wouldbestar
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fxreyman: Thank you for all these articles. I needed to learn the facts behind the Paramount decision and what the Hayes Code really said. I know understand why my beloved Brentwood Theater became a branch of the Public Library and the Capitol just crumbled in the 60's. (Yes, I mean the ones in Jacksonville, FL).
I remember seeing a documentary about the industry which mentioned 1948's *The Miracle. *I think it was a religiously themed story that some found offensive. Actually I found 1959's *The Miracle,* also religiously themed, offensive but would not ban it. I'd like to see the original some time.
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{font:Times New Roman}I too, have questioned running war films on Memorial Day, July 4^th^ and Veterans Day. It seemed that the networks were just exploiting the reasons that the days existed especially if there were commercials for sales in between. I like the ones that show the training that they go through but keep asking if combat is being portrayed accurately. I know that classic stars or those who later made the grade on prime time and daytime TV were actual veterans in WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam. Clark Gable, Tyrone Power, James Stewart, Henry Fonda, David Niven, Charles Durning, James Arness, Larry Wilcox, Robert Woods, David Forsythe and James Garner are names that come quickly to mind so perhaps maybe I’m wrong about that. {font}
{font:Times New Roman}People do make money off of war, sometimes questionably, and Americans are no exception. That does not negate the cause being right or the actions of the soldiers who fight with conviction when they’d rather be at home living in peace or the civilians who care for them. It is them, the ones who died in action, that we were remembering yesterday. In November we get to thank the ones who returned, some to fight a bigger battle than the ones they came out of. They will be what that day is about, not the profiteers or other scoundrels. Both the living and the families of the departed have reason to be proud. {font}
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:0 It's *Twilight Zone* time!
Not only do James Arness and John Wayne, his friend, mentor and co-star, share a birthday but from these photos bear a strong resemblance to each other. Why I didn't notice this before I'll never know. And it's nice Jay Silverheels can provide some Indian balance to the cowboys.
Wayne's face has a sensitivity here that his "macho" image made him try keep hidden but would sneak through anyway; that's why we found him believable even when his acting style seemed a bit wooden to some. I've come to appreciate him more over the years.
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We're forgetting Neville Brand who played Capone on the TV version of *The Untouchables.* I saw him doing it earlier this morning and he was great. I did not know about Ben Gazzara playing him and that one I have to see. Thank you for the tip.
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Jake: Is that Patton with the dog? I recognize the quote from the movie but have never seen the real man.
MarlonFan: Lee J. Cobb played "Johnny Friendly". Rod Steiger was Charley Malloy. I still think this is the best movie ever made.
May all of you have a pleasant and safe holiday week-end and remember those who died making certain that we can. This is all about them, not week-end sales and "partying on". 'Nuff said.
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lane: If you go to *westernsontheweb.com* and click the interviews listing there are some with Bob Terry, James Drury and Robert Fuller about the Universal Westerns. In one, Fuller tells how he got on *Laramie* with John Smith after *Cimarron City* was canceled. I happen to think he was right about the casting but you might think the original plan was better. There are a some episodes you can watch from the later seasons to help you deside.
For you Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea fans, Drury talks about working with them on *Ride the High Country.* At any rate, both Drury and Fuller are fun to listen to and are proud to have been Western stars. I can't praise the website enough for the available films, episodes and information it provides.
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:^0 Thank you, anonymous scheduler, for giving me enough time between *Dodge City* and *San Antonio* to get my marketing done. I love both of them and seeing them on the same day was a real treat. Max Steiner fans also got to hear one of his best themes twice and we saw how color inproved between 1939 and 1945. Alexis Smith's white dress in *San Antonio* is my #3 favorite costume. What a great start to a holiday week-end!
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Kyle, I just went all the way through the thread you put on this one and thank you more than I can say. *OK Corral* is my favorite Western and the parodies were hilarious. MAD was so good at this. The Miss Beverly Hills pieces were hokey but showing just how far the comic book tie-in extended with regards to TV series and films, as well as how far back in time, was enlightening. I got more of an answer than I ever expected. Thank you!
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> {quote:title=MovieMadness wrote:}{quote}I must be blind but I will be recording *Wells Fargo*, checked two sources and both say that movie is 97 minutes.
