I liked that it had the 1930 music score. I hope it does when shown on TCM, too.

  2. > {quote:title=filmlover wrote:}{quote}

    >

    > Ramon Novarro and Helen Hayes in The Son-Daughter. I don't recognize that one. Is that new?

    >

     

    "The Son-Daughter" is not new to TCM. It's been on before, but not as often as....well, we all know the movies that have been on too often!

  3. > {quote:title=SRHall wrote:}{quote}

    > Im very pleased to see a day dedicated to Clarence Brown. The rarely shown Navy Blues (1930) with William Haines.

    >

    I just watched "Navy Blues" a few weeks ago (on a very old tape, from TCM about 1994). It's a fun one and I'm happy to see it coming up again. Good role for Karl Dane.

  4. > {quote:title=karlofffan wrote:}{quote}

    > > {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote}

    > > >Someone wrote in the comments that they were afraid maybe the TCM Film Festival was TCM's farewell bash and that the channel was going to go away at the end of April.

    > >

    > > I wondered how long it would take for that to come up.

    >

    > Actually, the world is going to come to an end at the end of April and only TCM knows it. Shhhh! Don't tell anybody!

    >

     

    Hey, if TCM goes away, what else is there?

  5. > {quote:title=richardny4me wrote:}{quote}

    > The 90 minute version did exist, however I am not sure if that is what premiered. Based on this note on IMDB, I am surmising the "fantasy" sequences remain intact:

    >

    > "The film was previewed at 90 minutes and featured scenes with Julie Bishop as Alice's sister, Harvey Clark as Father William, and Lucien Littlefield as Father William's son. These scenes were deleted and the general release version runs 75 minutes."

    >

    >

    > I have not purchased a copy yet, but when I do I will certainly check out the credits to see if those names are mentioned, however as has been noted, the running time of the DVD is 77 minutes, not 75.

    >

     

    Those names are not in the opening credts, further evidence that they were cut from the film before it was released in 1933.

  6. > {quote:title=CelluloidKid wrote:}{quote}

    > *_Per Wikipedia_:*

    >

    >

    > This film has never been released on VHS or DVD, although it is occasionally broadcast on cable television channels such as Turner Classic Movies. The original running time was 90 min., but when Universal Studios bought the television rights in the late-1950s, it was cut to 77 minutes.

    >

    >

    > The DVD of: _Alice in Wonderland_ (1933 film), run time is: 1 Hr. 17 Mins... which means the film is cut ...so what has been cut out!?!?!

    >

    I believe this is all we'll ever see of this version. Some material reportedly was cut before release in 1933, but if that footage were found and restored to this new DVD release that would be Major Film Restoration News!

     

    I just checked two different sources (film industry Trade Papers) from 1933 to see what they reported the running time to be, and both said 75 minutes! (Two minutes short of the actual correct timing).

     

    Descriptions of the footage cut in 1933 is in some books...I can't recall which right now, as so many of this film's stars have "Films of..." and other books about them (W.C. Fields, Cary Grant, Gary Cooper). But I believe it's in one of the Fields books where you'll find the cut scenes pretty well described.

     

    Has anyone ever seen anything longer than the 77-minute version of this movie?

  7. > {quote:title=growl wrote:}{quote}

    > OK I have to chime in here. I absolutely cannot watch Streetcar Named Desire. Stanley is a cruel pig, Stella must be a vapid sex maniac to stay with him and let him treat her sister so badly. Karl Malden's character is the only one who is marginally decent, but judgemental and shallow. Vivien Leigh is a pathetic mental case. I can't stand any of these people. Why is this such a great film?

    >

    I agree with every word you said!

    And how annoying, no, infuriating that the clip of Brando screaming "Stella!" is used so often in montages and promos. I can't hit the mute button quick enough if it looks like it's about to come on again.

  8. > {quote:title=HollywoodGolightly wrote:}{quote}

    >

    > Fun facts about Robert Taylor:

    >

    > * He was the first American actor to appear in film made in England - *A Yank at Oxford* (1938).

    >

    Did you mean to say this, or something similar that didn't come out as you intended?

    There were a lot of other American actors and actresses who made films in England before Robert Taylor made "A Yank at Oxford" in 1938.

     

    In just a few minutes I thought of the following:

    Edward Everett Horton

    Laura LaPlante

    June Clyde

    Thelma Todd

    Edgar Kennedy

    Ben Lyon

    Bebe Daniels

    Jimmy Durante

    Zelma O'Neal

    Mary Brian

    Charles "Buddy" Rogers

    Harry Langdon

    Douglas Fairbanks, Jr.

