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Shame on you, Holly. Poor old Dennis Price always seems to get overlooked. Despite
Guinness's fine turn in those eight roles, Price's character is really at the heart of
the plot, and probably has as much, if not more, screen time than Sir Alec. He does
a fine job of portraying Louis as a polite, gentlemanly, man about town, who has
learned to hide his humble origins, but is also a striver with a meticulous plan to
work his way to the inheritance via murder. His problem was, with his habit of close
record keeping, he wrote down one thing too many. Hope this shows up on TCM soon,
it really is quite a unique movie.
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Sebastian probably did exist in real time and space, but his tale is told by others, so
there's something a little ghostly about him, except for his obvious desires. I guess
one could view his death on at least two levels-the symbolic, where he plays all those
games with Death before the inevitable loss, and the concrete, where certain of his
actions lead to his death. One could see either way, or both. The problem I have with
all of Violet's musings on the eternal flow of life and death, nature's winners and losers,
is that there is a distinction to be made: The beasts of nature don't act with malice afore-
thought. The birds eat the turtles merely to survive. With humans, it's different. Sebastian
does act with malice in his exploitation of the poor natives, and his survival really doesn't
depend on them. So humans can opt out of the bloody necessities of nature, and that makes
her view of life much too limiting and without nuance.
I think Bronxgirl was the first to point out the parallel to Moby Dick, especially in
reference to the color white, that vast whiteness and what it might mean. There are
some similarities, but Moby Dick is also a separate work, with its own vast interpretive
history, and it can stand on its own. Haven't read it in many years, but it's worth the effort.
Though we only see Sebastian fleetingly, I've always imagined Laurence Harvey in that
white suit. He seems perfect for the part of the egocentric manipulator with high style.
Olivia appeared in a similar device (maybe it was the same one) in one of her later films.
Throw in Joan Fontaine and you'd have a three-star circus.
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It's been a while since I've seen it too, Holly. It seemed to show up fairly regularly
on TCM, maybe because of the prominence of the three stars. It will be interesting
to see how the details jive with a general overview of the film. I've never read the original
one-act play, but apparently there were a lot of things added for the movie version.
Instructive to read the play and compare it with the movie.
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Very perceptive piece on what is truly one of the grandest of all black comedies. Yes,
Guinness is marvelous in his multiple roles, but Dennis Price is sometimes overlooked
due to this. Price did an excellent job as the discarded heir trying to kill his way up
the chain. Though the screenplay is marvelously witty, the concept is rather broad,
so the whole picture is hard to take too seriously, and Price strikes just the right
tone so that it's hard not to be, to some extent, sympathetic to his character, however
wrong his actions. A true comedy classic.
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Despite the title Suddenly, Last Summer is about anything other than suddenness.
It is an ancient tale, starting eons ago, about life, the struggle for existence, and
despite every effort in that struggle, inevitable death. What happened that summer
is what has been happening every summer (and every other season) since time
immemorial. The only things changing are the transient characters who move through
this endless story. They will be replaced by others as surely as the tides change.
White is the significant color in the movie. Catherine is refreshed by finally be allowed
to smoke a cigarette, a white cigarette, though the inside of the cigarette is anything
but white. And while she draws on her cig, the white outer color is slowly burned away,
as if with each puff, each precious inhalation she takes, a little more of the white is
burned away, just as her life is slowly burning away with every breath she takes. And
inside, unexposed to her superficial view, the corruption of darkness is hidden, un-
noticed, but still there, just as it is in her own life. White is also the color of ghosts and
bleached bones, just as Sebastian is dressed in white, never directly seen, except in
the narrative of others. He is a ghost, a ghost who, though dead but really alive, will
be rendered by the children he manipulated into true death, and will eventually, like
all that lives, be reduced to his inner non-being, a skeleton, bleached white by the
sun.
There definitely seems to be a connection, intentional or not, to Moby Dick. Besides
the obvious iconography of the great white whale and the hunt for it through all time, there
is, in an important even if secondary role, the figure of the cannibal, Queequeg. He earns
his 'daily bread', though he is a flesh eater, by his harpoon, which he uses to penetrate
the flesh of an animal that is innocent, and never meant him or his shipmates any harm.
In the same manner, Sebastian, whose namesake saint was penetrated by arrows, uses
his 'harpoon' to also penetrate the flesh of the innocent, those who never meant him any
harm. And like the great white whale, the innocent rise up against those who meant them harm.
