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Tom Brady and Ralph Meeker.

> {quote:title=PrinceSaliano wrote:}{quote} > How is everyone missing the irony? I'm slapping my knee as I hee-haw at the irony in this thread. By all means everyone, please do carry on!

I think TCM did a great job with the programming for the first 7 days of post-31 Days of Oscar. They are picking some great titles to get back into the groove of things.

hey mark! I'll be home and look forward to a whole day of John Garfield. I love that guy! I only wish they were playing the *Fallen Sparrow*, but I get to see *The Postman* so that makes up for it. That film never gets old for me!

I noticed "A Letter to Three Wives" during SUTS and someone mentioned Ann Sothern. I think they are right, the only other person I could think of is Jeanne Crain considering how they seem to have the rights to air "State Fair" as well as "Pinky" right now, and they have played "Gentlemen Marry Brunettes" in the past and "Leave Her to Heaven" in last year's essentials, the MGM film "The Fastest Gun Alive" and the film from her later career "Hot Rods to Hell". Being that she was a contract star, I imagine if she is getting a day, it would be a surprise similar to Gene Tierney and maybe show some of these from Fox: Margie - not on DVD and often requested Apartment for Peggy (with a young and handsome William Holden) The Model and the Marriage Broker (often requested for DVD release in internet land) Cheaper By The Dozen In The Meantime, Darling O Henry's Full House and two decent film noirs: Vicki Dangerous Crossing

> {quote:title=babydiapers wrote:}{quote} > yes, foxrayman, I get this is 31 days of Oscar (even though only 28 days in this month.) I do watch TCM. In fact, it is the only channel on television I will watch. > > The Oscars started in 1929. I'll be charitable and extend the acceptable period of movies out to 1974. That means we've got 45 years of Oscar movies to focus on, and we don't need to go wading in the dreck of the post oil crisis world for more movies. > > If I wanted to watch Lord of the GD rings, I'll watch TBS or AMC or some crap. > > I want TMC to focus on the silent era, and the 30's through the early 60's (but mostly the 30's). Leave the CGI shittake for the 1000 other vacuous stations out there. > > This isn't a difficult concept to understand, einsteins. ****! I never knew until I joined this board that people pick a favorite cable channel and insist the channel please them 100%. with a name like babydiapers, do I really have to tell you what you are full of? Go take a walk, prepare your garden for the spring, take a nap, or go get laid! Don't be a slave to the boob tube!

Awww Fred, I think I get it, you're older and mentally stuck in "your" time period where you actually went to the movies to see these classics in their original run, right? I guess I can understand your bias and sometimes nagging on the matter. One thing I will say is that I prefer prostitution in pre-codes the most for some reason. It may be a sleazy profession but they made the sleaze seem so juicy! LOL

> {quote:title=thomasterryjr wrote:}{quote} > Do you watch a film because it was released during a certain time period or do you watch a film because you want to witness great cinema? > So again I ask do you watch a film because it was released in a certain time period or do you watch a film because you want to witness great cinema? > I too am curious about your answer Dobbsy! I think many people have biases on the year a film was released, not paying attention to the actual story etc. I like My Favorite Year. I am not too worried about any anachronisms. The more removed you are from an era, the harder it is to duplicate. One of my favorite series now is HBO's Boardwalk Empire and season one takes place in 1919-1920 and I am sure someone with a trained eye has scoped out anachronisms but hardly enough to make the show unwatchable for that alone.

You've got yourself a deal Dobbsy!

misswonderly, I take baby steps where some technology is concerned. I record TCM to my satellite DVR and then I record to my DVD recorder when I am ready to finally watch the film. I bought a simple recorder, with one tuner so I have to watch the film as it is recording, I can't change the channel or even tough my satellite remote or it will record the menus in the final copy of the film. I know this way is ancient compared to how some people do it now but I only started halfway last year and I now have over 400 titles, most never released on DVD or out of print. The low-tech dunce in me is probably why no matter how many mysteries and cop shows I follow, my favorite will always be Murder She Wrote.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > For which film do you think he was most deserving? Certainly not MY FAVORITE YEAR. Not most deserving, but I'd understand if he did. I laugh out loud watching this film every time. This is one of my favorites films TCM introduced to me in 2010. When I watched it last night I immediately thought of that clip they show on TCM whenever Lawrence of Arabia is on the schedule and he is discussing the coat he brought to the cleaners and how casually he describes what was on the coat!

That's actually the most distracting part of the channel....all the commercials are of their own network! I really hope they broaden the programming and get some main sponsors to limit the amount of commercial breaks -especially in prime time!

I understand what you were trying to accomplish here misswonderly, I think I agree for the most part. It is a main reason why I stopped coming to these message boards and only use this site as a reference and enjoy the movie on the actual channel. I do enjoy lurking and reading some banter, or looking at some lists and discovering new actors or films I never heard of though. On the other hand, I'm not old enough to understand or appreciate middle aged or elderly people nagging on a message board

Such a terrible way to have died when you think of how much of that could have probably been done with CGI today.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > Doubtful that she'll ever be SOTM. Virtually all her starring films were Fox films. TCM can get some of them, but they'd need a substantial number for a SOTM schedule for Grable. finance, I still have my youth, I don't know what agreement TCM and Fox may reach in the next decade or two but I plan to be around!

who gets bludgeoned with it during the holidays? And commercial free at that? Speak for yourself! I love this film!

