ValentineXavier
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*Blood on the Moon*, a film noir western that's a favorite of mine, is usually run a few times a year, so you will probably get the chance to see it again.
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Sorry, I didn't watch *El Dorado*, so I can't say. Perhaps Bob did have a tip of the slongue.
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I'm a big Criterion fan. I have about 50 Criterion LDs. I have fewer DVDs. I have several Kurosawa films too. I also have Cocteau's Orphic Trilogy, and **Juliet of the Spirits*. I probably have a couple of others I don't recall at the moment. If I had the $, I'd probably own most of their output.
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> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote}
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> http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/parties/cpusa/1935/07/organisers-manual/ch04.htm
> ?WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS FOR MEMBERSHIP IN THE COMMUNIST PARTY?
>* I pledge myself to rally the masses to defend the Soviet Union, the land of victorious Socialism.* I pledge myself to remain at all times a vigilant and firm defender of the Leninist line of the Party, the only line that insures the triumph of Soviet Power in the United States.?
Anyone who takes an oath to defend a foreign country over our own is a traitor. No need to outlaw a particular party, just go after anyone who commits such treason. But, it's still a matter for law enforcement, not for Congressional witch hunts.
Edited by: ValentineXavier on Sep 28, 2010 11:16 PM
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That's stinking badgers!
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A man's been known to die of a close miss!
Pablo in *Viva Zapata!*
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> {quote:title=scsu1975 wrote:}{quote}
> Well, Iast time I was in Detroit at midnight, everybody was dressed like Bogart, except for that one guy who dressed as Elisha Cook, Jr.
I guess you haven't been there since the 50s.
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Some favorite palindromes of mine:
Amen I call, if I fill a cinema!
Do geese see God?
Mr. Owl ate my metal worm.
I hesitate to mention my all-time favorite anagram, as it is political, but here goes:
Ronald Wilson Reagan: Insane Anglo Warlord
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*Das Boot*, *The Black Robe*, and some you cite I know are pretty accurate. I know there have been major quibbles with some others. I have an amateur's interest in anthropology, and know that anthropologists would dispute some of *Quest for Fire*. I have read that there are major inaccuracies in *Braveheart*. Of course, they can still portray their times to some extent.
It does contain some historical inaccuracies, but I think *Little Big Man* is as well qualified as many on your list. It's a tall tale, but does represent the times pretty well, and has a far better portrayal of Indians than most films.
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If you rearrange the letters in Detroit Michigan, you get midnight erotica. Doesn't prove a thing...
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> {quote:title=jamesjazzguitar wrote:}{quote}
> "Unless, of course, he thought that she might have to be carrying his baby to part with her husband".
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> That is an interesting idea but it kind of only 'works' if he lets her in on his murder plans (and we know she wouldn't of agreed to that since that is key to the entire plot). Clearly as it relates to his planning the murder getting her pregnant was a bad idea, but it is logical to assume that he had one thing on his mind at that time and it wasn't murder!
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I don't think it only works if he lets her in on his plan to murder her husband. After the deed, it would just be one more attachment between them, making it harder for her to let him go.
> But when he did plan the murder I'm going to assume he didn't even think about if she was pregnant or not with his child, and even if he had, he didn't really have a way to find out; 'hey, honey, are you pregnant???,,,why,,, well,,, because you see I want to kill your husband'.
I think you're right there. However, you will recall that he was surprised to find out she was pregnant, surprised she hadn't told him earlier. Perhaps if he had known about the pregnancy before the murder, he would have arranged an 'accident' that didn't involve him.
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> {quote:title=LoveFilmNoir wrote:}{quote}
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> Exactly! Like was I really supposed to believe that Lucas and Robin Doolin were related in THUNDER ROAD? No resemblance!
Yeah, it is hard to believe that Bob's son could be his brother...
(just in case someone didn't get the joke)
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I don't know where you get your info, Fred. I heard his dad was a hamster, and his mom a gerbil. He was just trying to pass...
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> {quote:title=jamesjazzguitar wrote:}{quote}
> I wonder if the Smith Act could be applied to someone like Angle in Nevada if she loses to Reid and Reid is then killed since she made some comments about 2nd amendment rights and having to use them if necessary, and when asked about the comments (more than once) didn't retract her initial comment.
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> I'm NOT saying that she should be tried I just wonder from a legal perspective if the Justice Dept could go after her.
While I agree that this question is a logical extension of our discussion, and I am of the opinion that the Smith Act would apply to Angle, since she has repeatedly called for taking up arms against the gov., if the voting doesn't go her way, I have to agree with Fred, to an extent. This discussion, broadly, is about how the communist witch hunts of the 50s affected the movie business.
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> {quote:title=MyFavoriteFilms wrote:}{quote}
> Ken Burns is a good one to mention in this thread. Thanks for pointing him out.
His brother Ric Burns made some good docs too, including a seven ep series on NYC.
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> {quote:title=clore wrote:}{quote}
> Yeah, I know, you're only the messenger, but no one is paying you to provide these messages either.
I would need proof to be certain of that.
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Yep, we wouldn't want grubby ghosts, hanging around in the dark...