    Alan Hale

     

    Here are some of the titles of their British films:

     

    Edward Everett Horton:

    "Soldiers of the King" (1934)

    "The Private Secretary" (1935)

    "The Man in the Mirror" (1936)

     

    Laura LaPlante:

    "The Church Mouse" (1934)

    "The Girl in Possession" (1934)

    "Widow's Might" (1935)

    "Man of the Moment" (1936)

     

    June Clyde:

    "Charing Cross Road" (1935)

    "She Shall Have Music" (1935)

    "Dance Band" (1935)

    "No More Monkey Business" (1935)

    "King of the Castle" (1936)

    "Land Without Music" (1936)

    "Make-up" (1937)

    "Let's Make a Night of It" (1937)

    "Aren't Men Beasts!" (1937)

    "School for Husbands" (1937)

    "Intimate Relations" (1937)

    "Sam Small Leaves Town" (1937)

     

    Thelma Todd:

    "You Made Me Love You" (1933)

     

    Edgar Kennedy:

    "Hey! Hey! USA" (1938)

     

    Ben Lyon:

    "I Spy" (1934)

    "Stardust" (1937)

     

    Bebe Daniels:

    "The Song You Gave Me" (1933)

    "A Southern Maid" (1935)

    "Treachery on the High Seas" (1937)

     

    Jimmy Durante:

    "Land Without Music" (1936)

     

    Zelma O'Neal:

    "Spring in the Air" (1934)

    "Freedom of the Seas" (1934)

    "Mister Cinders" (1934)

    "There Goes Susie" (1935)

    "Joy Ride" (1935)

    "Give Her a Ring" (1936)

    "Let's Make a Night of It" (1937)

     

    Mary Brian:

    "Amazing Quest of Ernest Bliss" (USA: "Romance and Riches") (1936)

     

    Charles "Buddy" Rogers:

    "Dance Band" (1936)

    "Let's Make a Night of It" (1937)

     

    Harry Langdon:

    "Stardust" (1937)

     

    Douglas Fairbanks, Jr.:

    "The Rise of Catherine the Great" (1934)

    "Man of the Moment" (1935)

    "Mimi" (1935)

    "The Amateur Gentleman" (1936)

    "The Accused" (1936)

    "Jump for Joy" (1937)

     

    Alan Hale:

    "Jump for Joy" (1937)

     

    And I'd better stop here because I keep on thinking of more!

  9. > {quote:title=filmlover wrote:}{quote}

    > Sony is releasing four Robin Hood films on DVD with a May 11th release date:

    >

    > *The Bandit of Sherwood Forest*

    > *The Prince of Thieves*

    > *Rogues of Sherwood Forest*

    > *Sword of Sherwood Forest*

    >

    > http://www.classicflix.com/sony-four-robin-hood-films-coming-a-682.html?osCsid=a3d8a526988eb3b21946c24245f0e3d3

    >

    Taking advantage of the elaborate castle sets constructed for "The Bandit of Sherwood Forest" (1946) a few Three Stooges shorts were written to take place in such settings. Even props, costumes and bits of the "Bandit..." music score were reused in the shorts. Of course, Sony has the Three Stooges shorts already out in excellent DVD sets, but those shorts would have made nice DVD extras for these new Robin Hood releases.

  10. > {quote:title=stavos wrote:}{quote}

    > hee,hee, you're correct.

    > I initially listed Sinatra but then I thought that Elvis might, just might, still be in the building so I decided to list him instead.

    >

    > As for getting back on the topic, I'd say it's now, finally, a dead horse and hey, by all means, let's give it a tribute and preempt something, LOL.

    >

    Actually I should apologize for making it sound as if you were wrong. Sure, Sinatra's version came first, but a lot of people identify the song with Elvis, so there's really nothing wrong with what you said. And you know what...Frankie may have come first, but on the Billboard national Top 100 charts the Elvis version actually was the bigger hit, reaching # 22 in 1977. Sinatra's record made it only to #27 in 1969.

  11. > {quote:title=MaisieR wrote:}{quote}

    > > {quote:title=musicalnovelty wrote:}{quote}

    > > Three Stooges short "Violent is the Word for Curly" (1938).

    > > http://threestooges.net/episode.php?id=33

    > >

    >

    > That's my favorite Stooges short, since it contains the wonderful "Swingin' the Alphabet" musical number.

    >

    > Second, for me, is THE WOMAN HATER'S CLUB, since it's ALL music!

    >

    I too have always tended to like the Three Stooges films that had a lot of music in them. And that certainly applies to the one you mentioned, called WOMAN HATERS, from 1934:

     

    http://threestooges.net/episode.php?id=1

     

    That short actually was not originally part of The Three Stooges shorts series, but an entry in a series of musical shorts Columbia was producing in 1933 - 1934. It was the fifth entry in the series of eight. The first four had all new musical scores written and recorded, but for Columbia at that time that must have been considered too expensive. So for the next two in the series (including WOMAN HATERS) the scores were taken from the existing recorded scores of the first four, and edited together into "new" musical scores. And an excellent job they did, too. I am sure that hardly any viewer then or now had any idea that every note of music we hear in WOMAN HATERS was edited together from earlier films. Even the song known to fans as "My Life, My Love, My All" was taken from the first short in the series where it was originally entitled "At Last" (with different lyrics).

    The final two shorts in the series had less music and more comedy, which was even more of a budget cut for the studio.

