misswonderly3
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> I haven't seen the new ad I guess I change channels fast too, but it reminds me of a Tide commercial that was running where the daughter asked the mother did she see her blouse and the mother says no. She had really worn it, well now they took out the response from Mom so I would guess they got replys from viewers that telling a lie is a lie. ..
What? I thought that ad was funny. People really need to lighten up. Why is everyone so poe-faced? And does anyone seriously think the TCM fan who made that remark literally kneels and prays to TCM every night before going to bed? Clearly they're being hyperbolic to make a point. Nobody can say anything tongue-in-cheek anymore, it's all taken up by the anti-evil police who like to cast stones for lack of anything better to do. I say, stop taking every little thing so seriously. There are plenty of serious things to be taken seriously, leave the non-essential items alone.
Edited by: misswonderly on Jan 10, 2011 2:13 PM
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Well, those in the movie business who are very old or ill should just make an effort and hold on until a few weeks into the new year. What do they mean by dying at such an inconvenient time, anyway?
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I just checked - this thread is 18 pages long, so far. Jonny, baby, that's kind of an accomplishment, a thread you started is still going on strong after more than two weeks. I should be so lucky (mine often fizzle out after a day or two...
)Anyway, here's another two cents worth from me:
I think people who love movies, who take them seriously as both an art form and as entertainment, tend to like all kinds of movies, from all eras. They like film, period. (Of course this doesn't mean they like all movies indiscriminately, just that they are open to viewing films from all time periods, including the current one, and all cultures.)
I, for example, care about movies a lot - silents, "cult" films, foreign films, black and white, colour, comedies, film noir, musicals, old, new, middle-aged, 30s, 90s, 2008, 1951, "indie" films, "mainstream" films, on and on. Some I like, some I hate, some I love. I like movies, I like that art form of " filmed entertainment", and I gravitate to Turner Classic Movies because I know it is a television station that seems to feel the same way I do . (Well, not that a television station per sec feels anything, I mean the people who represent and program it.)
I believe many people who love film, period, like old movies, "classics", whatever you want to label them, along with foreign films, silents, and current cinema. We just like good movies. I don't limit myself to a specific time period or genre, therefore I'm happy with TCM's varied programming.
To me, it's more a station for movie-lovers in general than for specifically and exclusively "old" movies (when's that? "Old" movies? Before 1990? Before 2011? Before 1960? It's arbitrary, and it's going to change with time, anyway.) I know this may be regarded as somewhat blasphemous, and I do appreciate TCM's focus on "classic" films, but I see this station as simply the one that recognizes and loves the art of film making for its own sake, and will broadcast good movies (as well as mediocre ones,sometimes, yes) from all genres and all time periods.
Why is this such a boiling issue for so many people? Why do so many tcm fans feel threatened (too strong a word? ok, disgruntled -there's a fun word) when Turner Classic Movies strays even slightly from a steady diet of American-made films from the 20s through to the 50s. If some of you who do not like other types of movies would perhaps give them a chance, check out a foreign film or one of the excellent movies that have been made since 1970 (or even 1990), you might be be pleasantly surprised. Even if you're not, you'll have expanded your movie-viewing experience for once, and that can only be a good thing.
Sorry if I sound condescending, I don't mean to be, but for goodness sake, folks, give it up ! Why not put some of the passion and energy you've been putting into the arguments on these boards into some worthy cause that will "make the world a better place." (sorry, that is condescending -I'm no Pollyanna myself.)
This is kind of like the Olympics of the TCM fan forums, how long can we spin out this argument, who will " win " the endurance event? And does anyone end up getting a medal? Je pense que non.
Edited by: misswonderly on Jan 10, 2011 1:48 PM
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For me to assume any kind of knowledge or adeptness at translating French into English would be the height of pretension on my part, so I'll leave it at that.
LaVern Baker, singing a happy song, Tweedledee Dee :
And here is a sweet picture of LaVern,baby:
Edited by: misswonderly on Jan 10, 2011 1:15 PM
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Well, "get to it", Valentine, baby, I'm dying to know what others think of this problematic film.
(Sorry, that sounds really bossy - I myself have literally dozens, possible hundreds -I've never really counted - of movies I've recorded but have yet to watch, not to mention all the ongoing tcm and other programming etc. So many movies, so little time ! )
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> > No one has any idea of what technology will be in place in that era eighty years down the road. One thing we can be certain of we won't be watching television in the manner we do now.
