ValentineXavier

I don't recall ever seeing any feature films in school. The earliest film I remember seeing was in 4th grade, when they showed us Bell Labs science films. In HS, I remember that they showed us some WWII US propaganda films, about how Nazis used propaganda. They also showed us films about drugs, and VD. Some were gruesomely graphic. I said it before, but I want to reiterate - I don't think showing feature films that purport to be accurate history is a good idea, unless you have someone there who is qualified to point out any factual inaccuracies. OTOH, I would be much more comfortable with showing films that are admittedly fiction, but do a good job of accurately depicting an era, such as *The Grapes of Wrath*, *Black Robe*, *Wild Boys of the Road*, and numerous others.

That well may be it, but I'm not absolutely certain. Thanks for the link. Surprisingly, it isn't listed on the IMDb, that I can find.

I like Powers in lots of films, including *Nightmare Alley* and *The Mask of Zorro*. I don't blame his acting for what I consider the failure of *The Razor's Edge*. It is a good looking film, and an earnest film. It wants to be deep, but I find it hollow. It wants to be a bit like *Lost Horizon*, but was more like *Looking for Mr. Goodbar*. Although I have not read the novel, I attributed this to the difficulty of portraying a philosophical search on screen.

Thanks. I will be sure to catch it at the next opportunity, on TCM, or FMC.

> {quote:title=Swithin wrote:}{quote} >Oh, and it also has the San Francisco earthquake, which seems to be caused by a slap in the face that Ruth Chatterton receives from her father, > You know, I've long suspected that...

> {quote:title=wouldbestar wrote:}{quote}{font:Times New Roman} {font} > > {font:Times New Roman}*Leave Her to Heaven* has been mentioned several times here and I’m watching it now. The color is exquisite and you’d swear they were in real houses, the Southwest or the Maine Woods rather than the Fox set. I’d love to live in the main house for real.{font} ... I like *Leave Her to Heaven*, but it's not a favorite. But, every showing of it I've seen, the print looked way too dark, like it was in serious need of cleaning, before a transfer was done. This includes seeing it on TCM a couple of years ago (IIRC.) So, I don't understand saying "the color is exquisite." I guess I should try to catch it the next time around, and see if they have a better transfer. Edited by: ValentineXavier on Mar 11, 2012 9:03 PM

> {quote:title=Sepiatone wrote:}{quote} > *Heaven's Gate* is too short? Funny thing to say about a Michael Cimino film, as his supposed masterpiece *The Deer Hunter* was WAYYYY too long! You could cut about 45 minutes of useless crap out of it and STILL have a good story. Good Godfrey! Hadn't he ever thought of hiring an EDITOR?? > > Sepiatone > I'm not a fan of *The Deer Hunter*. *Heaven's Gate* is a way better film. I realize that it is a very long film, longer than most people like a film to be. But, I see little, if any, that I would cut. And, as I said, there are just too many gaps in the story in the last 1/4-1/3. So, it needed to be a bit longer, to fill those gaps. *HG* is a story of the times that had not really been told before, but needed to be. It was long and complicated, but very well done. I had no problem sitting through it.

> {quote:title=Swithin wrote:}{quote}Forgive my abysmal ignorance -- what exactly is SUTS? I assume it's Summer Under the Stars, or something like that, but what does that mean exactly? I was hoping that someone else would answer, but... Yes, SUTS stands for Summer Under the Stars. Each day is dedicated to the work of one actor. Even though I am never a fan of all the actors represented, I do like it, because there are always several that I like very much, and see too little of.

As someone who was born in Oklahoma in 1948, and lived there, and in Texas and Louisiana until 1958, and later too, I was not offended by the accents, and didn't find the dialog to be "cornpone," but rather typical for the time and place, and true to Steinbeck's book.

Although I believe that our views of politics and religion are very different, I strongly agree with much of what you have said, most especially that below. > {quote:title=rohanaka wrote:}{quote} > > > And having said all that.. with regard to the topic.. I would say that in a Jr. High or High School setting viewing films of a "theatrical nature" is not in and of itself a "bad" idea in a classroom setting... so long as a teacher is using the film for enrichment purposes, to expand on a topic of study.. and not TEACH the topic by watching the film. > > > > > > If the film being selected (such as the one mentioned.. Glory) is rated R and the students are not old enough to view it (in a theater on their own) then it is the parent's right (and the school's obligation) to have that communicated in advance. And then IF a parent objects to their child being exposed to a film that contains graphic violence, profanity, and racial slurs (again like the one mentioned) an alternative activity should be offered (that does not penalize the child for missing the film and offers an equal opportunity for enrichment) >

Do you really want TCM to show muppet movies? UGH!

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}Has the word "psychedelicized" ever been used anywhere else? Back in the day, yes, but rarely.

