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DownGoesFrazier

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  1. Boy, this thread has depreciated mightily the last few pages (I've just gone through the whole thread), although I hasten to say that peanut butter and bananas are excellent bedfellows. Unless you think that three is a crowd, my college cafeteria added honey that I thought quite good. It's fascinating (changing the subject) to see what viewers dislike that everyone else (so to speak) does. The Seinfeld and the .... were interesting and were fine in their own right but they were a let down after what preceded it.

     

    Getting back to unpopular opinions, I don't like the Coen Bros, they don't thrill me at all. I used to like Fargo but a second viewing (recently) left me cold. Frances ruined it for me with her penchant for looking at her questionee and say, "Well, it's time to go down to the station, whatcha think?" with that perversely goofy gotcha smile. I wish Moe was there, he could have given her what she deserved, a couple of thumbs to the eyeballs. If that were to have occurred I would probably think Fargo the best ever. It would have to beat out The Man Who Wasn't There, the only Coen I really like with a possible exception of Blood Simple where btw FraMac was good.

     

    Oliver (to change the subject) admitted that he often felt not quite right on screen. He needed a costume to inspire his character and being in a movie with mere suit and tie flummoxed him a bit. He got away with it in The Entertainer since he did so well (the singing persona probably helped. But I don't find fault with him, generally, especially his earlier stuff. I thought he was fine. If, however, a true phoned-in role is of interest, see the one where he co-starred with Art Carney, he was a guy who just didn't want o be there. You can see him turn on the autopilot when it was time for a line. He was older but age in principle did not deter his skills (see King Lear, 1976)

     

    I agree with Liz supporters, she may have not been great but she certainly wasn't bad IMO. She was cute a button in Life With Father (1948)

     

    I disagree with whoever said that Nelson Eddy and Jeannette MacDonald could easily have a career in opera. Jeannette actually auditioned with the Met and was turned down although there is no shame in that. I feel that if Jeanette had set upon a career in opera when she was younger she might have had a good chance. But it wouldn't have been easy. In her defense, no opera career is easy, especially if you want to sing the big houses. But Nelson Eddy, though a good singer, did not have IMO the right kind of voice for opera. It's sounds to bland IMO, although he sounds fine in operetta. It's hard to think (for me) that he could really sell the top baritone arias. The color of his voice is not compatible with opera IMO.

    Nobody eats more bananas than I do (except maybe some ravenous monkeys), but my peanut butter days are way behind me. So ne'er the twain shall meet.

  2. Alice Faye and and Tony Martin

    Tony Martin is not the right husband. The correct husband had another wife who was on Hollywood's AAA list. The wife who is the correct answer was less famous. She had a well-known sibling.

  3. Except that in the case of Phyllis, we're talking a wig that most drag queens wouldn't be caught dead in.

    :o

     

    I have no idea how she was so successful seducing men. But then, I guess we don't make it all that hard, do we...?

    Seducing "men"? No, seducing "man". Her track record is unknown, unless you count the Byron Barr character..

  4. Try saying that again when you're lying on a gurney in the emergency room.

     

    But on the positive side, having just had your one hundredth artery clogging Elvis burger you might be able to say, "Hey Elvis, I'll be seeing ya soon."

    Philly has always been known for its cheesesteaks. You wanna talk clogged arteries, the talk stops right here.

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  5. All that Polanski talk in the General Discussion section had him in the forefront of my mind.

     

    Next: He was a film and television actor whose career spanned from the late 1930's to the early 1980's. He appeared in many A and B pictures, but his most well-remembered roles were as part of an ensemble in a Best Picture winner of the 1950's, as well as a co-starring role in a major A-picture science fiction movie. He spent the latter part of his career in a patriarchal role on a TV soap.

     

    She was the daughter of a major Hollywood director. She adopted a stage name to differentiate herself from her father. She never achieved stardom, but she co-starred in movies with Yul Brynner, Barbara Stanwyck, Joan Crawford, and Paul Lukas. 

    Hugh Marlowe and K.T. Stevens?

