misswonderly3
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musicalnovelty, that was very thoughtful of you. Thank you !
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> {quote:title=mrroberts wrote:}{quote}
> I like Joel McCrea in all of those beach movies. Surfs Up!
Uh..like *The Palm BEACH Story* ?
cujas, I don't think Joel looks "sloppy"; he always looks pretty good to me. Besides, I like a slightly unkempt look in men sometimes (well, perhaps a little messy -as long as they look clean, none of this Mickey Rourke greasy hair looks like he needs a shower in practically every movie he's in business ).
Hey, maybe there is a connection between Ben Mankiewicz and Joel McCrea after all. Ben has been accused of looking somewhat less than perfectly groomed from time to time. Mind you, I was never in the "Ben's a mess" camp. I like that "casual" look, it's a bit "edgey". No goatee now -well, Joel never sported a beard ,(did he? ) so I guess it's ok. How much nonsense can I blather on one post?
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She is mesmerizing, and *Laura* is a great early noir. However, I wouldn't say the character of "Laura" is one of a "bad girl" ; certainly not a "femme fatale" , at least by the usual definition of the term. She certainly lied a lot , but so did just about all the characters in that film. Not even the cop is blameless.
The Laura character is somewhat enigmatic, definitely exceptionally beautiful, and often deceptive, sometimes apparently just for the sake of being so. But I don't think of her as the "bad girl" , there is no such character in *Laura*. (Judith Anderson? I think not. Not that she isn't a lot of fun to watch in this movie.)
Edited by: misswonderly on Dec 28, 2010 6:36 PM
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Well, I don't know much about Miss Bavier, including how to pronounce her name.(That always helps if you're making a rhyme, even the thowaway rhymes I've been doing here.) I assume it's "Bav -ee-ay", since it has a French spelling. cujas? Any help on the French pronounciation?
Here goes...
Frances Bavier !
Frances Bavier !
Star of the Month
Or at least for
Halve - a day !
(Hm, needs work...)
I see she played an extra in *The Bad Seed.*
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Back to the "heat" theme, with Springsteen's song covered by the babe-ish Pointer Sisters. Not sure what the bubbles are all about, possibly a misguided attempt to put out any stray flames that may have been burning ?
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*Half a Sinner*, 1934 - Thanks, Prince S., for letting me know about that. I'd never heard of it, looked it up, looks good. AND it's got Joel McCrea in it. I noticed there's another *Half a Sinner*, this one from 1940. Doesn't appear to be a remake, or at all similar to the 1934 film by the same name. But it, too, sounds interesting, kind of noirish. I suggest TCM gets the rights to screen both of them the same evening, then they'll have a whole sinner.
Half a Sinner !
Half a Sinner !
Obscure 30s film
Must be a winner !
ps -I've often wondered what would be the best kind of panties to wear, with respect to getting them in or out of knots.
Edited by: misswonderly on Dec 28, 2010 12:09 PM
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> {quote:title=PrinceSaliano wrote:}{quote}
> Hopefully, no more.
Why not? It's just a bit of silly fun. I'm not "spamming" all the threads with them, or anything like that. Surely there are more irritating things going on here on these boards then a harmless running gag with Joel McCrea doggerels. Sometimes I'm just trying to lighten things up around here a little. And if you don't like them, you can tell me directly, answering my post instead of someone else's comment about them.
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I still say the boys should play Twister while doing their commentaries. Never mind chess.
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JOEL McCREA !
JOEL McCREA !
I say this in earnest
Not in play.
(ok, not one of my better ones. Too much Christmas brandy...)
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JOEL McCREA !
JOEL McCREA !
Greta's already
Had her day.
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> {quote:title=kriegerg69 wrote:}{quote}
> You're kidding, right? SAP audio has been around since the 1980's.....for at least 25 years.
Well, I never pay attention to things like that. If I had no need for it, I wouldn't have known about it I guess. You might as well know, while we're at it, that I also have no concept of "aspect ratio", high def, and all that other technical stuff so many of you talk about here. As long as I can see and hear the movie clearly, and it's a good print, that's all I care about. I suppose, too, I prefer widescreen to the other option (pan and scan? ), but mainly because it appears to be the CC ("Cinematically Correct") thing to do.