     

    This series of eight Columbia musical shorts are among my all-time favorite films ever. And the name of the series was: "Musical Novelties". (Hey wouldn't that make a good username...)

  12. > {quote:title=TikiSoo wrote:}{quote}

    > > {quote:title=musicalnovelty wrote:}{quote}

    > > Nothing against stars Andrews and Garner, but I'm fine with just the 1933 and 1935 versions:

    >

    > I have to disagree, although admittedly it's really just a matter of opinion.

    > Although I adore Jessie Matthews in First A Girl it's definitely not as solid a film as V/V.

    >

    > The 80's was a time for gays "coming out" in the US so V/V was a timely subject. The entire part of Garner's embarrassment being attracted to a man was able to be shown in this modern version, adding humor to the story line.

    > The three principle performances were also solid & strong; I'm a huge Julie Andrews fan and she didn't make enough great films and anything showcasing over the top Preston is worth watching. These roles were tailor made for them, although I have a tough time buying gorgeous Julie as a man. (although she somewhat resembles David Bowie of the same period)

    >

    > First A Girl was much less about gender bending and just more a fun musical. I don't recall any deep moral dilemma for the charactors, they just went with the flow of things, more implied than blatant.

    > I have to say, this is one rare time I think the story improved by being able to show more.

    >

    You make some excellent points. The 1982 version probably has great performances and all kinds of other delights for those who enjoy 1980's movies. But you now, I'm just always taking any opportunity I can to repeat how I'd rather see anything from the 1930's over anything from the 1980's.

     

    I'm also a major Jessie Matthews fan so right there her version is going to be a favorite. And I recently watched the original 1933 German version starring Renate Muller and even with no English subtitles enjoyed it more than any 1980's movie I can recall.

  13. > {quote:title=stavos wrote:}{quote}

    > But as you point out, they have a long history, as the Elvis song goes, of doing it their way.

     

    >

    "My Way" was a hit for Frank Sinatra first. Sure Elvis did it later, but so did a lot of others (including, probably its writer Paul Anka). But it was first a hit for Sinatra in 1969.

     

    Okay, now back to our topic...

  14. > {quote:title=Moodri wrote:}{quote}

    > Today TCM posted the shorts that will air on Tuesday, March 2, the penultimate day of their annual "31 Days of Oscar" festival. One of them is *Forbidden Passage*, scheduled for 9:09am ET. Did TCM's programmers know, or care, that this short was already shown on February 11 at 5:37am? I realize that there are different calendar months involved here, but there should be no repeats during the Oscar festival.

    >

    The fact that the shorts are exempt from the gimmick of the linking of an actor from each film to the next, so are they exempt from the "no repeats" rule, too, I guess.

  15. > {quote:title=JarrodMcDonald wrote:}{quote}

    > I appreciate the corrections.

    >

    > The important thing is that his name could not be put on some of his work for several years. He was the director of Marion Davies' splendid silent film THE RED MILL. I think that was a good collaboration, and you can see his touches all over that one.

    >

    I have the Press Sheets for most of the Educational shorts that Arbuckle directed in the late 1920's & early 1930's and they contain numerous stories and references to the great talented comedy director William Goodrich, but never mention his real name. But it really was no secret at the time who Goodrich really was. Still, I have to give credit to whoever it was at Warner Bros. who finally said we're going to sign him up for a series of quality shorts and use his REAL NAME. If Roscoe had to die in 1933 at least he lived just long enough to have the satisfaction and respect of finally seeing his real name used and accepted.

  16. > {quote:title=Edgecliff wrote:}{quote}

    > Am I mistaken, or wasn't LADY IN THE DARK scheduled for the Rogers festival?

    <

    No, LADY IN THE DARK was not scheduled for March, but when the April schedule was first posted, it was listed for April 28. It now is nowhere to be found in the April schedule.

    I was looking forward to that one.

    We can hope it will be re-scheduled when they're sure they can get the print.

  17. > {quote:title=JarrodMcDonald wrote:}{quote}

    > Another significant high & low in the film biz: ROSCOE 'FATTY' ARBUCKLE.

    >

    > After his notorious scandals and subsequent trials (three of them), his time in the spotlight was effectively ended. But he still had friends in Hollywood and he went to work directing some comedies, with his real name blotted out and a pseudonym used in its place. His alter ego? 'Will B. Goode.' (As in a pun for 'will be good.')

    >

    > Supposedly, Fatty had just signed a deal to begin starring in a series of new films and his career was on the upswing again, when he died of unexpected health issues at a relatively young age.

    >

    No, the "Will B. Good" story is just that...a story. Roscoe never used that name professionally. Reportedly it was just suggested by his good friend Buster Keaton as a gag. The alias that Roscoe used was for his writing and directing jobs after the scandal, and right up through 1932 was William Goodrich, his father's name. Then came his successful comeback with six starring comedy shorts at Warner Bros. / Vitaphone. And finally under his real name.

    It was a starring feature film contract that he'd just signed when he died in 1933, not one for a continuation of the series of shorts.

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