I love Bette Grable. I can't wait for when she finally gets to be Star of the Month. It would make for great "family television" in prime time for folks to watch these films with their younger children or grand children. I remember watching *Mother Wore Tights* in my youth and I have liked it ever since and watch it at least once a year. Betty Grable was made for Technicolor. I still can't believe *Tin Pan Alley* was shot in black and white with two gorgeous blondes and their red lips in the lead! The only black and white film that made sense with her in it was *I Wake up Screaming*. Fox's 40s splashy Technicolor is not for film noir! I believe she was also in *Pigskin Parade* (with Judy Garland), *A Yank in the R.A.F.* (with Tyrone Power) and *Footlight Serenade* (with Victor Mature and John Payne) that were also in black and white. I guess somewhere in 1941 she was able to make certain demands because that was the last time she did a B&W film. My personal Grable favs: *Mother Wore Tights* *Meet Me After the Show* *How to Marry a Millionaire* *Wabash Avenue* *Coney Island* *I Wake up Screaming* *Down Argentine Way* *Moon Over Miami* *Tin Pan Alley* *How to Be Very, Very Popular* *My Blue Heaven* I really would like to see *When My Baby Smiles at Me* some day.

Our society is so cruel when it comes to something that is so natural and unavoidable - aging! While diet, exercise and lifestyle play a part, much of it is also genetics. Cary Grant had some good genes. Tyrone Power had some good genes (despite the cigarettes that aged him in the 50s). Susan Hayward, while she died so young, had some good genes. Unfortunately, not everyone was the same. By the time Bette Davis hit the 1950s, she looked "older" the same with Joan Crawford. Both very lovely looking women in their earlier years. From paparazzi pics, Garbo also seemed to maintain her looks even though she didn't do the glamour thing anymore. Those who still looked good and were healthy were often still appearing on red carpets and attending events. From what I have seen, Kitty Carlisle, Cyd Charisse, Barbara Stanwyck, Gloria Swanson and several others looked great up until the end. I don't really know who had any surgeries or enhancements but these ladies looked great. Many of these stars wanted to be "time capsuled" via there films or television shows and chose to avoid interviews and public appearances as they aged or become sickly. With the way our society is so judgmental on looks, I don't blame them.

RIP Betty G! I loved her in "On the Town" I remember her in her later years on TV. She was in two quite good episodes of "Murder She Wrote". She was such a cutie pie up to the very end!

(sigh) You've actually revealed your own level of intellect in your title and post. Any movie fan, of classic or modern, knows that one of the struggles of the antagonist and/or protagonist is right vs. wrong and what they think are the two. Good luck with life.

I don't know or care much about the controversy (if there was any) but her voice is super boring. In the TCM documentaries I have watched, she just sounds like a complete zombie. If she taught a film class I'd sleep through her lectures and only be awake for the actual film. Kudos to whoever married that voice!

You are not alone! I listened to the two parts of the podcast and they made me want to see the show even more to get a feel for his facial expressions and mannerisms as well as seeing clips of his work. I have always wondered about his Private Screenings!

Interesting topic. There are now 3 channels that are targeted towards African Americans - Centric, BET and TVOne. All have access to license and run the classic films named in this thread and they choose not to. A movie on MLK, Malcolm X or whoever shouldn't only be relevant the third Monday in January or the 28 or 29 days of February. I personally think TCM does the best they can with the resources they have. The truth is many classic films do not have blacks in the lead, but as servants, and some shed in a terrible stereotypical light. Some black films from the 60s and 70s aren't even that good to be honest. I do appreciate all special series TCM has where they show and discuss Black, Asian or Hispanic cinema. I understand why you would want to see more black films on TCM (uncut and commercial free) although I personally would like to see one or all of the three networks I mentioned step up and shelve some of the tasteless music videos or remove two hours of the same syndicated shows and throw in a slot for a movie.

Interesting topic. I too used to loathe Westerns. I would think everyone was dirty, the sets looked cheap and like obvious back lots (in some), and I couldn't see past the horses and guns to see the real plot. Then one day several years ago I watched *The Cheyenne Social Club* and laughed my arse off. I know it was a western comedy, but I enjoyed it greatly. Right after they showed this other western with Dean Martin *Rough Night in Jericho* and I enjoyed it. Following that, I watched *Rawhide* in my quest to watch and own every Tyrone Power film. It was like a western film noir and I loved it. Soon I caught *My Darling Clementine* and immediately fell in love with the black and white western, having already loved the main characters. Thanks to Encore Westerns and TCM I have watched many Westerns and have really enjoyed them. I love *The Shootist* and I even get a little teary eyed (I don't think the Duke would approve!). I think my appreciation for the work the actor helped me to watch them in westerns and appreciate the genre. I know this is definitely the case with John Wayne and Robert Mitchum. Now I appreciate a western with a decent storyline (fighting over land, money, a woman, against the Native Americans), a pretty leading lady, a funny or boozing sidekick, Monument Valley scenery, and the horses!

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote} > Tyrone Power ! > Tyrone Power ! > Wouldn't mind finding him > in my shower ! > > ...or even finding him as Star of the Month. I approve and second this chant! Tyrone Power deserves more recognition on TCM. Yes, I know he was a Fox contract star and they have their own channel, but he deserves to be SOTM, get a SUTS day, a TCM retrospective as well as a Word of Mouth piece. And I would love to finally see "The Mississippi Gambler".