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    One of the funniest, strangest, and saddest movies of

    all time is RKO's 1956 epic The Conqueror, starring

    John Wayne, certified American Hero, as... Genghis Khan.

     

    Believe it or not, that's the sanest part of the movie.

     

    At least John Wayne could ride a horse. The Tartar queen who

    steals Khan's heart is played by Susan Hayward, a pale Irish

    woman with bright red hair. Imagine Nicole Kidman trying to

    pass for Connie Chung, and you've pretty much got the idea.

     

    Khan's mother is played by Agnes Moorehead, who went on to play

    Samantha's mother on Bewitched. And Genghis Khan's "blood

    brother" is played by Pedro Armendariz, a Mexican heartthrob

    who doesn't look remotely related to John Wayne or the Mongols.

     

    Bizarre enough? We haven't even started.

     

    Ever try to cast an entire horde? It ain't easy, apparently.

    The producers couldn't quite come up with several hundred

    actual Mongolians to ride along as Khan's rampaging minions, so

    they hired... a bunch of American Indians.

     

    Who, translated through the magic of Hollywood, look exactly

    like... a bunch of American Indians.

     

    One of the most jarring moments in the entire film arrives

    about halfway through, when two actual Chinese guys appear

    briefly as extras. After a full hour of trying to convince

    yourself that John Wayne and this weird menagerie of Europeans,

    Mexicans, and American Indians are all from Mongolia, actual

    Asians look positively otherworldly.

     

    Hang on, this gets gets even better.

     

    Given the Cold War politics of 1956, everybody couldn't exactly

    fly to Mongolia to film the thing. Instead, they decided to

    substitute... Utah.

     

    Sure. Utah, Mongolia. Pretty much interchangeable. [image]

     

    Enamored with Utah's Snow Canyon area, director Dick Powell

    shot most of the film in the same exact chunk of the Utah

    desert. So if you watch closely, there are several spots where

    Wayne and Armendariz ride some great distance and wearily

    dismount... almost exactly where they started.

     

    And, since absolutely everything has to be wrong on a picture

    like this, the script aims for a weird neo-primitive

    Shakespeare vibe, giving John Wayne lines like:

     

    "I feel this Tartar wo-man is for me, and my blood says: take

    her!"

     

    and

     

    "She is wo-man -- MUCH wo-man!"

     

    and

     

    "Know this, wo-man! I take you for wife!"

     

    and so on.

     

    Let's sum up here:

     

    Imagine, if you will, the full effect of two hours of watching

    John Wayne and an Irish redhead doing caveman Shakespeare while

    trying to look vaguely Chinese, while a Mexican guy and Endora

    from Bewitched ride around in circles with a bunch of Indians

    in the middle of Utah, and somehow this is all supposed to

    represent a stirring epic on the life of Genghis Khan.

     

    Man, it's fantastic. Trust me. You've got to rent this thing

    sometime. It's a freakin' laugh riot. I pounded the table and

    cried in places.

     

    Honest. Incidentally, the film was financed by Howard Hughes,

    who most biographers don't mention was completely out of his

    mind. And even though the public laughed the film off the

    screen, Hughes thought The Conqueror was a masterpiece. Hughes

    wasted millions on this thing, then lost millions more

    promoting it, and then later spent even more millions buying up

    and hoarding every copy. As a result, the film wasn't seen

    again by the public for decades, although Hughes himself

    reportedly watched it in solitude literally hundreds of times.

     

    The Conqueror was such a colossal disaster that RKO never

    recovered. The Postman and Waterworld were bad, but Kevin

    Costner still hasn't wiped out an entire studio.

     

    Yet.

     

    ___________________________

     

    So what does this all have to do with anything in the news?

    Stay with me here.

     

    The Conqueror was also a disaster in another, much more

    horrifying way.

     

    The town of St. George, where the cast and crew spent much of

    their time, and Snow Canyon, where most of The Conqueror was

    filmed, were about 100 miles downwind of the Nevada Test Site.

     

    That's where the U.S. government tested various atomic weapons.

     

    The government didn't bother to warn anybody about the fallout.

     

    So the cast and crew of The Conqueror spent three solid months

    immersed in contaminated air, food, and water.

     

    You can guess the result.

     

    Reviewing The Conqueror's credits, from the top:

     

    * John Wayne? Died of cancer.

    * Susan Hayward? Died of cancer.

    * Agnes Moorehead? Died of cancer.

    * Pedro Armendariz? Committed suicide while dying of cancer.

    * Dick Powell? Died of cancer.