  6. If they don't talk like that, they should. Everything would be so much more fun! And even though I wouldn't want to be called "Baby," it's funny in the noir films. Like in "Double Indemnity," how many times does Fred MacMurray call Barbara Stanwyck "baby" ?

    Ralph Kramden always said to Alice. "Baby, you're the greatest". I guess their Chauncey Street environs were vaguely noirish.

  7. Alan also created Bozo the Clown-- and in addition he was a clown when he thought that he couldn't eake out another Studio recording from the unreliable Judy Garland.

     

    So he forced her to do a live album to get Capitol's money off her contract. That turned out rather well much to his surprise -- Judy at Carnegie Hall!

     

    If you want to see this guy eat some Crow take a look at a photo of Judy holding her gold records for Carnegie Hall and the look on the face of the guy standing next to her. LOL

     

    BTW--Fra, thanks for the shout-out for Nick Venet. I can still see him underneath that desk hiding from Murry Wilson.LMREO

     

    Fra, Well Done! Your turn--

    He---acclaimed film director

     

    She---young film actress who died young

  8. Nick was working for someone else-- had to get that person's okay first--the head of the company. Plus that person, did indeed, personally sign my 2nd favorite group after a phone call from an ambitious personal manager.

    Alan Livingston and Betty Hutton

  9. But I love the wise -guy patter. It's one of the reasons why it's fun to watch film noir. 

     

    Notice it's almost always given in "voice-over" / first-person narrative form. To me, it's as much a part of film noir as the shadowy old warehouses and docks, the flashing neon signs over the seedy hotel rooms, and the rain-swept streets.

     

    Let's not forget that what is regarded as cliche now was not so in the late 1940s-50s.  And sometimes, it's those very cliches that I enjoy.

    Sometimes for fun I'll try and start up some kind of noir patter myself, usually trying it out on my hapless husband who politely agrees, "yes, you sound very hard-boiled."  I might do this if there's a certain kind of music playing.

     

    Something like, "...It was one of those nights when you just can't sleep, and 3 more fingers of straight whisky isn't going to help. So I got up and hit the streets,hoping maybe to find something, I don't even know what. I needed a cigarette bad. As I lit one, I noticed someone following me, someone who backed into an alley everytime I turned around. Funny thing was, the someone kind of looked like a dame. Even my whisky -soaked brain knew something crooked was going on..."

     

    Ok, that's not that good. Maybe I need some sleazy saxophone music to help out. But you get what I mean - the noir voice-over dialogue is fun. Do people - did people, ever really talk like that? Baby, I don't care.

    Whether you care or not----To talk like that, for starters, you have to live in a black and white world. People who were severely color-blind tended to talk like that.

  10. Changing norms and local interests shift and these kinds of places fade away.  Sometimes however, it can be humorous.  For instance....

     

    That WEEKER'S bakery I mentioned was owned and operated for years by a woman who, despite being an excellent baker, was a rampant racial bigot.  So it kind of tickles me now when I see that about 15 years ago, the space is now a shop that specializes in African hair weaving.  :D

     

    Or, like my ex's cousin's HEALTH FOOD store, which only lasted a few years before folding, is now occupied by a TOBACCO STORE!  :D

     

     

    Sepiatone

    Tobacco is a hotter commodity than health food? Only in Detroit.

  11. you've got DVR, yes?

    i used to gripe about them scheduling stuff at bad times, but then i figured mine out and it's pretty cool.

    it's basically a VCR in your TV that never spits the tape out.

    Don't have one. Too complicated for me.

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  12. Great time. I'll be sleeping the sleep of the innocent at 10 a.m.

    Sunday and I'll be missing that repetitive bore at the same time.

    Sweet. :)

    At 10 AM, I'm right in the middle of a spinning class, and I don't get home until after 2.  Why can't they run this stuff later Sunday afternoon?

  13. Goddard certainly fits the criteria, but the Great ballerina certainly does not.

     

    Hint: This Record executive signed my favorite rock and roll group.

    Nick Venet signed the Beach Boys for Capitol, but he was not the head of the label.

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