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  1. Another outstanding performance on the story of Ira Hayes was in 1960 on Sunday Showcase starring Lee Marvin . I remember this and Marvin's moving portrayal of this doomed American.The scene I remember most was the death of Hayes with Marvin lying face down in a small puddle of water and drowning. If you ever get the chance to see this excellent program directed by the great John Frankenheimer watch it.

    Always though Marvin bought more to the role as he was a Scout Sniper in the Marines in WW2 and was wounded in the Battle of Saipan where most of his platoon was killed....

     

    Edited by: fredbaetz on May 8, 2010 11:56 AM

  2. I watched the Stewart / Close version of "Lion" and was very disappointed in the entire production. I am a fan of both actors and have always enjoyed their work. But every time they opened their mouths all I could do was compare them to O'Toole and Hepburn and there was no comparison. Their performance is so ingrained in my mind that I only see Peter and Kate in those roles and never anyone else. I know that is foolish but that's how I feel and I can't help it..It would be like watching some other actor as Ethan Edwards in "The Seachers" other then John Wayne.That part is also deeply ingrained in my mind. Now I can see Jeff Bridges as Rooster Cogburn in "True Grit" and I hope to enjoy it, but that's how I feel , there are just certain roles I can't watch and enjoy except for the originals....

  3. Always though Betty Field had an unique beauty about her. Very much like Sylvia Sidney's in the different type department. Hollywood never used her to her full potential in my opinion. She was terrific as Curly's wife in "Of Mice and Men" Because of her Spanish speaking ability she was a front runner at a time for the role of Maris in "For Whom the Bell Tolls", but after screen test was considered to "American"

     

    Edited by: fredbaetz on May 7, 2010 12:02 PM

  4. Iz, you are a woman after MY own heart. I have had that idea cross my mind for years now. About Ethan and Scar and Martin and Martin's mother. I guess it's true about those great mind stories.The story Aaron tells at the dinner table to Marty "That it was Ethan that found you after an Indian attack in the wagon" { I know I may not have the exact quote } was maybe only a story Ethan told his brother and or Martin and that it is only a story, maybe Ethan hadn't wanted the truth known.....

  5. As I stated in the other thread on Racism, Ethan was aware of the Comanches beliefs, he may have believed the Indian's soul was still Earth bound and would wander between the winds.So he believed the Indian had a soul or spirit Or if any other Indians find the body it would scare then in the fact that someone would leave them sightless to wander. As for scalping Scar, it was hatred of the Indian chief that drove him for at least five years and it wasn't him that killed Scar, but Marty, so it was some sort of pay back for what he did to Ethan and his family. Did Ethan know Scar before? He knew it was Martin's mothers scalp that was hanging on the pole. How did he know this? To me it says he knew the mother and maybe she was someone else special to Ethan that Scar had killed and scalped. If Scar had died of old age Ethan still would have taken his scalp, it's called Vengeance and Ethan was full of that. Ethan and Scar are more alike then different.

    I have got to read the book and see what if anything LeMay covers that the movie doesn't other then the different ending......

  6. Very well put Iz, Ethan is a racist from the start of the film. His knowledge of the customs and languages of the Indians leads you to believe that he might have lived with them and something happened that turned him to the person he was.There is a difference between him and his brother, who accepts Marty as part of the family,while Ethan makes the statement "Someone might mistake you for a half-breed". So were they raised differently or did something happen to Ethan as a young man?.Martha married the brother but loved Ethan and he her, why did she marry Aaron? Maybe Ethan was always a loner and could not be tied to one spot or home so she settled for second best, we'll never know.

    Ethan is not the only racist in "The Seachers". Laurie { Vera Miles } tell Marty "Ethan will put a bullet in her brain. Martha would want him to".She sounds like she agrees with Ethan.

    Scar is a racist on a per with Ethan. When he exits his tent and stands face to face with Ethan there is a strong similarity between the two foes.It's almost like they are looking at each others reflection with hatred in both faces. Scar knows who they are , "You, Big shoulders" nodding to Marty "He who follows"

    Ethan- "You speak pretty good American for a Comanche, someone teach you?"

    Scar- "You speak pretty good Comanche for a White man someone teach you?"

    Is Scars racism a result of "Two sons killed by White men. For each son I take many......scalps", or was it always there, like Ethan racism we'll never know.

    What changed Ethans mind about Debbie? Did the scalping of Scar prove to be what he needed for closure, or did he see Debbie as the daughter he might have had with Martha or the fact that she was the daughter of the woman he loved? Again no one knows...

    I always felt that Ethan was a lot like the dead Indian he shot the eyes out of. Like that Indian he didn't belong to the White mans or Indians world, he roamed alone between the two worlds.......

  7. This is one of the most charming James Cagney films ever and he shines in it. As Biff Grimes who is always a day late and a dollar short in life, Cagney delivers a wonderful performance. Jack Carson is great as the conman who cons Biff out of the Strawberry Blonde and about five years of his life. Rita Hayworth shines as the "Strawberry Blond , but Olivia de Havilland almost steals the picture from Jimmy as the second choice for Biff's heart and she knows it. The comedy scenes are funny and the dramatic ones may have you reaching for the Kleenex { well almost }. Raoul Walsh delivered a beautiful period love story in his own style, Walsh who also directed Cagney in "The Roaring 20's" and "the great "White Heat" shows what a all around talented director he was. A real winner for Cagney and everyone else....Biff Grimes would waltz with the Strawberry Blonde and the "Band Played On"

  8. Wonderful post MissG, so many great Western stars, just wish they were making more today. But at least we have the Cowboys and Girls of yesterday and they're still fun to watch them get headed off at the pass.....

  9. What a beauty. You can see why Gable fell in love with her. Plus a wonderful actress in comedy and drama. A tragic loss returning from that bond drive. FDR awarded her the "Medal of Freedom" posthumously as the first woman killed in the line of duty in WW2.Her last film "To Be or Not to Be" had a scene where her line was "What can happen on a plane" was cut before the film's release. The second cousin of Howard Hawks, she had a Liberty Ship named after her in WW2....

  10. Indeed this is a little unknown Cagney film which you hardly ever see broadcast. To me it's a hit and miss. Watching Cagney in anything is a pleasure and this is no exception. A fine supporting cast working with Jimmy especially loved Cara Williams {under rated actress }. Shirley Jones looks great and sexy with a girl next door quality. But the film falls short for me and I can't really put my finger on it. Cagney and the rest of the cast give it their all. The songs are just so-so. I though the best number was with Cagney and Williams " Sorry, I Want a Farrari" in addition to the title song. Roger Smith { discovered in Hawaii by Cagney } and acted in this with Jimmy and "Man of a Thousand Faces" as Lon Chaney Jr. A curious film, but should be given a look if not for anything else but to see Jimmy in his final musical....

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