     

    And so on.

     

    By 1980, when People magazine did a headcount, at least 91

    members of the cast and crew had contracted cancer.

     

    People never found out how many of the Indian extras were

    afflicted.

     

    It's a brutal irony that John Wayne, the living embodiment of

    American uperpatriot militarism, may well have died as a

    casualty of the U.S. government's willingness to endanger its

    own people.

     

    ___________________________

     

    It gets much worse. The Conqueror is just a footnote to the

    full story. he town of St. George, none of whose citizens were

    big Hollywood stars, suffered a similar fate. Uninformed of the

    danger, and exposed in their homes for years instead of months,

    the residents of St. George eventually contracted cancers in

    staggering numbers.

     

    The Conqueror's crew numbered in the dozens.

     

    St. George's population was in the thousands.

     

    You probably wouldn't recognize any of their names. They

    weren't the sort of bigshots you'd read about in People

    magazine. They were ordinary folks, just like you and me.

     

    And they were expendable.

     

    ___________________________

     

    Fast forward 40 years...

     

    St. George is now a popular tourist gateway to Bryce Canyon and

    Zion National Parks. A steady stream of tourists passes through

    the town, on their way to gorgeous scenery and carefree skiing.

     

    Utah's web page now refers to St. George as "Utah's Hot Spot."

     

    Nobody seems to catch the irony.

     

    Not only is The Conqueror forgotten; the only people who seem

    to remember the atomic cancer cluster are the descendants of

    the victims.

     

    The full death toll of American civilians from U.S. atomic

    weapons testing may never be known.

     

    ___________________________

     

    OK, India and Pakistan have now tested some big big bangs, and

    everyone's worried about how their future nuclear stuff might

    visit all sorts of horror on their enemies.

     

    Which is scary, yeah. But how about we pay a little attention

    to what they've already done to some of their own people?

     

    India tested their nuclear weapons literally walking distance

    from several small villages where some of their own

    unsuspecting citizens live and work. And already hundreds of

    Indians are showing some of the classic symptoms of radiation

    poisoning.

     

    The Indian governnment says it's all perfectly safe, of course.

    Officials say the sick folks are just looking for a handout.

     

    Which doesn't explain why livestock is keeling over as well.

     

    Even if Pakistan and India avoid a hot war, innocent casualties

    of their conflict have already begun to mount.

     

    You wouldn't recognize the names of the villages, nor would you

    know the names of the people who live there. But they're

    ordinary folks.

     

    Expendable.

     

    ___________________________

     

    If you or I knowingly, recklessly, and needlessly kill a single

    innocent person, we then stand guilty of manslaughter and

    deserving of contempt.

     

    Does it not follow, then, that if a government knowingly,

    recklessly, and needlessly kills an innocent person -- or

    indeed, hundreds of innocents: in fact, the very people said

    government is supposed to represent -- then this government

    stands equally guilty and contemptible?

     

    ___________________________

     

    The danger of nuclear weapons lies not only in their

    detonation. It also lies in their testing, their maintenance,

    and their disposal -- indeed, in every phase of their very

    existence.

     

    Humankind will someday abolish nuclear weapons.

     

    Or vice versa.

     

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    Bob Harris is a political humorist who has spoken at over 275

    colleges nationwide. To subscribe to The Scoop by email, just

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    recent columns. The Scoop's back archives are maintained by

    Patrick Combs and The Good Thinking Company at

    http://www.goodthink.com/harris.html

     

    The Scoop is also available online in RealAudio at

    http://www.webactive.com/webactive/soapbox/monday.html

     

    Common Courage Press will soon begin publishing my Jeopardy!

    memorization tools for various subjects, along with essays

    linking the mnemonics into a coherent text. Imagine Chomskyish

    but funny Cliff's Notes you can actually remember, and you've

    got the idea. The first volume will be on American History, and

    if people like it, more will follow. Common Courage publishes

    some marvelous stuff. Check out their list at

    http://www.agate.net/~comcour/

     

    The Scoop is also often carried in the following monthlies,

    which I vigorously endorse for the great articles written by

    everybody else:

     

    * The Humanist,

    http://www.infidels.org/org/aha/publications/humanist.html

    * The Progressive Populist,

    http://www.eden.com/~reporter/current.html

    * The Funny Times, http://www.funnytimes.com/

    * OZ Magazine http://www.lbbs.org/zmag/

     

    ______________________________________________________________

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    News Editor 731 Market Street, Suite 600

    The MoJo Wire San Francisco, CA 94103

    www.motherjones.com (415) 665-6637, fax -6696

    ______________________________________________________________

    "I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the

    facts."

