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Regarding *Buchanan Rides Alone*: I have absolutely got to see this movie. Everything I've read keeps making it more intriguing. Peter Whitney's being in the cast is another incentive; funny or villainous he's always good. As I'm a big fan of Scott and Westerns in general I can't understand how this one's escaped me.
I only got to see the last half of *Fighting Man of the Plains* which is also on my to see list. Jack was right that's rather ordinary but it's historical in that it was made in the cusp of movies to TV and so many of the actors were just a few steps away from Western fame thanks to that little box that Hollywood feared but embraced so soon after. I saw Bill Williams, Dale Robertson, an uncredited Jack Kelly and a couple others I've forgotten. This would make a good double feature with another Scott Western made six years later, *Shootout at Medicine Bend*, which gave Angie Dickinson and James Garner a leg up just before they hit it big. I get a kick out of seeing these "who knew" moments. Can't wait to catch up to these two. Right now I need to catch up to some z's.
Edited by: wouldbestar on Mar 21, 2012 10:28 PM
Edited by: wouldbestar on Mar 21, 2012 10:31 PM
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Did she play Paula's mother in *An Officer and a Gentleman?* If so, I know who you're talking about and agree from this and other things I've seen her in that she's a very compelling actress.
My computer would not let me download the iTunes. Maybe I 'll get to see it later.
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I got to see *Casablanca* on the big screen last year just after returning from the Festival; it was like getting an extra day of it. It was on TCM that night as well so I got to compare the viewings; even in HDTV home was no match for the theater experience. 
I don't know if what's now going around is a different presentation and I'm still not understanding aspect resolution but I'm sorry for those who had a bad time as this is the way to really enjoy a movie. This is one film that deserves first class treatment. -
You are driving me nuts with these ads. I know where four of these theaters were located but as the addresses are only in one I'm making a trek to the downtown library to see if any local history books can enlighten me. I know a part of the demolished Maas Brothers store buildings was obviously a theater at some point so maybe I've found another one. Again, these are fun to look at and are putting my sometimes maligned city on the Board map. Thanks!
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Someone made the comment a while back that if Marilyn had walked into an agent or producer's office at that time she would be told to drop 10 or 15 pounds. This is probably true. Yet she is also considered the most famous "sex symbol" in Hollywood history. What gives?
Also many of the other actresses of the day had similar curvy figures. They look like women rather than sticks and it was easy to believe that the leading man would go for them. I don't know how the stringbean figure became the norm but it's been overdone to the detriment of women's health. I agree with you about Marilyn and her fans do too.
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What a day! We've been discussing TV history on another thread and now I get to see these 40's color photos of real folks just being themselves and showing those of us who came later what it was like back then. One picture can be worth 1k words when they're this stunning. Thank those of you who took the time to post them for us. If nothing else, we see how fortunate we are in spite of current events.
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Clore: I just read the paper. Thank you for putting substance to supposition. As someone who grew up watching TV during this time I was able to witness and deduce much of what I read for myself but not have all the answers. This validated much of my conclusions and filled in the gaps.
One thing I recall is the differences between the UHF and VHF stations. I actually had the U and V reversed but not the functions. The UHF stations were much weaker, could only reach a much smaller viewing area and were more susceptible to weather and atmospheric conditions. You never knew when the broadcast would fade due to any of these problems. NBC's first station in our area-Northeast Florida-was one; they did not get to go VHF until 1957 or 58.
The advertising was also very weird. I remember on afternoon comedy/drama, *The World of Mr. Sweeney* that starred Charles Ruggles and Helen Wagner. This would have been around 1955 as she went to *As the World Turns* in 1956. We never saw any commercials. When the time came for a sponsor break the screen would go to a still of the smiling stars while we hear a Spanish-Mexican instrumental I'd never heard before and haven't sinse. The characters were Anglos so this was an odd fit. I later guessed that the sponsor did not have its product in our area or didn't want to pay to advertise in it as not as populated as today.
Before it became whatever it is today, *Cosmopolitan* did an article, The Look Alike, Think Alike Men of TV, that pretty much confirmed what the paper said the shows being the same. All the actors pictured were on western or cop/detective shows and bared resemblance to each other or popular film stars. In some cases they had been in more than one series or one had replaced another in a similar program. I liked some of them and bristled at the article but looking back it was true. I also remember an article about a new WB detective show that played up its similarity to the others rather than claim how different it was. One bit of honesty where you usually found baloney.