Leonard Maltin's review on the 5-30 schedule says it was originally 115 minutes. That's 18 of them missing from the 97 minute version. I know TCM didn't do this but would like to know who did it, when and if there is a whole version around for future showing. The one I saw in 1959 seems to have been longer to me and I want to see it all.
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From casablancalover:
[Route 66|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcZ1k4d02KA&feature=fvsr]
(Left click to see the video, Right click to stay on this picture)
I clicked your link and some of the others I found available there as well. What a history this road has! The buildings, open and abandoned, had character and no zip on the interstate can ever match a trip on this highway. Thank you.
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> {quote:title=wouldbestar wrote:}{quote}If you're a *Cheyenne* fan you'll notice that this sounds like "Mountain Fortress", the first episode. The show did the same thing with other WB Western feature films. Also, James Garner said in his book they used some footage in a *Maverick* episode and even had him wearing Errol Flynn's costume so everything would match. I've never seen this but now want to.
It sounds like it because it is. I just watched the whole film and as soon as I saw the Southern soldier with the dog I knew. There was no L. Q. Jones here-Slim Pickens isn't a bad substitute-but the set looked the same in both, Patrice Wymore and Ann Robinson each wore the same dress and I'd swear they used the same Confederate flag. Even the pooch looked like he did double duty.
This is a good story about courage and determination not having any one color uniform. Errol Flynn seems to be really trying to be convincing as the Confederate CO and gets it right. I don't know if it's because their personal chemistry-they ended up married-showed on screen but the scenes with Patrice Wymore when they talk about his life back home are poignant and beautiful. Scott Forbes-later to be *Jim Bowie* on TV-is not very good here so I guess the movie had to end as it did to be believable.
I also saw Guinn Williams, Dick Jones and Sheb Wolley in the cast. This was the start of the decade, by its end all three would have or have had series on that 800 pound gorilla in the living room the studios so feared in 1950.
Flynn looked good in this movie although he was covered with dirt and stubble which would have been natural in that situation. Maybe it camouflaged the hard living that was beginning to really show. In this case it helped. All in all a good film. I can't help but wonder if WB made it in b&w because they wern't certain Flynn was bankable any more. If so its a shame as their color Westerns were so gorgeous. I'm glad I finally got to see the original.
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{font:Times New Roman}I though Monogram was the “skid row” of studios. I’ve been watching *Dillinger* and production wise it’s holding its own with the big studios. There are first class actors, cinematography, and writing; the story might be fiction but’s compelling. The crime scenes are realistic, the trains and prisons look like the real thing and my man, Mr. Tiomkin, is handling the score.{font}
{font:Times New Roman}Everyone involved seems to have gone on to better things but need not be sorry for making this film. Those “peanuts” RO said they made it for must have been M&Ms. If this is a sample of other Monogram movies, keep them coming. {font}
{font:Times New Roman}The only other version of Dillinger’s life I’ve seen is the one Nick Adams and Mary Ann Mobley made in the early 60s. It was good but this one’s a bit better. {font}
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You so & sos! I've been waiting for *Wells Fargo* to come up. Now when it does its the middle of the night and with 20 minutes lopped off if your schedule is right. I can do without the sleep but not the slicing off of part of the film. Ouch! Can you not find one with the whole 116 minutes?
This movie has a special place for me. In 1959 along with *Shane* it was part of a double feature gift to my elementary graduating class-the first from the school. I knew it was old because Bob Cummings was a big TV star then and a lot younger on screen but loved the movie and didn't care. I can't wait to see it again.
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From fredbaetz: Sadly, the show never had a chance and it was only on for 1 season. It aired on Saturday nights, up against "Have Gun, Will Travel" and "Gunsmoke"
How well I know. I had to beg to get to see the "Runaway Train" episode with Diane Brewster who-by the way-starred with Montgomery in several movies. As it turned out I saw it again when NBC used the series the following year to fill in an empty spot and recoup it loses-the cancellation story in our paper said its failure had been "costly" for it. Nobody knew then that if we waited 50 years we could catch it anytime we wanted on a contraption like this
lane, I wasn't trying to send you on a fact-finding hunt for me. I figured somebody would see the post who knew the answer and respond. I wasn't disappointed.
