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Is another of my bubbles about to burst? I saw this movie as a teen-ager and loved it for the way it stood up for being Jewish. The hotel scene is priceless and I almost wish John Garfield's character had given the restaurant heckler what Fred gives Ray Teal's in Best Years of Our Lives. I read it got that year's Oscar for Best Picture and thought it was deserved. That this subject was even tackled back then was a major step; that it was done by Zanuck is almost insulting. I understand that although a Gentile because of his name he was so often taken for Jewish that he felt he had enough personal experience with anti-Semitism and outrage for it to make the film, That the other studio heads, nearly all Jewish, were too worried about losing money to defend themselves-or was there another reason-is what I meant above by insulting. If my Christian ancestors could face the lions, surely these men could have stood a little backlash defending what they believed in, or were part of, even if only culturally. If it is simplistic, at least the heart's in the right place. Would anybody even try to do something like this today in this PC insanity? If so, would we get an honest film or gross-out excuse for a comedy? I hope to see this again soon and see what I think.

When I vacationed there in the late 60's Maryville, Tennessee was about 15 miles east of Knoxville and next door to Alcoa, home of the company that made aluminum products and sponsored a great anthology show back in the late 50's to early 60's. The best water you will ever taste was there right out of your tap. Had a nice college and everybody was friendly. Peter Gunn was an NBC show on Monday nights for two years. I think it was 1958-1960. Hope Emerson was "Mother" the first year. The Stevens-Bernardi banter was good. Bernardi went on to be Charlie the Tuna until he died. The theme has been used in a lot of TV shows like Wiseguy and of course The Blues Brothers. I think it's what first Henry Mancini known to us fans. If the show did nothing else it gets propers for that. Glad to know it's still nice up there. I'm a Florida woman who's a misplaced mountain goat instead of a beach bunny. Please keep it that way.

If you go to www.tbo.com/ for Sunday, type in opinion, then letters to the editor, you will find three responses to this article that defend Custer and/or the military tactics of the battle. I'm not saying the native Americans are wrong; I just think both sides should be read. This is a situation with no easy answers. One civilization nearly obliterated another. That group feels justifiably wronged. As a descendant of the other side I want to believe we wern't all dishonorable but don't know what to say. Custer was vain but seems to have had a respect for the NA's whose saw all whites are destroyers. This isn't just a movie script but a wound that is still unhealed and might not be for a long time.

I have never seen Jackie Gleason as Riley and have a hard time seeing anybody but William Bendix as him. I wouldn't call it a "revoltin development" but then I can't see Bendix as Ralph Kramden, either. Are those Dumont shows on You Tube or something like that?

As long as it's Royal Dano he can look any way he needs to at any time. He never gave a bad performance and his St. Peter in King of Kings is the best of all the Biblical movies. Any time I am reading the Gospels or Acts, it is Dano I picture as Peter. Being as good a hero as you are a villain makes one great actor. After Hombre I saw The Left Handed Gun later that night. Newman was better in that but if you've seen photos of Billy the Kid you have to laugh at the difference. He didn't look like Robert Taylor or any of those other handsome fellows who've played him, either. I don't know why but in spite of this Newman seemed more believable in this movie. Maybe it was the movie, any thoughts, fellow posters? I have seen a documentary on Encore narrated by Harry Carey, Jr. Legends of the West, which says it?s a true picture of the Kid. While he certainly committed capital crimes they were not as numerous as we have been told and he did have some loyalty to some of his bosses. He had chances to change and was double-crossed on one. In this respect, Newman's portrayal was accurate. He just seemed destined to go the wrong way. I don't know how honestly the Pat Garrett role was written but John Dehner is a great foil for Newman and almost steals the movie. Another actor who could be funny or vicious as was needed and always hit his mark.

I thought I'd read this back when she was the subject of a TV Guide article and now I have verification. In August of 1959 she helped make a documentary for the American Friends Service Committee on the American Indian in Modern Society. If her acting left something to be desired her heart was in the right place.

Thank you, MissGoddess. My date book is filled for that night.

