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  1. I have really enjoyed reading your thoughts on this movie, Rick, and hope I'll have more time to respond in more detail in the near future. I'm sure that just because only a handful of people post detailed responses, it doesn't mean that there aren't a lot more movie fans who read this thread.

     

    Regarding young Charlie's age, I was just going to say that perhaps chronological age isn't all that important in the scheme of things, as much as maturity. You could have a very mature 17-year-old who is very wise to the ways of the world, and you could also have a 25-year-old young lady who was very immature or very naive and inexperienced and easily taken advantage of. Of course, it makes more sense that young Charlie would be relatively naive since she'd grown up in a small city where nothing much out of the ordinary seemed to happen.

     

    The movie also serves as a great counterpoint to all of Hitchcock's "innocent man wrongly accused" movies, since in this particular one, the man who is or has been pursued actually was guilty as suspected. He manages to elude the law enforcement element, but he doesn't escape from universal justice.

  2. Oh, believe me, I do hope that I will eventually have a chance to read not just "Great Expectations", but several other Dickens novels, as well. I am somewhat familiar with them because I read children's adaptations of these novels when I was growing up. Besides "Great Expectations" I would also like to read "The Pickwick Papers" and "The Old Antiquities Shop" (I think that's what it's called).

     

    Did you by any chance get to watch the 90s remake with Ethan Hawke and Gwyneth Paltrow?

  3. Sometimes I wish I could have the patience to take notes while watching a movie, but it's just too much work. If anything, modern technology makes it easier to actually post one's thoughts online while watching a movie. Well, at least when you watch it on video.

     

    Taking notes while watching a movie at a cinema is another thing altogether. Guess you either have to learn to write in the dark or have a small lamp with you that hopefully won't bother other moviegoers. I do wonder how professional reviewers manage.

  4. That's funny you should mention that, clore, I was just thinking that "Springfield Rifle" for some reason sounded very similar to "Winchester 73", so I guess you might be on to something.

     

    Even if it isn't the greatest western ever, I still would like to watch it, though.

  5. > Never read book, so not sure how 'faithful', but sure glad for a chance to see it.

     

    Not having read the book myself (or even the Cliff Notes), I am not sure how faithful it is to the Dickens novel, either. But I'm sure it was as close to it as they could possibly get, given the thematic restrictions that were in place at that time.

     

    And it's certainly a lot closer than the updated 90's version, which takes place in present-day New York City (the one starring Ethan Hawke, if you remember it).

  6. I hope nobody will mind my bringing up this old thread, because even though it hasn't been active for nearly two years it may still provide some interesting points to add to the discussion of "Shadow of a Doubt" that is currently ongoing in the Noir Gallery.

     

    Kirk, I think you have made a very good point of Joseph Cotten's brilliant acting allowing us to feel and understand both sides of Charlie. It isn't as though he has kept some of his darker thoughts completely hidden from the Newtons, as in that rather chilling dinnertime speech of his in which he speaks his mind about the "lazy rich widows" or something.

     

    I'm also glad to see several people here thought the movie improves with repeat viewings, as this is one Hitchcock movie I had not seen in a long time but hope to watch again a few more times in the near future, if time allows. The best classics are the ones that seem to get better the more times you watch them.

     

    And I also totally agree with the "murder talk" between Travers and Cronyn, I am sure Hitchcock must have relished those scenes and would himself have liked to take part in their conversations if he'd been able to write himself into the movie.

  7. Those are some very good points regarding Uncle Charlie's formative years. I'd like to watch that part of the movie again.

     

    Now, if nobody here minds, there is an earlier thread about "Shadow of a Doubt" that I found last night and was going to post to, because the people who posted there also made some good points that I found interesting. Or you can just follow this link:

     

    http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?threadID=73143&tstart=255

  8. "Not great but OK" would seem to describe a lot of the movies directed by Andr? De Toth, I guess. Still, sounds intriguing and at least it is available on regular DVD (no special-order-from-the-archives nonsense!) so I should like to watch this one, too, eventually.

  9. ChiO, I guess you said it better than I ever could have. Maybe I just didn't want to use the p-word, but I guess we're all adults here, hee hee.

     

    Anyway, it wasn't just the fact that it was a phallic symbol, but one that brought darkness with it. In the DVD documentary, Theresa Wright comments on it as well:

     

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  10. Took me a bit longer than I had hoped, but I finally managed to revisit "Shadow of a Doubt" and enjoyed it just as much as I remembered. I actually had forgotten I have the DVD from Universal, which happens to have a very nice documentary called "Beyond Doubt: The Making of Hitchcock's Favorite Film". I haven't watched all of the documentary yet, but there is a great soundbite where Peter Bogdanovich explains why he considers this one to be the first truly American movie made by Hitchcock, in the sense that it takes place in a setting that is palpably all-American (Santa Rosa), as opposed to other movies he'd made in America earlier which, he says, didn't really feel like they were taking place in a distinctly American milieu. It is also interesting in that it may (for all I remember) mark the beginning of Hitchcock's fascination with Bay Area settings, which would later on include the very memorable locations of "Vertigo" and "The Birds".

     

    I apologize because I've not yet had a chance to revisit all of the comments that had previously been posted here, and which I had hoped to read more closely after a fresh viewing. However on the suggestion that trains always represented a harbinger of evil in Hitchcock's films, I wonder whether that was the intended suggestion in the way Hitchcock used the train at the end of "North by Northwest". It certainly does seem to suggest something that isn't always necessarily evil. But that's just my interpretation.

  11. This sounds like a very exciting event to have attended. You're very lucky you were able to make it there for "The Iron Mask". While I like quite a few MGM movies, I am not a huge fan of its adaptation of "The Three Musketeers", even with a talented cast it doesn't quite have the same wonderful qualities that make Lester's versions so much fun through repeat viewings. In fact, I'd probably have to rate Lester's adaptations as the very best of the sound era.

  12. > That's an awesome photo, moviefan! I don't know if it's from a movie or just a publicity shot, but she looks stunning.

     

    Thank you, I just googled it. But from the way she posed, I am sure it has to be a publicity shot, and not necessarily a still linked to any particular motion picture.

     

    Here is another one:

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    Now, where is that Ann Sheridan thread somebody was supposed to start?

  13. A very interesting idea for a noir, redriver. I've to confess I wasn't really familiar with Robert De Grasse's work as DP, but looking at his filmography convinced me that you must have thought long and hard before selecting him. I think he could have made a really great-looking noir out of "Fright!".

  14. That is a great gallery, Arkadin! Thanks for sharing.

     

    Won't you do us the honor and start the Ann Sheridan thread? It seems to me you know as much about her as anyone else here in the forums, if not more.

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