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LonesomePolecat

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  1. I think that's an awesome definition. As a young whippersnapper I have a very different view of what "new" is compared to others, and what "old" is. Like I remember someone saying nothing released after 1969 should be shown on TCM, but to me "Amadeus" (1984) is a classic movie. it's great, and it's old enough to have stood some kind of test of time. Then, to me, even newer than that is "Hunt for Red October" (1990 I think). Here again. Great, old enough to have been somewhere, and I don't remember it being released, so to me it's not a "new" movie. But to someone who saw "Lawrence of Arabia" or "Miracle on 34th Street" when they were brand new, 1990 is too recent. Or, hey, I go to church with a woman who just turned 109. This means she remembers Max Sennet comedies. To her, having seen the 1920s Ben Hur, the 1959 Ben Hur might be too new to be called a classic.

     

    I also think foreign films have a whole other standard as far as time goes, and that's probably because, as the "definition" goes, it stands out in a special way. It has to to be seen in America out of all the great films from other countries.

     

    Not that I want all 1990s and 2000s movies on TCM, or even very many very often, but, as it was said, "classic" is subjective.

  2. To get back to Musicals, then, I was watching the American Masters ep about Jerome Robbins and I remembered a musical number that I adore more than pretty much any other musical number:

     

    The bottle dance in *Fiddler on the Roof* --gets me every time!

  3. What about Gene Kelly? A great actor, not just a musical performer.

     

    Dick Powell is a good one to discuss. He got better as the years went on. In the early years he was pretty stagey and awful (Gold DIggers, 42nd Street, Midsummer's, etc), but starting, I think, with Christmas in July, he becomes a much better actor. I guess he just needed experience and a good director, eh?

     

    Fred Astaire is kind of the same way. His early acting isn't very good, but later on he does better and better, so by the time he's in On the Beach he's a good actor who doesn't have to sing or dance to be cast in a film. (Though why waste him like that?)

     

    On that, a person with a lovely singing voice, in fact a professional singer, who did a great job acting, IMHO, was Petula Clark, who was the lead opposite Fred Astaire in Finian's Rainbow. I was surprised at how good she was.

     

    And a "singer" who can't act? Esther WIlliams. :)

  4. I actually got sucked into The Heiress when it was on TV recently, having not seen it in YEARS. Brilliant movie, and appropriate for Oscar month. I don't feel like it's shown to death, but then I guess any movie would seem like it's been shown to death if you don't want to see it more than once every few years.

     

    Though we complain about Oscar month (yes, "we"--I don't like all the 70s, 80s, 90s, and especially 2000s movies, especially the R-rated ones), they wouldn't do it if it didn't get viewers. Maybe Oscar month pays for the other amazing 11 months. And, hey, they are showing several movies that they never show and that I am excited to tape (yes I still use a VCR) and add to my collection, like Amadeus and Cyrano de Bergerac (1990).

     

    To paraphrase Lincoln, "You can please some of the people all the time and all of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time."

  5. I ADORE the Marx Brothers!!! But not their films past Day at the Races. :) I think they are so funny. Wordplay, slapstick, and musical humor! Hysterical, clever puns, innuendo, and instrument playing too. Oh how I love them.

     

    But I know lots of people that don't get the jokes, aka think the jokes are funny, so they hate them.

     

    Therefore it would seem that the Marx Brothers polarize people, doesn't it? Interesting....

  6. 1) Your favorite Fred & Ginger dance number? *I'm Putting All My Eggs in One Basket* from Follow the Fleet because they're being funny, which is a change, and Fred looks snappy in a sailor costume

     

    2) Your favorite dancing partner for Gene Kelly? *Donald O'Connor* of course, but for females no one but *Cyd Charisse* dances as well as him for it to be fully satisfying

     

    3) Your favorite Marx Brother musical number? *Freedonia's Going to War* from Duck Soup

     

    4) Your favorite moment of singing in a film that is not a musical? Probably *The Man in the Flying Trapeze* from It Happened One Night

    But if you don't count "Here Comes the Groom" as a musical (they sing a few times, but I don't know), then it's *In the Cool Cool Cool of the Evening* with Bing Crosby and Jane Wyman, because it was all in one take, and it's a great song

     

    5) Your favorite moment of dancing in a film that is not a musical?

    The entire Gene Kelly segment, but especially *On Our Little Houseboat Built For Two* from "What a Way to Go" --- it's a parody of musical numbers, but it has two real dancers in it: Gene Kelly and Shirley MacLaine. It makes fun of lots of old musicals. Musically it mocks dubbing, Nelson Eddy & Jeanette MacDonald, and quotes other musicals: "Anchors aweigh and hit the deck, Louisa!". Dance-wise it also directly quotes from Singin' in the Rain. How appropo, since Gene is really dancing.

     

    6) Favorite musical number not featuring Astaire or Kelly?