I had not seen this movie in over forty years and was delighted to get to see it again this week-end. It turned out to be like seeing it for the first time as it was so different from what I remembered. I thought it was more like a comedy as back in the 60's it seemed more amusing than scary. I liked the closeness of the family and the boy's willingness to protect them while he solved the mystery. I wasn't sure if the housekeeper was a witch or not-yes I know it was Margaret Hamilton-and who would have suspected good old Martin Milner was the real villain. I felt sorry for the ghosts though; they needed that 13th one but deserved better than him. I hope it's not another 40 odd years until the next time. Oh, wait; I'll be one by then.

I just saw it for the first time. I'm not saying I wish I hadn't but whoever said it was heavy on social commentary was right. I'm not sure how to take it except as a real 60's take on life wrapped up in a Western coating. I agreed with Russell's description of the Indian's plight and Jessie's view that life is intrinsic and not necessarily tied to our flaws or virtues. I owner if those sentiments would have made it into a movie of even ten years before. The violence and cruel treatment of the woman seems more in line with a spaghetti Western than one from our side. Maybe I need to digest this a bit more before I go on. I will say this: Richard Boone does steal the film. I am a Paul Newman fan but this seems to be just Newman playing Newman. Outside of Butch and Sundance I don't think he was a good Western fit and that movie was not a typical Western. Everybody, have a nice, safe holiday week-end.

Well fred, I've seen the first two and all I can say is it's still one good show. Our station did not carry it the first season so this is like brand new to me. I like how they are starting at square one and letting Dan come into a new place, deal with political redtape, and forge a relationship with Johnny. it gives everything a real feel. Folks, this is almost unbelievable to imagine today but back in the 50's network affiliates used to share programing. In many places there was only one station available; in Florida they were almost always CBS. According to an A&E Bio William Paley, its head, was the only one who saw potential in an mostly rural area with only 3 million people and insisted on stations here. Of course NBC had Milton Berle-Mr. Television-and people wanted to see him so he showed up on that one station. Later ABC programs got into the mix. When we finally got an NBC station both took in ABC programs until we got one of them. Most times, if was later in the season after they had proved to be bona fide hits. I've noticed when I started watching Cheyenne and Maverickthat I had two and one season's worth of episodes that were new. I think the business is too cutthroat today for anything like this to happen but then with so many channels that is probably moot. It's amazing what seeing an old show makes you remember./

Thank you, Mongo. When Rebel Without a Cause was on last night RO did not mention his death which made me wonder if this portion was a pre-record made before it happened. It did make me notice his performance as Buzz a bit more. He was good and I will look for more of his work.

Jack: Thank you for the photos. It's like watching a silent movie version and proves the picture is worth the 1k words. I'm finally getting what the movie's about and these photos are breaking my heart. I still want to see the whole thing but realize it's not going to be easy and my views might be shaken up. I saw another Taylor Western, Cattle King, today which also put a new spin on a familiar story line. He's a Wyoming cattle baron but the hero rather than the usual power-mad villian. He lays out the case against open range to President Arthur-an Easterner-fights a Texas profiteer who wants to overrun the area with his beef, and tries to work with small ranchers, farmers, and even sheepmen rather than run them off. I know he was an ultra-conservative business and outdoorsman for real so this seemed a defense of what he stood for personally. Rights of the individual to own and control their own property as well as be who they are seem to resonate through both films. This one's not great but just a nice little movie to pass the time. Robert Loggia-sexy and wonderful as always-is a not so straight arrow foreman and bad guy Robert Middleton is at his nastiest which is saying something. Give it a try. Edited by: wouldbestar on Jun 30, 2010 3:09 PM Edited by: wouldbestar on Jun 30, 2010 3:09 PM

I'm defecting to Fox Friday at "High Noon" to see Hombre largely because of what you all have posted about it here. Paul Newman is the rest and unless I've read it wrong John Russell is in it too. Great way to start a holiday week-end.

Hey, don?t forget me! I?m waiting for Thursday morning when the show?s back on. Nice appetizer while we wait for the main course. Thanks a lot even if it is a cigarette ad.