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> Multipurpose computer chips implanted in our brains, with direct access to whatever the internet has evolved in to, cell phone like communication, with video option to see out of the other person's eyes. As far as entertainment, movies, etc. goes, they will be transmitted directly to our optic nerves, in 3D, to us, wherever we are, and whatever programming we choose.
In that case, I'm very glad I'll almost certainly be dead by then.
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With apologies to cujas, (because I only semi know what I'm talking about here) I think she's referring to a poem by Paul Verlaine, a poem he wrote about his friend/lover Arthur Rimbaud. I would translate it thusly:
Il Pleure dans mon coeur, comme il pleut sur la ville--apres Rimbaud.
"It rains in my heart, as it rains on the village" after Rimbaud
But I'm much too literal when I try to translate French, and just plain ignorant of the nuances of the French language. I searched the poem, and came up with this:
The Cry in My Heart
The cry that's in my heart is like
The rain that pours onto the town.
What is this languor sad to strike
And weigh my heavy heart low down?
O rain whose sound that is so sweet
Upon the roofs and on the grounds!
It fills my heart with grief replete.
O rain whose song that so resounds!
For no known reason it cries so
In my sad heart filled with distress.
What, no real treason can I know?
This mournful mood is meaningless.
What can be worse than this deep pain
That kills, and yet I know not why.
No love nor hate, only this bane
That wounds my heart and lets it cry.
Translated by Thomas D. Le
But I freely admit I don't really know what I'm talking about. Je ne suis qu'une ignoramous.
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Disappointed...I was kind of hoping there was something "extra" in that new coffee I tried this morning...
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I know this is a bit off-topic, but it's still about the films of the Coen brothers. I just saw *A Serious Man* last night (rented the dvd), because I suddenly realized it was a Coen brothers film I hadn't as yet seen. I would love to get others' opinion on it. I'm not sure what to make of it, still thinking about it. I will just say, though, that as usual, the acting was perfect, the "production values" ditto, and I was not bored once. Disturbed, yes, but never bored. Has anyone else seen *A Serious Man* ?
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lynn, I swear they were gone when I checked earlier today. I think it was a mistake, and they put them back when I noticed it. Either that, or there was something extra in my morning coffee that I didn't notice (too busy watching Betsy Drake and Dennis Morgan.)
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I always thought that the " TCM Remembers" segment was for those connected with the movie business who have died the year that just ended -ie, in this case, those who died in 2010. Francis died in 2011 -very early in 2011, yes, but I'm thinking they will include her in their "TCM Remember" tribute at the end of this year, December 2011. I suspect they make those tributes early in December, so those whose death occurs after time of making would be included in the next year's tribute.
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Canadians have a love/hate relationship with Americans. Only problem is, it's only the Canadians who are aware of this. We're like one of those little secretaries in an early 50s comedy, we know we're wonderful, now if only we could get the attention of that guy who wields all the power. He likes us well enough when he thinks about us, which is practically never.
Hey, what happened to those posts about *The 49th Parallel* ? They are mysteriously gone -it's like a creepy Twilight Zone episode. There was nothing in the messages to offend anyone, not even Laurence Olivier ( or his estate). Did someone complain to the " mods" to remove them? Tell me it was not a Canadian who did so !
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I always think Gillian Welch is a bit Sundayish, with her roots music and her songs that sound like they're about a hundred years old (this is good). Here she is with David Rawlings, both of them guitaring their heads off with Red Clay Halo:
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Fedya, I''m not sure whether to laugh or cry. Even if you do imagine me as a female version of Laurence Olivier (?? quoi? where would that come from? ) couldn't you have chosen a more flattering picture of the man? Mr. Olivier was quite good-looking, but not in that pic.
(later)..ok, I get it now, I looked up the film *49th Parallel*. Would have been quicker to get your joke if I'd seen it. Sorry. (We Canadians supposedly say "sorry" a lot.)
Edited by: misswonderly on Jan 8, 2011 1:02 PM
Edited by: misswonderly on Jan 8, 2011 1:03 PM
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I love *Holiday*, it's a delightful movie. I even like Katharine Hepburn in it. I agree with the comments about Lew Ayres looking (and seeming) a little like Jack Lemmon, also with the couple, Cary's friends in the story, coming the the rich people's party and being refreshingly unstodgy and unpretentious. It's a sweet film, everything works. And yes, I think it would serve very well as a "Holiday" film. *Holiday* for the holidays ! Maybe next year...