    -- Will Rogers (1879-1935)

     

    "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our

    monied corporations which dare already to challenge our

    government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws

    of our country." -- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

     

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    From a differant source:

     

    The rest of the story on this one remains to be told; That

    Hughes in his maddness realized that nothing could protect him

    from radiation from Nevada bomb tests, even the looney crap he

    did to protect him from germs. That Hughes felt personally

    responsible for all those deaths of the crew, and from that was

    born typical Hughes' action.

     

    After moving to Las Vegas in 1966 Hughes attempted to buy the

    State of Nevada and the White House in an effort to stop

    nuclear testing in Nevada, offering LBJ $1,000,000 if he would,

    and pouring out the bucks on Dick Nixon, Hubert Humphrey, and

    Paul Laxault.

     

    In fact it was money from Hughes for exactly that purpose that

    ended up being the infamous $100,000 in Beebe Robozo's safe

    that helped bring Nixon down. In fact during the time from

    1966-1971 close to $20 million in Hughes money went pooff and

    disapeared in the Hughes-AEC battle. Much of it ended up in the

    pockets of politicans from EVERYBODY running for president in

    1968, to a former Utah Governor, and a Salt Lake City Mayor.

     

    The man hired by the Hughes organization to run the Hughes ban

    the bomb tests in Washington, DC was none other than Larry

    O'Brien, and it was concern over how much he knew of the

    Hughes-Nixon nuke-tests bribes that lead to the witch hunt

    among Nixon's aides that sent the burglars into O'Brien's

    office, and the plumbers into trying to open the safe of Las

    Vegas Sun Publisher Hank Greenspun. Thus it is so fitting the

    memo flashed to Hughes from his cheif lawyer the night before

    Nixon resigned, "Nixon will resign at 12:00 EDT tomorrow to

    save both himself and his friends."

     

    Hughes money poured out of the cage of the Sands in

    non-discript $10 and $20 bills and into a wide variety of

    efforts to stop the bomb tests, including the Utah Peace and

    Freedom Party in 1968, WILPF and involved such well know

    figures as Barry Commoner and Linus Pauling, Funded covertly a

    march down Salt Lake City's State Street of over 1,200 carrying

    signs, "Ski Utah the Hottest Snow on Earth". And on and on!

     

    It was also this raging battle between Hughes and the AEC that

    gave birth to the downwinders'-fallout victim's movement in

    southwest Utah, and all of us orginal community activists who

    started it go back in one form, or another to those days, and

    that battle. Eventually we won! We got the media's attention

    locally, regionally, statewide, nationally, and finally

    internationally, AND ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEDIA ACTIONS WE

    TOOK WAS TO LEAK THE STORY OF POOR JOHN WAYNE AND THAT DAMNED

    MOVIE TO A BRITISH TABLOID JOURNALISTS AND STOOD BACK AND

    WATCHED THE MEDIA FREAK SHOW, KNOWING THEY MAY NOT GIVE A ****

    ABOUT THOSE OF US WHO LIVED AROUND SNOW CANYON, BUT THEY'D HOLD

    THE PRESSES FOR GOOD OLD JOHN WAYNE. AND WHEN THEY DID WE WERE

    THERE WAITING TO LINE UP THE SURVIVORS FOR PEOPLE MAG, LIFE,

    AND THE MORNING TV SHOWS, AND THE HUNDRED OR SO OTHERS, TO HIT

    THE TV TALK SHOWS, AND TO DEMAND CONGRESSIONAL ACTION.

     

    Trouble is the real rest of the story behind this is that it

    wasn't just Snow Canyon, St. George, or John Wayne, as the

    National Cancer Institute fallout report forced out last summer

    and fall clearly shows, it was all 160 million Americans living

    during those "hot years". Those 160 million American's all got

    just about the same fallout levels as did we folks in St.

    George, AND JUST AS MUCH AS DID GOOD OLD JOHN WAYNE! AND WHAT

    HAPPENED TO JOHN WAYNE AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PEOPLE IN ST

    GEORGE HAPPENED, AND STILL IS HAPPENING ALL ACROSS THIS

    COUNTRY.

