wouldbestar
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I got them at a vintage book store. The DiOrio book was from 1981 published by Coward-McCann of New York. It did not paint her as a saint but was not hateful either.
The Wayne version from 1986 was published by Robson Books, LTD in Great Britain and cost 9.95L which I take was pounds. She comes accross in this as a cold, selfish woman who dominated more than loved.
Wayne also wrote one about Taylor. I have seen her name on other threads dealing with biographies but can't remember in what context. Perhaps others more familiar with her works can advise you on whether either of these books are worth a search.
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Thank you, TCM, As usual, Westward the Women was a treat. I always find something new to think about each time I see it.
What was the basis for the story? Was it a book or original screenplay? I realized today that this was made just six years after WWII ended and there was still probably a lot of anti-Japanese sentiment yet there's Henry Nakamuro playing this lovable cook, Ito. It would seem from here that Wellman took a courageous step in the casting but it added to the movie.
Also the documentary was wonderful. I'll bet actually living the story out as much as they could made the performances more believable. Thanks for that.
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fred: Did not know she won awards and nominations for playing Sally in The High and the Mighty. They were deserved. Always though Phil Harris should have been nominated for his role, too. I'm not saying she wasn't attractive but she showed you don't have to be a Marilyn or Ava to make it in movies. Thanks for the info.
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Jack: Totally agree with you about Robert Taylor's looking so much better in Ivanhoe than Quo Vadis even though it was made after it. I have two bios about Barbara Stanwyck-one fairly complementary by Al DiOrio and a rather nasty one by Jane Ellen Wayne-which go into this period of thier lives. He was obviously distressed during the Quo Vadis shooting and this probably contributed to his appearance and less than stellar acting. In Ivanhoe, it's like watching another person; younger, more at ease, and believable. Waiting for "high noon" and Westward the Women.
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I have heard of this incident and the role of John Ford in it. It wasn?t just his Westerns. Movies of his from so many genres are considered classics while DeMille's are watched and appreciated for the spectacle and special effects but are not much more than costumed soap operas. I'm not questioning his personal faith but Old or New Testament, the Bible did not need fictionalized romance, sibling rivalries, or anything else added. There's enough human conflicts and love in the pages for any writer to utilize. I applaud Mr. Ford for defending someone he probably disagreed with but believed was not getting a fair hearing and the lack of need for a "loyalty oath" for any American. The more I learn about him, the more I see he was more than a hard-drinking, foul-mouthed, autocrat but one who loved and cared about this country and all the people in it.
I missed this documentary and will catch it next time around as I want to see what part Mr. Stevens, a veteran who earned the right, played in halting what seems to have been an attempt at a ?coup?
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Mugs: Yes, you did. Being single, I had not considered that situation. I never realized how complicated all this could be. Anybody have a reply for this person?
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This is like the Academy Awards: "I'd like to thank General Eisenhower for commissioning the Allied invasion films, George Stevens for agreeing to do it, and the various governments for assisting him and his team." As horrifying as those films were, they are a record of history and can refute those who insist in claiming the Holocaust never happened. I can understand why Mr. Stevens would find it difficult to make comedies after seeing all this first hand. I was also impressed with the younger Mr. Stevens as well; both men seem to be people you would want to know or have as a friend.
I finally got to see the real General Patton; not that it matters but he was more attractive than George C. Scott.
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I must be the last to know.
One of our local papers printed the NY Times Richard Perez-Pena article yesterday. I?m glad I don?t live in Cleveland or I?d be paperless, I couldn?t support one who tries to have it both ways.
Still think one user name, vigilant monitoring, and banning continuing offenders after a certain number of warnings should be sufficient policing for the boards. If some of us want to use our real names-and some do-let them. Let the others have one user name and agree to follow the rules. We are all supposed to be adults; don?t make the overgrown delinquents ruin it for the rest.
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"You Hoo, it's me, my name is Pinky Lee".
