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misswonderly3

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  1. Thanks for the thoughts on the Rosemary DeCamp character, Dargs. I just want to clarify something: I never said I thought Scott seemed gay (or even gay-ish), neither in Danger Signal nor in any other film I've seen him in. He's just not very attractive to me, personally.
  2. Thanks, Hibi et al. You guys really know your noirs (or maybe just your George Brent movies.) Yes of course, how could I have forgotten The Spiral Staircase ? I've seen it a few times. And --- SPOILER for Spiral Staircase --- Brent's villainy was all the more unexpected because he almost always played the stolid, sturdy, stable, trustworthy decent male character. ...and ok Jezebel too. But in that he's more a "cad" as james says, rather than an outright wicked character. ( Next time I watch either of those films, I'll try and get a really good look at his rear end.)
  3. Temporarily changing the subject... Hibi, I know you're a George Brent fan (sort of....) did you catch that Jacques Tourneur film last night, Experiment Perilous ? Did George Brent ever play a bad guy? (I know he wasn't in any noirs, none that I can think of anyway - unless you count the film I just mentioned...)
  4. Also, the lady shrink's appearance sort of fits what 1940s movie makers seemed to think was what lesbians looked like. And she's probably over 30 and not married? And weren't unmarried female professionals back then almost always suspect lesbians? ( These cliches are of course not what I think, they're what I perceive the stereotypical Hollywood movie makers thought.) Another one who comes to mind, although again, there's nothing overt about it, is Helen Walker's character in Nightmare Alley (interestingly, also a female psychiatrist.) edit: In another post you wrote about the
  5. At the very beginning of the film, Scott sneaks out the window of the room he's apparently been sharing with his first victim (we never do find out how exactly he killed her, to make it look like suicide) while the landlady is knocking loudly on his door. But it's the second or third floor or something, low enough to be able to escape from, but high enough to possibly cause a slight injury if you don't drop from the window just the right way. Scott kind of drops down from the window, but injures his ankle in the process. It shows him limping away from that back alley (the noirest loo
  6. As soon as Danger Signal began I realized I'd seen it before, even though I did not recognize it from the brief plot description on the TCM schedule. I would classify this one as a sub-category of noir, the "woman's drama" (like all those ones with Joan Crawford, along those lines...) I did like it, although of course enjoyed it more the first time I saw it, since I had no idea what was going to happen. As for the ending, I agree it's a bit flat. I like that Faye's character did not really poison Ronnie Mason, because I actually liked Faye and wanted her to end up happily with B
  7. Wow, that's sad. You really think Eddie Muller's commentaries are the best reason to watch Noir Alley? I do like Eddie's "intros" and "outros", but they're definitely not the main attraction for me. The main attraction for me is the movie, whatever it may be.
  8. Framed has definitely been shown on Noir Alley. I just can't remember when, but I know it has been. Maybe a couple of years ago? I remember I liked it.
  9. About the Night Editor / Basic Instinct comparison: I'm just going to say this, and then I'm done with this argument. I still think it's possible, even likely, that Paul Verhoeven at some point saw the film Night Editor and was influenced by it a bit in his making of Basic Instinct. Of course it's not a step-by-step remake. But there are enough similarities that it's certainly reasonable to speculate he saw the earlier film and remembered it and maybe incorporated certain aspects of it into his own film. True, there are certain recurring tropes, stereotypes, repeating th
  10. Of course it was what I was going for. Why else would I have mentioned the White Album? Why are you explaining to me that "Martha My Dear" is a song on the White Album? Sorry, I don't want to sound testy, but my post was so obviously a reference to that song and the poster's name, I can't imagine why you thought you needed to tell me that.
  11. So , you're in the "that scene Eddie was talking about is the one where Jill wants to see the murdered girl's dead body" camp, Dargs? Guess that's the majority opinion here. I guess I'm just remembering how Eddie joked, in his "afterward" commentary, that it would have been awkward taking your 10 year old to see "Night Editor", how would you explain "the scene" to the kid? My guess is, a kid wouldn't question all that much a woman wanting to see a freshly murdered body, but he or she might ask their parent why the lady asked the hero to kiss her and then stabbed him in the back wh
