ValentineXavier

I can't let *The Lady Eve* go unmentioned, with Barbara Stanwyck, Henry Fonda, Charles Coburn, and Eugene Pallette. Very funny, great cast.

Well, Chinaberry named the film I was thinking of. There is a fortune in the fireplace in that one, IIRC. But, there is no fortune in the fireplace in *Night Must Fall*, is there? I certainly don't remember that there was. It was basically about who was killing girls, and was it Robert Montgomery.

Well, I agree they could use a good airing. Hopefully, down wind from me...

> {quote:title=markfp2 wrote:}{quote} > I find it interesting that with the except of #16, PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE, all the films are in color and newer than the early1960s. I guess the people who made up this list are of the generation who don't watch black & white films. Well, gee, many of the newer are worse! Maybe the people who made the list like B&W films! But, sadly, you're probably right...

> {quote:title=C.Bogle wrote:}{quote} > The Wicker Man was just on about a week ago, can't remember which channel. > It was the unedited version with Britt doing the splendid dance of the search for > the wall studs. There's a clip on YT of what I guess might be edited version. Instead > of showing the lovely Ms. Ekland intercut with Woodward suffering, there's a close up > of two gross bugs wrestling around doing who knows what. Yeech. Talk about a stark > dichotomy. I don't believe I've seen the "gross bug" version. I don't have any premium channels any more. Perhaps HBO or Cinemax has shown either the 99m 2001 restoration (available on Anchor Bay DVD,) or the 102m original director's cut. All I've seen on cable is the 88 minute version, which does indeed have Brit's splendid dance, and Sgt. Howie's uh... struggle. That 88 minute version is the original US release. "Search for the wall studs..." I like that!

They should have refunded your money, since you didn't get to see the whole film. I think they were probably legally obligated to do that. Then, for good customer relations, given out free passes. I probably would have raised hell with the manager, and definitely never gone there again, if they didn't make it right.

Kyle, don't let ignorance, stupidity, and ill-considered actions drive you away

Here's a link to my favorite brewer, and hopefully, their porter. http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/ Actually, you will have to click on "Year Round," then click on the top right label, to get a description of Bell's Porter. Edited by: ValentineXavier on Nov 23, 2010 12:40 AM

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > Brando has never been in a real noir. Nor has Clift, Newman, or any other Method-trained actor.( If I am wrong, feel free to pile on). As I said, I think *The Fugitive Kind* is a noir. It is a bit more complicated and subtle than most noirs. Also, it has serious points to make, about racism. This isn't common in noirs. But, it would be hard to be more noir than that film. Montgomery Clift's *I Confess* is generally recognized as a noir, rightfully so IMO. Both men were in several very noirish films. I'd call *One Eyed Jacks* a noir, and *Red River* is very close. *The Big Knife* is generally recognized as a noir, and I agree that it clearly is.

I can recall it, but can't quite think of the name, or the name of one of the actors. IIRC, it was a British film, set at a cottage in the country. I'm sure someone will come up with the title.

Yep, that's a good one, directed by Preston Sturges. TCM has shown it several times. My favorite Preston Sturges film is *The Great McGinty*, but he made several great screwball comedies.

Porter is a dark beer, a lager, since it is aged, sometimes in barrels. It isn't as heavy as stout, but it is similar. It is mellower than stout, and not bitter. It is robust, so it is good with strongly flavored foods, like Barbeque, steaks, even burgers, or by itself. Note that I would never drink stout with food.

> {quote:title=kriegerg69 wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=fredbaetz wrote:}{quote} > > Zounds....How could we overlook "Silent Movie". To quote Marcel Marceau ..." ---- " > > > > Actually he spoke the only word in the film....."Non" > > Actually, he said "No!" :-) It wasn't really him who said it, it was an equine ventriloquist.

I haven't watched it all yet, but I did check it in several places. That film has more jumps due to missing frames than any film I ever saw! It's sad that this is the best that survives. Also, I noticed that the card just before it said "letterboxed." I don't know how it got marked as LB, but obviously it wasn't, and obviously, this designation caused it to be cropped top and bottom on TCMHD.

More foreign films Bring back cartoon alley Give Ben M. more films to intro Serials more film noir (too much film noir is an oxymoron) Show *The Green Slime* in OAR, which is 2.35:1 Show *The Blob* on TCMHD zoomed to fill the screen from side to side, not picture boxed, as has been done. And, most of all: show the full length version of *The Wicker Man*, not the edited US version show the rare noir *Christmas Holiday* show the rare Brit noir *Johnny Nobody*

I believe that TCM has shown a few Oscar Micheaux films lately, maybe has another one or two coming up, I believe 1920's *Within Our Gates* was shown. I think I have it on the DVR.

If you wanted to give her another Cocteau film, I'd say *Orpheus*. Some Cluzot wouldn't be out of line, like *Diabolique*. If she hasn't seen Fellini, she should - perhaps my favorite, *Juliet of the Spirits*, the lead character is a woman, and it's a wonderfully surreal self discovery trip. Has she seen any classic Japanese directors, like Kurosawa, or Mizoguchi? *Rashomon* and *Ugetsu* are good starting points for them.

I haven't seen it in years, but remember liking it quite a bit. It's not just a circus film, but an escape plan thriller.

I'd bet they fell right over.

If I can find it locally, I'll try it. My favorite brew is Bell's Porter, available in a few states. Good with BBQ, but a bit rich to go with popcorn.

> {quote:title=C.Bogle wrote:}{quote} > Now, according to the Napoleonic Code, Streetcar is not a noir. Exactly! And, since Louisiana laws are based on the Napoleonic Code, Tennessee W. Would not be a part of a noir set in New Orleans. In his noir masterpiece, also starring Marlon Brando, *The Fugitive Kind*, Brando leaves NOLA for Mississippi, where noir is often practiced openly...

You only need two colors for vikings, yellow for the hair, and blue for the eyes. Should work fine.

I didn't say she had any common sense. That behavior is probably why she got their harshest prison, where many die. Personal opinion, someone was bribed to get her into a normal prison, after Peruvian public opinion had died down. But, the transfer order was done in court.

> {quote:title=wouldbestar wrote:}{quote} > I've only seen Drag Strip Girl but might consider the others if it's midnight or so and I'm out of a good chardonnay. > I'd recommend a robust, spicy, old vines Zin with most JD films. If they have a lot of music, a Willamette Valley Pino Noir is a good choice. Unless you're having popcorn. In that case, stick to beer, preferably a lager. Stay away from the IPAs. They are awful with popcorn, or JD films.

I know that, I've seen film of her since she was out. She looks more like 60. For several years she was held in a high altitude prison, very cold, with no mattress, blankets, or even windows on the cells. It aged her a lot. She's lucky to have survived it.