     

    The NCI fallout report was only concerned with ONE radioactive

    isotope produced by the bomb tests -- Iodine 131. There were

    359 others, and many of them were far more deadly than Iodine-

    131, and unlike the thyroid cancers the Iodine caused, the ones

    they did were not 95% treatable, and survivable. The NCI report

    said the Iodine alone caused 75,000 cases of thyroid cancer

    nationwide. Add the toll from the other 359 not discussed, AND

    THE TOTAL NUMBER OF AMERICAN DEAD, INCLUDING JOHN WAYNE, WOULD

    REACH INTO THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AT THE LEAST AND INTO THE

    MILLIONS MOST LIKELY.

     

    People should rent that movie, should watch it, and should

    quickly learn to understand the full meaning behind it, and the

    tragedy of it all for not only John Wayne, or the people in St.

    George, but for themselves where ever they live, and for this

    nation as a whole. Absent such an understanding, we have no

    hope of ever surviving the endless nuclear crisies of which

    India and Pakistan are todays current chapter. Because only the

    truth of how many of our own we have already killed will ever

    make us free of the nuclear testing demon!

  2. Set in rural Kansas, "Splendor in the Grass" tells the tragically romantic tale of teenagers Deanie and Bud who repress their desires because of their families' disapproval. Coming from radically different backgrounds -- one wealthy, the other staunchly puritanical -- they allow class differences to prevent any possible union. Their passions exist purely in their hearts and minds, but the couple never physically or socially express this forbidden love. Later in life, Deanie is institutionalized following a breakdown, and she eventually returns home to resolve her feelings about Bud.

  3. could this be it?

     

    A PREVIEW OF "SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS"

     

    Currently, there are not enough Tomatometer critic reviews for Splendor in the Grass to receive a rating. Please check out a preview of the film below:

    Cast:

    Natalie Wood, Warren Beatty, Audrey Christie, Pat Hingle, Barbara Loden

     

    Director:

    Elia Kazan

     

    more cast & crew...

     

    Synopsis:

    Set in rural Kansas, "Splendor in the Grass" tells the tragically romantic tale of teenagers Deanie and Bud who repress their desires because of their families'

    disapproval...

     

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/SplendorintheGrass-1019645/preview.php

     

     

  4. sim "have dinner with me? tomorrow night? why should that be something you want?"

     

    bran "maybe becuase i figure i'll be hungry tomorrow night, now i'll pick you up at noon"

     

    sim "noon? to go to dinner?"

     

    bran "well it takes a little time to get there, its my favorite place, el cafe cabana".

     

    sim "el cafe cabana, where's that?"

     

    bran "havana"

     

    sim " havana? havana cuba, you want to take me to dinner in havana cuba!"

     

    bran "well they eat in a havana same as we do"

  5. guys and dolls is one of my all time favorite movies, the casting is inspired, it took risked that payed off very well, it really is a great film.

     

    brando "this mission is laying an egg, your stuck with a store full of repentance and no sin, now do i give you a fair rundown?"

    simmons "i won't know, i've never had a rundown".

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    bran "'there is no peace onto the wicked-Isiah 131", this is wrong".

    sim "lets just say it's a matter of opinion".

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    bran "what will he be like?"

    sim "who?"

    bran "oh... that, upright, downright, forthright square, with his close shaved chin up, who right now is marching along the proper way to proper you, what will he be like?"

    sim-"he won't be a gambler".

    bran " i can name better than you what he won't be, but what will he be?"

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    bran " in one of my darkest moments i came up with a three horse parley, shadrack, meshack and abendigo"

    ------------------------------------------------------

     

    i got the horse right here his name is paul revere, the handicapper here says its no bumsteer.

     

    i say it's valentine, he takes it by a mile, the morning lines got'em going off at five to nine.

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    bran " why nate'en, i've never known you to lay it on the line, you always take your bite off the top"

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    bran " on the day i left to make my way in the world, my daddy took me to one side, 'son', my daddy says to me,'not having the necessary lettuce to bankroll you to a very large stock, instead i'm going to stake you to some very vaulable advice...................................."

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    there are so many more great lines, i can go on and on and on......do yourself a favor and watch it with an oen mind, you will be thoroughly entertained.

  6. trading and sharing are part of a consumer/fan's "right of fair usage" IMO, its part of what keeps culture and interest alive and also why these movies are still apreciated so more money can be made from them

    i'm 38, i know an 18 yr girl who i work with, we've talk about nostalgia alot, i've made copies of or lent her old movies many times, now that she's been exposed to "mr simth goes.." or "lawrence of arabia" et cetra, aren't the rights holders better off? isn't tcm and all of us who have an interest in these cultures? the powers that be should see it the same as a supermarket giving out free samples, it gets the people hooked........too much restriction kill's the golden goose.

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