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Everything posted by misswonderly3

  1. What about *Father Goose*? It's pretty much only Cary Grant and Lesley Caron. And all those kids. Oh, I guess it doesn't count. There's also those navy officials at the beginning. Maybe the reason why I haven't watched *Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison* is because, it's so available, I figure there's not rush. Aargh, that sounds pretty lame, doesn't it. Well, dammit, I'm going to check it out within the week. My local movie rental place has it. Plus, I like Deborah Kerr. ps -finance, the Black Hawks have the Flyers on the run. I hope there's no rioting . Edited by: misswonderly on Jun 7,
  2. Today seems to be a confessional day for me, in terms of declaring movies I feel I should have seen and haven't. (couple of Robert Mitchum titles on another thread) Never seen *House of Bamboo*! It's even on one of those Noir boxed sets, totally accessible. I 'd better get to it. I've certainly heard a lot about it.
  3. *Beyond a Reasonable Doubt* - is that the Fritz Lang film with Dana Andrews? I love that! And talk about exploring the dark side of human nature... Another really bizarre "old-school" film noir I really like is *Decoy*. You never hear much about this one, but it's got one of the strangest plot devices I've ever heard of. Anyone seen it? Does TCM ever screen it? As to newer noirs, I agree *Memento* is right up there. Another dark world view. Only problem is, I can't remember if I've seen it or not. Uh-what movie was I talking about? What is this, anyway...???
  4. Believe it or not, I've never seen either *Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison* or *G.I.Joe*. I know, I know, and I call myself a Robert Mitchum fan. I don't know how this has happened, I've no excuse. Both these movies are shown fairly often on TCM and are available on dvd. I've just never gotten around to them yet. Hey, this way I have something in the Mitchum universe to look forward to.
  5. I've got to be honest here; I must confess that I haven't actually read either of those E.M. Forster novels. I was just listing another film that came to mind when E.M. Forster was mentioned. From what you say, it does sound as though the internal aspect of the novel, the character's thoughts, were not sufficiently portrayed in the film Room with a View. That's always a problem with translating fiction to film, isn't it, especially if the fiction has a lot of interior action, psychological depth etc. How does a filmmaker take that aspect of the novel and synthesize it into cinema? Some do it
  6. traceyk65, thanks for your response. I'm not sure if you were agreeing about The Letter or Rebecca. Both were fine works of literature, and both were great films. So, either one, I guess. Someone mentioned E.M. Forster's Howard's End. There's also Room with a View, based on another E.M. Forster novel. ValentineX, I saw Adaptation and I'm still trying to decide to this day whether I liked it or not. Although, as you pointed out, with a title like that, it ought to be good. Charlie Kaufman's films are problematic for me.
  7. Arkadin, I think everything you've said on this thread is not only extremely interesting and informative; more than that, you've given me some ideas to consider that I hadn't thought of before, which is one of the reasons we use these boards in the first place. I shouldn't presume to speak for finance, but I'd say that we're both pretty tough and neither of us is offended. Certainly not me. Please keep posting your ideas about film noir and movies in general. As I said, I think communicating this way, fun though it is, can create misunderstandings sometimes, simply because the written wor
  8. Now, now, everybody, we're all having fun with this, let's keep it that way. Arkadin, I wasn't really offended with anything you said, and I know that you're aware that "dyed in the wool" film noir lovers do recognize the broader parametres of the genre. In fact, I did agree with you about the main element of noir as a concept, its "dark" world view. Sometimes I think the limitations of writing about these ideas instead of hanging around together discussing them in person can lead to misunderstandings. No facial expression, no vocal tone to ascertain if someone's being light-hearted or sa
  9. *Blood Simple* is a great suggestion. I 'm surprised nobody thought of it before, especially as we were talking about the Coen brothers. That was their first noir homage, and a very good one. FredCDobbs also suggested *Jackie Brown*, made some really good points how it belongs on a post noir list. Samuel Jackson's a perfect noir villain. I agree that *M* is a great suggestion for a "pre-noir", and probably a lot of other German expressionist filmmakers have made some too. Especially the way they do black and white cinematography, the shadows, and the mood of alienation, hopelessness,
  10. I always think it's nice to hear about people's memories of family trips travelling around the country. I really think these are times you never forget. redriver, I am looking forward to this trip,I've always wanted to see Mississippi, Tennessee, and Kentucky. I have heard they are beautiful states. And all the history! Plus, there have been lots of great movies filmed on location in all those states. (Although I'd have to look them up to name some.I just know there have been.)
