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> {quote:title=ennisdelmar2 wrote:}{quote} > As someone who was too young to really know what was going on in the world in the early 60's, I have a question. Was the innocence depicted in so many of these movies real or just Hollywood's sanitized version of reality? I can sure see a difference in the movies from early to late 60's, but how much of it was the world actually changing, or Hollywood finally showing reality? I mean, I find it hard to believe that everything was all pure and innocent in 1959 (Pillow Talk year) and then, all hell done broke loose by 1969 (Midnight Cowboy year). Any comments? Obviously, innocence didn't begin in 1959, and end in 1969. I think it is that there was an innocent, or if you prefer, naive, generation coming of age then. I was growing up in the 50s and 60s. I was born after WWII. We had no active threat like Nazi Germany. Sure, there was the growing cold war, and nukes, but it was still a time of peace. Middle class kids had no real worries. Perhaps the civil rights struggle in the early 60s was the beginning of the end of innocence, but it was faced with idealism. The "youth movement," including, but not limited to the hippies, (after all, most college kids weren't hippies,) believed they could change the world. They, (or should I say we?) did actually effect a lot of cultural and social changes, including ending the Viet Nam War. But, as the generation grew up, Viet Nam continued, there were major political scandals, leftists like the Weather Underground resorted to violence, that bubble of innocence was burst by reality, even if the spirit stayed alive in less overt ways.

I think my first choice for a film of innocence in that era would be Coppola's first feature, *You're a Big Boy Now*. It's lots of fun, weird, quirky, and the hero is definitely a babe in the NYC woods. Great soundtrack, too. Songs by John Sebastian and The Lovin' Spoonful. I think that *The Loved One* is also a film about innocence.

Given that Bin Laden looks a lot like Abraham Lincoln, and Raymond Massey played Lincoln many times, and he also played a Shah, and numerous very bad guys, I'd say Massey would be perfect! So what if he's dead? So is Bin laden.

At this point, Ben Cartwright is kind of a stiff date.

> {quote:title=Ascotrudgeracer wrote:}{quote} > He shall always be remembered as the world's most famous caveman. I never for a second believed he was living in a cave. I figured he was relaxing on a beach in Bali, sipping pina coladas. Guess I was wrong about Bali.

Nice cruise posters! They beat the **** out of Tom Cruise posters.

> {quote:title=Sprocket_Man wrote:}{quote} > Why do you over-complicate it? > He thought you were after his goods.

I wasn't. I was referring to the 1986 Jane Fonda film, *The Morning After.* I will cop to making a silly joke, though...

> {quote:title=incredibull wrote:}{quote} > By the way, *you* should be so "goofy". > > > incredibull I do try. After all, it was me that "interpreted" another poster's comments to mean that Cheetah was programming the board.

You should see *The Devil Thumbs a Ride*. It's one of his best, right up there with *Born to Kill*.

Now, if Criterion would issue the recreation of Welles' original version, using stills and script for the missing parts, like they did on Laser Disc, I would. Issue as it is shown today? I wouldn't buy it. I have the LD.

> {quote:title=Fedya wrote:}{quote} > And there will be a morning after, too. So, they'll be showing a Jane Fonda film? It is a decent one.

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote} > Oh, my, we're all so funny. If we'd been able to attend the TCM Classic Film Festival, we could have put together a *stand-up* comedy act or two. I prefer my boos sitting down. Also, my booze sitting down.

You might get more responses by posting on the forums at The Big Cartoon Database, www.bcdb.com, if you haven't already done so.

> {quote:title=incredibull wrote:}{quote} > You bit, and have confirmed my faith :-) > Okay, so you were kidding about the "strange icon." That occurred to me later. But, that's no goofier than some of the other stuff you post. That can make it hard to spot the jests...

> {quote:title=mongo wrote:}{quote} > WILLIAM CAMPBELL (1926 - 2011) R.I.P. Trelane, The Squire of Gothos, is gone.

> {quote:title=wsm24 wrote:}{quote} > Rosie O'donnel as Bonnie. When she gets killed at the end of the movie, the audience will react just as they did when Jaws was blown up. Richard Kiel wasn't blown up, he was eaten by a shark.

But the food is better.

> {quote:title=AndyM108 wrote:}{quote} > ...scraping the bottom of the barrel and coming up with a hack like Heston, whose main acting >skill was driving a chariot. > I can't agree. His main acting skill was leading people through red jello.

Besides, anyone can swim their way out of a wet paper bag.

I guess Killer Kane has taken charge...

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > (Joel sounds like the name of a wimpy Jewish accountant, not a Hollywood stud.) > Joel sounds like the name of Superman's uncle.

I first saw *Lord Love a Duck* when I was in highschool. Of course I realized that Roddy was too old for the part. But, it didn't bother me, and I loved the movie. Now that I am somewhat older, I just can't see it!

I liked Brando and Richard Harris in it quite a bit. I like Trevor Howard, but Laughton made a much better Bligh.

That is just crazy! It was bad enough that shorts are omitted from the monthly schedules, and the letterboxed designations are all wrong. But, those schedules omit whole feature-length movies? Ouch.