ValentineXavier
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Yow! I didn't know that.
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Going with the "me natal illness" of the OP, I'd cite *Rosemary's Baby*. That's natal illness, if ever I saw it... Also, *Demon Seed*.
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> {quote:title=johnm_001 wrote:}{quote}
> I refuse to believe the OP is serious.
That's what they want you to think, so they can sneak up on you...
Addendum: of course it is not kinokima who proposed burning films. I didn't mean that, and I'm sure Johnm didn't mean that. The person who originated the idea, in another thread, was someone else entirely. I apologize for perpetuating the confusion.
Edited by: ValentineXavier on Aug 16, 2010 12:16 AM
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Ethel Merman
Mick Jagger
Dwight Yokum
Kris Kristofferson
Russell Crowe
Will Smith
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> {quote:title=jamesjazzguitar wrote:}{quote}
> Collins wasn't a very good cop either in Perry Masion!
I never saw Perry Masion. But in Perry Mason, Ray Collins made a great Lt. Tragg. He was a ferocious vulture, until Perry proved him wrong. Then, he was, briefly, amiable.
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The unspoken question here is really about style. Would actor X, with their style of acting make it today? Some styles would, but some would not. The thing is, if any classic actor you care name had been born later, and come of age at a time that they would be acting today, surely their style would be quite different. Then the question becomes, did a particular actor have a depth and range, beyond just a popular style? I think that any who did would, given the right breaks, be recognized as a fine actor today. But, their style would likely be quite different.
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> {quote:title=hlywdkjk wrote:}{quote}
> *"So, I am for censoring, banning, burning, eliminating nothing. To do so is to LIE."* - VX
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> Nicely said.
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> But my favorite -
> "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
> Thomas Jefferson, as quoted in *Born Yesterday*
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> Kyle In Hollywood
While I appreciate Jefferson's sentiment, I could never make that vow, because, as Luis Bunuel said, "Thank God I'm an atheist!"
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> {quote:title=ClassicViewer wrote:}{quote}
> Well that's definitely rude that I would be associated with that kind of bunk.
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At least as far as the Corvair goes, it wasn't bunk. They stopped making them, because of that.
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> (Just my 2?)....I actually like Ben's intros a lot. He seems more relaxed in front of the camera than Robt O. He moves his body and eye focus more. He also seems to be less "star struck" than Robt O, possibly jaded from his upbringing or possibly more reverent of the "industry".
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> I do agree however, seeing a host in jeans and sneakers isn't "relaxed", it's just sloppy looking on TV. He could easily upgrade into casual shoes and tailored natty trousers and still look "relaxed".
I work at a university library, and I'd say that Ben dresses like a young college prof., and that may well be the look that they want to go with.
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> {quote:title=fxreyman wrote:}{quote}
> I guess we will just have to start referring to you as this movie channel's Ralph Nader.
Better yet, as this movie channel's Corvair...
Just so ClassicViewer is clear on the allusion:
Ralph Nader wrote a book, Unsafe At Any Speed, in which he claimed that the Corvair was apt to explode on impact, due to a misplaced gas tank, among other things...
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I take my rights *very* seriously...
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I won't challenge those greats, but I'll nominate Albert Dekker, of *Dr. Cyclops*, *She Devil*, and others, for an honorable mention. He was pretty sinister!
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> {quote:title=fredbaetz wrote:}{quote}
> I don't think anyone understood the possibalities of TV and what could be done with it better then Ernie Kovacs.His genius helped pave the way for shows like Laugh-in, Monty Python just to name a few.What he was able to accomplish with TV in its infancy was amazing. So sad he left way to soon.....
I'll second that. Kovacs was a true genius.
How about That Was the Week That Was, aka TW3 to its fans. It made David Frost.
Does anyone remember PBS' The Great American Dream Machine, with Marshall Ephron? That was a favorite of mine.
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Given that I work at a Univ. of Michigan library, I thought I'd poke around in our database, and see if I can find anything relating to him. I couldn't. Sorry.