And, as a further possible nod to the novel, they turn into cannibals, just as Queequeg has
followed the opposite path, and renounced it.
Even in small matters, there is a connection. Her man Melville, the very name, speaks to
the sexual confusion that is obvious in the story of Violet, Sebastian, and Catherine. And
returning to the uses of the color white, we are reminded that Violet hails Sebastian as a
poet, but are his verses anything more than so many blank, white pages?
A final possibility is that the white ghost, Sebastian, who is viewed through the eyes of
others, never existed in the first place, is a figurative ghost, who haunts the psyche of
two troubled women, who cannot stand to live without their own illusions, their own
delusions, their own dreams. Could Sebastian, that figure always seeming to be disappearing
toward the bleached white horizon, be an invention of troubled minds, two troubled minds
locked in battle over something that doesn't exist outside their thoughts, two women, battling
over who will be the only one alone to escape?
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It was stormy and dark, the night. I held it closely to my visual apparati. Oh Yes. Yes. Yes.
Hollywood in the early 50s was a dream town for me. Writing, directing, working with other
geniuses like myself. And then there were the starlets, hundreds of them. I'd invite myself
over to one of their apartments (never let it be said that Gadge didn't know how to save a
dollar) on the pretense of giving an acting lesson for those new to cinema, then liquor them
up good, and go about my erotic business. Yeah, I hear you saying, not original, as a matter
of fact pretty sleazy. Yes, I agree, but fellow movie fans, it worked. As my nickname implies,
I've always been of a practical bent.
Well, one night I went over to see a promising young thespian by the name of Marilyn. She
was going out with a some schmoe named Bob, who worked at an ariplane factory, but he was out of
town, on a trip back to New England. Well, I started out with my usual routine, but alas,
I was not destined to reach my ultimate goal. No sooner did I pour the first drink, then this Marilyn took out a copy of The German Ideology and handed it to me. I took a look inside. Damn
it was in German. "Oh, I'm studying German, so I can read Marx, it's so continental," she
said. Oh no Gadge, I said to myself, how am I going to score now. I had a quick non-cinematic
flashback to my days as a comrade in New York. Hell, we'd never actually read any of that
stuff. I tried to mumble a few phrases about capital, theory of labor, whatever came into my head.
But Marilyn, this blonde beauty, spotted me as a fake a mile away. I usually don't get spotted,
you know I used to be an actor, but she saw through me completely. I tried a few more of
those old phrases, but it was only getting worse. She stood up. "Well, Mr. Kazan, I'm rather tired
and I have an Engels' monograph to read early tomorrow, before I go to the studio to shoot some
publicity photos. So. it was certainly nice meeting you, hope I see you sometime around the
lot." Well, my friends, I knew I was a goner. I could have tried some rough stuff, like I did
every once in a while, when some actress didn't appreciate my artistic genius to its full extent.
But I figured, what the hay, I'll just have to spend a ten spot. I wished Marilyn well with her
studies, left, and went to the nearest bar.
Funny how these things work out, not just in the Wood, but in the real world. A few years later
I walked into a movie theater and who should be up there on the screen, larger than life and
twice as pretty, but Marilyn. Now everybody knows her tragic story. The pills, the affairs with
the Kennedy clan, the secret lesbian relationship with Thelma Ritter. And to think I might
have played my own small role in her life, along with those no-talents. Well, that's life. Gadge
will just have to, as the kids say today, keep on keeping on. But it still rankles that a man of
superior intellectual abilities like me was thrown over for a bunch of German second-raters.
Whatever. I'm going to inform. The waiter. I want another scotch and soda.
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I think I really didn't understand the extent of the international communist conspiracy until
one night in New York. It was at a little get together with some theater friends down at somebody's
apartment in the Village. I'd been hearing a lot of talk about what a great thing communism
was, but I hadn't thought about it too much, I'm more of an instinctive kind of guy. And that
night, thank goodness, my instincts were working. So in spite of all the talk, I turned and
took a good look at Zero, and I knew right then I was looking at a potential second Stalin.
Then I turned to the other side and saw Strasberg, and I knew deep down, if something
wasn't done by somebody with enough guts, Lee would end up running the New York oblast
of the coming Soviet Union of America. Since that night, I've never regretted any action I took
that would make sure that never came to pass.