Since you said features, as well as docs, *Jungle Book* 1942 comes to mind. There are probably other movies of Kipling's tales of Mowgli. There is a doc, whose name escapes me at the moment, about a guy who raises young Canada Geese (IIRC,) and teaches them to migrate, by having them follow him as he flies an ultralight.

> {quote:title=MovieMadness wrote:}{quote}~I better whisper this, I think Heaven's Gate is a great movie~. I'll agree with you, and add that it's biggest problem is that it was too short. They had to skip too much in the last 1/3 or so. Best use of color, IMO: *Dodes Kaden* Kurosawa *Juliet of the Spirits* Fellini *200 Motels* Frank Zappa

> {quote:title=aimalac wrote:}{quote}I can understand why Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart would be featured so often, but for the life of me, why has Dean Martin been snubbed? Because SUTS is for actors.

> {quote:title=infinite1 wrote:}{quote}1. Beulah Bondi > 2. Helen Westley > 3. Anne Revere > 4. Flora Robson > 5. May Robson > 6. Edna May Oliver > 7. Ethel Merman > 8. Helen Miren > 9. Judi Dench > 10. Geraldine Page > 11. Julie Harris > > and the list goes on................. I can't agree with you about Helen Mirren. She was, and still is, rather good looking.

> {quote:title=TomJH wrote:}{quote} > And then, a final surprise in this film: the last shot. SPOILERS ALERT! With the narrative concluded and the lead characters all dispersing from camera view, Curtiz' last shot is the heart wrenching sight of a little boy looking for his father, not knowing that his father is dead. It's a moment than can reduce me to tears every time I see this film, a final haunting image. But rather than call it depressing, I am grateful to these filmmakers for helping me make this connection to the human condition, and to be so touched by it. > Well, I *do* find that last shot depressing, and also haunting. Frankly, I find much of the movie depressing. But, it is still a fine film. There are a few films I find too depressing to watch, but this is not one of them.

> {quote:title=jsom wrote:}{quote}Yes Fred...I was quoting from your post. I do not see a quote button...does this forum have that function? Apparently, you are set to "Plain Text," which is good. Here's how to quote: Click on the "Reply" button, on the reply you wish to quote. Click on the "Rich Text" tab, on the upper left of the reply screen. Click on the two little word balloons, on the right of the top bar. This will put the quoted reply on your screen. Click on the "Plain Text" tab, edit the quote, if you like. Enter your reply below the quote. When you are done, click "Post Message," on the bottom. Why change from "Rich Text" to "Plain Text?" If you don't, your reply will often appear as part of the quote. Why keep set on "Plain Text" as your default? Because if you don't, and go to edit an earlier post, it will appear in "Rich Text," but may turn to gibberish, especially if you want to edit in "Plain Text," which is easier.

> {quote:title=casablancalover wrote:}{quote}I couldn't figure out the reason to call the movie Head for it didn't seem in keeping with the persona of the Monkees. Did I miss something when I was 16? As much as I loved their music, I didn't see the movie. From a post of mine, below: >I've found on the IMDb that many don't know the meaning of "Head," in the context of this movie. So, for the benefit of younger posters on this forum, I'd like to point out that "head" is meant in context with "acid head," or "pot head." I think you did miss something, I think *Head* is a fine film. But, it might have been over the head of a 16 year-old.

> {quote:title=mongo wrote:}{quote}Today's TCM Birthday Boy > http://s592.photobucket.com/albums/tt8/MovieJoe/silver/bronze/Platinum/?action=view&current=000aaaaaaaaaaaaagk.jpg > GUY KIBBEE (1882 - 1956) >Hegthorpe, you son of a Yorkshire steer, you said you were a gunner, and it's a gunner you are!

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}Ruth Roman? Huh? She was rather sexy. I realize that some people have that opinion, and I'm not saying she was ugly, but she looked rather plain for an actress, to me.

Well, my favorite "screen gangster" is Lena Olin in *Romeo is Bleeding*.

I haven't seen *Glory*, but I don't think I've seen a historical film that didn't take some serious liberties with the truth. If a historian could vet a film, and point out the inaccuracies to the class, okay. Otherwise, I'd feel more comfortable showing a fiction film, that was an accurate depiction of the times, such as *The Black Robe* is for the 17th century. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0089937/ But, the film should be clearly labeled as fiction, and discussion should follow.

> {quote:title=JonnyGeetar wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=musicalnovelty wrote:}{quote} In the scene in which she introduces herself, she mentions some similar names. > Yes, I remember it. I was doing schtick. I do that a lot. I guess that makes you the Shanghai Jester.

I don't find *La Jette* in the least bit boring. I do find almost all spaghetti westerns insipidly boring. I find Dirty Harry movies boring. I find most action films boring. To me, most are formulaic, and stupid. But, some are very good.