To everybody who's commented on this film; Thank you! I've never heard of it before much less seen it but you can bet that's going to change the next time I get the chance. Trust you all to expand my movie knowledge and viewing experience. I hope I do likewise to you all from time to time. It's curious that Paula Raymond appears in this movie. She was also in a Cheyenne episode about a "half-breed" soldier killed in battle but not allowed burial in the local cemetery. Her character's husband, the big man in town, is jealous because she was the guy's lover before their marriage and he thinks she still cares. The townspeople have lost kin in previous Indian fights and side with him. In the end, he's killed and the town won't budge. The Army orders the soldier buried at Arlington and gives his widow his Congressional Medal of Honor. Does that ending stay with you! This was in 1956 or 1957, could the movie have influenced the show? Thanks again, pardners! Edited by: wouldbestar on Jun 28, 2010 1:44 PM

I'm one of those kids who only remembers her from Lassie and a short about vaudeville TCM runs on occasion. I had no idea she was a stage star or that it was her voice in The Snake Pit. While I love Shirley Jones in the movie of Carousel Jan Clayton's is deeper and richer. I guess it had to be to be heard on stage while Shirley's softer one works on film. Thanks for the tip.

What a find! June Vincent nearly always played the cold, nasty villainess on the TV shows I saw her in and she must have been in her late 30's or more. Seeing her so young and animated is showing a whole different side to her. Thanks! Edited by: wouldbestar on Jun 28, 2010 12:34 PM

In the early 70's he lived here in Florida near St. Augustine. His last wife was from there and he taught drama at Flagler College. He also did a promo for our state pageant play Cross and Sword which was running in honor of our quadracentennial. My cat was so captivated by his voice she world turn to the TV and just stare when it ran. I understood completely. Izcutter: How certain an age are we talking about? Seriously, David Janssen had a great voice to go with that face. You could tell who it was before you saw him on screen. It could be tough, charming, or anything else the role called for but you knew it was him. He went way too soon. Edited by: wouldbestar on Jun 28, 2010 11:33 AM

We've left out The Song of Bernadette and this one's true. I like the original Sister Act because the message that we have to put what we stand for into action to get results was so entertainingly done we got it without it getting in the way of the fun. This doesn't apply to just religion but ethics, politics, or just wanting to be a better human being. The idea stays with you when it's more subtle.

I do! I though it went for two seasons. I know Larry Hagman joined the show when one of the older gentleman had to leave. MAD magazine did a hilarious spook of the show about the "dirty old men". They were a bit old to be charming young women but it was a Four Star program so you know it wasn't all bad. I think there was another actor named Robert Coote in the cast, can you believe that?

Yes, it is. I knew somebody could do it right. Than you also ValX for correcting me, you are right as well. At least now everyone can read it for themselves.

I watched the movie from the beginning, waited out the problems, and saw it from where they messed up to the end. Loved it and want to see it again. This has been going on since the switch from analog to digital and will probably keep going on until they find a way to fix it. Of course that will bring about other snafus, other fixes, and more snafus. That's how it goes. It's like the tubes going out on those early TV's; it was a pain but we lived through it. No one did this intentionally; it was just one of those things. If you were trying to tape the movie I can see where you'd be upset but it was shown in it's entirety and worth the time spent. Where else would we have had the opportunity outside of paying for a DDV if it's out on it? I'm sure TCM will make good and run it again as soon as possible.

And about as opposite as you can get. Great in both of them and as the Alamo's Dickinson in The Last Command. This one's told from Jim Bowie's viewpoint and is fairly accurate in the way he and the situation that brought him there is portrayed( perfectly by Sterling Hayden).

Thank you for turning me on to this charming little film. I throughly enjoyed it and will catch it again whenever possible. Loved seeing Western veterans Marie Windsor and Dub Taylor in their roles; it gave the movie a nice twist.

For those of you who get Encore Westerns they're bringing back Lawman starting on July 1st at 9:00AM EST. This was Peter Brown's frist series and let John Russell play the hero for a change after getting killed off by all the other Warner Western stars on their shows. I remember liking it and am curious to see what I think now.