He was a vaudeville comedian who dressed in a Pee Wee Herman type suit and Boler hat, both way too small and danced across the stage in front of a stadium box of kids. Funny songs and skits the show's main content. He had a heart attack in the middle of one show, came back, but the show was never the same again.
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This Maybelline cake mascara was still being used in the 1950's. I don't know if that was all that was available but my mother used it.
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My mother to me on many occasions: "If I rub vanishing cream on you, will you disappear?" You'd have to ask her if she meant it; I'm far from being objective.
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I think I mentioned elsewhere that after I got out on my own and met Jews, Mormans, and others that I felt I had more in common with Jews than fellow but Protestant Christians to whom I was "unsaved". This was because of how I'd been treated and their fault, not mine.
Friday, I was at the laundromat and found an Sports Illustrated from last August. According to the letters column, an article in a previous issue about a certain Gator player contained a statement by his missionary father that "75% of Philippinos are unsaved". The writer remarked that The Philippines are 80% Catholic and asked if that meant we need not apply. I will bleed orange and blue until I die and this hurt. This kind of thing will never really go away but if any of us give up when our spiritual, political, or other beliefs are attacked they win. We can do it in a civilized way that respects others but commands respect for ourselves.
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Tangee Lipstick? That was everybody's first tube back then; if Mom or Grandma didn't get it for us, we schemed, scrimped, and saved for the money to get one. It was less than a dollar but made us feel so grown up. Those aloe tubes that change color to match our tones are the heirs to this. And how about Wind Song perfume that was supposed to do the same for us scentwise?
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I'm glad I was able to introduce you all to Retro and apologize for not realizing that not everybody had access to it.
JackFavell: I agree that dated and sexist as it sometimes is, Darren McGavin's Mike Hammer is a lot better than the one Stacy Keatch did 20 years later. That one really was offensive. Mr. McG's Mike had a sense of humor that Keatch never really got down. The ladies could act as most of them proved when they became stars.
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Thank you, everybody! I just loved these and remember many. I'd forgotten Woodbury soap.
When I became an actress, the first thing I was going to do was buy a jar of Lustre-Creme and shampoo my hair like crazy. According to my mother it was two expensive for us but I suspect she was trying to discourage my sordid-to her, anyway- ambition. Rhonda Fleming and Yvonne de Carlo's adds were the ones I remember the most.
My dad was a Chesterfield man. He almost went to work for them in the early fifties which means I would have grown up in North Carolina with all that Barbecue. Can I say ?Damn!? on this and not get dinged?
So Max Factor was matching hair and lipstick colors back in the 40?s and 50?s; I bought the idea from Arlene Dahl?s book in 1965. The colors look pretty and just $1.00! Things were different back then.
I?ll have to look for Cass Timberlane if Lana Turner?s a redhead in it. It?s how I like her best. Thanks again folks for the pick-me-up.
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Watched Strangers on a Train last night and was blown away by Patricia Hitchcock. I was so worried all through the film that Bruno would kill Babs. I'm glad she got to be in on his apprehension. I take it Pat decided acting was not for her. A loss for us.
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Wow! I?ve already learned a lot just by reading the postings. I think this would be a worthwhile focus.
Nearly all of the stand up comedians we watched on TV in its early years-including ?Mr. Television?, Milton Berle-were from Jewish backgrounds and sons or grandsons of Russian immigrants. I learned much about the faith and customs this way, particularly from Sam Levinson.
The heads of almost all the major studios were too. I find it strange that one branch of the entertainment field could revel in their roots while another but more important one felt the need to hide or soft-peddle theirs. Also many Jewish stars were discriminated against: Grocho Marx?s daughter was forced out of the swimming pool at a club after being invited there by a member because she was Jewish and Kirk Douglas told of a conversation with another unknowing WASP actor who put Jews down not knowing he was speaking with one.