    *Cool* from West Side Story

     

    Edited by: LonesomePolecat on Feb 1, 2011 6:36 PM

  7. I didn't think it was all black and white like you said. I mean we hate O'Brien, and she seems pure evil, but right after she moves the soap, she looks in the mirror and says "This isn't you" and turns to prevent disaster. When it's too late she feels remorse. She isn't suddenly liked by everyone, but she has realized she can take her snideness too far, and that Thomas has been a bad influence.

     

    Also, lady Mary, from the beginning a jerk who doesn't want to go into mourning for her fiance, starts rethinking her smugness and pride once she is humiliated.

  8. Ooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

     

    I'm excited!

     

    I hope everyone will join the fun. You'd be surprised how easy it is once you start to do it. And how fun. But I warn you----addicting. You find yourself watching movies thinking of ways it could fit with other movies, or thinking of filmmakers that never get featured, etc etc etc.

     

    I always ask for the list of previous SOTMs, since I like to have an SOTM that's not been used before. But this time I found it myself. Just to help out, in case you were wondering, here's the list:

     

    STAR OF THE MONTH:

     

    May 1994: Greta Garbo

    June 1994: Glenn Ford

    July 1994: Greer Garson

    Aug.1994: Edward G. Robinson

    Sept.1994: Barbara Stanwyck

    Oct.1994: Angela Lansbury

    Nov.1994 John Garfield

    Dec.1994:

     

    Jan.1995: Esther Williams

    Feb.1995: Ronald Reagan

    Mar.1995:

    Apr.1995: Doris Day

    May 1995: Myrna Loy

    June 1995: Errol Flynn

    July 1995: G. Kelly (Gene or Grace?)

    Aug.1995: Paul Muni

    Sept.1995: Jane Powell

    Oct.1995: Clark Gable

    Nov.1995: Barrymores

    Dec.1995: Bing Crosby

     

    Jan.1996: Deborah Kerr

    Feb.1996: Robert Young

    Mar.1996

    April 1996: Irene Dunne

    May 1996: James Stewart

    June 1996: Rosalind Russell

    July 1996: Fred Astaire

    Aug.1996: Ann Sheridan

    Sept.1996: Van Johnson

    Oct.1996: Kathryn Grayson

    Nov.1996: Robert Mitchum

    Dec.1996: Gary Cooper

     

    Jan.97: Jean Arthur

    Feb.97: Eleanor Parker

    Mar.97: 31 Days of Oscar

    Apr.97: Ava Gardner

    May 97: George Brent

    June 97: June Allyson

    July 97: John and Walter Huston (also Director of the Month)

    Aug.97: Cary Grant

    Sept.97: Ida Lupino

    Oct.97: Walter Pidgeon

    Nov.97: Katharine Hepburn

    Dec.97: Best of ?97

     

    Jan.1998: Lana Turner

    Feb.1998: Charlton Heston

    Mar.1998:31 Days of Oscar

    April 1998: Red Skelton

    May 1998: Olivia de Havilland

    June 1998: James Cagney

    July 1998: Lucille Ball

    August 1998: Joan Crawford

    Sept.1998: John Wayne

    Oct.1998: Cyd Charisse

    Nov.1998: Claude Rains

    Dec.1998: Best of ?98

     

    Jan.1999: Elizabeth Taylor

    Feb.1999: William Powell

    March 1999: 31 Days of Oscar (probably)

    April 1999: Dennis Morgan

    May 1999: Bette Davis

    June 1999: Mickey Rooney

    July1999: Natalie Wood

    August 1999: Peter Sellers

    Sept.1999: Norma Shearer

    Oct. 1999: Gregory Peck

    Nov. 1999: Ginger Rogers

    Dec. 1999: Burt Lancaster

     

    Jan. 2000: Debbie Reynolds

    Feb. 2000: Robert Ryan

    March 2000: 31 Days of Oscars (probably)

    April 2000: Spencer Tracy

    May 2000: Alexis Smith

    June 2000:Wallace Beery

    July 2000: Judy Garland

    August 2000: film debuts

    Sept 2000: Jane Wyman

    October 2000: Dick Powell

    Nov 2000: Frank Sinatra

    Dec. 2000: Lauren Bacall

     

    Jan. 2001: Elvis Presley

    Feb.2001: Jean Hagen

    March 2001: 31 Days of Oscar (probably)

    Apr.2001: Knighted Actors

    May 2001: Jean Harlow

    June 2001: W.C. Fields

    July 2001: Ann Sothern

    Aug.2001: James Garner

    Sept. 2001: Robert Taylor

    Oct. 2001: Lana Turner

    Nov.2001: Glenn Ford

    Dec.2001: The Marx Brothers

     

    Jan. 2002: Marlene Dietrich

    Feb. 2002: Kirk Douglas

    March 2002: 31 Days of Oscar

    April 2002: Barbara Stanwyck

    May 2002: Edward G. Robinson

    June 2002: Greta Garbo

    July 2002: Sidney Poitier

    Aug. 2002: Joan Crawford

    Sept. 2002: Van Heflin

    Oct. 2002: Final films

    Nov. 2002: Shelly Winters

    Dec. 2002: Montgomery Clift

     