Unpublished manuscript excerpt from a memoir tentatively titled "A Streetcar named
Dzerzhinsky"
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Yep, the CPUSA was not exactly a revolutionary juggernaut, however much the extreme
anti-Communists tried to make it seem one. The Hollywood comrades did probably have
better eats than other members. And yes, there were some spies in the party or under-
ground, but it is doubtful they ever made up a great deal of the membership. Probably
many people joined, as CineSage noted, because of their interest in progressive causes,
especially civil rights. That's why Kazan seemed so ridiculous when trying to present
the CPUSA as some nefarious organization just about to take over the country. It's especially
ridiculous when applied to his little circle of theater and movie people. Maybe he realized that
himself, but he had a career to save-his own.
If I recall it correctly, Bogie and the other folks who first supported the Hollywood Ten, did so
as a free speech issue. I don't think they believed the Ten were actually communists, and when
they found out they were, that changed everything. DC + Hollywood. It's inevitable that this
would make a fascinating little sidelight in our history.
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Yes, indeed, but with Mike, it wouldn't be your grandad's Blighty. I know it is fiscally
impossible, but I would love for there to be a version of TCM that showed only foreign film
classics, that way one could see these films numerous times instead of just here and there,
every now and then. Every once in a while, Sundance or IFC will show a Mike Leigh film,
but it's a long time between showings. Sorry to go off topic, comrades. Once again,
let's return to the talented and saucy Dame Helen.
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Robinson Crusoe on Mars: Red Planet TGIF
Next: The Long Good Friday
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Yes indeed, Holly, I did see her in the Cook, etc. She was good. As with so many
other films, it's been a while, and that's one movie that really demands more than
one viewing. I'm pretty sure it won't turn up on TCM, but maybe I'll get it one of these
days.
Thinking about this English movie, it suddenly came into mind that one of my favorite
directors is Mike Leigh, though he didn't direct that one. Haven't seen him mentioned here
too much, but maybe he has been. I haven't seen one of his movies in some time, probably
why he wasn't on my mind before, but I would place him among the best of contemporary
directors period. He may be a bit of an acquired taste, but he is fantastic. All hail
Mr. Leigh.
Now back to the lovely and talented Dame Helen.
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What I most admire about Dame Helen, besides the high level of her acting, is
her willingness to make whatever sacrifices are necessary to ensure that the
integrity of her own role is maintained, especially when she goes full-frontal when
this will aid in the artistic presentation of the overall piece. Bravo. Bravissimo.
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A few that come to mind, almost immediately:
Treasure Island
Jane Eyre
The Narrow Margin
The Defiant Ones
Midnight Run
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Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice: Perfectly Forgettable Foursome
Next: The Four Skulls of Jonathan Drake
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Hello, butterscotchgreer.
Uh, oh, time to fess up. I'm really not a big fan of musicals. I like many of what people
consider classic musicals, like Singin' in the Rain, On the Town, etc. but in
general I would probably take the original non-musical version over the musical one
most times. I just happened to remember there was a musical version of +Ball of
Fire+, but I've never seen it. But, if I have time, maybe I'll try to catch it if it shows
up on TCM. It is hard to go wrong with Virginia Mayo in Technicolor.
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Holly, the point about homosexuality is an interesting one. Aunt Puppeteer seems to
know what Sebastian is up to, though it's never very explicit. Back then, there were
probably a lot more people shaking their heads than there are today. Hard to know
how people viewed this fifty years ago. I imagine it played mostly straight. There's
also the trust in psychiatry of fifty years ago that today seems overdone. And all
the talk about life, death, survival, etc., at least in the terms expressed in the film
just doesn't fit like it did back in 1959. All in all, a little florid, like the plants in Auntie's
menagerie. But the film is so solid, it still is enjoyable, even with the camp mixed in.
One of the strongest, if most obvious, impressions I came away with was the sheer
bravado of Auntie's manipulations. Thankfully, Catherine didn't break.
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Then there was Ministry of Fear set in England with, if I recall correctly, a typical
village fair where Milland wins a cake. Hope that shows up again, been a while since
I've seen it.
I happened to remember a musical version of Ball of Fire was made, and this sounds
like the one, titled A Song is Born from 1948. It starred Danny Kaye, Virginia Mayo
(hey, can't be too bad), and lots of jazz 'guest stars,' including Louis Armstrong. It
was directed by Howard Hawks, who directed Ball of Fire too. Now what is it they
say about sequels?