By the way, contributing to the discussion about " holiday romances" and how people behave on them, etc., here's a quirky little song by the Kinks, entitled, of course, Holiday Romance :
(sorry there are no visuals- there's a lot of potential in the lyrics for some very entertaining visuals.)
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I saw *Total Eclipse*; it was just all right. I remember it vaguely depressed me, can't remember exactly why. Maybe because my poetry just doesn't measure up to Arthur Rimbaud's or Paul Verlaine's. Not even Burt Bacharach's.
As far as I know, U2 have never appeared on this thread. Too bloated, too hugely popular for their own good? Too bossy, telling everyone how to be good? Whatever, I'm not a huge fan, but they did make some very good music. One fine record they made with Roy Orbison, Mystery Girl, features the haunting and beautiful ( not to mention yearning) song, She's a Mystery to Me. Bono's songwriting, U2's musicianship, and Roy's singing make this one of the timeless ones. I picked a vid with interesting stills of women's faces, many of them "classic" stars you'll recognize. Sorry about the emphasis on Katharine Hepburn, guess the uploader likes Kate.
Roy Orbison of the soulful voice, giving it his all with She's a Mystery to Me :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECoGoY1Jvus
Edited by: misswonderly on Jan 8, 2011 1:06 PM
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Sounds interesting, although perhaps of a questionable legality, at least with regard to public places.
Personally, I, as a loyal Canadian, always wear fluffy red mules in the house. I combine these with an elegant white dressing gown, thereby proudly sporting the colours of our flag. A patriotic vision in red and white. Here is one of my thousand pairs of indoor footgear:
As you can see, they are also available in other colours. But the red works best with the Canadian flag theme.
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Fred, I'm beginning to suspect that you're just making sure you maintain your reputation on these boards as the resident lovable curmudgeon.
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I, riffing? When do I ever do that?
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Wow, those country guys love sparkles, don't they? That guitarist has a sparkly sparkly silver gee-tar. Those ancient tv clips always make me wish I was a big haired, sparkly suited country singer back then, If they didn't have fun, they sure look like they did.
Cilla Black had a hit with the angst-ridden Anyone Who Had a Heart back in 1964 (after Dionne Warwick had also had a hit with it the year before.) Most people think that Burt Bacharach wrote this ballad about unrequited love, but in point of fact it was penned a century earlier by none other than the French symboliste poet Charles Baudelaire. Cilla may not have been aware of this; in any case, here is a live rendition by her of Anyone Who Had a Heart:
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I shouldn't speak for finance (who knows what he's thinking half the time?) but I suspect he is jokingly referring to Garbo in either *Flesh and the Devil*, or *Grand Hotel*. Does she not say, "Kiss me, fool" in one of those films? We're all aware of your penchant for Garbo - I'm guessing that he was just (good naturedly) teasing you with an allusion to a Greta Garbo film.
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Thank you, Kinokima, for your kind words. I took a lot of time to think about what I like about TCM and how to articulate it on this thread. I agree with everything you've said, too.
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Since this thread seems to be discussing not only *The King's Speech* , but potential Oscar contenders in general, I'm surprised no one has mentioned *Barney's Version*. Now maybe it's because it had a very limited release, late in December, and hardly anyone has seen it yet. In fact, even I haven't seen it yet, because it's not coming to where I live until later in January. But technically it's a 2010 film. It's received good reviews, it stars the always watchable Paul Giametti, and it is based on a Great Canadian novel by Great Canadian Novelist Mordecai Richler ( I don't expect many to have read him, but you should have at least heard of him.)
There has been talk that *Barney's Version* may be up for some nominations.It's just struck me that perhaps there's not as much "buzz" about it as there should be because the director, Richard Lewis, has hitherto focussed mainly on televison shows. Anyway, here is a link about it:
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That's very sweet of your Fred, and I wish it were a Canadian film, but I believe the director, Peter Webber, is British. I'm not sure there's Canadian connection to *The Girl with the Pearl Earring*. (I remember when the book came out; then when the film was released, the new book cover had a still from the film, very typical.)
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RIP Anne Francis (1930-2011)
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You've got a point, Hibi. I was just being silly, as usual.