    Jan. 2003: Doris Day

    Feb. 2003: John Garfield

    Mar. 2003: 31 Days of Oscar

    Apr. 2003: Harold Lloyd

    May 2003: Olivia de Havilland

    June 2003: TV Actors in Films

    July 2003: Lee Marvin

    Aug. 2003: 1st Summer Under the Stars (see below)

    Sept. 2003: James Mason

    Oct. 2003: Boris Karloff

    Nov. 2003: Shirley MacLaine

    Dec. 2003: David Niven

     

    Jan. 2004: Katherine Hepburn

    Feb.2004: 31 Days of Oscar

    Mar.2004: Charles Chaplin

    Apr. 2004: Judy Garland

    May 2004: Greer Garson

    June 2004: Cary Grant

    July 2004: Stars That Died Before Their Time

    Aug.2004: 2nd Summer Under the Stars (see below)

    Sept.2004: Myrna Loy

    Oct. 2004: Peter Lorre

    Nov.2004: Clark Gable

    Dec. 2004: James Stewart

     

    Jan.2005: Canadian Actors

    Feb. 2005: 31 Days of Oscar

    Mar. 2005: Claudette Colbert

    Apr. 2005: Errol Flynn

    May 2005: Orson Welles

    June 2005: Ingrid Bergman

    July 2005: Audrey Hepburn

    Aug. 2005: 3rd Summer Under the Stars (see below)

    Sept.2005: Greta Garbo

    Oct.2005: Robert Mitchum

    Nov.2005: Joan Fontaine

    Dec. 2005: Bing Crosby

     

    Jan. 2006: Robert Montgomery

    Feb.2006: 31 Days of Oscar

    Mar.2006: Nelson Eddy & Jeanette MacDonald

    Apr.2006: Deborah Kerr

    May 2006: Bette Davis

    June 2006: Anthony Quinn

    July 2006: Elizabeth Taylor

    Aug.2006: 4th Summer Under the Stars (see below)

    Sept.2006: William Holden

    Oct.2006: Child Stars

    Nov.2006: Lucille Ball

    Dec. 2006: Gary Cooper

     

    Jan.2007: Jean Arthur

    Feb.2007: 31 Days of Oscar

    Mar.2007: Gene Kelly

    Apr.2007: Rita Hayworth

    May 2007: John Wayne and Katherine Hepburn

    June 2007: Ida Lupino

    July 2007: Randolph Scott

    Aug.2007: 5th Summer Under the Stars (see below)

    Sept.2007: A Star is Born (starmaking/breakthrough performances)

    Oct.2007: Henry Fonda

    Nov.2007: Guest Programmer Month

    Dec.2007: Irene Dunne

    Jan.2008: James Cagney

    Feb.2008: 31 Days of Oscar

    Mar.2008: Acting Dynasties

    Apr.2008: Hedy Lamarr

    May 2008: Frank Sinatra

    June 2008: Sophia Loren

    July 2008: Rosalind Russell

    Aug.2008: 6th annual Summer Under the Stars (see below)

    Sept.2008: Kay Francis

    Oct.2008: Carole Lombard

    Nov.2008: Charles Laughton

    Dec. 2008: Joseph Cotton

     

    Jan. 2009: Jack Lemmon

    Feb. 2009: 31 Days of Oscar

    Mar. 2009: Ronald Reagan

    April 2009: Funny Ladies and 15th Anniversary

    May 2009: Sean Connery

    June 2009: Great Directors

    July 2009: Stewart Granger

    August 2009: Summer Under the Stars

    Sept. 2009: Claude Rains

    Oct. 2009: Leslie Caron

    Nov. 2009: Grace Kelly

    Dec. 2009: Humphrey Bogart

     

    Jan. 2010: ?The Method?

    Feb. 2010: 31 Days of Oscar

    March 2010: Ginger Rogers

    April 2010: Robert Taylor

    May 2010: Donna Reed

    June 2010: Natalie Wood

    July 2010: Gregory Peck

    August 2010: SUTS

    Sept. 2010: Vivien Leigh

    Oct. 2010: Fredric March

    Nov 2010 Ava Gardner

    Dec 2010 Mickey Rooney

     

    Jan 2011 Peter Sellers

    Feb 2011 31 Days of Oscar

     

    (if anyone will go through March and April to divine the next ones, feel free to post)

     

    GOOD LUCK!!

  9. How cool that Fiddler means so much to us all.

     

    I now want to see that Murder She Wrote. I guess no matter what TV show or Movie you're doing, if you have a jury room as part of the story, you have to reference it somehow. I love the episode of Monk where Monk gets on a jury and they have very obvious quotes, like "There's always one" and "And we go into extra innings," with of course Monk being the one who says not guilty.

  10. I guess 12 Angry Men is preachy, but to me it's just a great mystery. I don't even think about or notice the "message" aspect, only how the characters are revealed, how each one comes to the conclusion, and the usual funness of a whodunit. Every time I notice great character details.

     

    (But I did almost say Seven Brides for movies that I never get sick of.)

     

    Fiddler on the Roof is a show I did in community theater, too, which is part of my personal meaning.

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