Kinokima
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> > {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} Who wants to sit there and read all those captions?
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> Actually, a lot of us do. Speaking for myself, I'll take a subtitled film over a poorly dubbed one anytime.
You are not just speaking for yourself. I love foreign films and I have no issues reading subtitles and watching what's going on in the film at the same time.
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> TCM wants teens to find out that TCM is showing these movies, so the teens will go beg their fathers to pay an extra $12 a month to subscribe to a higher tier of cable channels that contains TCM as a premium channel.
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> This is one long day of commercials for TCM to get more subscribes, to get parents to sign up for a higher cable bill to satisfy their whining teenagers.
If these newer films get teens interested in older films great. But somehow I doubt most teenagers today would be interested in teen movies from the 80's. To most teens the 1980's are ancient history just as much as the 30's and 40's. So I don't think it makes a difference to them.
The teens who would be interested in TCM are probably the ones who already like classic films and don't need "newer classics" on TCM to persuade them
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I think that is my issue with these newer movies too that they *can* easily be seen on other channels. I love Ferris Bueller for example (I grew up with that movie) but I have seen it on other channels countless times.
I mean occasionally I don't mind when TCM shows a newer film if it fits a theme (and yes these movies did) but a whole evenings to teen movies from the 1980's seems unnecessary if you ask me. I am sure they could have found more teen movies from earlier decades that are not shown on other channels.
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I am 28 and also sadly never got to see these films in the theaters when they first came out. However I think I've always been attuned to classic film. My mom and dad showed me several when I was younger (although my Dad mainly showed me the old bible epics lol). I was also a big fan of the shows on Nick at Nite. And one of my fondest memories was watching The Wizard of Oz as a child whenever I went to my grandparents house. So the fact that it was old really didn't seem to bother me much.
However it wasn't really until I was in high school where I started to seek out Classic films on my own. I first fell in love with Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant, so initially their films are what I seeked out. And like *JefCostello* I started to discover new stars and started to branch out from there. Also as I got a little older I became not only interested in stars but also directors.
I've always liked foreign film but I think it was only after I left college that I started to watch a lot of classic foreign films.
One of my greatest regrets is I never took a classic film course in college. I was interested in film back then but my interest has only grown since. I also regret that I didn't get to really talk about classic films with my grandparents before they passed away, But I still have my mom to enjoy TCM with.
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I can't believe I forgot *High and Low* that is one of my favorite Kurosawa films
Just thought of another great foreign one Renoir's *La Bete Humaine* with Jean Gabin. The train scenes are stunning.
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Oh sorry if I misunderstood you I guess seeing both films together made me jump to conclusions. I appreciate that people enjoy Avatar but as much as I dislike that movie I love WALL-E.
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Twentieth Century seems to be one of those very polarizing films and I know the shouting is one of the main reasons people dislike it.
But the shouting doesn't bother me at all and I absolutely love the film. I think John Barrymore and Carol Lombard's characters are so perfectly matched in personality that seeing them drive each other crazy is wonderful for me. Just perfect chemistry!
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> Funny today when people watch the newest CGI movie like "Avatar" or "WALL E" they are turned off by anything older then 10 years (so yesterday), not knowing that movies like "Tron" started the ball rolling. The way "The Jazz Singer" (1927) introduced the public to sound and how that ever has evolved, "Tron" introduce us to CGI. Like to add there was some other techniques used like hand painted frames.
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I am sorry to get off topic but please do not compare Avatar to WALL-E.
WALL-E is a wonderful animated film that does not use its CGI to take the place of a great story. Most of the film is without dialog, it's not your average CGI film at all.
But I do agree with you it's a shame people cannot enjoy a movie without a CGI anymore. It seems the special effects are now more important than the story. People can't appreciate where these techniques came from in the first place.
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I recently watched Night Train to Munich and a significant part of that film takes place on a train, hence the title.
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> It's plot was light, not heavy. A good movie to take a date to probably. TV viewers can't judge its Oscar worth in 1950's theatres.
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I personally think if you cannot judge why a movie is Oscar Worthy on a TV screen than it is not Oscar worthy in the first place.
This is one of the reasons I was happy Avatar did not win Best Picture.
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I missed the Massey film but I saw the Fonda film Friday night and really enjoyed it. I think a lot of that probably has to do with Ford's direction and I enjoyed the story it told: we got to see the man before he became President. Lincoln I realized is probably the most idolized president of US history (well maybe him and George Washington) so I think it was nice to see him as human.
