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Tyrone Power Dana Andrews William Bendix Edmond O'Brien Victor Mature Janet Leigh Alice Faye Richard Widmark Robert Mitchum John Garfield that's all I can think of for now, TCM blew me away last year with Gene Tierney.

Mark, you are the one that introduced me to Warren William's precodes and I have been hooked ever since! I would definitely vote for him for SOTM, and settle with him getting a SUTS day this year as a start!

Hands down the best night in January's programming is tonight. If Darryl F. Zanuck didn't typecast so many of his contract stars in genres he felt they'd be best in, I can only imagine the number of great noirs Payne would have done at Fox. He may have taken some roles from the likes of Richard Conte and Mark Stevens. Tyrone Power had to fight for his Nightmare Alley role! Either way, I look forward to tonight. John Payne had a great singing voice, was a great actor from Technicolor musical cheesiness (which I love) to film noir, and he was great to look at. Good job programmers.

Even though TCM plays it enough, I like him in *The Blue Dahlia*. Like someone else said, I do think his performance in *The Dark Corner* was essential William Bendix. I also enjoyed him in his Fox films like *Greenwich Village*, *A Bell for Adano*, *Guadalcanal Diary*, and *Sentimental Journey*. He was also in an enjoyable noir with George Raft *Race Street* ? And I never seen it, but I would like to see *Calcutta*, has TCM ever shown it?

Thank you for posting that Fred C, I think clore has stated a few times (and I have agreed) that there should be a better quality control system where these films are checked before their aired. If my guide says Letterbox and TCM shows a pan and scan because that was the copy they got, that's not acceptable. When a film has glitches or skips in the transfer, it should never make the air. And who wants to see a distorted film? It looks awful. These things have to be checked thoroughly before the film is aired.

> {quote:title=Kinokima wrote:}{quote} > It sucks when AMC gets any movie because there is no point of watching it with all those darn commercials. Agreed. They have chopped the crap out of *Airplane!* yet play it every other day. So glad TCM aired *McClintock!* recently because I like to watch it every now and then and there are way too many commercials on John Wayne Saturdays.

I would be geeked if George Raft was SOTM. Plenty of crime and noir and if TCM got access to early films, I want to see that film "Side Street" in it's entirety. The man could dance! Anyway, his acting style was made for crime/noir similarly to Dana Andrews (when Dana Andrews is SOTM I'll probably be old and gray )

> {quote:title=rayallen wrote:}{quote} > Perhaps Christina Ricci. I was coming to post this. Based on looks, she would be ideal. I don't know about her acting range. Bette had range and throughout her career.

Bette Davis was in MR SKEFFINGTON with Claude Rains

I said something similar in another thread, but take a still from CASABLANCA and one from THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES and I guarantee you that most people over 40 will be able to identify Casablanca the most. I'm surprised by how many people over 40 do not know about classic films. It really is a niche market and while we may argue about what has more significance, or was groundbreaking, brought in more revenue etc, CASABLANCA has a better chance of being re-released on future home video formats with extras before THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES. I agree Kinokima, it does still speak to people today. It is the one film that is shown in prime time a few times a year on TCM. I can't imagine it ever leaving TCM's broadcast rotation for even a year. Maybe it's all of the references made to scenes or dialogue in current pop culture, who knows, but CASABLANCA is a classic film that is probably in the DVD libraries of many non classic film fans.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > It was amusing watching Totter in LADY IN THE LAKE, since most of her dialogue was directed, seemingly, right at the camera, because Montgomery remained unseen in that one-time gimmick. Yes, it was! Her facial expressions were hilarious. I would love to see what she looks like today. Too bad TCM didn't do a Private Screenings with her...I doubt she'd be interested now!

James, I too prefer Marjorie Main in small doses.....like tear drop doses and I admit I was interested in this film because of it being rare both in DVD release and TV airing. Also, it's been the answer in quite a few "Info Please" threads. So I watched it to see what the hype was about. I enjoyed Fred MacM, Helen Walker and Jean Heather. I think those three made the movie - or at least they were behind my chuckles. I rather Betty over Marjorie. I don't think I have ever seen Marjorie in a film where she wasn't playing a Ma Kettle type. Maybe it's a good thing that she stayed typecast and outside of the types of films I would like. I don't think I would have enjoyed Ma Kettle in a film noir or gangster flick LOL

I think I prefer the longer promos (where someone narrates a montage of an actor's work) and wish more were made about previous actors I mentioned in the thread. I'm sure there are current actors, albeit a little older, who may be familiar with some actors' work and would oblige in doing one of these pieces. How cool would it be for Frank Vincent to narrate a piece on William Bendix???