  11. *Yates*, Peter -directed The Friends of Eddie Coyle (nobody's expected to do *X* s, right?)
  12. Jack Nicholson was in Five Easy Pieces with Karen Black
  13. What about *Dead End* ? 1937, directed by William Wyler. Some would classify it as a gangster movie, but there aren't really many gangster elements in it (except that Bogart is one) More to the point, it bears a few of the hallmarks of noir -the protagonist is alienated from society, psychologically messed up, and it has an unhappy ending (in the sense that he gets killed rather than rescued and reformed.) He can't find redemption -his childhood sweetheart is a tart (in his eyes) and his mother rejects him. Most 30s gangster films don't go into all that stuff. I know it's based on a play
  14. Claire Bloom was in Crimes and Misdemeanors with Angelica Huston (although never at the same time, fortunately for the main character)
  15. *Vidor*, King , directed H. M. Pulham, Esq., amongst many others (let me guess -he's been used almost every time the "V's " come up)
  16. Distant Drummer, a Movable Scene - I'll put it on my calendar. Thanks. LilAbner, I like His Kind of Woman too. I enjoy it more when I watch it as a comedy, which it certainly is. The languid sparring between Mitch and Jane Russell (were they paired together in more than one movie because they're both really tall?) and every scene Vincent Price is in, make this a really funny movie. I know technically it's supposed to be a film noir, but it plays like a comedy to me.
  17. I guess by " ultimate post-noir noirs" I just meant a film that can more or less fall into the parametres of what we call "noir", but was made, yes, after 1960. (that's the "post" part), I'm a little worried now that it came off a bit pretentious sounding, something I loathe. As to Blade Runner, it does have some noir elements -the idea of a cop, even a futuristic one, chasing someone or something down, the evil authority figures, and general sense of malaise. But -and I know we all agree the definition, such as it is, is very broad, -isn't Blade Runner just a bit too sci fi to be regarde
  18. L.A. Confidential gets my vote for one of the ultimate post-noir noirs. But I agree with most of the ones on your list -that I've seen. Especially Reservoir Dogs and Memento . And The Bad Lieutenant (not to be confused with the newish Werner Herzog film.) The Coen brothers are often noirish, and a few years back did a self-conscious recreation of a noir film, even filming it in black and white, The Man Who Wasn't There. It was an interesting exercise in noir pastiche, but I agree with the one that's on your list, I think it is more truly noir in many ways ( and certainly less self-
  19. also, They Live by Night is mostly set in the country, little towns, and of course that cabin in the middle of nowhere where the couple hides out for a while.
  20. Hi, C.Bogle - I'm a big Elvis Costello fan. I thought, since you just posted one of his songs, I'd post a song by one of his pals -Dave Edmonds. A very under-rated rocker. This tune also ties in with our overall TCM classic movie theme. I thought it was kind of fun. (ps -thanks for all the great songs.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_4iZIguRBs
  21. I always thought people's ages were adjustable, like cell phone settings or something. So -back to Mitch. Any fans out there who'd like to list one of their favourite R.M. films besides Out of the Past and Night of the Hunter ? I like (amongst others) Pursued , Crossfire, and The Racket ( Crossfire and The Racket have the bonus appeal of my other favourite Robert, Mr. Ryan, in them.) Edited by: misswonderly on Jun 4, 2010 10:23 PM I can never get those danged italic and bold settings right.
  22. I know. I found out after I already posted. I'm really embarrassed about my ignorance of American geography ( and, I guess history!). Tennessee. Well, hopefully I'll know more about both after this trip.
  23. Hey, we're going to Kentucky too! First Savannah, then Vicksburg, then on to Kentucky to check out the Shilo Civil WAr battle field, then on to the Mammoth Caves. I'm planning to watch The Damned Don't Cry, just for fun.
  24. Was Jim Dougherty a baseball player? (if so, that's two M.M. was married to)
  25. Didn't Thelma Ritter win or at least get nominated for best supporting Actress for her work in Pick Up on South Street ? She was unforgettable in that,perfect in the role of the good-hearted rag lady, who sidelines as a dealer in information for anyone who will pay. That last scene she's in is so moving, refusing to yield to "the commies" while that wistful song "Mamselle" plays on a scratchy gramophone in the background.
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