The sad part of all this is the death of live anthologies. Maybe it would have happened anyway but for many it was as close to live stage plays as they could get. It's ironic that stage performers at first rejected film work as not real acting yet when Hollywood did the same with TV embraced it and made New York the original TV capital. This and the soaps were often our only look at Broadway stars and those of the future.
The thing is that like films TV was profit driven. If an actor's films did not make money, they were dropped. If a genre fell into disfavor, other kinds of movies were made. The western cycle burned out and other types of programs took their place. Today it's "reality shows" which are anything but; they are cheap to make and get ratings. Making anything because it's quality or enlightening gets pushed out by the bottom line.
All this being said, we all have shows we loved, still watch and consider classics. There was quality mixed in with the so-so because some people had pride in what they did and wanted to use their power to reach people constructively. They kept the wasteland from being more vast than it was.
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{font:Times New Roman}Drago: You have a point. I noticed this as well but understand it. They wanted to see if their investments would pay off on screen as they did on TV before putting them into more expensive color films. Also, as with *Shootout at Medicine Bend,* they mixed stars with hopefuls-Randolph Scott and James Craig with Angie Dickinson and James Garner-to let them be seen and get a leg up.{font}
{font:Times New Roman}lzcutter: I’ll say they did! It seemed like almost every series around then not WB was Revue/MCA. While this kept people on both sides of the camera working after a while all the shows in a genre seemed the same. Yes, I know it was responsible for *Centennial* and some of my other favorite shows; this is how it seemed to me at the time. I remember saying something like this before and ruffling some feathers; that was not my intent. I just think the actors, writers and directors of that time got stretched too thinly and creativity suffered. In the 80’s a lot of what I considered to be great shows were made or released by Universal. {font}
{font:Times New Roman}{font}{font:Times New Roman}I seem to remember reading about an early 60s California ruling that the studios had to re-negotiate contracts with TV series stars then working under the traditional 7-year ones the movies had been using since the beginning because series work was different from feature film making. Was this all, just one or do I need to get set straight about what happened, if anything? It wouldn’t be the first time and, as usual, would be appreciated. Crow can be tasty with the right sauce. {font}
{font:Times New Roman}Clore: I’ll read that article when I can give it more attention. {font}
Edited by: wouldbestar on Mar 18, 2012 11:02 PM
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While I enjoyed the film I'm hopping mad it was not in color so I could see the obviously beautiful lush and green scenery. Jack Cardiff would have thought he was in heaven here to say nothing of us. It was very well written, acted and gave us insight into the way the Irish people look at life. It was worth the wait.
Luckily, I decided today to change my computer color scheme to Spring greens a few days early and found some beautiful photos of the Irish countryside and shoreline to put on my theme and screen saver options. It's hard to believe such a beautiful place is also been such a place of violence.
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Casablancalover: I too loved *Quiz Show* as I was old enough to remember when the scandal hit and many people found their reputations ruined for greed. This was on top of the "payola" bribes in the record industry, another black eye for show business. Clore: Your post is why I'm so glad I discovered the Board. This was fresh information to me and I remember how much the Disney programs were looked forward to by me. I caught on pretty early that **The Mickey Mouse Club** was just a big daily commercial for whatever movie they were pushing or the park-the forerunner of the "infomercial"-but did find much of the evening shows very enlightening. I've told before how where I lived the CBS and NBC affiliates back then would cull popular ABC shows to run on their stations when, I'm betting, their shows were losing out to the "rustled" ones. We started getting WB shows in 1957 and 58. Thanks to Encore I've been able to catch up on the *Cheyenne* and *Maverick* shows I missed. Today, I doubt this would happen until the show went into syndication. It's almost too much to believe that today Disney owns ABC.
Edited by: wouldbestar on Mar 18, 2012 7:44 PM
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:_| I fell in love with him at 10 when he played a version of *Marty* on *The Millionaire*. Back then he had a vulnerability and sensitivity in many of his roles that made you look past his face into his character's heart. That *Twilight Zone* episode, Two, is a great example of this. I remember hoping I I would find a guy like that when I grew up and if he wasn't handsome would have the sense to judge him by the inside.
