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I agree with you Orson4ever, and I'm sure that most people here do, too. My last post was really being directed at the "Prof". I've stated in at least two of his threads this morning that this "topic", and the topic of Religion has had adequate discussion by anyone interested in them by now, and it's purely my personal belief that enough has been said about them, and we can stop batting them around now. I will thank you for your post though, Orson4ever. Your points are consistent with the majority.
In the evolution of at least three recent threads on our Boards, we have confused the past with the present, the discuss of Classics with a brand new film, "censorship" with a personal attack on openly identified Religions, the impact on children with the impact on adults, and opened up a debate concerning "political correctness" (or the lack of it) as if it shouldn't be important to various ethnic or religous groups in this day and age. I totally agree with you, and again, I think that most people here will also agree, that the concern for today's children seeing ethnic slurs and harmful and slanderous stereotypes being interpreted as "harmless fun" is NOT "harmless"...and not funny, either. I'm only hopeful that if we must enter into these kinds of "discussions" that we make it very clear what is being talked about (no hidden agenda's...no smoke screens), and make every effort not to offend anyone else who is reading/posting with us by launching personal attacks at anyone else for any reason. ML
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Prof.,you're correct in clarifying that a thread like this one might be "healthy and educational if it avoids personal attacks"...which this one did not right from the get-go, and the consequences could be very clearly seen as the thread progressed.
Unfortunately, there are too many people among us who too easily, too quickly, and too deeply fall into the "personal attack" arena in a thread like this one was...which is anything but "healthy" where Community Discussions are concerned. Others, out of boredom, just like to see how much trouble they can stir up. I hope that this isn't your plan, too, by keeping threads like this one going long after there has been adequate discussion by anyone interested in the discussion. Let's move on, please.
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I believe that if everyone will read carefully through the "My Wild Irish Rose" thread, you will see that everything "Professorecho" reiterates in this thread has already been adequately discussed there by several of us. Why do we need another thread to go over the same issues and thoughts again? ML
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Well Antar...I guess I'm the only person left here now who has not seen every movie ever made.
But, I agree with Path in that because this is a "discussion Forum", it's impossible in all cases to avoid giving away the ending. If people could remember to do it, I suppose that a "spoiler" would at least be considerate...but there are simply going to be times when someone reads right past the "spoiler" anyway.The only time that I really agree that it's important NOT to give away the ending is if we are discussion a mystery or any other movie where the ending is too important to the plot to give out....the kind of movie that it really would ruin it to know the ending if you hadn't seen the Classic yet.
Perhaps we can agree on some kind of compromise re. this issue? ML
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Happy Birthday to one of my favorite Marine's, R. Lee Ermey! My brother and my son are the others
. I didn't realize the extensive filmography Mr. Ermey has until I checked in IMDb. Impressive! ML
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For Mary Pickford, a "Shirley Temple", since she was the woman originally reponsible for the Ringlets hair style that Shirley would later make equally popular for children everywhere. ML
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Actually, I liked Wallace Beery better than Marilyn Monroe.....put together! LOL,ML
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Thanks, Stella....that's what I was thinking, too...right down to Astaire's obvious tribute to Bill Robinson in "Swing Time". Anyone who trashes Astaire for his tribute to one of the greatest dancer's ever is too sick and twisted to be posting with us. Well, anyway...that's what I think of this "insensitivity" crud concerning Minstrel and "black face" that has become malignant with some people who lack the ambition or creativity to fight against racism in better and more meaningful ways. God help us all! ML
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This thread totally cracks me up, LOL! Excuse me? This is a site provided by TCM...what do any of us here care about what's going on with AMC, anyway??? I don't get it. Doesn't this whole thread belong on the AMC message board, or is it just the "in thing" about endless griping and complaining that makes it important see it posted here? I'm sorry, I just can't stop laughing! ML
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I guess I've missed all the movies where Fred Astaire danced in Black Face. Please name me a few. ML
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Lunch with Mrs. Robinson might be kind of interesting.
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Venereados, very interesting observation! I hadn't thought of that before, and I think you are correct. Thanks for your thoughts! ML
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I'll tell you what. Since this tread was started, I have taped a bunch of Silents that I've never seen before, and I'm totally amazed that every single one of them has seemed to be to be better than the one the week before! For sure, I would never be able to say that TCM is not making every attempt to show us the Silents, and also the best of them.
In the time that I've been watching TCM and posting at this site (less than a year), I have seen an entire series of Harold Lloyd's films, and also Lon Chaney's (including documentaries!), and this month I'm getting Charlie Chaplin....all of this first time viewings for me! I sincerely wish that TCM could get Buster Keaton and Laurel & Hardy for us, but I can't be grateful enough for the Silents we are seeing on "Silent Sunday's". This coming Sunday evening we will be shown "Intolerance" (1916) with Lillian Gish, which is yet another one that ranks among the best ever filmed.
I'm sorry, but I fail to see what there is to complain about, Jackpickford1.
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What an interesting bunch of actors in the Birthday listing today, Mongo...and how great to have six of them still living! I must wish Karl Malden a Very Happy Birthday. Great man...great actor, and I was so happy to finally see him acknowledged for his wonderful contributions to our films this past year.
And, I continue to miss Ross Martin. I found him to be a very "emotional" actor, much along the lines of Martin Landau, and always liked that about him.
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Was it Susan Hayward?
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Excuse me for butting in, Path...I know that you were addressing Moviejoe...but I just wanted say that a new Private Screening with Pat Neal is great news! She has frequently been interviewed, but to have Robert Osborne doing this one will really be something. ML
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I know! I know! It was Shane!
