Kinokima

> {quote:title=fredbaetz wrote:}{quote} > I mentioned "King Rat" in the "Kwai" thread. I watched it yesterday afternoon , for the first time in about 25 years. It is a very under rated POW film. The cast is excellent with Segal, Fox and Courtney standing out.It didn't do well when it came out and this may be because of Segal's character. He played the same type as William Holden did in "Stalag 17" and James Garner in "The Great Escape". a scrounger,, but the difference was Segal was a not very nice guy, he was out for himself until he met Fox,even then he needed Fox for translating to broker his deals,but he did form a friendship with him, Holden was a scrounger but he had a decent side, yes it took a little longer to find, and Garner was a scrounger but for the camp never really for himself. Georgie was for Georgie and that was most likely the real way it was and they were dealing with Japanese not German soldiers and guards as "Stalag" and "Escape",it was a well known fact the Japanese were a lot more brutal with their POW's.But aside from that it is a well made and probably a more honest film in dealing with the issues..... I don't know I would say Segal's character in King Rat had a decent side too. I think he genuinely did care for Fox in the same way Setton (Holden) probably cared for the narrator in Stalag 17 (sorry I forget his name). But as for his decent side yes he was not a traitor but I don't necessarily think Segal would have been either if the situation arrived. Of course the films were different in the sense that the characters in King Rat were all about survival. Escape was not an option like it was in Stalag 17 and I think that changes the tone of the story. Really the conditions of course were a lot worse in King Rat. But even in the end in Stalag 17 when Setton helped that guy escape he was getting out too & he said he expected an award. But in the end I guess the point is his motives didn't really matter as long as he helped the right side. Edited by: Kinokima on May 31, 2010 10:27 PM

> {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Criterion print. Last year, I believe they showed 3 Rene Clair films from the Criterion collection, and just recently they showed the 3 new Ophuls ones.... It looks like a pattern to me for the foreign films at least. > Well I don't know I ended up missing it because the power went out. Oh well I did see it before so it's not a big deal (and it is available on DVD). It would have been nice to record it though.

> {quote:title=helenbaby wrote:}{quote} > > > > Well, I'm one of those people who is increasingly wary of downloading anything off the internet, especially from youtube or any other site offering "free" movies. It just seems like an invitation to some hacker to steal your identity. > As someone who has downloaded from the Internet for years with no issues I can tell you a 100% that even if you had to worry about hackers they would not target the niche market of classic movie fans. And you don't have to download anything on youtube it's a streaming site. Mind you not everyone is going to want to watch a film in multiple parts on such a small screen.

And I am looking forward to recording it. It's my personal favorite from Rossellini's war trilogy. I just hope TCM will be airing the new Criterion print tonight.

> {quote:title=PrinceSaliano wrote:}{quote} > > The apologists are just as annoying as the complainers. TCM does a lot of things right and there is always room for improvement. First of all no one said TCM is perfect and can do no wrong. But I do think it is absolutely ridiculous to complain because a single day is being dedicated to this man on his centennial. If people don't like it well here is a brilliant idea, don't watch it.

> {quote:title=Ponzlaw wrote:}{quote} > In TCM's promo they define "classic" I'm sorry to say that "Gidget" doesn't belong on TCM. Nor does "The Shaggy Dog" and any other 60 and 70's and so on films belong o TCM. Why? They are not enduring except for the fact that they are imprinted on celluloid. Also, silent movies went the way of the wind as soon as talkies were invented. Why did everyone slave and sweat to develop sound for motion pictures? Because silent movies sucked, and they still suck. Is "Midnight Cowboy" a classic: for sure. I'm not saying "modern" genre films cannot be classics. But hey, let's leave flying cars and talking dogs to AMC. I am sorry but silent films do not suck. They are important part of film history and some of the best films ever made were silent. It's fine that you are not a fan of silent film but acting like they do not belong on the channel because of your personal bias is just silly. And also I will probably not watch anything on the Jacques Coustea day but that doesn't mean I am going to complain because *one day* is dedicated to this man on his centennial. The issue is some people on here seem to think the channel is all about them.

Although I still see it on the schedule I just got an e-mail from TCM that the film was canceled.

You know speaking of directors I am a bit disappointed that TCM didn't highlight directors of the month again. Not that I don't like the annual Stars of the Month but I wish there was a bit more focus on directors. And I think that would have been a great way to highlight both popular and more obscure directors.

> {quote:title=CelluloidKid wrote:}{quote} > *At least there are a whopping 24 Joan Crawford films being shown on TCM in May, June, and July 2010!! Shame on AUGUST 2010 SUMMER UNDER THE STARS!* I don't see why it is a big deal that she is not one of the 31. There are many great stars that were not chosen. Why is she special?

This film also has a small appearance by Richard Dawson (Family Feud) at the end of the movie. He sounds a bit odd because he has not yet lost his accent. Interestingly this role is what got him a job on Hogan's Heroes. Anyways I recently watched the film on Netflix (it is available instantly for those who can't catch it on TCM) and thought it was pretty good. I especially enjoyed the relationship between Segal and Fox's characters. However I did think it dragged at parts and was a bit too long.

> {quote:title=JefCostello wrote:}{quote} > This is a HORRIBLE idea. > > Remember the Audrey Hepburn Story? Or that film about James Dean's life? I know Scorsese is no slouch, but it's very difficult to have a movie star play another movie star and do it well. The casting has to be perfect. Dicaprio would not be the perfect Sinatra. > > Can't wait to see the Brando Story starring Keanu Reeves. I abhor most biopics but I guess I trust Scorsese more than most film makers. Not that all his films are my cup of tea but he does at least know his stuff when it comes to film. .