I also kept hoping he would become a "star" and he finally did after *The Magnificent Seven* and *The Great Escape* playing these types of men. Unfortunately for us, when that happened he left these qualities behind for a "macho" image which left the feeling out. After *Once Upon a Time in the West* and *The Mechanic* his persona become one dimensional and robot-like with the exception of *Breakheart Pass.* He lost me as a fan; I should have been careful what I wished for. It's sad because he really had talent and charisma.
Edited by: wouldbestar on Mar 18, 2012 6:32 PM
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:^0 I've been hearing about this movie for years and today I finally get to see it. Thank you TCM!
I'm not Irish but there is no way you cannot respect a group of people who stood up to what was for much of 400 years militarily the most powerful nation on Earth for freedom of worship and governance. We might have not defeated England were it not for their immigrants in the 1700s or the Union won the Civil War without those driven here by the potato famine of the 1840s and 50s. They beat down bigotry here and rose to political and economic prominence while giving us a holiday all have embraced. Thank you all and enjoy your day.
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they don't make em like this anymore- but hey it's time for a remake with Jennifer Lopez- the Maria Montez StoryThank you, for letting me see the clips and who she was. I saw a very pretty, wholesome-looking woman who men wanted to be with and women just wanted to be. I know her personal life was not all that scandalous and she died young.
Jennifer Lopez? Is that the best the Hollywood Latin community can do? I'd go with Roselyn Sanchez who can act..
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*Jason and the Argonauts,* which is on now, seems to be an example of doctorxx's original idea behind the thread. This film is all special effects and for them to be plausible must be photographed in such a way that you don't see the "tricks of the trade" on film. The color is rich and beautiful but not garish. The lot is juvenile and the acting nothing special so it's the eye candy that keeps you watching.
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Saturday at the theater, we usually got Roy Rogers and Johnny Mack Brown. At home on TV it was Brown and Whip Wilson. Since each actor had the same villainous co-star in every film, you knew they weren't in any way real but they were so much fun you just went along for the ride. The good folks always won which didn't exactly prepare you for real life but we didn't know that.
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A Bible verse says "A prophet is never welcomed in his home country"-or something very similar. This seems to apply to Lewis.
He has proved himself to be a fine dramatic actor in several TV roles-see the *Wiseguy* "Garment District" arch-and his comedy films were successes when released. I did not know that he designed the video assist but that might be his lasting legacy. He has tirelessly devoted himself to charitable causes and in all of the several biographies I've seen about him or the Martin-Lewis team, has he ever said a negative word about Martin; in fact he speaks of him as the big brother he never had(Martin was 10 years older). If he has his demons-don’t we all-he has not let them keep him from give back to the human race. He will be long remembered after his life ends.
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I didn't know Ray Milland made other Westerns besides the one he starred in and directed, *A Man Alone.* If *Bugles* is as good, it's definately one to watch. I certainly will watch for it.
Anybody who hasn't seen *A Man Alone* has missed a good film. The reviewer in our paper back in the 60's said Milland "stars and directs, excels at both." I agree. Ward Bond and Mary Murphy are also in it.
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One of my fondest moments of the Festival was finally seeing this on the big screen at Grauman's. I couldn't tear myself away even though this type of movie is not my cup of tea. You could feel the heat and smell the odors; the passions of the characters left you as drained as if you were one of them. I was there because my first choice sold out but afterwards I didn't mind. This is what the festival is about; letting us go back in time and see what movie going was like back in those days. What an experience!
I've finally got my posting problems fixed so they should be readable from now on.
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> {quote:title=bagladymimi wrote:}{quote}In response to bmajor, could it be that this movie is "Malice"? It starred Alec Baldwin, Nicole Kidman, and Bill Pullman and I think it was done in '95. I think that Baldwin and Kidman murdered Pullman and then Baldwin double-crossed Kidman to frame her for the murder. I may have this plot all screwed up, but this might be the movie you saw.
With all due respect to [~bagladymimi] this sounds more like the remake of *Dial M for Murder* than *Malice*. The husband does kill the lover in that one. I never saw the ending as it came nowhere close to the original. Michael Douglas and Gwyneth Paltrow
*Malice* is a remake of *The Operation* with the co-ed murders thrown in to pad the plot. It's the one where Alec Baldwin Makes his "I am God" declaration. The ending is different and more satisfying than in the first version. If I'm wrong, let me know. It won't be the first time.