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Moviejoe, your post about "The Man Who Came to Dinner" is interesting to me because I just saw a special on the Bravo channel in the past week that concerns it as a Broadway Musical, and that James Lipton (the Host for "Inside the Actor's Studio, also on Bravo) did the lyrics for. When all sorts of horrible things were done to the musical, it failed on Broadway and all of the music was placed in a "trunk" that was actually a stage prop, and it disappeared for over 30-years. Because most of the props were taken into New Jersey and burned, it was thought by Mr. Lipton that all the music and lyrics were burned and would never be heard again.
However, someone located the "trunk" recently and returned the music to the composer and mr. Lipton, and they have since brought together some well-known people who have just completed a CD. The play was called "Sherry", so the CD will also go by this title, and it sounds to me like it is excellent....very similar to Sondheim's music and lyrics, from what little I heard.
Just thought I'd share this (smile). You were right about "The Man Who Came to Dinner" being an ensemble movie. It's fun to watch, but I don't really think of it being that much of a Bette Davie vehicle, either.
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Hey there "Harlowkeatongirl" and fellow Montanan...where is your hometown? I'm in Missoula, and if you tell me you're in Bozeman, we're in big trouble (smile). But, if it turns out we're fairly close in miles, let's get together some time. It appears that more than a few of us here truly are students of the Silents and the comedians of that day, and that really excites me!
I'm "just about" as big a Keaton fan as I am a Chaplin fan, and I would love to read the book about him that you and LTL are talking about. Is it good? And, if "The General" is finally out on DVD, and is as good as someone reported, I'll have that on my Christmas List for sure!
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Boy, Mongo, you really know how to pick 'um! I kind of feel the same way Stella does...my favorite is the one I'm watching right now.
I like each of them for such different reasons, and yet they are for exactly the same reasons! You're making me crazy, Mongo, and it appears that I'm not the only one!!
Ok. I'll say (in this moment) James Stewart. And, I do not have a valid or sensible reason for selecting him. I just "like" him today, that's all. And, one of the things I've always "liked" about James Stewart was that his marriage lasted for nearly as many years as I've lived. Now, that's really important! A man who can keep it together that long with the same woman has got to be either very special, or a damned good actor! Thanks, Mongo! ML
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"...they didnt want competition, they weren't ready for a Black to be fully beautiul and glamourous, that's why they usually used homely looking blacks in films..."
I have always drooled over Lena Horne's beauty. I still do! You can't seriously believe that it's correct to call her "homely"???
What is this fixation about "beauty" that you have, and what is your point? I'm having a difficult time understanding where you're coming from, and why it's as important as you seem to believe it is to talk about "Beauty" exclusively with us so much of the time. There is a lot more about all of these women than their "beauty". And, let's not forget that Hattie McDaniel was not known as a "raving beauty", but far from being "homely" (whatever you mean by that term), and she was rightly awarded an Oscar in 1939, and remained very much a favorite among white American people for the duration of her outstanding career in film. ML
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Hi Rhonda, and Welcome. I'm still catching Davis films that I've never seen prior to this year, so I can't say quite as easily right now which is my "favorite". I'm starting to look for different things IN each movie more than I used to, and that includes being able to accept the "mood" or "tone" of the film, and how well it was acted by the cast. So, with Bette Davis, I'm starting to separate her work by Genre (comedy, tragedy, drama, horror, etc.), and the one I like best on any given day depends a lot on my own mood and what I'm in the mood to watch for a couple of hours (smile).
There are many films of hers that are established Classics still because of how well she acted her roles in them. You have been given a listing of the most "popular" ones already, but I would have to add "The Great Lie" (1941) to those listed because you get a "double treat" in this movie...Mary Astor was also in it, and received the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress for her performance. So, I really like this film. TCM has it in their Library, so watch for it. ML
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That does it! I'm sick to death of people who post outrageous messages at this site, and then have the gall to tell us that if we don't like it to not read it, or to leave the Forum! Screw that attitude! This is a "message board"....people come here to read! I do not appreciate being told that I'm not welcome to read whatever I open.
Msladysoul, your comments about Hedy Lamarr were far beyond the scope of "personal opinion"...they were much, much closer to a personal attack, and even though much of what you said was so twisted that it didn't even make any sense, that "attack" came through loud and clear. If you dislike Hedy Lamarr to the degree that you feel it's necessary to bash her as you have here, then I pity you. If you had to mention her, wouldn't it have been enough to have just said that you don't find her to be as attractive as many other people do, and leave it at that? Was it really all that necessary to slam her as you did, as if "beauty" is the only thing that matters about Hedy Lamarr? She also happened to be a very decent actress, or has that also been lost on you?
You also need to understand that if you post here with a chip on your shoulder as large as the one you've presented in this thread, you can bet that people here will step up and relieve you of it's burden. You seem to have a fairly decent knowledge about Hollywood stars, therefore I hope to see much better posts from you than this one in the future. ML
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Could it be that it was at this Atlanta Thrasher's site that LadyM left a message that she felt it was necessary to apologize for here...because I never was able to find a post here that was offensive in any way about Joan Fontaine. This really is funny, and just a little bit scary, too! ML
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Marilyn Monroe or Jayne Mansfield?
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Glad you caught that, LTL! Didn't you just love Jean Hagan in that movie?
I'll try to be a little more "serious" today, and say that I really agree with Loliteblue that Monroe (as difficult as she was on the sets, and messed up about needing to be loved) really gave up some very good performances that still stand up to today's critiques. ML