  12. Rich, don't ever leave. You're good for my health.
  13. Well, actually laffite, I'd thought it could be a kind of game here, where all us noir afficionados here could name a film noir with a puzzling title (not really related to the story) and then we'd all try and come up with a better, more suitable title. However, clearly I'm the only one who's thought of this, and the idea's a flop. I wasn't really thinking of researching the origins of the film title (good idea, though.) not being self-pitying. It might not be that great an idea after all. Just out of curiosity, I looked up a list of classic noir film titles, and not all
  14. Ok, laffite, thanks. But what I'm really interested in, and the reason why I quoted myself, was I wanted to generate or at least see if there was interest in my idea about how often film noir titles don't really match the film, sometimes the titles are quite random, as though nobody could think of anything that fit the story. Now, sometimes the title really works, as in "Out of the Past" or "Double Indemnity", to give two really obvious examples. But often - and as is the case with "Night Editor" (although yes, we did discuss why it might have been called that) - the title of the mo
  15. Well, this is the kind of thing we could argue til the cows come home (where are those cows off to , anyway?) and of course not arrive at a consensus, since it's all subjective. I will just say, I wasn't really talking so much about Janis Carter's physical beauty and comparing it to legendary beauties like Rita Hayworth or Ava Gardner (and yes, you're right, I don't think Ava's "all that" either, but I know everyone else thinks she is...) No, I was thinking more about that indefinable something that some film actors have, "screen presence" or "magnetism" or whatever you wan
  16. I know, I know, it's really tacky to quote your own posts. I apologize. But honestly, I was a bit surprised that no one here picked up on that idea about how many noirs have titles that don't say anything as to what they're actually about. don't you guys agree about that? And wouldn't it be kind of a fun idea for us to "re-name" some of these films that have almost no connection between title and story? oh well...
  17. Me (MIssW) "Ok, I'll bite....there's been some discussion here as to which scene, exactly, Eddie was referring to. If you're sure which one it was ( there's been at least 3 suggested so far), please tell us." Janet0312 "the part where Jill is desperate to see the dead body, desperate to the point of climax." (sorry, I couldn't seem to get the multiple quote function to work.) ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ You know, I
  18. I don't understand. I just clicked on this thread, and the original post is just "oao" ?? Yet people quote the poster as though once the first post said something else. It's as though everyone else here has been able to read something I don't see. What's going on and how come I'm the only one who's confused? (Well, maybe laffite too.) and what does "oao" stand for? edit I just went back and skimmed over the whole thread and I can't for the life of me figure out where everyone is seeing all these things the original poster said in their original post? I feel like I'm in Gasli
  19. But a lot of more recent directors were familiar with older movies. (Look at Martin Scorsese, for one.) And Paul Verhoeven strikes me as the kind of director who would have sought out old noir movies- he made a lot of "neo-noirs" himself.
  20. Sometimes, with these noirs that have titles that don't always connect much with the movie, I try to think of other more appropriate titles for them. But it's hard ! Maybe, for Night Editor, we could have something like "No Way Back", since despite Tony's efforts to extricate himself from the situation he's in, he just seems to get deeper and deeper into trouble? Or how about "Dilemma"? Tony Cochrane, through his own past behaviour, finds himself unable to act because by revealing the truth, he risks his own reputation and private life (his marriage, etc.) Yet his job, his
  21. Ok, as usual, I'm going to be perverse ( perverse, dammit, not perverted !) and say that I don't get this thing a lot of you guys here have for Janis Carter. Yeah, sure, if I saw her in real life, I'd think she was a good-looking woman. But maybe because we see so many exceptionally good-looking women in Hollywood movies, she doesn't stand out to me. Her looks seem kind of ordinary, actually. She doesn't seem any sexier than a multitude of noir ladies I've seen in these kinds of films. Her acting is good, no problem with that. But I just don't get all you guys drooling over her.
  22. That's right, laffite, of course there's an ice pick murder in Scarlet Street. I thought of mentioning it before, but it doesn't have much in common with the other two films with ice pick stabbings being discussed here, so I didn't (til now.)
  23. Didn't Eddie explain it as a "framing" set-up, with the newspaper guys who work in the middle of the night hanging around playing poker and swapping stories? And since it was originally conceived as a series (like "The Whistler" or something along those lines), they could have had a different story every time, with the framing set-up of the night editor guys listening to some woeful tale whilst playing poker. Also, as james said, they got the idea from the radio show of the same name. But I think even the radio show was referring to the idea of a bunch of graveyard shift newspaper w
  24. Ok, I'll bite....there's been some discussion here as to which scene, exactly, Eddie was referring to. If you're sure which one it was ( there's been at least 3 suggested so far), please tell us. ps: I like Eddie's little tiki bar set-up. Of course he doesn't imbibe all that alcohol himself, he has shapely dangerous ladies to help him with that.
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