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> {quote:title=C.Bogle wrote:}{quote}
> The committee obviously was going to give the unfriendly witnesses a hard
> time. They permitted the friendly witnesses to read prepared statements prior
> to their questioning, a privilege not extended to the unfriendly witnesses. The
> bottom line for me is that the Hollywood communists posed little threat to the
> country.
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For me, the bottom line is that as an American citizen, I have the right to be a communist, or a member of any party I please. I have the right to vote for any party, advocate for any party, and try to persuade others to vote for any party, whether the party is the Bullmoose Party, the Whigs, the Know Nothing Party, the Monster Raving Loony Party, any party at all. Congress has NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to call my political allegiances into question.
I DO NOT have the right to advocate the overthrow of our government by force, or commit any criminal acts, in the name of any party. If I, and others, are suspected of such, that is a matter for the police, prosecutors, perhaps grand juries, but it's none of Congress's damned business. For them to examine my political beliefs... well, to me, that reeks of totalitarianism, just like the communists!
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> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote}
> Thats what Da Silva tried to do at the start of his testimony, but he got kicked down by the Congressmen, since it was just Da Silva against them, and they were in charge and they out-numbered him. When people like Da Silva were in their group meetings in Hollywood, they were the ones who dominated and were in charge. There was a term they used called co-opting, taking over. A small group of them could co-opt just about any kind of organization, by teaming up and working together using agit-prop types of techniques.
Ah, well then. Now I know where the Tea Party got the tactics they used in the summer of 2009. So, perhaps it's not only commies who speak up at meetings?
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> {quote:title=jamesjazzguitar wrote:}{quote}
> Well with regards to "He was such a planner": he wasn't that great of a planner otherwise he would of used a ****!
I think part of his plan was to provide her with a baby, proving he was more of a man than her husband. But, yes, he should have used a **** before they were married. Unless, of course, he thought that she might have to be carrying his baby to part with her husband. I think planning the murder came well after they started, uh, conjugating.
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Actually, they went into some detail about Heflin's motivations, about how he felt he got all the bad breaks, like losing his scholarship, and how he felt he deserved better. He didn't do it "just for some tail," but for "the whole package," especially enough money to realize his goal of owning a motel in Vegas. He was quite a schemer.
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> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}
> To me, what makes this film unique, is that Celia stays with her psychokiller hubbie, and tries to cure him. As others have pointed out, that she would do so seems rather unbelievable.
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> But is he a psycho killer? Or is she imagining he's a psycho killer? In Spellbound, Constance (Ingrid Bergman) sticks by her "psycho killer" despite the words of others and his being convicted.
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> I think the entire point is, do you really know your guy (girl) and do you trust him? If you're going to think the worst of him at every turn, what do you really have?
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Mark may or may not have committed murder before. But he is, in his head, a confirmed would-be psychokiller. He at once relishes the compulsion, and is repulsed by it. Celia clearly doesn't trust him, in the sense that she knows this, and realizes she is in great danger. But, she wants to cure him, and believes she can. So, she knows his impulse to kill is real, but sticks with him.
In *Spellbound*, Peck is the only one who seriously thinks he might be a murder, and it is all because of something he can't remember. Ingrid doesn't really think he is psychotic, or a killer, just that he has suffered a trauma, which has caused memory loss. So, she doesn't really risk her personal safety by sticking by him. There is some professional risk.
Obviously, there are many films where a lead actor is accused of murder, and less frequently, being psychotic. Usually, it's the men who are presumed murders, and the women presumed psychotics... In many of these films, their lover/companion/mate sticks by them, believing them innocent. But, *Secret Beyond the Door* remains the only film that I can think of where one partner believes the other to be psychotic, and capable of murder, yet tries to help them and cure them, at great personal risk, instead of fleeing to safety, or bringing in the law. Of course, she does flee to safety, but returns. I think the fact that she met Bob in the woods while fleeing, yet came back, and without him, is probably the weakest link in the plot, with no good reason shown.
I love the set design by John Hubley! Surreal, and slightly baroque. He was an animator, along with his wife, Faith Hubley. Their work is well known in the experimental/independent/avant-garde film world.
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> {quote:title=markbeckuaf wrote:}{quote}
> I wondered why the screwballs died off, but I also thought they were *tied somehow to the 30's sensibility,* which is a very interesting one in terms of cinema, IMO!
You're not wrong about that. I'm just saying that WWII totally changed people's "sensibility." It would have evolved much slower, were it not for the war. Perhaps it would have continued into the mid 40s, without too much change.
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> {quote:title=C.Bogle wrote:}{quote}
> I guess the US lucked out and got the pick of the German rocket scientists. Thanks a
> million,Wernher.
Back in the day, it was said that we got the guidance men, and Russia got the propulsion men. That's why they had bigger rockets, with bigger payloads, at least at first.
ROBERT TAYLOR WAS A "SNITCH!"
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> Did you know there was a rock group from the early 70s called "Atomic Rooster"? It is a little-known fact that they were actually a cabal of commies spies.
They weren't the only ones. Why was Iron Butterfly called "Iron Butterfly?" Because their allegiance lay behind the Iron Curtain!