Same with music; I pay a lot of attention to music, it's as important a part of my life as movies are. But I couldn't care less about "remixing" and speaker capacity and all that. I just want it to sound good. If the recording is really muddy, I do notice it, but I spend as little time thinking about the technical aspect of music/sound reproduction as I do thinking about the technical aspects of film reproduction.
Sorry, I know this is a sacred subject for many people here.
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infinte1, I am cut to the quick. How can you diss your neighbours to the north like that? Jack Warner was born in Canada, you know.
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They could distract those in pursuit of Willie with little chocolate whales, the perfect stocking stuffer.
Maybe someone could bring Ahab in on this to help - no, he'd want them all to be white chocolate...
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I love it ! Now this could be something entirely different from your original suggestion, I don't see it as fitting in with the "commentary" idea. But it too sounds like it has great potential, and could be a lot of fun.
By the way, did you know that the game "Trivial Pursuits" was developed by ... a Canadian? !
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That Star of the Month list is pretty impressive, but I didn't see any mention of ...
JOEL McCREA !
JOEL McCREA !
Not yet Star of the Month?
Oi vey !
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"Jan.2005: Canadian Actors" All right ! Wish I'd had TCM on cable back then. But I didn't , because I lived in Canada. Go figure.
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> {quote:title=sweetsmellofsuccess wrote:}{quote}
> I'm still hoping that Mary Astor will be Star of the Month soon!!
Me too...I feel oddly connected to her for some reason, signed, Misswonderly
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Chess and/or checkers would be all very well, but they are games for two people, and Alex might feel a little excluded. Also, as Valentine points out, there might be copyright concerns from the Ingmar Bergman estate.
I have a better idea: Osborne, Mankiewicz, and Baldwin could set up a Twister mat, and issue their comments while playing that game. Think of the challenges involved in elucidating the audience regarding the camera angles in *Citizen Kane* from a pretty skewed angle themselves. Auteur theory from an upside down Alec Baldwin. Of course they'd have to maintain their pretzel shapes throughout the entire running time of the film. I think this would get everyone on their toes.
A little film commentary, a little Twister. Something for everyone.
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Hey, I didn't know that version. The only "Holly Jolly Christmas" I've ever heard Burl Ives sing is the one from "Rudolph ". It's slightly different.
Poor old Phil Spector, totally cracked up. Who knew he was going to become such a nutter , 40-odd years on, when he released his Christmas album in 1963? (Bad timing, that.)
I can't always handle the entire album all at once, but each song individually has its charm. My favourite is The Ronettes' "Sleigh Ride", which I think in its own Christmassy Phil Spectorish way really rocks:
Edited by: misswonderly on Dec 22, 2010 11:11 AM
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"Locomotive Breath" is a most intriguing name for a song- you have to credit !*&% Tull for imaginative song titles.
You seem to be on a "heat" roll; First Anne Miller with "It's Too Darn Hot" and now little Stevie with a tune from an album called "Hotter Than July". Well, who doesn't long for things to be hot when it's cold?
Nice reggae feel to that track.
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Hi infinite1;
I feel if anything I'm the one who might be accused of being inappropriately egotisical, since I picked up your thread idea and ran with it.
I'm not sure what you mean by the "hot" board. You mean "Hot Topics" ? Nah, better not, it would just get flagged as a duplicate thread. Besides, as far as I can tell, it's this "General Discussions" forum that gets the most attention.
No, all we need to do is keep this on page 1, to make sure a lot of people see it. Come on, folks, most of you like the TCM hosts, and I know a lot of you enjoy commentary to accompany a film you've already seen. It enriches and enlightens (like a nutritious breakfast cereal, delicious and nutritious.)
Hey people, I know there are a lot of you out there who would also like this idea. Que pensez vous?