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{font:Times New Roman}I believe both of these theaters are still around. The Tampa, a Spanish-Moorish version of Grumman’s Chinese and built during the silent era, holds concerts and offers classic films as they were originally shown. I think the Park is now the Falk Theater and part of The University of Tampa; it’s used for stage plays. Lafayette Street was renamed JFK Blvd. after the assassination as he rode down it between Tampa and St. Petersburg the Monday before it happened. It was great to see how movies were advertised around here back then and I’ll bet those free tickets were most welcome in Depression Era times. Thank you, filmlover, for this pleasant surprise.{font}
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{font:Times New Roman}Will: I waited for Jake to reply to you as the post is to him. Since he hasn’t and I have a crock pot I hope he’ll not be offended if I butt in. I went on-line and did some research too.{font}
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{font:Times New Roman}Mine is a Hamilton-Beach who seems to make the most sizes and models. They go from 4 to 8 quarts and range from $20.00 to $50.00. Most have metal skins although some are red, white or brown with rooster trim. Rival also makes several under the name Crock-Pot; one model is in red. West Bend, Magic Chef and Kitchen Selector are others. All these can be found at Wal-Mart and you can check them out on-line. {font}
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{font:Times New Roman}I wouldn’t go lower than a five-quart size and if you can find a bargain on one go to six. The actual cooking pot is ceramic and washable. Most have clear glass or vinyl lids and you can cook low or high depending on your time frame. The food comes out tender and well-seasoned. If you follow the directions they are safe. {font}
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{font:Times New Roman}Someone put together what they had on film of this movie and AMC broadcast it just before showing *Move Over, Darling* which was the final version. Marilyn came off as quite good in the scenes she appeared in and, much as I enjoyed the Doris Day/James Garner pairing and disliked Dean Martin, I wish Fox had let them finish the film. They went south financially anyway so I doubt the extra expense would have made a difference. {font}
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{font:Times New Roman}Guinn “Big Boy” Williams was in *The Cowboy and the Senorita* with Roy Rogers and Dale Evans. * +*When Cheryl Rogers was at the Festival last year she spoke about how nice he was to her brother and her when they were on the set. I was a fan since his days on *Circus Boy+* with Mickey Braddock/Dolenz and then watching Errol Flynn movies with my mother. “Oh my” indeed. I have to watch for this one. {font}
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{font:Times New Roman} {font}{font:}{color:black}lz nominated *{font:}The Last of the Mohicans{font}* with Daniel Day Lewis and *{font:}A River Runs Through It{font}*. She knows what she's talking about.{font}
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{font:Times New Roman} {font}{font:}{color:black}Valentine, I saw Leave Her to Heaven on Fox HD. My set, a Vizio, has standard, custom, movie, vivid, game, and sports settings which alter the color configuration. I started with standard which provided jewel-like colors but caused the complexion tones, especially Cornel Wilde's, to be off so I switched to movie which muted the colors a bit but made the skin tones more lifelike. There's still plenty of color left. {font}
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I got to see *Casablanca* on the big screen last year just after returning from the Festival; it was like getting an extra day of it. It was on TCM that night as well so I got to compare the viewings; even in HDTV home was no match for the theater experience. 
I don't know if what's now going around is a different presentation and I'm still not understanding aspect resolution but I'm sorry for those who had a bad time as this is the way to really enjoy a movie. This is one film that deserves first class treatment.
Casablancalover: I too loved *Quiz Show* as I was old enough to remember when the scandal hit and many people found their reputations ruined for greed. This was on top of the "payola" bribes in the record industry, another black eye for show business.
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If you go to [www.tampabaytimes.com|http://www.tampabaytimes.com] and then to page 2B for Tuesday, March 20th, you'll find an article, Play It Again, that talks about who would play the characters in a remake. They came up with:
Clive Owen as Rick
Marion Cotillard as Ilsa
Ryan Gossling as Victor
Jamie Foxx as Sam
Jean Dujardin as Capt. Renault
Christopher Waltz as Major Strasser
Patton Oswalt as Signor Ugarte
All of these folks are Oscar winners or noisiness except Oswalt but the writer admitted that talented as they are they can never really top the originals. I think *Casablanca* is safe.
It played at three area theaters yesterday. I was a bit under the whether and stayed home but I still have last year.