> {quote:title=MovieFanLaura wrote:}{quote} > > I taped THE WAY TO THE STARS when it was on TCM in the past. Just FYI for anyone wondering if it was a premiere. Thanks for clearing that up, well I guess since I never saw it it's still a premiere for me.

I am looking forward to The Way to the Stars too. I didn't realize it might be a TCM premiere. August just seems really far away now.

> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote} > Are they showing Ryan's Daughter? Yes that is one they are playing very late night on John Mills day!

I am copying what I said in the locked thread: OMG TCM is playing the Rossellini films with Ingrid Bergman that are not out on DVD (well 2 of them at least). I have wanted to see these films for so long. Thank You TCM. edit: And Student Prince in Old Heidelberg for Norma Shearer at 8:00 PM (Yay). One of my absolute favorite silent films. The Big Parade is also playing at 8:00 PM. A great month for silent films. And on John Mills day they are playing Hobson's Choice I guess that makes up for no In Which We Serve. Oh well he was in over 100 films so I guess I can't be too picky. Anyways I am less excited about specific stars and more excited about specific films that are being played because of the stars chosen.

> {quote:title=johnbabe wrote:}{quote} > why is tcm devoting a day to woody strobe? i never heard of him, come on and maureen ohara, what a waste of air time, she was no long lasting star, bob hope, i luv him, but a whole day of those silly comedies...........i will be waiting for bob taylor, garbo, crawford, davis and those people, and how about a day devoted to silent films with gilbert, garbo, valentino...that would be quite interesting! If you never heard of Woody Strode perhaps August 5 is a good time to learn about him. There is no way TCM can please everybody on everyday. Just be happy with the stars you like and let other people enjoy the stars they like. Just because you don't see a need for Maureen O'hara and Bob Hope doesn't mean someone else might not be looking forward to these days.

OMG TCM is playing the Rossellini films with Ingrid Bergman that are not out on DVD (well 2 of them at least). I have wanted to see these films for so long. Thank You TCM. edit: And Student Prince in Old Heidelberg for Norma Shearer at 8:00 PM (Yay). One of my absolute favorite silent films. The Big Parade is also playing at 8:00 PM. A great month for silent films. And on John Mills day they are playing Hobson's Choice I guess that makes up for no In Which We Serve. Oh well he was in over 100 films so I guess I can't be too picky.

> {quote:title=cody1949 wrote:}{quote} > In regards to John Mills in the August lineup I would love to see THE FAMILY WAY and TIGER BAY both with daughter, Hayley. I am hoping for at least one movie with his daughter Hayley too (I only recently realized he was her father) I am also hoping for In Which We Serve because I loved it last time I saw it but didn't get to record it at the time. Hobson's Choice would also be nice, okay now I am getting greedy.

Oh yay John Mills, I am looking forward to that day! I hope they play some good silents on the John Gilbert day!

I would definitely love to see more foreign classics on TCM (and not just regulated to the graveyard slot). I think their birthday tribute to Kurosawa was one of the best things the channel has done & I would love to see more things like that.

Although out of all those stars I think Hepburn did have the greatest success in later decades.

I adore Katharine Hepburn now but not so much when I was younger. She was definitely an actress I had to grow into. She isn't traditionally pretty but I admire her for her personality and her intelligence. As for my top 5 films she was in: Bringing up Baby Philadelphia Story African Queen Summertime The Lion in Winter And well I still have a lot to see. The only thing is despite their real life romance I am not a big fan of the Hepburn/Tracy films. edit: And also honorable mention to Holiday because that film is just so sweet,

I really love how TCM does tributes but I have to admit I was upset that this was the film that had to be canceled since it was the one I was most looking forward to in May. I couldn't wait for it to be rescheduled so I ended up renting it from Netflix.

So I just heard GSN will be airing a Match Game marathon on Saturday May 8th focused on Betty White's episodes (I think it is to celebrate her stint on SNL).

> {quote:title=butterscotchgreer wrote:}{quote} > > Those Screencaps are soooo cute!!! I was actually just trying to look for some cute ones, but couldn't find any. Thank you! I love watching Betty on those early game shows...do you like Family Feud? I like the ones with Richard Dawson more, b/c somehow he gets away with kissing every single woman on the show! Heehee! He's probably the only person who CAN get away with it. > I am a fan of Richard and he is definitely my favorite of the many Family Feud Hosts as well. That being said I am sort of somewhat conflicted about Richard on Feud because I know that is the reason he left Match Game and I liked him even better on there. But C'est la vie. As for the kissing I don't think he could even get away with that today. I see so many people misinterpret it and think he is some dirty old man (well maybe he was but he was certainly a charming dirty old man if that was the case). > > > What?! When did that happen? Well I haven't watched GSN in a while, maybe it happened while I was busy. That's just sad! I enjoyed watching the black and white game shows! I wonder why they decided to do that. > I am not sure of the exact date but I think sometime last year. It's one of the best classic game shows too. Actually I was thinking the special guest portion (with all the great classic stars) might be a great fit for TCM. They could play them in-between the films. *@ MissGoddess* Comparing GSN to TVLand is the perfect way to describe what is happening with the network.