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I'm just another zombie, zipping down the Zambezi on my Zamboni.
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I believe that has been on PBS, during pledge drives. There is one just about to end now, but I haven't spotted it on the schedule of any of the three PBS stations I get.
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I saw *Ishtar* when it was in the theaters. I thought it was a turkey then, and I haven't seen it since. Perhaps one day I will... But, I don't like Hope and Crosby road movies, either.
I never try to discourage someone from seeing *Ishtar* for themselves. Obviously, some do like it. There are plenty of films savaged by the critics, and even much of the public, that I think are fine films. I'm not afraid to say that, and I'm glad I didn't fail to watch those films just because they were panned by others.
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Should we ban *The Wizard of Oz* because it might lead to the degenerate society of *Zardoz* ?
Should we ban *Logan's Run*, because it might lead to that sort of society?
Should we ban *Fahrenheit 451*, because it might give some, like ClassicViewer, the idea to ban and burn books, and films?
Back in the 30s Alan Cranston, then a newsman but later a US Senator (just before Barbara Boxer,) published Mein Kampf in an unexpurgated, annotated form, at his own expense. He did it because the official US release was sanitized by removing Hitler's more racist stuff, and his military plans, including dividing the US with Japan. Cranston thought the American people needed to know the whole truth. The Nazis didn't. They sued in a US court, and made Cranston stop publishing it.
So, I am for censoring, banning, burning, eliminating *nothing*. To do so is to *LIE*.
Banning those who would ban or burn books or films, I would support most wholeheartedly.I'm against capital punishment, so I'm not for burning or eliminating them. But, if the US Constitution didn't outlaw cruel and unusual punishment, I would be all for making them listen to Frank Zappa's Who Are The Brain Police, constantly, for the rest of their lives.
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> {quote:title=cubswin1984 wrote:}{quote}
> My final comments to ClassicViewer on this topic are as follows:
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> The problem with your argument is gossip involves rumor. You keep ignoring or missing the facts connected between The Errol Flynn Trial & "Edge of Darkness".
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> The Errol Flynn Trail ran from Jan 11 to Feb6, 1943 while "Edge of Darkness" was released on April 24, 1943.
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> As Robert Osborne said...Errol Flynn left the set to attend the hearings. The trial and Flynn's acquittal all happened around filming and the release of the film. These facts are relevant to the production of the film.
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> Mr. Osborne was not spreading rumors about Errol Flynn. He was giving information regarding the life & times of Errol Flynn around the filming of "Edge of Darkness" which some folks might find interesting or new.
Cubswin, I quite agree with you. In this context, mention of these details of Flynn's private life is appropriate, as they do have bearing on the film, and are not gratuitous.
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> {quote:title=ClassicViewer wrote:}{quote}
> Now who's being sarcastic. Either that or you are typing in code and expect me to have superpower deciphering abilities.
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> Okay, I'll play:
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> !*(*#((*&$(#* + #*($&$(*@* = !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Muah!
I just meant that all this positive and negative back-and-forth adds up to nothing. Frankly, I find it boring, too.
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> Never been one of my favorite directors
I know what you mean. Some of my favorite John Ford films were made by Howard Hawks and Raoul Walsh...
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Ollie T, you've got to remember the era. Lots of people hated those long-haired hippies, especially the cops. Probably some of them thought it a feather in their cap to bust the Beatles, even for playing music...
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> {quote:title=Kinokima wrote:}{quote}
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> And why does there have to be more? You are making an assumption that what said was cut up but I have yet to see her say so. Maybe that is everything she said exactly.
When they quote fragments of sentences, and sentences that don't connect clearly, it's not an assumption, its an observation. I'm trying NOT to make assumptions about what was said, based on such edited evidence. But, as others have said, even if the quotes accurately characterize what she said, and there were no dropped modifiers, I don't think it is a big deal. It won't hurt either one of them.
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*Being There* Chance was mentally handicapped.