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Fred, I do agree with your points, they are all valid. But, I think this clearly demonstrates that TCM would have to have at least one full-time researcher, trying to discover the true OAR for their films, and probably another full-time person to check ALL films they receive, past the credits. Even then, something like the case you present would be difficult to be certain of. When presented with the faux 4x3 version, it would be a judgment call, and require extensive viewing to make that call.

It's been a very long time since I played an instrument, or read music, but I would swear that part of Across the Universe is in Somewhere, Over the Rainbow.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}I understand that the U of M was thinking of changing its teams' nickname from the Wolverines to the Pushers. No, but they considered changing the school colors to Blue and Acapulco Gold... Just kidding, of course. And, in those days, the 60s, the jocks were the straightest people on campus.

I saw just a bit of it, while dubbing it to the HDD of my DVDR, It, and the Tay Garnett ep both looked good. I look forward to seeing them.

Oh, she has luck alright - all bad.

I liked the first photo you posted the best. Why not post it too?

There is a prior thread about this, with a link to the Gov. doc. about it: http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?threadID=162456&tstart=0

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote}Monty, forgive me for being obnoxious...I try not to correct people on these boards ( I'm sure I can use some correcting myself a lot of the time), but I just can't let your spelling of coup d'etat go. You spelt it "coup de tat", which not only is incorrect, but misses the meaning of the phrase. It's French for ( roughly speaking) "blow, or strike. against the state". ( Coup meaning "hit", and "d'etat" meaning "state". I don't know how to put the accent over the "e".) > Sorry; good post you wrote there, just had to strike a coup on your coup de tat spelling. ] Well, I would label this post a coup d' **** for tat.

I was in high school when *WEHtBJ* was released, and saw it in the theater then. I was very struck by it, and remembered it. But, I never watched it again, until recently. When I was a teen, I found it painfully sad, and tormented, so I was reluctant to watch it again. Watching it as an adult, I am really impressed by the film. I'd rate it up there with *Sunset Boulevard*. In fact, I like *WEHtBJ* better.

> {quote:title=clore wrote:}{quote}(honestly - has there ever been an actor who could convey nervousness as genuinely as Anthony Perkins?). > > The only other one that I can think of who was more or less a contemporary and could have been cast is Roddy MacDowall. Well, there's Dennis Weaver. As the motel manager in *Touch of Evil*, he was nervous, almost to the point of psychosis.

> {quote:title=skimpole wrote:}{quote} >Well obviously Bogart and Grant are cool. My non-obvious choice is David Niven in Around the World in Eighty Days. NIven was also very cool in *Casino Royale*.

I find it surprising that, a week into November, and the December month calendar still comes up "Zombies ate this page!"

> {quote:title=C.Bogle wrote:}{quote} > Even though I don't know a lot about the MC5, the little I've read made me > think they were into getting high, along with the audience and listeners. I wasn't a fan of the MC5, for various reasons. But, they were very visible fixtures of Ann Arbor back then - when AA was known as "the dope capitol of the midwest." There were even bumper stickers saying that.

Possibly *Bloody Mama*. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065481/

Definitely a classic noir. I haven't seen it in a few years. If my DVR didn't screw up, I'll watch it soon. Obviously WWII propaganda elements, but for me, they don't detract at all.

Flint certainly had a way with killer female robots.

The British series The Goodies seemed very much inspired by The Monkees.

As one of the first to reply, I also felt a bit bad about how everyone piled on. I'll admit that the OP has a legitimate concern. But, there is a difference between "filth," and 'inappropriate for children.' TCM is in no danger of becoming 'SkinnyMax.' I have never seen anything I think comes close to "filth" on TCM. I was in the hospital for a couple of weeks. They had lots of Comcast Cable channels, but no TCM. I asked why, and was told that TCM showed movies "inappropriate for children." That was eight years ago. So, I don't think they have really changed. Today, we have the V Chip, and parental locks. Anyone can set their TV to block programs based on their rating. I doubt that many here would agree that TCM should only show films appropriate for children. I think it is incumbent on the parent to deal with it, which they can easily do, without any real research. If TCM doesn't post the rating on the web schedule, well they could do that. No other changes are necessary.

> {quote:title=FredCDobbs wrote:}{quote}The French term doesn't say anything. It's meaningless. > > But with my photo and information, people learned a little about the photography, lighting, and composition of one of his scenes. Want a meaningless term, Fred? How about diegesis, or diegetic? I'm on a listserv discussion group for experimental film, where the term is used fairly regularly. When used about film, the term means the opposite of what it means in written fiction! from the wikipedia: > In film > >The classical distinction between the diegetic mode and the mimetic mode relate to the difference between the epos (or epic poetry) and drama.[5] The "epos" relates stories by telling them through narration, while drama enacts stories through direct embodiment (showing). When we come to a modern consideration of the cinema, it may appear that the medium is a straight-forward example of mimetic storytelling--but it is not. In terms of classical poetics, the cinema is an epic form that utilizes dramatic elements; this is determined by the technologies of the camera and editing. Even in a spatially and temporally continuous scene (mimicking the theatrical situation, as it were), the camera chooses where to look for us. In a similar way, editing causes us to jump from one place (and/or time) to another, whether it be somewhere else in the room, or across town. This jump is a form of narration; it is as if a narrator whispers to us: "meanwhile, on the other side of the forest". It is for this reason that the "story-world" in cinema is referred to as "diegetic"; elements that belong to the film's narrative world are diegetic elements. This is why, in the cinema, we may refer to the film's diegetic world. > >"Diegetic", in the cinema, typically refers to the internal world created by the story that the characters themselves experience and encounter: the narrative "space" that includes all the parts of the story, both those that are and those that are not actually shown on the screen (such as events that have led up to the present action; people who are being talked about; or events that are presumed to have happened elsewhere or at a different time). > >Thus, elements of a film can be "diegetic" or "non-diegetic". These terms are most commonly used in reference to sound in a film, but can apply to other elements. For example, an insert shot that depicts something that is neither taking place in the world of the film, nor is seen, imagined, or thought by a character, is a non-diegetic insert. Titles, subtitles, and voice-over narration (with some exceptions) are also non-diegetic.

James, I'm not saying that *The African Queen* is a bad film, or even that Kate is a bad actress. Clearly, her role was, in part, to be annoying. It's just that I find her too annoying, personally, in pretty much every film she's in. It's her particular style I don't like. I might have liked the film if her part was played by an actress I like, even if the other actress played the character to be just as annoying. But, that's all just subjective, personal feelings. I don't have any major objective, quantifiable, criticisms of the film. As to *The Big Sleep*, years ago, TCM ran the original version, before they added in more Bacall. I really wish they'd run that version again. I'm not saying I prefer it, but I'd sure like to see it again.

Ironically, Richard Boone played the heavy in *Hombre*, and he also played Paladin,also a very cool guy. I'd also say that probably most guys, at least, consider Cool Hand Luke devouring all those eggs to be cool too, given the circumstances.

I was amused, until I found out it would make you sad, so now I'm trying not to be...

You reminded me of the common oddity that when detectives, or the police, go to search a dark room, they rarely turn on the lights, even if they have no reason to hide their presence.

Agreed. *Ugetsu* is also a story of the women suffering for men's poor decisions, and a ghost story...

Sorry you had a problem with that highfalutin' term, Fred. But, having seen many Mizoguchi films, I can attest that the quote are spot-on about his filmmaking.