Scottman, even though the acting gets a little cheesy around the time the parent's tragic ending (the parents, their daughter and future son in law's acting is a little over the top.....maybe the scenery was flavored? lol) I always get teary eyed in the last scene when the girl and then her fiance show up with words for them (you almost expect one of them to drop an expletive, eh?) and then EGR's final speech before he breaks the glass (good stuff). I don't know what it is, but that scene gets me emotional. I have to mention that EGR's personal assistant/secretary steals quite a few scenes!! Who is she?

> {quote:title=MyFavoriteFilms wrote:}{quote} > He wanted a more expanded role, so he went left to do the Father Dowling Mysteries (which only lasted two seasons). He couldn't go back to Murder, She Wrote because they killed his character off. He sort of burned a bridge there. They didn't kill him off per say, in the show they made it that he retired (when he went off to star in his own show) and they had replaced him with a retired NY cop turned sheriff played by Ron Masak. Ron Masak was pretty decent in the role, although I am sure if they really wanted to bring Bosley back as Sheriff Tupper, they probably would have found some way to make a good episode out of it (and probably make Masak a killer too!)

How sad indeed! I was just watching him in his first film role over the weekend playing Columbo in LOVE WITH A PROPER STRANGER. I absolutely loved him as the semi-bumbling sheriff of crime infested Cabot Cove, ME on "Murder, She Wrote"

> {quote:title=chandler5710 wrote:}{quote} > I've actually been working on Tyrone Power getting a stamp, as his centenary is in 4 years, and you have to start way ahead of time. This is great to hear!!

Hands down Tyrone Power and Basil Rathbone sword fight in THE MARK OF ZORRO

Has anyone ever read this?? An interview with Audrey Totter. It is from 10 years ago so I guess she was around 80 or 81. Either way the interview is great, and she is quite hilarious. http://www.thecolumnists.com/bawden/bawden2.html

Jeanne Crain was in STATE FAIR with Vivian Blaine

> {quote:title=dickson wrote:}{quote} > I really like Audrey Totter in just about everything she had done. A few years ago, TCM did a bunch on film noir movies and a couple of short specials, they interviewed Audrey Totter, Marie Windsor, Jane Greer and Colleen Gray. They talked about their days doing film noir movies. All sat around a table and talked. I have them on disk and just recently watched them again GREAT stuff. I just looked this up and I think the special may have been on AMC, not TCM.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > We never discussed her on the noir thread, did we? We've discussed the others. I don't believe we have (and we probably should). Thanks to KANSAS CITY CONFIDENTIAL, I got a "hallelujah" moment about Coleen's abilities as an actress, and I absolutely loved her in NIGHTMARE ALLEY. Coleen has been in some pretty solid film noir only she never played a femme fatale role so she is overlooked, I believe she was one of the ladies interviewed for Eddie Muller's book on the noir dames several years back.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > What noirs was Colleen Gray in, other than NIGHTMARE ALLEY? I've never thought of HER as a noir mainstay. (in contrast to the other 3) KISS OF DEATH, KANSAS CITY CONFIDENTIAL, THE KILLING, and THE SLEEPING CITY to name a few.

Merle Oberon was in DESIREE with Michael Rennie

I look forward to seeing LADY WITH A PAST and WHAT PRICE HOLLYWOOD. These pre codes are really starting to grow on me! Before, I really only sought out mysteries and gangster flicks that were pre code, but now, even a normal drama is good stuff. I really enjoy the dialogue - with no CGI special effects (thankfully), all you need is a solid script and good acting to make a movie great. Over the weekend I watched FIVE STAR FINAL for what was probably the 5th time and man oh man, it just keeps getting better. In some ways, the Hays Code really affected the films of the late 30s, 40s and 50s.