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If SLS pops up, and the time schedule is right, I'll probably watch it. Haven't seen it
in quite a while. No doubt a good picture. That being said, this is one of those movies
that is hard to keep on two separate tracks, the somewhat straight ahead film with
plot and characters and meaning, and the camp elements in the movie. And watching it,
I know they'll pop up, exactly when and how many hard to tell, but they'll be there,
from the overgrown meat-eating garden to the psychiatrist's healing words to Liz in
her bathing suit. After 50 years, with this kind of overdrawn material, it's hard too see
how it could be otherwise. And when those two tracks get all mixed up, it'll be even
more cinema fun.
Liz and Monty's characters are the most sympathetic. And Sebastian would have been wise
to pack an AK-47 on his little jaunts to the beach. Kate, with all the Alpha and Omega,
human nature from the primordial ooze, is really just a master manipulatrice (only in
the movie of course). Let the fun begin.
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If SLS pops up, and the time schedule is right, I'll probably watch it. Haven't seen it
in quite a while. No doubt a good picture. That being said, this is one of those movies
that is hard to keep on two separate tracks, the somewhat straight ahead film with
plot and characters and meaning, and the camp elements in the movie. And watching it,
I know they'll pop up, exactly when and how many hard to tell, but they'll be there,
from the overgrown meat-eating garden to the psychiatrist's healing words to Liz in
her bathing suit. After 50 years, with this kind of overdrawn material, it's hard too see
how it could be otherwise. And when those two tracks get all mixed up, it'll be even
more cinema fun.
Liz and Monty's characters are the most sympathetic. And Sebastian would have been wise
to pack an AK-47 on his little jaunts to the beach. Kate, with all the Alpha and Omega,
human nature from the primordial ooze, is really just a master manipulatrice (only in
the movie of course). Let the fun begin.
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I wonder if an Englishman like Hitchcock would have done any better with this material.
Have to check out Jamaica Inn sometime. I've seen parts of it, but never the entire
film, even so, it didn't look very promising. Lang was a fine director and they all have a
few misses in their credits. That's show biz. It does seem quite a departure from the
modern crime/noirs films it is surrounded by.
Tom Jones was a fantastic novel, even if Tom himself is not the most appealing of
characters. The movie hasn't aged that well, but it's a step up from Moonfleet.
No doubt Stewart Granger is one handsome guy, but for some viewers, that's not enough.
As Sir Alfred said about the opening hotel room scene in Psycho in relation to
Janet Leigh wearing a bra and (handsome) John Gavin bare chested, Half the audience
probably felt cheated. Good old Hitch.
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Swashbuckling tales are not my favorite genre, but since I had some spare time and
since Lang directed this one, I thought I would watch for a while and see how things
went. If it wasn't going well, I could always up anchor. I watched about the first third
of Moonfleet, stuck around to listen to Joan Greenwood's distinctive voice, and
then gave it up. To be kind, one could say it was a slightly above average flick, but
for the most part, pretty formulaic. Not even old George could help this one very much.
Maybe this is when he first started to contemplate suicide.
It's hard to know whether to lay the blame at Lang's feet or not, since I don't know if
this was a project he wanted to do, or if it was just a movie assigned to him. Whatever
the facts, it's hard to see how it is distinguished from your average sb'er. While there
may be a slight resemblance to David Copperfield, please don't drag the Inimitable Boz
too far into this thing. He did have his melodramatic moments, but never like this. I will
say Moonfleet makes one appreciate Long John Silver and Tom Jones all the more.
And always remember the old Latin tag: de gustibus non est disputandum.
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Nash Rambler. Don't think I'd want that as a getaway car. Whether he did it or
didn't, Al was definitely a publicity hound. He'd probably update to a brand new
Alcura.
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Rebecca: Watson meets Danvers
Next: The Birds
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Just to put in a word for Albert De Salvo. There has been increasing controversy over whether
De Salvo was the Boston Strangler, despite his confession. There was no DNA match between
De Salvo and the last victim of the Strangler. He may have been the Boston Strangler and he
may not have been, but it is no longer a certainty that he was. And there is even less evidence
that he was the Midnight Rambler.

Joseph L. Mankiewicz's Suddenly Last Summer
in Films and Filmmakers
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> Harvey is a great choice for Sebastian, but you just made me realize that I have always pictured Sebastian as a variation on Montgomery Clift. Such is the power of suggestion....
My doctor, my son. My son, my doctor. Things could get confusing in that household,
as if they're not already strange enough. Move a couch into the elevator.
Would have been a great cameo for Larry. Wouldn't see his face until near the end, then
he could turn to the camera, medium shot, and give a little mischievous grin, though that
would be out of place with the rest of the film.