My only issue is despite doing a good job with makeup (I thought Fonda definitely looked like Lincoln) it was hard for me to separate Fonda from the character once I heard him speak.
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> There is usually some truth in cliches, but the difference between American and
> British movie sensibilities would be a massive use of time and effort, best left to
> the experts. With all respect to Lubitsch, the British had plenty of talent of their
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Lubitsch was also technically European. In fact some of the best Hollywood directors were not from the US at all: Billy Wilder, Hitchcock, Fritz Lang, etc.
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> What movie could you name in the last 10 (or a lot longer) years that really touched you, inspired you, maybe brought a tear or a honest to goodness genuine laugh.
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> It still happens, if rarely. Certainly MILK is sensitive and heartfelt. GRAN TORINO is good. A couple of Woody Allen films have hit the mark. And, to be honest, I liked SPIDER-MAN. But that's probably not what you had in mind!
I would also add several of Pixar's productions. I know they are for kids but for me they are the type of films that can be enjoyed by anyone.
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> Does anyone else think that sometimes British films don't "take" as well with American audiences because of cultural or linguistic differences? ie, Americans don't always "get" the British sensibility?(see my earlier post a few messages back)
> I mean the larger American public, because those who participate on these boards are hard core film lovers who have moved beyond seeing those kinds of differences as obstacles to enjoying the film.
Although I sometimes have an issue understanding this because I never had a problem, I think you are right. I think your average American is turned off from anything that is slightly different or not what they are used to. But then I think the average American isn't too keen on classic films for the same reason because they are different from the films that are coming out today.
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Well it isn't till November but I am looking forward to seeing Michael J Fox's selections as guest programmer.
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A bit off topic but I really hope TCM plays *The Man Between* again soon because I recorded it along with *the Odd Man Out* last night but I literally lost the last minute of the film.
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I love it and the film after *The Man Between* Those two films are what turned me from a casual James Mason fan to a huge fan.
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> And Star of the Month, Fredric March with *Death of a Salesman* which, I believe, is a premiere.
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Oh wait it is on the schedule? That;s the first thing I looked for when I read he was SOTM but I couldn't find it. But if it is there that makes me very happy.
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> *FREDRIC MARCH* is the SOTM for October 2010.
Jumps Up and Down YES YES YES
But that being said I am kind of disappointed in no Death of a Salesman or the Desperate Hours on the schedule.
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My name has nothing to do with classic film lol
The first part Kino comes from the main character in this series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino%27s_Journey
And the next part Kima is just my first name Kim and my middle initial A.
I use this name on some other boards so I guess I just got lazy to come up with another one.
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The magnificence of the Ambersons began in 1873. Their splendor lasted throughout all the years that saw their midland town spread and darken into a city. In that town, in those days, all the women who wore silk or velvet knew all the other women who wore silk or velvet, and everybody knew everybody else's family horse and carriage.,,
Just love Orson Welles voice narrating these lines
Also that Third Man openings is one of my favorites as well.
*edit:* I also like this opening line from Stalag 17
"I don't know about you, but it always makes me sore when I see those war pictures. All about flying leathernecks and submarine patrols and frogmen and guerrillas in the Philippines. What gets me is that there never was a movie about POWs - about prisoners of war.?
But every time I hear it I think he must not have seen La Grande Illusion.
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Thanks for sharing this It's really sad to me that soon there will be no one from this generation left but I am glad that so many of them shared their experiences and stories with us.
I wish I had known about the special on the history channel too.
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Wow how incredible! It's always wonderful to hear things like this. Who knows what else is out there that might still be discovered.
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> Kinokima...glad you jumped into this discussion. You made some good points but I have to ask: what if someone really does believe that a certain film is the bolded above? Aren't they entitled to that strong opinion, even if it is a little tactless? People do tend do get emotionally charged behind their opinions on matters they feel either strongly for or against.
I can't tell someone NOT to have an opinion but I still feel people should think about how they present that opinion.
I mean saying you hate something is also a strong opinion but I don't think it is tactless. Because in the end if you are tactless you should expect a tactless response.
Summer Under The Stars 2010
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Probably the day I am most looking forward to is the John Mills day.
However instead of days I am more excited about individual films like the Rossellini films on the Ingrid Bergman day and The Student Prince on Norma Shearer day.