I am a 50?s Southern Catholic so I have some experience with bigotry. The climate was strictly WASP-****. While most of us did not have to fear lynching, being Catholic or Jewish was a half-step above being Black. Our faith determined which of our neighbors associated with my parents or what children were allowed to play with us. I was alone much of the time until I was 16 because the only two girls my
age weren?t allowed to speak to me. I finally got a more open-minded friend who moved next door to us.
I realize this is a sensitive issue, maybe more so than the other subjects profiled because faith as well as ethnicity is involved. More than any other group, the two are linked. Perhaps this is because in the beginning, they were. Before ancient Israel was leveled and the population was scattered to other countries, to be one was to be the other. Today, as with other faiths, most folks have a national origin as well as being Jewish. This might be the time to explore the topic from both sides.
As usual, I welcome comments from those who feel I?m talking through my hat. I might not change my view, but I will listen. That?s how we all learn.
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One word-Hallalujah!
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I wasn't at 8:00 but it's 12:26 now and I am. I'm impressed by Strangers on a Train and They Live by Night; he is believable and likeable in both, even as a killer in Live. It's as if I've discovered a new star-in a way i have. Will stay with him as long as I can tonight-make that morning!
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It's on again at one today. Watching it myself.
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I vote for Desk Set with Guess Who's Coming to Dinner second. I get a kick out of seeing how business has and has not changed in nearly sixty years and the interplay between the characters is delightful. If only all my workplaces were that congenial! As for Dinner, that final scene with Spencer Tracy's monologue and " that look" at Hepburn makes me blush; it's like looking in somebody's window. We all know he wasn't acting.
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I'm sorry folks, I had to defect to Fox today. The Rains of Ranchipur, Letter to Three Wives, and All About Eve have all run. I thought Wives was amazing; no wonder the story won an Oscar. The acting was on the spot and wanted the women to come out on top. This was definately today's treat.
Hey Ben, that's some clan you're in. Columbia professors and graduates who have written two of the most intelligent scripts ever and co-written Citizen Kane. And yet so many people only associate the name with Cleopatra. Don't let them!
Three cheers for Tom Rothman! He claimed that as long as he is in charge Eve will never be remade; there are some films so good they must be left alone. Sanity does exist in Hollywood.
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Watched it this afternoon on Fox and stick by my previous posting. It was beautifully photographed in glorious color, the flood and crumbling buildings scene made me feel the fear, and the acting was fairly good, especially Fred MacMurray and Joan Caulfield. Still feel it was worth the time.
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Jack and primo: RTV has been running The Cisco Kid in the mornings and that?s been fun seeing them again although it seemed strange to not have the Sunbeam Bread ads in between. As old as they are, they?re not bad.
Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels were a voice coach?s dream team. I can always spot them by sound before I see faces. Moore was a villain in many old movies and serials before TLR and Silverheels appeared in many different Indian costumes-the long-haired Geronimo in Broken Arrow comes to mind-but you can never escape those voices.
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Jack: if you want to see Hope Emerson in another riveting but totally opposite role, look for Caged with Eleanor Parker. She won an Oscar nomination playing a sadistic prison guard who gets fragged and even though you know you shouldn't, you cheer.
As to Mr. McIntire: He was in almost every movie U-I made from the late 40's until he took over for Ward Bond in Wagon Train when Bond died. He played every type of character a man could in that time. I've said you could go around the world at least once with his film end to end, probably more. He often worked with MASH's Henry/Harry Morgan. Welcome to the fan club.
MovieFanLaura: Frank Capra wrote it? That and Wellman directing explains why it's such a great movie. If it had only been in color so we could see all those desert earth tones but I'll take what I can get.
Thank you for validating what I thought I'd read about Ms. Wayne's writings. I bought this book before I came on board or I never would have got it. Will look for the one you spoke of. Thank you.
Edited by: wouldbestar on Apr 21, 2010 3:30 PM
Edited by: wouldbestar on Apr 21, 2010 3:32 PM