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{font:Times New Roman}When Dale Earnhardt, Sr. was killed in the 2001 Daytona 500 a similar situation occurred here in Florida. The papers wanted autopsy pictures which the family objected to. Since NASCAR, like the Legislature is made up of political conservatives, they got laws rammed through it to curtail who got such photos. Our “lawmakers” were happy to grease the palms of supporters for services rendered in the past, present or future.{font}
{font:Times New Roman}I didn’t like the idea of people in other states dictating to our elected officials what laws to pass even though I agreed that publishing this type of picture rarely helps an investigation unless they are being kept hidden to cover up a crime. Even then should only be published with respect for the deceased person, the families and readers’ sensibilities. {font}
{font:Times New Roman}In the actors’ cases, it was only for sensationalist purposes as they were deemed “public figures” and as such had no right to privacy. I think this ruling has been taken to extreme and needs to be modified. I don’t have to see these photos to believe that they’re tasteless, the descriptions are graphic enough. {font}
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lane: Thanks to westernsontheweb I've just spent a couple of hours with that "other" Lane and his friends from *Cimarron City.* Not a bad choice for an alter ego. I also enjoyed seeing Dan "Tiny" Blocker just before *Bonanza* hit our screens.
One question. In The Bitter Lesson the newspaperman was "Army Archard" whom we all know was a beloved Hollywood reporter for many years. Was this the real Mr. Archard? The episode cut off before the cast credits so I couldn't tell. If so, a neat inside joke.
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{font:Times New Roman}Mongo: Do you have a photo of the young Mildred Dunnock? There is a scene from *Love Me* *Tender* where she plays Elvis’s mother and he sings to her. The look of adoration on her face rivals any teenage girl’s and the years just melt away showing us the beauty that must have been there before-and still was. Thanks. {font}
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{font:Times New Roman}I did watch *The Jayhawkers* last night and after 40 or so years found it more interesting than before. This was because of our discussions of the Scott/Boetticher films and my recollection of the similarities in this movie and them. {font}
{font:Times New Roman}This is a mix of *Decision at Sundown,* a one-man *Dirty Dozen* and the Sonny Steelgrave arc from *Wiseguy.* It is longer and less intense that the S/B films and gives the relationships time to form. It is believable except for some possible playing around with history and keeps your interest even though you probably know how it must end. The story is good, the actors on target, the color and sets beautiful and the score by Jerome Maross excellent-the last *Wagon Train* theme did come from here. {font}
{font:Times New Roman}Blecher is a former Kansas border raider who escapes from prison when he learns his wife is dead. Arriving home nearly dead himself, he learns his ranch was confiscated by the state and sold to a French immigrant and his family. The wife nurses him back to health then tells him her husband was killed by other raiders whose views he didn’t share. He stays to help her and her children until he is discovered and arrested.{font}
{font:Times New Roman}The governor promises him a pardon if he will help him catch a tyrant named Darcy who wants to turn Kansas into his own personal empire. The bait: Darcy seduced then abandoned Blecher’s wife who turned to alcohol and died in shame. He agrees to help.{font}
{font:Times New Roman}What he finds is a man who has as many good qualities as evil. He finds himself liking him and is tempted to join him for real. His loyalties go up and down until things hit close to home again and he must take one side or the other. Even then, feelings die hard.{font}
{font:Times New Roman}Fess Parker is Blecher and he was born to play frontier characters. It is Jeff Chandler as Darcy who makes this all work. Like Bleacher you are taken by his charm and strange code of decency while sickened by the violence and disdain for any opposition his egomania causes and the callous way we treats women. You see the waste; Darcy could be a force for great good had he not let the hunger for power get in the way. Chandler never misses a note. {font}
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My one quibble: It’s 1860 or 61. My understanding is that Abilene was not established and the big cattle drives did not begin until after the Civil War yet both play a big part in the climax. If so, history sticklers might catch this and complain.
A charming scene is Blecher trying to help the children "learn their English". His teaching comes out "I'm agoin', he ain't a comin', she's a fixin'" and the like. I guess it will help them more than their native French.
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{font:Times New Roman}Anything else said would spoil the film. It was worth the wait. {font}
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Ok, folks, here's a real treat for you. Go to westernsontheweb.com and you can lock into more movies and TV series than you could think of. Scott, Wayne, Mitchum and anybody else that comes to mind are available. I found *The Jayhawkers* and will catch it later. There's also a 1946 Scott film, *Abilene Town,* where his leading lady is Ann Dvorak and they're great together. It's funny as well with Edgar Buchanan and Scott doing a Western version of Laurel & Hardy. There are also interviews with several film and TV stars by Bob Terry.Terry also mentions that Christopher Scott wrote a biography of his father with the title of that Statler Brothers song, *What Ever Happened to Randolph Scott?* It addresses the rumors about his private life and tells of the family's long friendship with Billy Graham who preached at the funeral. In short, what you saw on screen is pretty much what you got for real. Just thought you'd want to know.