Edited by: misswonderly on Dec 21, 2010 8:30 PM
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Sorry, I think our typing out our posts on this overlapped in time - anyway, please see what I wrote just before your answer to my earlier comment. (Thank you for explaining the SAP option.)
lzcutter wrote:
"...I know it's almost heretical to say, but there are folks who prefer to watch with no commentary."
I agree : Of course it's not heretical to say, who wants to watch a movie for the first time with commentary? Not me. I like the commentary when I've already seen the film, especially if it's one I love and have seen many times. Naturally they would be letting viewers know in advance that this was what was going to happen with the film in question, for that particular time of airing.
I think it's a fascinating idea. We'd get the benefit of a lot more comment and information, also some room for spontaneity, funny stories, etc., from our TCM hosts (whom, as you know, I like and respect.)
Edited by: misswonderly on Dec 21, 2010 1:09 PM
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What's the SAP channel?
Anyway, I don't know if you've read the original post. This would be something different, the point would be lost a bit if you had a " regular" screening and a "with commentary" screening option at the same time.
This was proposed as a once a week or once a month event, not a regular everyday way to air movies on TCM. Of course most films would be shown the usual way. 99% of the films would continue to be shown " uninterrupted." But infinite1's idea that Robert Osborne, Ben Mankiewicz, and maybe Alex Baldwin too could be sitting at a screening of a film and "pause " the film to offer comments and information while they were watching it has great potential. Naturally there would have to be time limits on the "comment" time, as the OP pointed out.
This is not suggested as a replacement for regular film viewing on TCM, I got the idea from the original post that it was a programming idea that could be offered as something different , as well as, not instead of, the usual way to watch a movie on the station. So there would be no problem for those who want to watch the movie without it - maybe they could do something like have an earlier screening of the same film, (earlier in that day, or earlier in the week) , just showing it straightforward. Then, those who saw it and wanted the commentary program, could make sure they caught the Osborne/Mankniewicz/Baldwin screening at its scheduled time.
Edited by: misswonderly on Dec 21, 2010 1:00 PM
Fav Noir Bad Girls?
in Film Noir--Gangster
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No, to me a femme fatale is a female character in noir who consciously uses men - or one particular man - to get what she wants. (Usually money - what she wants is "the Muguffin" , it doesn't really matter in itself. ) The men/man are of no importance to her, regardless of how much she swears they mean everything to her. She cynically and deliberately deceives and uses them for her own ends, and has little to no emotional attachment to them.
Laura is not like that. She doesn't want to "use" Waldo Lydecker for anything except a pen endorsement. It is Waldo who becomes obsessed with her, but she does not take advantage of this obsession. Also - and this is an important point - with most femme fatales the man is in sexual thrall to the woman (Jeff to Kathie in *Out of the Past*, Walter to Phyllis in *Double Indemnity*, etc.). Waldo, as we all know, is not interested in Laura sexually ( some have suggested he might be more interested in Dana Andrews, but there's no evidence of that. ) I think he is asexual, and his preoccupation with Laura is as Pygmalian's to his Galatea (you know, the Greek myth about the sculptor who became obsessed with his own work of art, the statue he created.)
Waldo decides to develop Laura's potential as a culturally sophisticated being, he reads to her, encourages her to listen to classical music, etc. But it is never indicated that he has any physical interest in her. Laura, on her part, is agreeable to spending her time with Waldo, but there is nothing in the film to indicate that she is scheming to use his wealth or reputation to her own advantage. Laura is fairly passive in the whole matter (except for her initial solicitation to endorse the pen), and has little interest in Waldo except a rather cranky intellectual avuncular figure to whom she is grateful( for his assistance in developing her career.)
Anyway, what I'm trying to say here is that Laura does not bring about Waldo's downfall, Waldo brings it about himself by his own obsession with Laura, his "Galatea". To me, a femme fatale is not a character who unknowingly or unintentionally destroys the male protagonist, but who on purpose uses him for her own gain, the consequences to the man be damned. Laura is too passive a character to do any of this.
Edited by: misswonderly on Dec 29, 2010 2:14 PM
Edited by: misswonderly on Dec 29, 2010 2:15 PM