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This is too weird to be true. Both of the men in Barbara Hale's life-Husband Bill Williams and TV boss Raymond Burr sharing a birthday? I guess that was one less day to remember buying gifts for.
The picture of Burr is great. I saw the first and last *Perry Mason* episodes last week and realized just how much he aged in those nine years. Williams Hopper and Talman did also but not as much. Barbara on the other hand seemed to become more attractive with age. Score on for us ladies.
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Kyle and filmlover: Thank you for this thread. I just started getting into it tonight and am I getting more than I bargained for. I'll be at this for days and will enjoy every minute. I remember some of the *Mad* parodies and see I only tipped the comic/movie iceberg in my post.
I really needed something like this tonight as *Norma Rae* was a bit too intense right now. This might seem like a dumb thing to be grieving about but our complex mascot "Senor Rooster", a Americana Leghorn with about a dozen different colored feathers, got done in by a some possums this morning. Just watching him strut around in the sun made you feel good. This is a very Hispanic neighborhood and you know he must have been special not to end up in a stew pot. I miss him aleady but the thread is making me smile..
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From FredCDobbs: I think maybe you intended your post to look more like this:
Fred, you know I did. Thank you for taking the time to correct it for me. I'll never take credit for another's post. I'll watch more closely before I click away.
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> > Highly enjoyable movie. My only quibble, as a student of Mesoamerican history, are the less than accurate designs of the plastering on the temples.
> > My quibble is the omission of the genocide of thousands that took place during the course of Cortez' trip to Tenochtitlan.I, too, have an unsettling feeling at the end of the movie. While that idealistic prayer and speech by the Padre at the end are "the way things ought to be" we know that they turned out the opposite of that and the natives were exploited for centuries. *Seven Cities of Gold* has a similar situation which Padre Serra tries to alleviate. I was told once that ethics and morals are meant to be a mirror of what we should be as opposed to what we so often are. I thought of that when I heard the Padre's words.
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Kahal Kadosh Beth Elohim, Synagogue, 1840, Charleston, SC
What a breathtaking view of the inside. I'm stunned but delighted that this synagogue still exists considering the hatred of the **** for the Jews and the power they held in the South and Mid-West for so long. It's a real testament to the endurance of a brave and faithful people.
In the late 70's when I was going through a tough time I would slip over to a small temple accross from where I was taking some classes and just sit in a small chapel-like room with an open Torah at the front and pray. I felt comfortable there but always worried I'd be asked to leave for being Gentile. I later learned I wouldn't have been; that's why it was open.
Kyle, I just went all the way through the thread you put on this one and thank you more than I can say. *OK Corral* is my favorite Western and the parodies were hilarious. MAD was so good at this. 
Ok, folks, here's a real treat for you. Go to westernsontheweb.com and you can lock into more movies and TV series than you could think of. Scott, Wayne, Mitchum and anybody else that comes to mind are available. I found *The Jayhawkers* and will catch it later. There's also a 1946 Scott film, *Abilene Town,* where his leading lady is Ann Dvorak and they're great together. It's funny as well with Edgar Buchanan and Scott doing a Western version of Laurel & Hardy. There are also interviews with several film and TV stars by Bob Terry.
TCM Honors Memorial Day Adjunct Poster Gallery
in Remembering Kyle in Hollywood
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{font:Times New Roman}Those of us born after the war have no idea of what our families did without in order to assure that our military personnel had what they needed to succeed. From these posters we see that there two armies and that the one at home fought as hard as the one on the battlefields. I am humbled just looking at them and wonder if today’s citizens could do as well. Thanks to all of you for taking us back in time to this piece of history. {font}
{font:Times New Roman} {font}{font:Times New Roman}Those testimonials from the stars were great as well. I hope they felt that way and weren’t just spouting speeches somebody else wrote. If those were their own thoughts, it’s too bad they couldn’t get a seat on the Supreme Court; it might not have taken until 1954 for what they said to become law. {font}